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Hello all and Tested team, What would be the recommended way to watch the VR version of this inteveriew without having to use the Facebook/Oculus ecosystem ? I suppose that Revive may work, but isn't there a more straightforward way, ideally using an open format ? (I am using an HTC Vive and I don't see the Tested app listed on Steam, therefore I assume that it is exclusive to Facebook ...)
"Is any of this functional?!" YES! (it was at some point..!) We learned so much from the early Apollo missions, not just about space but how we need to prepare to be spaceworthy. Now, we're learning more with Artemis. Can't wait to see a moon base in our lifetime 😄
Hi, Adam! I wanted to clarify the assignments that led to Borman having one of these early Apollo suits for training. It was not used as part of Apollo 1 prime or back-up crew activities, it was for Apollo 2 (AS-205) training. At that time, in the second half of 1966, Grissom-White-Chaffee were the Apollo 1 crew, and their backups were McDivitt, Scott and Schweickart. Apollo 2, on the other hand, was basically a repeat of Apollo 1, flying Block I CSM 014 for two weeks in Earth orbit. Its prime crew were Schirra, Eisele and Cunningham, while their backup crew consisted of Borman (CDR), Stafford (Senior Pilot/CMP) and Collins (Pilot/LMP). In like November of 1966, sometime around there, NASA decided to cancel the Apollo 2 mission, as it would be flying the second and last Block I CSM planned to fly with crew, and that they wouldn't learn a lot from flying a second Block I flight. Assuming Apollo 1 flew as planned, they figured they could move directly into flying the Block II CSMs, starting even before the Saturn V was available, with a mission flying the first Block II and rendezvousing with a separately launched LM, each using a separate Saturn IB. Originally planned to use boosters 205 and 208, that mission was called AS-258 for a while. Then the CSM launch was moved in the planning to AS-207, so it became known as AS-278. The newly freed-up McDivitt crew was assigned to that flight and started studying up on the LM, while Schirra's crew was moved from Apollo 2 prime to Apollo 1 back-up. In the shuffle, Stafford was removed from Borman's crew and given his own crew, with Young and Cernan, while Anders was put on Borman's crew to replace Stafford. And since Anders had not flown in Gemini, he was made the LMP while Collins was "promoted" to CMP (which is why Collins has stated that he was "chosen" to be the guy who doesn't land on the Moon when AS-205 was canceled). In any event, the suit in the video was made and used during the time in mid to late 1966 when Borman was Schirra's backup on the Apollo 2 crew. They didn't spend a whole lot of time in that configuration of crew assignments, and Borman's next job would be as a prime CDR of one of the early Block II flights, in which NASA was still hoping to use the new ILC suits that were lagging in development. So, while it may have been used a few times during check-outs of CM-014 out at Downey, it was really rarely used. And besides, per suit expert Mike Collins, every crewman, prime and backup, got three suits made -- the flight suit, the training suit, and the backup suit. Except for the paperwork the Smithsonian has, there would be no way to tell which of these the suit in the video was. But no matter which of those three it was, it likely didn't get very much use before the Fire happened, and all of the planning that involved that suit got tossed out the window...
I’m amazed that a fingerprint, just left on the surface of the anodised parts actually starts to “eat” that surface. Leaving actual print shaped pitting visible under a microscope. Fascinating.
"Chaos is everywhere... I'd say chaos is the enemy, but it's like saying the weather is the enemy, it's literally just part of the process." ~ Adam Savage
Always love when Adams visits the Smithsonian , great info . It would seem that people who collect figures and things with different types of rubbers and plastics and keep them sealed in a box to retain value may be doing more harm then good although i would love to ask her this question , ventilation seems to be important ..
Adam the pen caps you noted are common to the military coats and flight jackets. They are off the shelf pen caps without a clip I’m note sure that the old stick pen caps were not used and when they switched I think part of the reason for them was in case the pen leaked but by the time of Apollo the fisher space pen was common to the astronauts gear these came over from DOD.
Yep! Though by the time Apollo flew, they were using both the pressure-feed pens (the "space pens") and fine-tipped felt point markers. The Russians mostly used pencils, but they didn't carry pencil sharpeners, which made the pencils less than useful after a while, lol. The reason for that was clear -- pencil shavings, especially carbon shavings from the "lead," could float behind instrument panels and compromise switches and electronics.
I love watching Adam gush about space engineering, and it's even better when you can tell how much the people he visits with care too :) Does anyone have any recommendations for beginner learning for space engineering?
@Adam Savage’s Tested #adamsavage , I think I may have the "spacers" shown @12:30 or pen lid covers from my step fathers days at Lockheed/skunk works, the shape seen in shot seems very close to what we have here in our collection here.
It would be great if Adam could visit the David Clark company because I think that they (or maybe Air Lock inc their subsidiary) have an in-house spacesuit museum.
And yep, since the David Clark Company made the Gemini suits and those early Apollo suits, they definitely made the one in the video. I mean, heck, about the only real difference between their Gemini and Apollo suits was that hard visor-ish thing they put onto the Apollo suits' helmets. 🙂
Adam should check out the British space moon suite which looks like something out of the destiny video game looks amazing but for obvious reasons it never really got the go ahead their are videos on UA-cam showing it off if you look for it
From Nylon suits of the past, to Moonikin of the present.. how far we advanced! The Moonikin they used for Artemis I looks so cool... hope we can get a close up someday.
I think it helps that Adam actually has a Gemini suit (or a really good replica of one) that is nearly identical to the one in the video. That happened because ILC was having problems delivering a usable Apollo suit, so for the Block I flights, NASA decided to use a very slightly redesigned version of the Gemini suits made by the David Clark Company.
I learned to fly at the airport where Frank Borman kept his planes. He flew quite aggressively among and between us newbs. He clearly had the skills to fly like that, but what an a-hole... Astronauts are almost all charismatic, cool people - Frank Borman is the clear exception in my mind.
This being released on the same day as the JoJo Part 6 final batch of episodes can't be a coincidence considering the themes of gravity, time and the space shuttle being in like 3 episodes.
I didn't see anywhere where he touched the suit. The camera angles make it look closer in some cases, but I don't think he would be that careless. He knows the delicacy and importance of these pieces too well for that.
Watch more from Adam's visit to the Smithsonian in VR on Meta Quest TV: creator.oculus.com/community/802834256715296/
or download our free app: www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2586839431358655/
Hello all and Tested team,
What would be the recommended way to watch the VR version of this inteveriew without having to use the Facebook/Oculus ecosystem ? I suppose that Revive may work, but isn't there a more straightforward way, ideally using an open format ? (I am using an HTC Vive and I don't see the Tested app listed on Steam, therefore I assume that it is exclusive to Facebook ...)
I believe that is an Omega Speedmaster Adam is wearing which is just so cool and apropos!
"Is any of this functional?!" YES! (it was at some point..!)
We learned so much from the early Apollo missions, not just about space but how we need to prepare to be spaceworthy. Now, we're learning more with Artemis. Can't wait to see a moon base in our lifetime 😄
This is one of the public employees everyone should thank for their service.
Hi, Adam! I wanted to clarify the assignments that led to Borman having one of these early Apollo suits for training. It was not used as part of Apollo 1 prime or back-up crew activities, it was for Apollo 2 (AS-205) training. At that time, in the second half of 1966, Grissom-White-Chaffee were the Apollo 1 crew, and their backups were McDivitt, Scott and Schweickart. Apollo 2, on the other hand, was basically a repeat of Apollo 1, flying Block I CSM 014 for two weeks in Earth orbit. Its prime crew were Schirra, Eisele and Cunningham, while their backup crew consisted of Borman (CDR), Stafford (Senior Pilot/CMP) and Collins (Pilot/LMP). In like November of 1966, sometime around there, NASA decided to cancel the Apollo 2 mission, as it would be flying the second and last Block I CSM planned to fly with crew, and that they wouldn't learn a lot from flying a second Block I flight. Assuming Apollo 1 flew as planned, they figured they could move directly into flying the Block II CSMs, starting even before the Saturn V was available, with a mission flying the first Block II and rendezvousing with a separately launched LM, each using a separate Saturn IB. Originally planned to use boosters 205 and 208, that mission was called AS-258 for a while. Then the CSM launch was moved in the planning to AS-207, so it became known as AS-278. The newly freed-up McDivitt crew was assigned to that flight and started studying up on the LM, while Schirra's crew was moved from Apollo 2 prime to Apollo 1 back-up. In the shuffle, Stafford was removed from Borman's crew and given his own crew, with Young and Cernan, while Anders was put on Borman's crew to replace Stafford. And since Anders had not flown in Gemini, he was made the LMP while Collins was "promoted" to CMP (which is why Collins has stated that he was "chosen" to be the guy who doesn't land on the Moon when AS-205 was canceled).
In any event, the suit in the video was made and used during the time in mid to late 1966 when Borman was Schirra's backup on the Apollo 2 crew. They didn't spend a whole lot of time in that configuration of crew assignments, and Borman's next job would be as a prime CDR of one of the early Block II flights, in which NASA was still hoping to use the new ILC suits that were lagging in development. So, while it may have been used a few times during check-outs of CM-014 out at Downey, it was really rarely used. And besides, per suit expert Mike Collins, every crewman, prime and backup, got three suits made -- the flight suit, the training suit, and the backup suit. Except for the paperwork the Smithsonian has, there would be no way to tell which of these the suit in the video was. But no matter which of those three it was, it likely didn't get very much use before the Fire happened, and all of the planning that involved that suit got tossed out the window...
The pen/pencil pockets on my old surplus N-3B parka have plastic pen caps in them as well.
I’m amazed that a fingerprint, just left on the surface of the anodised parts actually starts to “eat” that surface. Leaving actual print shaped pitting visible under a microscope.
Fascinating.
It's a problem with high-polish metal, I've heard with medieval re-enactment. You gotta clean your sword or fingerprints will leave rust-prints!
She's gotta have one of the coolest jobs ever!
"Chaos is everywhere...
I'd say chaos is the enemy, but it's like saying the weather is the enemy, it's literally just part of the process." ~ Adam Savage
Baba Booey is everywhere. The teeth and gums see-through the eternal lips.
@@jaredmehrlich6683 hahahaaaaa!!! Tatatoothey
Always love when Adams visits the Smithsonian , great info . It would seem that people who collect figures and things with different types of rubbers and plastics and keep them sealed in a box to retain value may be doing more harm then good although i would love to ask her this question , ventilation seems to be important ..
There is so much knowledge here about such a completely niche area. Amazing discussion
Adam the pen caps you noted are common to the military coats and flight jackets. They are off the shelf pen caps without a clip I’m note sure that the old stick pen caps were not used and when they switched I think part of the reason for them was in case the pen leaked but by the time of Apollo the fisher space pen was common to the astronauts gear these came over from DOD.
Yep! Though by the time Apollo flew, they were using both the pressure-feed pens (the "space pens") and fine-tipped felt point markers. The Russians mostly used pencils, but they didn't carry pencil sharpeners, which made the pencils less than useful after a while, lol. The reason for that was clear -- pencil shavings, especially carbon shavings from the "lead," could float behind instrument panels and compromise switches and electronics.
I love watching Adam gush about space engineering, and it's even better when you can tell how much the people he visits with care too :)
Does anyone have any recommendations for beginner learning for space engineering?
I’ve been waiting for this video from Adam especially about this suit
I can see him struggling with all his might not to grab it. This job is very tactile and having a feel for something is just as important as the look.
@Adam Savage’s Tested #adamsavage , I think I may have the "spacers" shown @12:30 or pen lid covers from my step fathers days at Lockheed/skunk works, the shape seen in shot seems very close to what we have here in our collection here.
It would be great if Adam could visit the David Clark company because I think that they (or maybe Air Lock inc their subsidiary) have an in-house spacesuit museum.
Oh god yes please. Would love to watch Adam geek out at DCC
And yep, since the David Clark Company made the Gemini suits and those early Apollo suits, they definitely made the one in the video. I mean, heck, about the only real difference between their Gemini and Apollo suits was that hard visor-ish thing they put onto the Apollo suits' helmets. 🙂
Adam is like that relative that visits and never leaves 🙂 Except that Adam is welcome.
So, I'm curious -- what is that other blue & red suit that we get a couple of glimpses of?
Adam should check out the British space moon suite which looks like something out of the destiny video game looks amazing but for obvious reasons it never really got the go ahead their are videos on UA-cam showing it off if you look for it
From Nylon suits of the past, to Moonikin of the present.. how far we advanced!
The Moonikin they used for Artemis I looks so cool... hope we can get a close up someday.
Awesome plane's wow Amazing thanks for sharing sir.
You notice Adam crossing his arms because he knows he has a natural want to touch it, and he's fighting every urge to do so fervently. XD
I think it helps that Adam actually has a Gemini suit (or a really good replica of one) that is nearly identical to the one in the video. That happened because ILC was having problems delivering a usable Apollo suit, so for the Block I flights, NASA decided to use a very slightly redesigned version of the Gemini suits made by the David Clark Company.
Lisa is awesome
I learned to fly at the airport where Frank Borman kept his planes. He flew quite aggressively among and between us newbs. He clearly had the skills to fly like that, but what an a-hole... Astronauts are almost all charismatic, cool people - Frank Borman is the clear exception in my mind.
Haha there’s an extended interview with him from a This American Life episode. He’s a pretty unyielding guy. Gave not shit one about the job.
Any time his hands get close to the material, I have anxiety issues... lol
Hey i was wondering if you could make a build of the frostmourne sword from the game world of warcraft. Seem as a cool idea for a future Project.
This being released on the same day as the JoJo Part 6 final batch of episodes can't be a coincidence considering the themes of gravity, time and the space shuttle being in like 3 episodes.
Its ashame you couldn't get Borman or one of the original engineers involved in making the suits to be in the video too
Problem is, they're all getting to be on the high side of 80...
Wonder where the helmet with the visor protector went🤔
Who made the suit, was it David Clark or ILC?
Have you done prince of persia dagger?
Is Adam wearing a Moonwatch for that video?
Hey Adam you should make heath ledger’s joker suit from the mob meeting please!
Adam is taking every advantage to “accidentally” get close to it and “inadvertently” brush up against it.
I didn't see anywhere where he touched the suit. The camera angles make it look closer in some cases, but I don't think he would be that careless. He knows the delicacy and importance of these pieces too well for that.
if i was rich that would be my snowmobile suit
Adam,
If you could go back in time & work on any movie, what would it be & what would your position be?
For those interested, the word zhoosh is from Polari.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari
Is there a video of the mannequins being made?!
I mean if you want a pose suggestion; make the moon man Dab.
But what's in the leg pockets????
Sorry but that is definitvely silver in color.
What happened to Jamie
Baba Booey Baba Booey Baba Booey
Adam do you sleep
The thing is that when he's awake , he's moving.
1ST!
Hey Star City Russia - someone get Adam a cosmonaut suit.
Neat
Why don’t they use inflatable dolls inside instead of hard form structures.
maybe they wanna store them in a vacuum or something idk