Jin Roh Movie Review: Cry "Havoc!" and Let Slip the Dogs of War

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  • @Raj80191
    @Raj80191 2 роки тому +647

    "We aren't men disguised as dogs. We're wolves disguised as men"

    • @MrLolguy93
      @MrLolguy93 2 роки тому +7

      Homo homini lupus est

    • @kyon813
      @kyon813 2 роки тому +15

      And the wolf ate up Little Red Riding Hood...

    • @darth_dan8886
      @darth_dan8886 2 роки тому +4

      @@MrLolguy93 And then you look at the world and start hoping it was that way.

    • @schizophrenic_rambler
      @schizophrenic_rambler 2 роки тому +4

      Kinda furry ngl

    • @MeowPh1
      @MeowPh1 2 роки тому +3

      @@schizophrenic_rambler Except these furries wear a heavy armor and wield MG42.

  • @jekkijekster
    @jekkijekster 2 роки тому +764

    A detail I love about Jin Roh is the impact of the bullets. While most anime just have the bodies fall like they slipped on a banana peel, this movie has limp bodies flailing around as it gets riddled with lead while their dead eyes just stare into the abyss. beautifully brutal.

    • @Snakedude4life
      @Snakedude4life 2 роки тому +48

      Very few works of fiction get that “dead eyes” thing right.

    • @josedorsaith5261
      @josedorsaith5261 2 роки тому +42

      And the impacts of errant bullets on concrete, water, etc. They don't just skip off of surfaces, like the Lazer tracers in other anime

    • @g00gleisgayerthanaids56
      @g00gleisgayerthanaids56 2 роки тому +33

      Ehh... i mean, a minigun will "puppify" a human being, thats why you strafe targets and dont fixate on one; but normal firearms dont do this. People dont die instantly and flail about all willy nilly.
      I was a combat medic, and something of note that i noticed when working was that real cadavers "looked fake" and i mean that in the sense that a man that i worked closely with ended up taking a round to the heart, and he fought for about 30 seconds before he was just, gone. When the dust settled and we had him back in the aid station... i straight up didnt recognize him, it wasnt until i saw his nametape that i realized who was laying down in front of me. Shit still fucks with me.
      It was a green on blue for anyone curious.

    • @g00gleisgayerthanaids56
      @g00gleisgayerthanaids56 2 роки тому +15

      @@josedorsaith5261 not to be that guy but rounds do skip off of hard flat surfaces... the fbi literally had doctrine concerning "skipping" shotgun shot across parking lots and underneath parked cars. Paul harrel has a solid video on the subject here on youtube, dude can explain it was better than i can.
      Edit: we're also trained to not stack on walls, even mudwalls commonly used in afghan qalat villages.

    • @GigaChadh976
      @GigaChadh976 2 роки тому +19

      It’s like how revy describes it “nobody goes flying back. In reality? You’re legs lose their strength and you slump over.”

  • @kapparomeo
    @kapparomeo 2 роки тому +570

    One thing that always intrigues me about Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade is how the story wrongfoots your expectations. With the opening riot scene and chasing down the revolutionaries in the sewer you think it's going to be a fairly standard Red-vs-Blue tale, but then it swerves off in a completely different direction and becomes a tale of an internal power struggle within the Blues where the Reds barely even have a passing role. It definitely doesn't resort to common tropes.

    • @MrFRNTIK
      @MrFRNTIK 2 роки тому +34

      My first time watching it I was very confused because of all the "rwds" memes. Really thought it was going to be the reds defending themselves against the blues, but it turned out to be the blues defending against themselves, and I really liked that surprise. You can really get Invested in Fuse's character because he's just so human.

    • @oddacity5883
      @oddacity5883 2 роки тому +23

      This movie and Patlabor 2 really scratches my itch for politically charged power struggles (man Mamoru Oshii loves his political power struggles huh)

    • @acidicjosh3813
      @acidicjosh3813 2 роки тому +7

      I like how the fact the story’s focus on morality and the blurring of black and white runs parallel to the plot

    • @Cowboycomando54
      @Cowboycomando54 9 місяців тому +2

      Plus there is the whole bit were Germany won WW2

    • @Berserker3624
      @Berserker3624 7 місяців тому

      in my opinion sect are the bad guys. all we know about this Japan was that it was conquered by the Germans and that they decided to rebuild Japan by heavy indusltriztion. it never once mentions how the government is being in any way overly cruel to the people, meanwhile the rebels are killing cops, civilians as well as destroying entire areas of the city, if you ask me there the bad guy not the wolf brigade.

  • @noravanguard
    @noravanguard 2 роки тому +338

    this movie always been on my ever increasing "to watch list"

    • @darunealbane
      @darunealbane 2 роки тому +3

      Watched ot over 10 yrs ago ... WELL worth the watch
      BTW is an adaption (at base) of the grim fairy tail red riding hood 😁 .. had to add .. the ORIGINAL fairytale (all grims end badly)

    • @bc9402
      @bc9402 2 роки тому +1

      Give it watch, it’s genuinely good.

    • @Calajese
      @Calajese 2 роки тому +2

      Put it at the top, you won't regret it

    • @leomuar1286
      @leomuar1286 2 роки тому

      This comment is too relatable for me

    • @baitposter
      @baitposter 2 роки тому +2

      Definitely move this one on up. Watched it on a whim because of a meme, and it's definitely an inspiringly human tale, in its own way.

  • @feIIas
    @feIIas 2 роки тому +465

    I want everyone to take a moment just to appreciate the design of the armor. So many other anime use ridiculously impractical armor designs that either serve little protection or would in reality be more cumbersome than helpful. But Jin Roh's armor is practical, and more importantly, effective, and perhaps most usefully, inspires real fear in the people who see it. Demonic armor or evil looking armor, while occasionally looking awesome, strikes more fear into its victims due to the reputation of the wearer. But here? There's no face to the armor. Just cold, red eyes staring at you down the barrel of an mg42. Bullets bounce off them, and the entire time, that piercing red glare just stares into you. More shows need to take inspiration from Jin Roh.

    • @guotyr2502
      @guotyr2502 2 роки тому

      Did you even watch the video you troglodite?

    • @dawatchng
      @dawatchng 2 роки тому +24

      I love the armor here too but, I'm going to be totally real with you here, i have no idea what you're talking about. The armor looks pretty evil/scifi. Are there other more ridiculous armors in anime and stuff? Probably, but there's a lot of extra stuff here. They've already got the SHOULDER PADS meme happening, and their kneepads look like a Skyrim joke. And what's the tactical ribcage? And I'm pretty sure red eyes and gas masks are standard fare in being "the face of evil". Even having an unreactive face is a common trope of being the scary storm trooper.

    • @feIIas
      @feIIas 2 роки тому +14

      @@dawatchng did it come across like i was saying that it didn't look demonic? Shoot, that wasn't my intent. I was saying they managed to do evil in a way most other animes fail to do while still keeping their effectiveness. It takes a bomb blast that knocked out power at point blank, and the wearers come out no worse for wear. Even if the design is a little more "evil" than what the source manga uses, I think it's okay for the purposes of the movie.

    • @dawatchng
      @dawatchng 2 роки тому +12

      @@feIIas Sorry it's looks like I'm the one who has trouble communicating. I took more issue with you saying it looked practical or realistic, which I would disagree with. But I guess you just meant in comparison to other armors.
      I do agree with you that I wish armor was shown to be more effective in actually blocking shit in media (even though tanking an explosion seems to be a little much but I'll just chill that up to the tech of the setting).

    • @feIIas
      @feIIas 2 роки тому +21

      @@dawatchng i believe it's called something like Rolled Homogenous Armor, which is the same kind of steel plating that was used on Tanks up until post-ww2. Iirc, the germans used this armor at the battle of stalingrad in the history of the Kerberos Saga, so it makes sense they'd need it to be able to deal with stronger stuff. While I'm sure that the *armor* would be fine, I think I have a harder time believing that the men inside it would be fine afterwards.

  • @EnvyMachinery
    @EnvyMachinery 2 роки тому +168

    I'm impressed you managed to make it through this without saying "gun porn" even a single time.

  • @NSGeneratedContent
    @NSGeneratedContent 2 роки тому +189

    19:30 just a small nicpick, there's actually a modern MG42 called the MG3 that's in use by the German military that's literally just a MG42 chambered in 7.62x51 NATO, so it wouldn't be too crazy to think they'll still use MG42s.

    • @glennmusk5650
      @glennmusk5650 2 роки тому +20

      I think the point with not using the mg42 was because it takes place in korea where none of the previous world building took place so it wouldnt make to much sense that theh would use mg42s or mg3s. They sick as fuck tho so it dont matter too mich

    • @NosferatuandFriends
      @NosferatuandFriends 2 роки тому +21

      Also the 240 is NOT a modern recreation of the M60, the FN Mag started production within a year of the M60 and is based off a browning action rather than the Lewis gun action. I've had it with these board tourists larping on /k/

    • @bluecaptainIT
      @bluecaptainIT 2 роки тому +3

      @@glennmusk5650 does the OG Jin Roh take place in Korea? I thought it was set in a "alternate history" Japan. Like, in the '50s.

    • @glennmusk5650
      @glennmusk5650 2 роки тому +3

      @@bluecaptainIT yeah i fucked up lol

    • @andrehashimoto8056
      @andrehashimoto8056 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@bluecaptainIT
      Anime, LN and Manga tale place in AU Japan (They allied with the Allied instead, yet still somehow got their homeland invaded by German Engineering Panzer Soldiers, because it seems WW2 Imperial Japan MUST lose their side of the war or whatever).
      The LA movie sets itself into same AU, but in Korea, when the two halves are about to reunify and the plot remains more or less the same.

  • @torshec8634
    @torshec8634 2 роки тому +152

    Good to see Guts trade his Dragonslayer and Berserker Armor for an MG42 and Protect Gear. And in the end, he still suffers.
    And aside from that, the Korean version just doesn't mesh well for me when it couldn't even try to make something comparable to the original WW2 Alternate History but trades it for the Korean Reunification and that paranoia against China, Japan, Russia and the US that doesn't explain the German weaponry and why they are using Protect Gear. Nice aesthetic and costume design but too much action K-movie stuff.

    • @werstwally01
      @werstwally01 2 роки тому +2

      I thought it was guts

    • @ZX-Gear
      @ZX-Gear 6 місяців тому

      At the very least,the English Dub of that film has Johnny Yong Bosch in it.

  • @jpbst4503
    @jpbst4503 2 роки тому +175

    The sneedclave will never die.A video about fallout the frontier will be hilarious.

    • @WhiskeyPatriot
      @WhiskeyPatriot 2 роки тому +43

      We will sneed on the beaches.

    • @ZX-Gear
      @ZX-Gear 6 місяців тому +1

      Nate the Rake at it again this time working for the Enclave

  • @chrisbj5251
    @chrisbj5251 2 роки тому +52

    the most badass looking armor in media history period. It inspired countless designs like my favorite example: NCR Ranger Combat Armor.

  • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
    @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 2 роки тому +61

    You got through this entire video without making reference to Berserk. This is despite the fact that the main character has a near identical face to Guts, just detailed using a different type of anime art style. 👏👏👏

  • @equesvulpes9686
    @equesvulpes9686 2 роки тому +179

    kinda surprised how you didn't talk about the subtle body language of everyone in the movie. the reason the red riding hood blew herself up at the start is mostly because she didn't understand fuse didn't want to mag dump her. the scene right after she pulls the wire, where you see fuse reacting in shock, and it's good enough for the audience to understand what face he makes even though he has a mask on.
    it's shit like that which makes the movie really stand out from the minimal viable product that gets released nowadays.

    • @GhostMaker00
      @GhostMaker00 7 місяців тому

      Look at the guy who cocks his hand gun in the beginning and the end same dude.

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer 2 роки тому +121

    My favourite anime film of all time. That climax in the sewer is fantastic.

    • @polandstronk1026
      @polandstronk1026 2 роки тому +16

      'climax in the sewer' can easily be taken out of context
      It sounds like going into illegal hõõker ring under city

  • @alexkogan9755
    @alexkogan9755 2 роки тому +81

    Jin Roh’s animation comes shockingly close to the visual quality of older Disney movies with how natural everyone moves, as opposed to the usual, um, stiffness of most anime shows and movies.

  • @wh3nderson95
    @wh3nderson95 2 роки тому +53

    The version of Jin-Roh homage is the game Operation Darkness where you encounter mechanized German infantry. There is a "hidden" character in a level if you kill everyone else except this one enemy, triggers a cutscene. A Panzertrooper named Max joins your party. So it was sick as fuck to have a badass Wolf Brigade soldier helping you beat Hitler and stop his cloning program.

    • @dansmith1661
      @dansmith1661 Рік тому

      Nothing badass about fighting Hitler. Cuck NPC.

  • @jwolf961
    @jwolf961 2 роки тому +61

    The Helghast were made by dutch people who had no clue what the wolf brigade was, according to them: everything being so similar was an accident, and even the iconic glowing eyes of the Helghast were done as a way to help playtesters score headshots, as the poor-fidelity ps2 era graphics combined with the gritty environment of killzone one made that a bit challenging.

    • @chaospacemarine8330
      @chaospacemarine8330 2 роки тому

      Yeah the "brown/light = real" made it a necessity.
      Also the helghast did nothing wrong, death to the I.S.A.!

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 2 роки тому +1

      Oh wow so not a single dutch person knows about jinroh?

    • @jwolf961
      @jwolf961 2 роки тому +17

      @@chillhour6155 Not everyone is completely absorbed in anime, homie, even more so in an era before anime streaming services(or streaming services in general), in a time where watching anime outside of maybe serial anime like pokemon and DBZ(both more of an american phenom circa 2002 or so, when the Dutch folks at guerilla started making killzone, i'd wager half of the people watching this video werent even born by then. I doubt a bunch of developers who grew in maybe 70's-80's had any reason, culturally to give a damn about some obscure series from japan, too busy caring about dutch disco or whatever they liked, lol. tl;dr:there was a time when anime was less than mainstream, bro

    • @kapparomeo
      @kapparomeo 2 роки тому +20

      @@chillhour6155 I don't think it's beyond possibility that two different designers hit on "dark black threatening armour with evil glowing eyes" separately from each other. Besides, the Helghast are stillquite different - the Kerberos wear football armour whereas the Helghast wear trench coats.

    • @StephenYuan
      @StephenYuan 2 роки тому +4

      The Dutch don't need a manga to steal their fascist imagery from. They had the real thing in spades not too long ago.

  • @roastedramen7929
    @roastedramen7929 2 роки тому +32

    for those interested in watching the first 2 kerberos movies
    red spectacles: ua-cam.com/video/HxjIhuxRVY0/v-deo.html
    stray dog: ua-cam.com/video/5Erna6H-w_o/v-deo.html

  • @zodiacthriller6094
    @zodiacthriller6094 2 роки тому +87

    The comparison to Starship Troopers is really accurate. I reread the book every couple years, but I still haven't been able to make it through the movie once because of the tone shift

    • @Chickenbowser
      @Chickenbowser 2 роки тому +16

      My friend got me to read the novel a few years ago and since then it's been one of my favorite books. The trade off is I now find the movie utterly disgusting. It fails to capture any of what made the novel so amazing, nor does it try. The director never read the book and just wanted to make a movie about fascism (even though he clearly doesn't understand the concept) and ignored the incredible storytelling and world building Heinlein had created. A lot of the internet big brains retroactively call the movie a brilliant satire but it's not. It's just a shitty movie with some meme worthy material in it. Read the novel, it's good shit!

    • @steverukia6247
      @steverukia6247 2 роки тому +1

      Could u explain what happens in the book plz

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 2 роки тому

      @@steverukia6247 knowing better made a good video about Starship Troopers that includes timestamps and in one section he summarizes the major points of the book
      In the book The main character spend a lot of time in the classroom

    • @josephgilboy6259
      @josephgilboy6259 2 роки тому +2

      to me they are so different as to be separate. the movie is a failed satire of masculinity and war propaganda and thus is awesome as hell. the book is an artful insight into a universe where "humanity unites against the aliens" but in a realistic way.

    • @aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051
      @aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 3 місяці тому

      @@Chickenbowser
      I don't like the novel and I like the movie, which is probably why I know more about it than you do. Imagine saying a guy who lived under fascism doesn't know what fascism is.

  • @cheeto4027
    @cheeto4027 2 роки тому +48

    Funnily enough this was actually one of the first animes I ever watched
    I remember watching it years ago expecting it to be the rwds anime but instead ended up loving it for how grim and brutal it was. Its still one of my favorites all these years later

    • @dansmith1661
      @dansmith1661 Рік тому

      It basically is RWDS anime since Japan is fighting commies within its government.

  • @heroinfather7787
    @heroinfather7787 2 роки тому +34

    I remember on a lonely rainy night after binging Black Clover and the 90s Fist of the North Star on VRV, I stumbled upon Jin Roh. I saw the description and the soilders and put it in my watch later tab simply for the armor looking like the Killzone characters. Point being for this paragraph is to say I eventually watched it and it was… great. Only bad thing I can say is it left me wanting more. As do most anime series (tasteful ones of course)

    • @HeavyReign12
      @HeavyReign12 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm absolutely burning through older anime because I got really into older Gundam. I know people act like we're just being haters and stuff, but they genuinely don't make them like they used to.
      Jin-Roh is like the greatest film I've ever seen. It's an anime film that makes me question if most anime is even good anymore. God I just loved it so much.

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 2 роки тому +66

    I’ve been waiting for this one.
    Excellent timing too since halo infinite just added a armor set that is literally called “Kerberos”.
    Now they just need to add a semi futuristic MG42.
    SAW42 anyone?
    🎩
    🐍no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @feIIas
      @feIIas 2 роки тому +5

      There's a few other anime references so far iirc, like one of the shaders being named after Paptimus Scirocco from Zeta Gundam. Who knows, if 343 pulls their head out of their ass one day and actually makes the game good and brings back guns like the SAW, we might get something that lets us make it look like an mg42

  • @Seeric85
    @Seeric85 2 роки тому +33

    "Sneedclave: Fuck Commies and Jannies" sounds like a great movie. Maybe we can get Elon Musk to fund it.

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 2 роки тому +51

    I do appreciate that this alternative history doesn’t have nazis ruling the world like always. Because to me a lot of people who do alternate history have a bad habit of making Nazis the rule of the world and I really appreciate that they do something that’s pretty new also we get bad ass Nazi looking soldiers and that’s a win,win in my eyes.😺

    • @feliperisseto9113
      @feliperisseto9113 2 роки тому +12

      I don't think the Nazi regime would last much longer after the war.

    • @cubankid1959
      @cubankid1959 2 роки тому +8

      Judging by history, most dictatorial states don't last particularly long after the guy holding it together bites the big one

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 2 роки тому +7

      Agreed of the things I like about the latest Wolfenstein game is how in America the Nazis mostly rely upon local collaborators
      Like seriously how do people expect them to have enough manpower to Garrison the planet?

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt 2 роки тому

      @@cubankid1959 That's because first and foremost it's a cult of personality

    • @dansmith1661
      @dansmith1661 Рік тому

      It was designed to last. They just wouldn't rule the world since all they wanted was to retake the land the J stole from them. Their opponents being literal slave empires is something else.@@feliperisseto9113

  • @moe3235
    @moe3235 3 місяці тому +2

    The musical choices, you continue to show you indeed are a man of true culture 👌

  • @angmori172
    @angmori172 3 місяці тому +6

    Just wanna chime in regarding the M240 thing: The MG42 is still used by many modern militaries under the name MG3. So no, they WOULD use MG42s :)

  • @dawnstarguard9398
    @dawnstarguard9398 2 роки тому +17

    “It’s best Jin Roh stays quite for now” *for now*

  • @CatsOverdrive
    @CatsOverdrive 2 роки тому +11

    The one thing that stood out and made me fall in love with this movie, is its contextual reveal for the protagonist's internal struggle. It's so easy for this kind of story to be about a dude who did wrong on the job, agonize over it, then realize "he's on the wrong side after all", in which it's climax and resolution involves him having a change of heart, and a rebellion/uprise third act as his redemption.
    In Jin-Roh, the twist is that his "soul searching" and attempts at connecting with Kei (which is the bulk of the film's focus) was never about him contemplating on his conflicted conscience. No, it's actually just him trying to see if his humanity COULD get in the way of fulfilling his role in the Wolf Brigade--The slow, emotionless suit-up scene being his stone-cold proverbial reply. Also why I really like the ending, it's an incredible personal climax. Fuse, despite his emotions in great protest, still managed to do what "has to be done" and executed Kei. A very grim and fucked-up "character growth", and I love it.
    The Korean action-flick/adaptation is okay, reminded me of another K-action movie "Steel Rain" so I can't hate it. At least, for me, the deviations are not as monumentally stupid or downright insulting/condescending to the og work, as when typical modern hollywood "adapt" something.

  • @themostdeadmeme1609
    @themostdeadmeme1609 2 роки тому +36

    Loli literally has an insane work ethic. He just pumps out banger content every couple weeks and I love it.
    What drugs are you taking for this to happen? Asking for a friend.

  • @ivankrylov6270
    @ivankrylov6270 2 роки тому +10

    The MG3 is still used by militaries, and is basically an mg42 rechambered in 7.62 nato even has the iconic shroud
    So the modern thing still holds up in the Korean version

  • @chemergency
    @chemergency 2 роки тому +7

    Jin-Roh is a classic I'd put right up there with Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Perfect Blue, Redline, and most of Hayao Miyuzaki's films.

  • @joshualazua5511
    @joshualazua5511 3 місяці тому +1

    Getting whiplash hearing a Negative XP song on a random UA-cam video I found about an anime I love

  • @att7364
    @att7364 2 роки тому +13

    nice present after the stream

  • @jekkijekster
    @jekkijekster 2 роки тому +21

    God that Negative XP intro lmao

  • @codybrox4693
    @codybrox4693 2 роки тому +30

    God the level of detail not just in the animation makes it a masterpiece
    Why don’t they animate films like this in the style they did in the film or Akira or ghost in the shell?

    • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
      @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 2 роки тому +4

      If only the amount of bullet holes was consistent with how many times the jobbers got shot.

    • @DraxonTehWarrior
      @DraxonTehWarrior 2 роки тому +6

      Expensive.

    • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
      @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 2 роки тому

      @@DraxonTehWarrior I was more so talking about the first action scene. There were dozens of guys with MG42s, all firing at the same clustered targets. Despite all this, there's only maybe 2 dozen bullet holes.
      I think it would be better if the first action scene had "Hitler's Buzzsaw" live up to its name with multiple people using them on the same target. Physically ripping them to pieces like a bullet MGR boss death would be a bit more immersive (among other things).
      The final death in the final action scene displays many more bullet holes than the previous deaths with a platoon worth of soldiers.

    • @chadkingoffuckmountain970
      @chadkingoffuckmountain970 2 роки тому +8

      Akira and Ghost in the Shell was made in a great economic boom in Japan. Nowadays, the economy ain't so great. It all comes down to money in the end.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 3 місяці тому

      @@lljkgktudjlrsmygilugRealistically they wouldn’t be standing long enough to be shredded like that but stylistically it speaks volumes, and that I admire

  • @kylerbinder804
    @kylerbinder804 2 роки тому +10

    You know I do genuinely wonder why you don't have more subs, not trying to downplay the youtube algorithm ass fucking many good channels but after your berserk videos, im convinced you're one of the best reviewer's/commentators on the site. I do find your commentary not overly biased and also entertaining enough to binge everything you've made. Cheers loli

    • @LethargicGM
      @LethargicGM 2 роки тому +7

      I think it's a mix of TAL's name scaring people away (as it's intended to do), him throwing in edgy jokes and being openly right-wing politically.

  • @Captain_Andor
    @Captain_Andor 6 місяців тому +2

    The Killzone games definitely got inspired by the movie or manga also I think in Killzone 2 the online mode there was an outfit called the Wolf man that looked almost exactly like this I think but Killzone 2 online is long dead so memory could be getting it confused with the Wolf Brigade costume in MGS4 online

  • @darion8476
    @darion8476 9 місяців тому +3

    I really love the music you use in your vids

  • @tec590
    @tec590 2 роки тому +3

    love the video your channel really helped me through my transition

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 2 роки тому +4

    I really need to listen to more Negative XP. Seriously, he rocks and is basically my generation's version of PUNK.

  • @Trevor-08
    @Trevor-08 2 роки тому +7

    One of my favorite anime of all time. It's one of those movie that I look at differently as I get older.
    I was always low key hoping we'd get to rock similar gear when I joined the army, lol.

  • @sparrowsanzo
    @sparrowsanzo 2 роки тому +5

    I noticed another thing inspired by Jin-Roh. Resident Evil. Particularly Hunk and members of the Umbrella Security Service. They’re modeled after the Wolf Brigade.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 3 місяці тому

      Red goggled eyes, gas masks and wide-spaced helmets go hard

  • @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
    @lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 2 роки тому +41

    What makes me quite me amused about this series is that the "alternate history" aspect in the form of the Nazis winning WW2 is just an excuse for German iconography, from both the perspective of a casual viewer (myself) and a more serious viewer. A Jin Roh style style story, with all of its plot beats and themes, can be made without the German iconography. You could have an alternate WW2 that still results in Japan being occupied by another power, but its still the Americans in our timeline, but more brutal and invasive. Say Operation Downfall occurs and the Martial plan that rebuilds Europe has far more American control than our own timeline. A fascist Japanese government with a death squad with low public approval ratings, created in an attempt to avoid breaking a no armed forces clause in a constitution that was forced onto it by a former occupier, is all still possible.
    The Jin Roh we actually have explicitly went through the route it did for German iconography because of its symbolic importance. An entire series created an alternate history set in Japan to create a more thematically immersive story, all because of the (well deserved) hatred and fear associated with the symbols of Nazism. This is a ramble, but the idea that a story explicitly made an alternate history to fit a certain aesthetic to enhance the themes of the story just seems amusing to myself. What do you think, Loli?
    On an unrelated note, if Loli is reading this, what exactly did you think "Jin Roh" as a brand was actually going to be? While you did dub it the "Rightwing Death Squad the Anime" as a description of what others thought of it, I do wonder if you had a similar preconception before discovering what its actually about. In addition to this, do you think the Illang film is more in line with what most people thought "Jin Roh" as a brand actually is from the outside?

    • @sulimanthemagnificent4893
      @sulimanthemagnificent4893 2 роки тому +5

      It’s also because Jin-Roh is a reflection of the political beliefs of its creators, and in order to not make it obvious they are against the status quo, they hid it using completely made up events and circumstances, the symbolism is an added bonus.
      At least that’s my opinion, I can’t cite sources since it’s been so long, and I can’t be arsed researching either.

    • @ShinigamiInuyasha777
      @ShinigamiInuyasha777 2 роки тому

      Yeah. I think that a pro US goverment far right dictatorship with death squads would fly to clóse to reality so the creators avoid it altogether

    • @moistjohn
      @moistjohn 2 роки тому

      Well the "nazis" didn't win here. With operation Valkyrie succeeding the nazis are ousted from the government by the new military junta.

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 Рік тому +1

      To also be fair, the original stories have more of the theme of "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
      The Keberos Panzer Cops/Special Armed Garrison stages a coup to keep the power invested in them as a counter terror unit. The coup takes over parts of Tokyo and was eventually destroyed when the Army gets itself together destroys the coup attempt. It is hinted from original media that Keberos aligned people would have turned Japan into a police state, so the coup being quelled means that a more democratic Japan has a much better chance.

    • @dansmith1661
      @dansmith1661 Рік тому

      The Germans were justified in their actions. Look at the Allies being White, slave-owning empires of centuries.

  • @typical_human
    @typical_human Рік тому +3

    this guy always plays awesome music in the background i love the velvet underground

  • @ZX-Gear
    @ZX-Gear 6 місяців тому +2

    So there was a Korean Live Adaptation with an English Dub with Johnny Yong Bosch casted as the MC.

  • @IRUKANJI
    @IRUKANJI Рік тому +2

    Never thought I'd see Negative XP in an anime video.

  • @Jakezergling
    @Jakezergling 2 роки тому +1

    The little detail of them using MKB42 rifles for training was neat

  • @reverendvargoth5870
    @reverendvargoth5870 2 роки тому +2

    By far one of my favorite pieces of entertainment, what an incredible story and brutal kinetic action. This series along with firing the weapon in person made the MG-42 my favorite light machinegun of all time. The armor alone is some of the most iconic armor in any genre I've seen, and the story is honestly a beautiful encapsulation of love, death, and political intrigue done respectfully and interestingly.

  • @GK-mr9ko
    @GK-mr9ko 2 роки тому +3

    Watched this in the fall, and damn it beautiful and not what I was expecting.

  • @glennmusk5650
    @glennmusk5650 2 роки тому +2

    Everytime i watch your videos theres always an absolute banger at the start of the video and other sick songs throughout. You got me into the sword, wolfmother and now Negative XP. Cheers for that

  • @brianpeterson9950
    @brianpeterson9950 Рік тому +1

    New to channel but have been recommended many times. The opening bit had me a little worried lmao, but you handled the memery of the aesthetic really well. Excellently put together essay, and I liked the Liana Flores song! Really fits the tone, more than I realized. Subscribed!
    Edit: Also, not to excuse Illiang but just a fun fact, the MG42 was rechambered for 7.62 NATO and is still in service as the MG3!

  • @SushiSteakSeafood
    @SushiSteakSeafood 2 роки тому +5

    Based Grimbeard Enjoyer

  • @deviousj5868
    @deviousj5868 2 роки тому +3

    I started the live action version I just hope its still up on streaming. This movie is an underrated masterpiece its a more grounded Akira that focused on uprising.

  • @EatWave
    @EatWave 2 роки тому +8

    Now I am wondering if the creators of the Halo TV show called themselves trying to make their own version of Jin-Roh The Wolf Brigade updated for modern sensibilities rather than a video game adaptation.

    • @luxeternity
      @luxeternity 2 роки тому

      What?

    • @snimon5824
      @snimon5824 2 роки тому +2

      Wait...what??.....
      Well now looking back, the TV show really is a shitty version of Jin-Roh.

  • @voninselher4883
    @voninselher4883 2 роки тому +1

    Oldboy, memoir of a murderer,bittersweet life, the chaser and lady vengeance are also very nice Korean thrillers

  • @wickedfox8470
    @wickedfox8470 2 роки тому +8

    There's something about these grim dark tales that don't end well that are way more interesting than ones that have happy endings

    • @Thorfinn_Son_Of_Thors
      @Thorfinn_Son_Of_Thors 2 роки тому +2

      We're so used to a happy ending being shoved down the throat "He gets the girl he loves while keeping his humanity!" Nothin' wrong with a happy ending, but dark endings feel more realistic.

    • @HeavyReign12
      @HeavyReign12 11 місяців тому +1

      For me, these sad and more realistic endings enhance my understanding of life somehow. It's like I've learned more about myself or the world. It's like I'm being dragged into reality whereas bright happy endings are purely an escape from reality.

  • @jaanuspapp1333
    @jaanuspapp1333 8 місяців тому +1

    19:30 actually the MG42 still serves in many european miltaries to this day, as a "modernized" variant called the MG3 (basically MG42 but 7.62x51nato). So them using the MG3 is not completely unrealistic, since it does still see wide military use. But M60, Daewoo K3, PKM, RPK, RPD would make more sense since thats what the koreans are actually useing.

  • @Skyfirenorth
    @Skyfirenorth 2 роки тому +1

    I just finished Part 4 of the Berserk Saga and as I'm sitting here, thinking to myself "I wonder if he has something on Jin Roh" ... I see your movie review, uploaded 10 days ago. Thank you so much for your great work man! Can't wait for Part 5 and more from you to come.

  • @fmsyntheses
    @fmsyntheses 2 роки тому +5

    The next film Okiura made was a sweet children's story, Momo e no Tegami. Check that one out.

  • @buggyyuji851
    @buggyyuji851 2 роки тому +4

    One my favorite underrated classic anime movie friends hook to this movie going back to see again after the great reviews video thank loil

  • @zeroloid9762
    @zeroloid9762 2 роки тому +8

    I think a key difference in the comparison between Jin Roh vs Illang, and the Starship Troopers book vs the movie, is the fact that the Starship Troopers movie deliberately railed against the content of the book, whereas Illang feels like it just missed the point. That's why the Starship Troopers movie was able to succeed on its own.

  • @ulric8445
    @ulric8445 2 роки тому +5

    We can just say the MG42’s are MG3’s in the Korean adaptation. The MG3 is pretty much a modernised MG42

  • @marvelous_jack5228
    @marvelous_jack5228 2 роки тому +2

    Tbh, i'm surprised ya hadn't done a vid on this sooner, either way, i'm glad ya got around to it!

  • @_lxufeyscn_
    @_lxufeyscn_ 2 роки тому +2

    Didn’t think you’d cover this anime. It’s so good.

  • @Spawnzilla014
    @Spawnzilla014 2 роки тому +1

    I remember watching this movie a while ago. It reminded me of Ghost in the Shell in many ways, and I like that. The ending was shocking and depressing, though. But to be fair, that’s probably most fitting for the sake of the story and it’s setting. I recommend this for anyone who likes serious anime movies!

  • @darwinaguilero3175
    @darwinaguilero3175 2 роки тому +25

    No dark skinned tomboys? Oh well. Depression is a good alternative. Good review, I’ve constantly seen the fights of Jin-Roh in gun sakuga so I’ll check it out. Great review yet again Loli, cheers.
    I’ll probably make a subscribestar request this month, since I’m actually turning 20 this year. God, I’m old.

  • @mohammedtahat9827
    @mohammedtahat9827 2 роки тому

    Omg i was waiting for this for ages thanks for the man that requested this and thank you❤❤❤❤

  • @davidward3848
    @davidward3848 2 роки тому +1

    I just realized the reason I smoke cigarettes the way I do is from the instructor, fuse's mentor.

  • @ericktorres674
    @ericktorres674 2 роки тому

    I remember watching this in while I was in high school because the armor reminded of the cover of Fahrenheit 451 that my schools library had.

  • @brandenlebowski6826
    @brandenlebowski6826 Рік тому +1

    One important thing to note is, that the version of Little Red Riding Hood is not an interpretation by the creators. Its the original version.
    The classic european fairytales usually do not have a happy end.
    The Brothers Grimm collection, Disney and the sorts cemented the versions we all know.
    The original might be harsh but from my point of view, is the better or at least more "effective" kids tale.
    I mean, she is told two times: " Girl, open your dame eyes and stop eating your granny!"
    Then she gets eaten and there is no woodsman coming to save her. There is a consequence to her running into the most obvious trap ever.

  • @zesork5627
    @zesork5627 2 роки тому

    You convinced me to actually give this a watch after four years of it being on my "watch someday" folder, thanks.

  • @EDP2000
    @EDP2000 2 роки тому +3

    Negative XP at the start? Excellent taste, my dude

  • @Acesahn
    @Acesahn 2 роки тому +3

    MC: Why do I have to kill her?
    Leader: Cuz we need to have this wicked awesome big bad wolf reference.
    MC: ...Is that really the reason you're asking me to murder this woman I care for?
    Leader: Basically.

  • @Nate_the_Nobody
    @Nate_the_Nobody 2 роки тому +1

    19:27
    Actually, what would make the MOST sense, and still fit perfectly, is the MG3, it spawned in west germany around 1968 and is STILL in active use with at least 20 countries, that and it's basically just a reverse engineered MG42, the only down side is that it cuts the fire rate from 1,500 RPM to 950, but for the sake of the movie it wouldn't be crazy for them to have some specialized version made for their unit that keeps the original fire rate

  • @pontiusporcius8430
    @pontiusporcius8430 2 роки тому +1

    Kicking this off with edits to rival KnightSGC I see.

  • @ChairmanKam
    @ChairmanKam 2 роки тому +1

    19:40 Actually... The 240 and the 60 were in development at the same time and we're competitors. I only learned that from Gun Jesus's recent vids.

  • @crosslineanimator2040
    @crosslineanimator2040 Рік тому +2

    You know you found a good channel, when it has Gachi memes

  • @duckificer
    @duckificer 2 роки тому +1

    there were robots who looked like the wolf bregade in one of the scooby doo series as well

  • @Vilverna
    @Vilverna 2 роки тому +1

    Jin Roh sounds poggers and now I want to watch it.

  • @gintokisakata1917
    @gintokisakata1917 2 роки тому +1

    Jin Roh is a masterpiece. One of my top 10 of all time. (Paranoia Agent is another great one)

  • @Henskelion
    @Henskelion Рік тому

    Feeling really old now when you mention people only knowing this movie from the RWDS memes; I remember seeing it for the first time around 14 years ago because of a Jin Roh AMV set to Suicide Commando music and torrented it because I thought it looked like a cool action movie. How time flies.

  • @insekki
    @insekki Рік тому

    The good, the bad, and the weird is such an underrated film imo. Love it.

  • @niccolomiglio6996
    @niccolomiglio6996 3 місяці тому

    24:43 this is an actually interesting change, since in the extended version it is revealed it's the Team Leader who shot her with a sniper rifle since he realised Fuze wasn't strong enough to do it himself.

  • @H250V
    @H250V 2 роки тому +2

    Wasn't expecting this, but since I was hyped for this, couldn't go to sleep without watching it. (Also, I can see what ya mean about the Korean Wolf Brigade being different. Might check it, but I kind of felt hearing that it wasn't Jin-Roh was gonna turn me off from it if I ever did see it. Like it seems cool, but I like the bleakness of the Wolf Brigade - men who lost their humanity in order to become the best killing machines. Tragic, yet satisfying.)

  • @chrispapa101
    @chrispapa101 7 місяців тому +4

    Not gonna lie I am pretty surprised how much appealing the 'Rightwing Death-squad' sounds in the recent year and after many recent events. Mostly because of how annoying the left wing has become.

  • @DevilPogoStick
    @DevilPogoStick 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah, it's a beautiful yet very depressing and kickass anime film. Especially if you've looked at the rest of the Kerberos series which adds that extra kick in the junk when watching the ending.

  • @MrFredstt
    @MrFredstt 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this movie watching it for the first time and I still love it

  • @smellslikeburny
    @smellslikeburny 2 роки тому +9

    yet another banger intro loli
    if they wanted a modern MG-42 they could have used the MG-3 but thats also just a nitpick on my end, another good video

  • @uncreativename826
    @uncreativename826 2 роки тому +3

    In the Korean version could use the MG3

  • @tim4330
    @tim4330 2 роки тому +1

    3:49 me and you when our playlists and taste in music are eerily similar, my I Recommend you Sturgill Simpson's Sound and Fury if you have not see or watched it yet already

  • @nak3dxsnake
    @nak3dxsnake Рік тому

    One of a handful of anime I count on my list of enjoyable works. Its all about the art for me and the more realistic the better. Jin-Roh does a good job of grounding you in its story.

  • @squishy550
    @squishy550 Рік тому

    what a edit at the beginning. not only is it satisfying when you done know the context, it really is almost disgusting after you watch the video. im assuming thats kinda how most people think about the movie as a whole after watching it, after only having seen the gory awesome actions scenes on tik tok or youtube shorts.

  • @Shadow-ek6qb
    @Shadow-ek6qb 2 місяці тому +1

    ANOTHER recommendation I just thought of is, Genocidal Organ. A really unknown anime about America becoming an intelligence hellhole after 9/11 and the sacrifice of privacy for safety.Its a really war psychological movie you would love

    • @Shadow-ek6qb
      @Shadow-ek6qb 2 місяці тому

      I get I’m not a subscriber however these are really good shows I think you would personally adore

  • @pontiusporcius8430
    @pontiusporcius8430 2 роки тому +1

    Hats off to covering genuine perfection my man.

  • @mysteryman4915
    @mysteryman4915 2 роки тому +2

    People say the Buzzsaw from Far Cry 4 (best gun in the game. Don’t at me) was based off the smart gun from Aliens. We know where it really came from.

  • @justincholos.balisang6884
    @justincholos.balisang6884 2 роки тому +1

    I wish this movie got a sequel or a prequel in form of a series or a movie.

  • @carlmanvers5009
    @carlmanvers5009 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this film. Remarkably pertinent in today's world too.

  • @UnknownLord711
    @UnknownLord711 2 роки тому +1

    I watched this movie the ending was very heart wrenching

  • @oliverebbing6637
    @oliverebbing6637 2 роки тому

    That song in the beginning is now the one I listen to all the time :D

  • @omarsabir1210
    @omarsabir1210 2 роки тому +1

    God that armor suit is iconic

  • @abrahemsamander3967
    @abrahemsamander3967 2 роки тому +1

    To me, it reminds me of metro 33. I know you have incredible taste, with berserk and such. And I love the aesthetics of the movie and the entire franchise. So I guess there’s another cool series to become obsessed with XD

    • @abrahemsamander3967
      @abrahemsamander3967 2 роки тому

      The world building makes it sound even better. More thought out then just “Germany won world war 2.” But also “what if valekyrie was successful?”