As a huge fan of LOVE I couldn't agree more. The two groups were completely different styles of music. This variation was like grunge rock. Forever Changes was a very mellow mostly a Guitar and horn driven album. Arthur did not play any Guitar on the Forever Changes album. Which I think is a Masterpiece. Johnny Echols and Bryan Maclean along with bassist Ken Forrsi gave that album a unique vibe for the music part. Arthurs lyrics were outstanding
George Suranovich is the best drummer ever! I saw this same incarnation of Love in Vancouver on Valentine's Day 1970! Sadly, they got booed off the stage as everybody wanted to hear Quick Silver Messenger Service, whom Love fronted for. Arthur Lee was pissed off & me too! He did sing Singing Cowboy as we requested! I was blessed to see him anyway! I'll always treasure that!
I’m so sorry to hear that the crowd was clueless and cruel. Taking nothing away from Quicksliver, Love, in both of its incarnations, was certainly as good. Such strong songs and playing here. Both sweet and impassioned.
🔒🎶🇬🇧 I'm almost 60 & I 1st Heard Love's Forever changes during the 80s when a a Neighbour then in Her 40s Played It to Us & since I've become a huge Fan of Arthur & Love 💥🎸💓
I don't care what you think... I saw the band with Frank Zappa in 1970 in San Antonio. I hitch-hiked 300 miles from S. Texas at the Tip to see Zappa and Arthur and Band and my FAVORITE Album was LOVE OUT THERE
@@tommoore4717 I have very little of what I owned in life. I don't even think the sold t-shirts or least I never saw anyway BUT... I have a Zappa T-Shirt that was silk screened and has an ORIGINAL composition that ZAPPA wrote on the shirt 1978. ONLY 11 of the Shirts printed before the Silk Screen Broke... I have that Old T-Shirt (my wife wore it some, but too small for me) to this day...
It's incredible that this incarnation of the band didn't want to play "Forever Changes" and largely dismissed it. As did pretty much everyone else. Which is usually the case with masterpieces. They are so original it's hard to measure them against anything else. At the time, Arthur knew he had created something special, but upon its reception thought it was a failure. So it was quite a triumph that many years later he got to play it in its entirely in front of tens of thousands of old and new fans and got to see his masterpiece appreciated for what it was.
Yes , Arthur Lee and Love created genius music . Some of it way before it's time . I can't imagine loving any band , or more importantly , MAN , as much . Just brilliant ! Xxx
When he was 15 or 16, he would walk to Capitol's offices in Hollywood and knock on random doors to try and get someone to listen to his crude tapes. What kind of kid does that?
@@zyrrhos Fair enough dude. That last one was written after a stressful evening and I was wired so misunderstood your comment. Taken it down as it was stupid. Apologies.
I’ve been an Arthur Lee & Love fan from the beginning. Now as the years have gone by, a lot of what was so enjoyable back then now has become just noise.
i saw arthur his last few gigs in san francisco in the 2000's... very talented and entertaining. last gig he didnt look so good, few months later, he was dead. the first three albums were super special!
I saw Love perform at The Fillmore East exactly one month prior to this show. Love was on the same bill as The Allman Brothers and the Grateful Dead. The show let out at 5:45 AM !!
@@grifftrain Well In my opinion , actually in the UK Parliament also declared it too . I first heard it on NY radio back in 67 , still have my original vinyl issue . It just resonated with me from jump .
@@rossdemarco1206 I’m not arguing with you at all. I love the album too. I didn’t discover it until the 90s, probably. I read an article about it, and went and got it. To be honest, I didn’t love it immediately. It took a few listens for me, but then I was hooked, and now it’s one of my most listened to albums of all time.
@@grifftrain Oh , sorry wasn’t arguing at all . Actually I’ve had other people tell me they had the same reaction as yourself , it took a few listens .
@ausgang Got to see the Forever Changes set at the Knitting factory in Hollywood without the strings. Would've loved to see the set with strings too, but this was still special, pure garage!
Nice song that I've never heard before yesterday...kinda goes off the rails for the solo, but this kept coming back to me during the day. I think we'll be adding it to my band's repetoire, in an abbreviated format.
@mortonred I think this has been released on the "Love-The Blue Thumb Recordings" CD. It's a three disc set with a live disc. May or may not be the exact same performance, but is good, nevertheless.
At about 3:56 Arthur wipes his brow and wanders toward his amp looking pretty bombed out. Maybe the drugs started to really take effect At 4:45 they all have their backs to the audience freaking out to the sounds they are creating.
I played in high school and college bands and always had a hard time playing when I was stoned. Great at first, but then you are tripping balls at the electricity arcing all around you and through you.
It saddens me that he was relatively unloved and in a kind of wilderness during the 70’s and 80’s, even this band didn’t rate his earlier stuff, apparently.
This incarnation of the band didn't want to play "Forever Changes" and largely dismissed it. As did pretty much everyone else. Which is usually the case with masterpieces. They are so original it's hard to measure them against anything else. At the time, Arthur knew he had created something special but upon its reception thought it was a failure. So it was quite a triumph that many years later he got to play it in its entirely in front of tens of thousands of old and new fans and got to see his masterpiece appreciated for what it was.
I wonder if this song",Love to China" is what inspired Nixons detante with China? Just kidding,but,hey he might have been a secret fan. My dad,a WW2 Veteran,dug the Doors
The most important stand out feature was original songwriting but in all fairness by the time this song came out on the "Out Here" album, the time of truly uniquely creative work was on the wane. The next LP, "Reel to Real" (or was it the reverse?) the band, whiuch hadn't been the original lineup for years) was still good but doing covers and a wide mix of stuff with little of the unique blends that made the first 3 LPs monstrous milestones in Rock/Pop Music. As much as I love some songs that came after, and appreciate the breakthrough blending of the first 2 (true proto punk mixed with baroque, spanish, ans numerous other odd influences) "Forever Changes" is probably the pinnacle. It is really not to be missed. It's actually important as well as gorgeous..
Forever Changes feels like something that was a gift from the Gods channeled through Arthur. It transcends music and time and is a masterwork of art. You can get a glimpse of that by watching Arthur Lee and Love perform it in its entirety in the early 2000s at the Glastonbury Festival in front of tens of thousands of old and new fans. It sounds as fresh today as the day it was recorded. It's no wonder it is listed as the best album of 1967 by many top music critics (over Sgt. Pepper and The Doors debut album among many other great releases that year).
Forever Changes and Four Sale were two incredible albums but can't be compared to each other. Totally different bands.
As a huge fan of LOVE I couldn't agree more. The two groups were completely different styles of music. This variation was like grunge rock. Forever Changes was a very mellow mostly a Guitar and horn driven album. Arthur did not play any Guitar on the Forever Changes album. Which I think is a Masterpiece. Johnny Echols and Bryan Maclean along with bassist Ken Forrsi gave that album a unique vibe for the music part. Arthurs lyrics were outstanding
I agree with you both. This Love was made for the music of Four Sail.
George Suranovich is the best drummer ever! I saw this same incarnation of Love in Vancouver on Valentine's Day 1970! Sadly, they got booed off the stage as everybody wanted to hear Quick Silver Messenger Service, whom Love fronted for. Arthur Lee was pissed off & me too! He did sing Singing Cowboy as we requested! I was blessed to see him anyway! I'll always treasure that!
Rob - Did you see them at that festival in Squamish in early 71?
Couldn;'t agree more re George Suranovich. There was a drum solo from him on UA-cam a couple of years ago but can't find it now.
I’m so sorry to hear that the crowd was clueless and cruel.
Taking nothing away from Quicksliver, Love, in both of its incarnations, was certainly as good. Such strong songs and playing here. Both sweet and impassioned.
Love was the best band ever. No matter the line up, it was always superb. God Bless Arthur Lee!!
Word.
Oh gawd yes Ever. Everrr. Too special for the usual bubblegum pop radio fks
🔒🎶🇬🇧 I'm almost 60 & I 1st Heard Love's Forever changes during the 80s when a a Neighbour then in Her 40s Played It to Us & since I've become a huge Fan of Arthur & Love 💥🎸💓
I don't care what you think... I saw the band with Frank Zappa in 1970 in San Antonio.
I hitch-hiked 300 miles from S. Texas at the Tip to see Zappa and Arthur and Band and my FAVORITE Album was LOVE OUT THERE
i don't belive it!
He used to sit on the edge of the drum riser..(1966)
great sound here..great solo & bassman..Aloha
Awesome!! Aloha
Got a ticket stub or a tshirt?
@@tommoore4717 I have very little of what I owned in life. I don't even think the sold t-shirts or least I never saw anyway
BUT... I have a Zappa T-Shirt that was silk screened and has an ORIGINAL composition that ZAPPA wrote on the shirt 1978. ONLY 11 of the Shirts printed before the Silk Screen Broke... I have that Old T-Shirt (my wife wore it some, but too small for me) to this day...
You gotta love the era when rock bands jammed the crap out of their tunes.The rhythm section is just a cookin' here.The drummer is a monster.
It's incredible that this incarnation of the band didn't want to play "Forever Changes" and largely dismissed it. As did pretty much everyone else. Which is usually the case with masterpieces. They are so original it's hard to measure them against anything else. At the time, Arthur knew he had created something special, but upon its reception thought it was a failure. So it was quite a triumph that many years later he got to play it in its entirely in front of tens of thousands of old and new fans and got to see his masterpiece appreciated for what it was.
Yes , Arthur Lee and Love created genius music . Some of it way before it's time . I can't imagine loving any band , or more importantly , MAN , as much . Just brilliant ! Xxx
I was there in NYC in 2003?🇺🇸✌️
nothing can really compare to Arthur Lee and Love!!!!!!.the Out Here and Four Sail albums were right up there too!!!!!!!!💘💘💘💘💘
Love were a pale shadow of themselves after Bryan MacLean left.
Something about young Arthur Lee ..very chill and focused and ahead of his time...
When he was 15 or 16, he would walk to Capitol's offices in Hollywood and knock on random doors to try and get someone to listen to his crude tapes. What kind of kid does that?
@@ajmac7432 I actually meant that as a compliment to him, as in not many kids would do that. Not sure how that's a "know it all."
@@zyrrhos Fair enough dude. That last one was written after a stressful evening and I was wired so misunderstood your comment. Taken it down as it was stupid. Apologies.
I’ve been an Arthur Lee & Love fan from the beginning. Now as the years have gone by, a lot of what was so enjoyable back then now has become just noise.
One of the best driving songs. Like L.A. Woman perfect for the L.A. freeways.
These sessions were recorded by Denmark's Radio and aired at the same time. I still remember that special evening.
He sings a lot of flat notes and still sounds awesome. I love "love to China."
Gary Rowles rock!
What a great sound....far out....
lead guitar, a young Gary Rowles
i saw arthur his last few gigs in san francisco in the 2000's... very talented and entertaining. last gig he didnt look so good, few months later, he was dead. the first three albums were super special!
I saw Love perform at The Fillmore East exactly one month prior to this show. Love was on the same bill as The Allman Brothers and the Grateful Dead. The show let out at 5:45 AM !!
I saw all 3 late shows feb 11, 13, 14 1970 spectacular, right Tom
I was there too. Still have the Playbill.
@@brucecoopersmith4318you dudes are the OG hippie acid taking mother fuckin pioneers of the golden road to devotion 🇺🇸✌️
Arthur playin damn good rhythm gitar
Forever Changes is one of the best albums ever released
The Best
@@rossdemarco1206 the best of all time?
@@grifftrain Well In my opinion , actually in the UK Parliament also declared it too . I first heard it on NY radio back in 67 , still have my original vinyl issue . It just resonated with me from jump .
@@rossdemarco1206 I’m not arguing with you at all. I love the album too. I didn’t discover it until the 90s, probably. I read an article about it, and went and got it. To be honest, I didn’t love it immediately. It took a few listens for me, but then I was hooked, and now it’s one of my most listened to albums of all time.
@@grifftrain Oh , sorry wasn’t arguing at all . Actually I’ve had other people tell me they had the same reaction as yourself , it took a few listens .
Saw this at the Eastown in Detroit. 1970 %>} What a year!
Wickedly good!!
these jams go on and on....
What a great sound!
Love LOVE!
@ausgang Got to see the Forever Changes set at the Knitting factory in Hollywood without the strings. Would've loved to see the set with strings too, but this was still special, pure garage!
I saw “Forever Changes” at the same venue. Fortunately, for us, there was four or five strings, plus a trumpet.
dont turn on your headlights classic love- great music
Most awesome live shit here man! Once again, another great live video take of these guys!
Even when he sings flat he sounds awesome.
He sings flat at times for musical effect. Check out Little Red Book. He pushes into 7th chord territory.
Nice song that I've never heard before yesterday...kinda goes off the rails for the solo, but this kept coming back to me during the day. I think we'll be adding it to my band's repetoire, in an abbreviated format.
THE GREATEST!
The band that the Doors wanted to be...
💜this!!!! 🎸⚡️
Great Sound..Amazing.. Aloha
Is this even out as a full show. I only see August and this one but differing quality and this is the best one.
Wow. 👍👍👍👍
the grate! ωραία!
he is smashed at the beginning! What a troubador though- brilliant artist
@mortonred I think this has been released on the "Love-The Blue Thumb Recordings" CD. It's a three disc set with a live disc. May or may not be the exact same performance, but is good, nevertheless.
Four sail is there best album
Negative
Were they not at Woodstock? Shame if they weren't
Neither Monterey nor Woodstock.
@@gratefuldead3750 that's really too bad, they're amazing
@@matthewehritz3544
Love story, and why they didn't play there
ua-cam.com/video/T0BT84-01ds/v-deo.html
@@gratefuldead3750 that's awesome thank you. Very cool of you
At about 3:56 Arthur wipes his brow and wanders toward his amp looking pretty bombed out. Maybe the drugs started to really take effect At 4:45 they all have their backs to the audience freaking out to the sounds they are creating.
I played in high school and college bands and always had a hard time playing when I was stoned. Great at first, but then you are tripping balls at the electricity arcing all around you and through you.
No guitar extension cords back then?
His guitar cable is stressing me out
Far Out
Is this drummer using a piccolo snare beetle anyone else was using them?? It sounds tite
Is the whole concert available anywhere?
it was on dime-a-dozen, not the whole show but the Danish TV show this is from about 45mins of live music and Arthur interview
Where i can get the whole concert?
I can't hear u mr.lee please crank up the electro acoustic. great song but wrong choice of axe wish u were still here. ) :
Love demands your attention lol
Koncerten blev til dels ødelagt af kameramænd der kravlede rundt på scenen og filmede Arthur. Han kommunikerede mere til dem end til publikum.
yet he refused to play Monterey Pop
It saddens me that he was relatively unloved and in a kind of wilderness during the 70’s and 80’s, even this band didn’t rate his earlier stuff, apparently.
This incarnation of the band didn't want to play "Forever Changes" and largely dismissed it. As did pretty much everyone else. Which is usually the case with masterpieces. They are so original it's hard to measure them against anything else. At the time, Arthur knew he had created something special but upon its reception thought it was a failure. So it was quite a triumph that many years later he got to play it in its entirely in front of tens of thousands of old and new fans and got to see his masterpiece appreciated for what it was.
This band was awful compared to the original band with Bryan MacLean. Johnny Echols and Ken Forssi.
It's Arthur Lee but it's not Love.
This is love
jay donnelan was much better...this is a darn shame....but amazing rhythym section
love arthur's guitar chord/leash!
c t
Saw them at a college in East London bout then but Arthur looked more junkified.
Walthastow
@@jamesfitzgerald6636 yes Walthamstow.
I think I saw Country Joe & The fish there as well.
A bit shite to be honest
Stfu man. You don’t know anything
Judging by the content of your channel, I understand why you don't get this.
Great songwriter-singer-harpist(harmonica) but couldn't play guitar for shit.
train wreck????
I wonder if this song",Love to China" is what inspired Nixons detante with China? Just kidding,but,hey he might have been a secret fan. My dad,a WW2 Veteran,dug the Doors
Sounds cool & everything but what made this stand out from the mountain of other bands that sounded like this ?
The most important stand out feature was original songwriting but in all fairness by the time this song came out on the "Out Here" album, the time of truly uniquely creative work was on the wane. The next LP, "Reel to Real" (or was it the reverse?) the band, whiuch hadn't been the original lineup for years) was still good but doing covers and a wide mix of stuff with little of the unique blends that made the first 3 LPs monstrous milestones in Rock/Pop Music. As much as I love some songs that came after, and appreciate the breakthrough blending of the first 2 (true proto punk mixed with baroque, spanish, ans numerous other odd influences) "Forever Changes" is probably the pinnacle. It is really not to be missed. It's actually important as well as gorgeous..
Forever Changes feels like something that was a gift from the Gods channeled through Arthur. It transcends music and time and is a masterwork of art. You can get a glimpse of that by watching Arthur Lee and Love perform it in its entirety in the early 2000s at the Glastonbury Festival in front of tens of thousands of old and new fans. It sounds as fresh today as the day it was recorded. It's no wonder it is listed as the best album of 1967 by many top music critics (over Sgt. Pepper and The Doors debut album among many other great releases that year).
It's Arthur Lee but it's not Love.
@Wesley Winston love is artur lee