i think the grandma is in on it. the math isnt mathing. before dropping her off she said “ your friends told me not to tell you” but when you get confronted its “ oh rose told me from the other side” .. So you can listen to a stranger otp ( which makes me think its a friend thats in on it ) but when Ash shows up you can ask him 2 times “ who are you in my house” … but you dont ask the lady on the phone who is this? So a lady prompted you to do xyz but ur still sane enough to ask who is this in my house? Granted like you guys said maybe mouses mom didnt know she was that bad mentally but it still seem like she was going along w it.
That scene with Imogen and Dr Sullivan I felt was heartful with Imogen telling her that her and her mom use to do puzzles it kinda felt like they both needed each other in that moment, and maybe Dr Sullivan son died or something.
1) The way Bloody Rose is such a sore loser is crazy. Like, she gets bested by two 16-year-old girls and still has the audacity to come for them🤣. And she KNEW she needed to get Faran weak bc it would've been one person on the ground, and it was not gonna be Faran. 2) I believe this season is set in 2023 bc Mouse was born in 2007 and the other girls were born in 06. 3) I loved Imogen's house scene; I was almost expecting someone to say, "Is Tamara home?". 4) Noa is my girly for real, but she is about to get on my nerves. Like I'm really trying not to hop in the screen and give her a stern talking to. I'm hoping she's next in the trials 5) The way that Kelly and Karen never even had a chance. Like, their father is a racist, sexist rapist bully and the momma is religiously abusive and neglectful. If Kelly does anything suspicious this season, I won't even blame her. She needs therapy, ASAP 6) I have to assume that Dr. Sullivan is the only available therapist in town bc she is willing to do referrals when she feels that there is a conflict, i.e. when she recommended that Mike see a different therapist because she was already treating Aria and she doesn't think siblings should see the same therapist.
1. Bloody Rose is the pettiest of petty lol 2. oooo interesting 3. hahahahahaha The Strangers! 4. Noa is on our shit list fosho 5. Kelly has the hardest life in my opinion. I feel terrible for her and truly hope she gets the help she needs when she's able to leave home. 6. We just have to roll with it for the sake of progressing the series lol
Is it confirmed that Dr. Sullivans kid was the same age at the original liars? I assumed he was a young kid. There’s a 5 year time jump in the original and another 5 years between this show and the original. So if he was 7, he’d be 17 now.
I'm finally glad things are beginning to pick up this episode. I was tired of all the petty teen drama up until then. I don't want to know who's dating who, I just want to see people getting stabbed! I also think it's stupid the girls don't just go to the cops. Sure Dr. Sullivan was pushed down the stairs in retaliation but there's a murderer on the loose, it's best to stop the problem before it gets worse. The bad guy is a middle aged homeless woman with a limp, if they put everyone on high alert they can evade her! I wished they played up the cyber stalker aspect and have Bloody Rose uncover some damning info on them and blackmail them into her games and not going to the cops. That's the motivation of the liars in the original series. I knew going in that the challenge for Farren was trap. The note said that if she succeeded that no harm shall befall anyone she loves, but it didn't include her. I actually thought Bloody Rose would stab her when she was still holding the beam. At least grab a kitchen knife instead of a box cutter. Mouse shouldn't have split up to pass those fliers, no splitting up!
I just commented on the last pll video with a theory about Christian being a good guy, but I have another kind of part 2 to that ( hopefully this season doesn’t make me eat my words 😂). But what if Christian gave up the spot at the festival for Tabi or something.
this season reminds me of scream 4,5,6 all in one theory wise . The killerS more than one being someone close, someone met online ( spooky spaghetti ) and someone who ‘naturally’ comes in their lives. The new ppl came in so fluidly and ALL of them asked for their numbers coincidentally gets leaked after.. Also who else knew Mouse grandma had memories problem and call manipulate her? Sullivan or a liar or Ash.
OMG that is exactly what I said about the song choice for Noa sooo gay, I loved it. Jordan that boy is not ready for polyamory. I don't believe it is her father's house either.
I gotta be completely honest I don’t think Sullivan is bloody rose. I think ash is bloody rose. I feel before Ash met mouse and was in the process of transitioning I feel his female name was Rosa and he could’ve been Angela’s daughter and Wes is Archie
6:41 Dr. Sullivan is a good doctor & person. She’s not gonna hurt the girls. She helped the OG Liars & she’s gonna help them. She was Mona’s therapist while Mona was🅰️& when she released that she called Emily because she was going to tell the girls. Mona threatened her son & made her disappear. She came back & continued to help the girls while Mona was in Radley. So no she’s not Bloody Rose my best guess is that it’s Chip’s mom or even Ms. Beasley. So what if she was Rose’s therapist that’s her job that doesn’t automatically make her a villain.
As someone who has scoliosis watching farans task is extremely hard. She just got done with PT for her scoliosis and it’s bad enough she’s doing pull-ups in the gym. she’s lifting excessive weight for 2 hours. This can have a drastic effect and worsen her condition. Once the adrenaline wears off I wonder how she will respond to the pain.
@@SLTAngst between mouse or noa. So much more Mouse really yeah she got attacked but that would be genius to do so no one thinks it you. On top of the spooky spaghetti thing. no evidence on Noa really but it’s something abt the Summer School season poster - the one in yall thumbnail. Everybody else is shocked except Mouse and Noa. Also Noa bikini shows me duality. Right out the gate of this season we’re seeing a different side of Noa - Steal the rolex, shady comments towards Shawn mother, lying etc.
@@SLTAngst also the scenes where all the liars find their seperate roses said alot. That person knew their schedule. It had to be someone who knows their day to day life maybe with the help of other ppl in on it. So a liar saying “shes going to be at work xyz plant it here” to a helper. Cus at that point all of the new ppl just came into the picture.
1) also i think that she wasnt lying about her son, she mentions that she has "suffered extreme loss" so i think it was implying that he died 2) also im missing the presence of the moms this season! im glad they explained their absence but i feel like sidney should be appearing more?
Ooo that's true and very possible. At this point, anything can be true lol We also miss the mom's. They were great in season 1 and I get that it's not longer about them, but also..it is lol
i think the grandma is in on it. the math isnt mathing. before dropping her off she said “ your friends told me not to tell you” but when you get confronted its “ oh rose told me from the other side” .. So you can listen to a stranger otp ( which makes me think its a friend thats in on it ) but when Ash shows up you can ask him 2 times “ who are you in my house” … but you dont ask the lady on the phone who is this? So a lady prompted you to do xyz but ur still sane enough to ask who is this in my house? Granted like you guys said maybe mouses mom didnt know she was that bad mentally but it still seem like she was going along w it.
…she very clearly has developing Alzheimer’s….
36:14 Obviously Bloody Rose doesn’t play fair. She wants the girls weak
1000000%
This episode was SO GOOD OMG
SO GOOD
That scene with Imogen and Dr Sullivan I felt was heartful with Imogen telling her that her and her mom use to do puzzles it kinda felt like they both needed each other in that moment, and maybe Dr Sullivan son died or something.
Maybe...so many options!
1) The way Bloody Rose is such a sore loser is crazy. Like, she gets bested by two 16-year-old girls and still has the audacity to come for them🤣. And she KNEW she needed to get Faran weak bc it would've been one person on the ground, and it was not gonna be Faran.
2) I believe this season is set in 2023 bc Mouse was born in 2007 and the other girls were born in 06.
3) I loved Imogen's house scene; I was almost expecting someone to say, "Is Tamara home?".
4) Noa is my girly for real, but she is about to get on my nerves. Like I'm really trying not to hop in the screen and give her a stern talking to. I'm hoping she's next in the trials
5) The way that Kelly and Karen never even had a chance. Like, their father is a racist, sexist rapist bully and the momma is religiously abusive and neglectful. If Kelly does anything suspicious this season, I won't even blame her. She needs therapy, ASAP
6) I have to assume that Dr. Sullivan is the only available therapist in town bc she is willing to do referrals when she feels that there is a conflict, i.e. when she recommended that Mike see a different therapist because she was already treating Aria and she doesn't think siblings should see the same therapist.
1. Bloody Rose is the pettiest of petty lol
2. oooo interesting
3. hahahahahaha The Strangers!
4. Noa is on our shit list fosho
5. Kelly has the hardest life in my opinion. I feel terrible for her and truly hope she gets the help she needs when she's able to leave home.
6. We just have to roll with it for the sake of progressing the series lol
Is it confirmed that Dr. Sullivans kid was the same age at the original liars? I assumed he was a young kid. There’s a 5 year time jump in the original and another 5 years between this show and the original. So if he was 7, he’d be 17 now.
No idea. If he was a kid in the original series than Sarah's theory about Johnny absolutely holds up!
@@SLTAngst I definitely think Johnny is Dr. Sullivan’s son.
I'm finally glad things are beginning to pick up this episode. I was tired of all the petty teen drama up until then. I don't want to know who's dating who, I just want to see people getting stabbed! I also think it's stupid the girls don't just go to the cops. Sure Dr. Sullivan was pushed down the stairs in retaliation but there's a murderer on the loose, it's best to stop the problem before it gets worse. The bad guy is a middle aged homeless woman with a limp, if they put everyone on high alert they can evade her! I wished they played up the cyber stalker aspect and have Bloody Rose uncover some damning info on them and blackmail them into her games and not going to the cops. That's the motivation of the liars in the original series. I knew going in that the challenge for Farren was trap. The note said that if she succeeded that no harm shall befall anyone she loves, but it didn't include her. I actually thought Bloody Rose would stab her when she was still holding the beam. At least grab a kitchen knife instead of a box cutter. Mouse shouldn't have split up to pass those fliers, no splitting up!
You're tired of the petty teen drama in a teen drama lol
I just commented on the last pll video with a theory about Christian being a good guy, but I have another kind of part 2 to that ( hopefully this season doesn’t make me eat my words 😂). But what if Christian gave up the spot at the festival for Tabi or something.
We would love this to be true
this season reminds me of scream 4,5,6 all in one theory wise . The killerS more than one being someone close, someone met online ( spooky spaghetti ) and someone who ‘naturally’ comes in their lives. The new ppl came in so fluidly and ALL of them asked for their numbers coincidentally gets leaked after.. Also who else knew Mouse grandma had memories problem and call manipulate her? Sullivan or a liar or Ash.
If it's Ash we will riot! LOL
OMG that is exactly what I said about the song choice for Noa sooo gay, I loved it.
Jordan that boy is not ready for polyamory.
I don't believe it is her father's house either.
you, us, same page
I gotta be completely honest I don’t think Sullivan is bloody rose. I think ash is bloody rose. I feel before Ash met mouse and was in the process of transitioning I feel his female name was Rosa and he could’ve been Angela’s daughter and Wes is Archie
6:41 Dr. Sullivan is a good doctor & person. She’s not gonna hurt the girls. She helped the OG Liars & she’s gonna help them. She was Mona’s therapist while Mona was🅰️& when she released that she called Emily because she was going to tell the girls. Mona threatened her son & made her disappear. She came back & continued to help the girls while Mona was in Radley. So no she’s not Bloody Rose my best guess is that it’s Chip’s mom or even Ms. Beasley. So what if she was Rose’s therapist that’s her job that doesn’t automatically make her a villain.
I'm now seeing people saying they think Karen is back....
@@SLTAngst ooof
@@JayeKisses Right? It's something to do with the necklace. Have you seen the photos?
@@SLTAngst not yet. I haven’t really seen that theory yet
just because she was good in the og, doesn’t mean she still is.
As someone who has scoliosis watching farans task is extremely hard. She just got done with PT for her scoliosis and it’s bad enough she’s doing pull-ups in the gym. she’s lifting excessive weight for 2 hours. This can have a drastic effect and worsen her condition. Once the adrenaline wears off I wonder how she will respond to the pain.
Good point. We’re curious about that too
I love this show each character is getting a chase scene and getting to shine !!! Episode 3 was mouses episode and episode 4 is Farans ❤
Right?! I love it too!
7:32 well technically we never saw Dr. Sullivan’s son in the OG so we don’t know what his age is it could very well be Johnnny
ohhhhhh...I hope it's not though cause then we'd have a whole Ezra thing going on again
@@SLTAngst or could he be the same age as the girls. Like I said we never saw him he could’ve been a baby. We never had a name,age,or picture
@@JayeKisses Right?! oh man...is it JOHNNY?!
@@SLTAngst maybe idk🤷🏾♀️anything is possible. I don’t fully trust him but I trust his mom if he is Dr. Sullivan’s son
I really think its a liar in on it and sb not so close to them in on it. multiple hands are in on it.
Really?!?! Which one and why?
@@SLTAngst between mouse or noa. So much more Mouse really yeah she got attacked but that would be genius to do so no one thinks it you. On top of the spooky spaghetti thing. no evidence on Noa really but it’s something abt the Summer School season poster - the one in yall thumbnail. Everybody else is shocked except Mouse and Noa. Also Noa bikini shows me duality. Right out the gate of this season we’re seeing a different side of Noa - Steal the rolex, shady comments towards Shawn mother, lying etc.
@@SLTAngst also the scenes where all the liars find their seperate roses said alot. That person knew their schedule. It had to be someone who knows their day to day life maybe with the help of other ppl in on it. So a liar saying “shes going to be at work xyz plant it here” to a helper. Cus at that point all of the new ppl just came into the picture.
It would be great if it was one of the girls because that would have been better in the first PLL. I remember everyone said it was Aria.
i feel like this season is so much more interesting thematically and the cinematography and visuals have improved a lot !
1) also i think that she wasnt lying about her son, she mentions that she has "suffered extreme loss" so i think it was implying that he died
2) also im missing the presence of the moms this season! im glad they explained their absence but i feel like sidney should be appearing more?
Ooo that's true and very possible. At this point, anything can be true lol
We also miss the mom's. They were great in season 1 and I get that it's not longer about them, but also..it is lol