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- This video shows how to repair rust holes in the trunk lid using body solder. This is one way out of many to repair rust holes.
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I haven't done any lead work since the 80's. Glad to see you passing on that old but good tech Gill.
Desert Mike DIY thanks.
I have a couple of belt line pins holes. I can access back side totally to clean up the corrosion issue. This will work. Best solution yet. First time viewer to boot!
Thanks Eric Martinson, I’m sure it’ll turn out great!
Found this video searching for rust hole repair and liked it so much I had to subscribe. Thank You
Thanks for your subscription 😃
Outstanding.
I think you're a natural teacher.
I am definitely gonna add this method to my bag of tricks.
This video makes me confident that I can do it too.
Thanks Tee Jay! 🙂
Excellent video, I've never thought of using lead to repair holes. I'm going to try this myself. Thank you.
Thanks!
this man is doing gods work 👏🏽
Thank you!
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I need to repair some small screw holes and a few Mig Welding seams on a car I'm working on. Never used lead before and watched a few YT videos on the technique. Yours is the best one and was very helpful to me. The result you got here was amazing. I hope mine looks as good as yours. Thank you
Ford Fan Thank you for that. You most definitely can repair screw holes with this method and the weld seam as well. I suggest a good quality direct to metal epoxy primer over it. Thanks again!
Thank you Gill, I will use this method fixing all the pin holes on vintage Harley Davidson gas tank. Great video!
Paul Healey, it should workout just fine! Thanks
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Thanks a lot Gill. My 70s Challenger has holes someone drilled in and this repair is perfect. I have been grinding out ALL BONDO and going to bare metal in all the flawed and damaged areas.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great tutorial on leading, the time I tried I was obviously using too much heat as it looked like all you used was just enough to get a good fast melt on the lead before paddling it into the holes and flattening it. If I ever get the chance to do that again, I'll remember this!
Thank you!
Man, thank you!!! I have a few small holes in my trunk pan and I nearly had the whole thing replaced! Made my day and saved me a few hundred dollars.
Andres Vargas thanks for watching and commenting. 🙂
Great video! Helped me out a lot. I'm ot a body guy and needed a fix for a few tiny rust holes. Thanks!!!!!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
That is a very good repair. This is the first time I saw this type of work. Very impressive. Thank you for your video.
Jim thanks!
Glaze only goes on top of primer, not direct to metal. Body filler goes direct to metal for those that dont know. Thanks for the leading tutorial. Sweet video man.
I usually use a 3M number 801 two part professional glaze that bonds to: primer, metal, fiberglass, and aluminum. Thanks for the suggestion. Sorry about not including the glaze type in the video.
Awesome! Have exactly the same holes that I need filling. Most shops want to weld in a patch for a few hundred bucks. Glad I found this video. Thanks in advance.
JOHN PAUL JONES Thank you!
Excellent video. I have a motorcycle tank and I had a real hard time getting the solder to stick with flux and a torch but I think the tinning paste is really what's gonna help me here.
Yes, tinning is a necessity and it’ll most definitely stick after tinning. Thanks!
Fantastic. Confident and well paced instructions.
Thanks!
Solid job.. i mig my holes and like you suggested.. rust encapsulate the backside.. ive really grown fond of the body solder technique.. kind of a dying art.. i think u might have coaxed me into buying a kit!
Justin Shields thanks for watching and for the kind comments.
I only mig weld when joining two sheets together. This method will be utilized next job. Ill tack with mig and seem up with lead. realy cool vid fella! subbed.
Thank you.
enjoyed your video. To hte point and clear to understand. Giving it a go this wk-end with my 64 F100. Holes in the roof. Thank-you
I’m sure it’ll turn out great. Thanks for watching!
Dean Smith I’m sure it’ll turn out great. Thanks for watching!
Great tutorial man. Had a hole in my motorcycle gas tank and did this and it's been holding up just fine.
I’m glad it worked and appreciate the feedback! Someone had asked would this technique work on a gas tank hole and now I have a definitive answer, “yes it will “! Thank you!
@Gill Rod Shop no problem. Whoever asked you, just tell them to make sure they cleaned out any fuel/fume from the inside the tank, that way it doesn't explode
@@Covert_Op 👍🏾
Excellent job! Would love to try this method. Not sure I can get lot on Canada but will sure look into it! Old school was always the best fix! Thanks for sharing!!
Vicki k Gibson Thanks, I usually would not do a hole that large but I thought I'd give it a shot and it's held so far and I'm sure it'll work the same for you. Good luck on your project and stay tuned to my channel to see a weld in panel repair in the near future. Thanks much.
Got a bunch of rivet holes where the trim around short vinyl top was secured. Getting rid of vinyl so thinking about this to fill rivet holes. Great video. Thanks
Thanks for viewing!
thanks for making this video - i need to do this on my vanagon window. never done it before, but this video is a great 'how to' that gives me some confidence to give it a go!!
inorganic inorganic thank you for watching and let me know how it turns out!
Very well explained. I have the kit from eastwood, now I can give it a try. Thanks for the video.
Ken Sendelofski thanks for watching.
Thank you for the video.
I am restoring a 1970 Dodge Charger and the rear window area has lots of rust holes. I was planning on cutting out the rusty areas and patching in metal but this may be a better way. So often, even careful use of the MIG can result in burning through areas that are super thin. You start by trying to close up a tiny hole and end up making several larger holes that require more and more welding.
Gregory Kern I’m sure it’ll turn out fantastic! Thanks
Tig welder might be a good option for you
I have done body work in high-school. I am interested as I have my own restoration project. But I am not a body man. Its interesting to see the techniques and when I work with a shop I understand what they are doing. Thanks for the vid. Well done.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks Gill. I have a tricky job near the boot (trunk) of my 1993 Cavalier, and I had forgotten about body solder. You've made my day! Cheers, John.
thelonegroover Thank you and happy soldering.
Thanks Gill. Just been in the depths of my garage storage space and found a body solder kit I bought quite some years ago. The solder is lead based, but I guess the solder you're using in the video is non leaded as you're sanding it . is that correct? Cheers John.
thelonegroover I don't want to tell you wrong so I copied and pasted from Eastwood.com below.
Eastwood's Basic Body Solder Kit helps you complete small leading jobs with better adhesion, strength and durability than plastic fillers
Spreadable (plastic) range is 361-489 degreesF
Includes tools and accessories
30/70 lead-based body solder is slightly easier to work with than our lead-free solder, and provides better adhesion, strength and overall durability than plastic fillers. Includes 2 lbs. of solder for small solder jobs."
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Thanks for the info Gill. I appreciate it .
I have some nasty rust that's created holes and thinned out a fist sized area of my old Toyota's tailgate that I'll be attacking this week. Would LOVE to beef up the area and fix the holes without using body filler. Just got a new cylinder of C25 for my mig too (would love to solder but I can dial back the mig and use thin wire which I already have), so I'm happy I came across your video!
I love the old Toyota trucks! I hope it turns out spectacular!
Awesome job!! Thanks for teaching the steps!!
Thanks for watching and commenting
Good video Sir, watching from across the pond in Blighty.
Thanks 😊
Love it, got some pinhole rust in my trucks tail gate and will be trying this method
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice work on the rust holes
Thanks
Very professional!!! Looks great man. Thanks for the tip
Chris Cadle thanks for watching and commenting.
I have a 70 Camaro that was body worked and repainted I assume in the late 80s early 90s most all the filler shows cracks in it from age or deterioration.. The factory lead that connects the sail panel from the roof to the quarter is still perfect. Speaks highly of a repair like this...This cant be any worse for you health wise than all the chemicals in modern paints and primers just be cautious and use PPE.
Scott Coleman thanks.
Beautiful work!! I know what I'm going to do with some small areas now!!
RM Tbc Thank you.
Thank you for the tip. I’m gonna give that a try.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Gil you are an artist !!! Great work and thanks for sharing 🙏
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thanks for your straight-forward repair tip.
Tom Barto thanks for taking time to watch it.
Awesome video. Love learning from a master craftsman. Keep putting out these kinds of videos, and I bet your channel will blow up.
Thanks
Excellent... Exactly what I am after. Much appreciated
Pete Smith thank you.
Excellent video. Learned a great deal
W.T.C. Finest thanks
Now that's what I call a top repair 👍👍👍👍
spud train spotting thanks 😊
you make it look easy thanks.will have to try it on my roof panel.
Fat T it's definitely easier than welding that thin metal but just remember not to apply too much heat when applying the body solder and you'll do just fine. Thanks
Excellent video, about to fix some holes on my TR4a, well done !!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Brilliant and super repair for quality cars. Great video.
Thank you!
Nice work. Always wanted to try lead-loading. 👍
Thanks 😊
Thanks so much for this video, its to the point and easy to fallow. appreciated.
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Great video. Repair looks fantastic. I'm going to try using body solder, lead free of course.
Rob Jones thanks
Nice job Gill ! Thank you from salt belt rusty Massachusetts .
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I must learn to do this , I hate bondo or as we say in Australia bog ,
Thanks for the video,I will attempt on my project ,71 VW bug.
I’m sure it’ll work out great! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great Video...Just what I need...Thanks Gill
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting!
great demonstration
Thank you!
That is awesome work! Thats gona be my go to from now on, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Perfect!! Just what I was looking for. Thanks
Andy Ramz thank you! 🙂
Nice job, first time watching.
Thanks
Very good technique, good video!
Mr Joe Sanchez thank you!
I have a motorcycle gas tank that has some big holes where the mounting cup was tacked on and I think this will be my solution
Good Job Sir, you made it look easy.
Best lead vid I've seen.
rotorr22 thanks 🙂
This is an awesome video! Thanks for making and posting it! 👍😉
carny1865 thanks for watching! 🙂
Great to see the old method for filling holes on panels. That lead won't go anywhere, like you say - far better than fillers. We vsll that technique 'lead loading' in the UK. One question - can you use this method on holes in flatter panels ? I am just thinking applying heat to one area on a flatter panel may cause distortion of the metal ?
Chris Ward thanks for watching and commenting! You should be fine as long as you heat the area around it evenly. The heat isn’t so bad but uneven heating/cooling is what warps panels. I’ve had car bodies baked and dipped in acid to strip the old body lead, fillers, and paint from them and they turn the oven up to 800 degrees F. 🙂
Thanks, been a long while since I practiced. Need to redo window edging and roof gutters
HULKGQ Nissan Patrol thanks for watching.
Great video! Thanks, I will use what you showed.
jeff McCartney thanks.
Outstanding work brotha. You are a gift from God. Thank you so much. I have subscribed to your channel and hit my alerts.
Thanks for the great comments and subscribing!
Great video. Always good to have other options besides welding
Craig Green thanks
Excellent video thank you
Could this technique plug a 1.5” hole?
I’ve filled some pretty large ones but never one that size. It may work though! Thanks 😊
I have a pin hole issue near the bottom passenger side corner of my windshield on a Chevy pickup I’m fixing up. I don’t intend for a show quality truck just something I can drive and enjoy. I can’t access the back of the area. Would you still advise using this method if I can’t use rust inhibitor on the back side of the surface area I’m working on?
The window doglegs usually rust from the outside in but if it rusted from the inside out I would want to find the source of moisture and address that first. You should be able to use this method with success on pinholes in window frames. Thanks 😊
great work!
Thanks Eddie!
Well done! Great video thanks for sharing.
Guy thanks for watching.
My doctor won’t allow me to use a welder because I have a defibrillator. I want to farm out as little work as possible. My ‘69 Firebird could use this type of repair in the rear window channel. Thank you.
This type of repair should work well in that application as long as it is rust free and clean. I know that Firebird will be awesome once it is done! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice job. Thanks for posting
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Skillfully done; thank you
Thank you!
thank you good video.
Thank you!
If I have an antenna hole about an inch wide on my roof, can I use a scrap piece of metal and lead it in place before final finishing?
I’ve never tried it but it should work if the plug is larger than the hole and placed on the backside and lead on top. I have tacked welded a plug and then use lead body filler over it! Thanks!
Will this work in a situation where you need the top and underside of the hole to look good? I want to fill luggage rack holes on a TR6 decklid and the metal is visible on both sides. Thanks!
It should! You would have to file and sand the back side to make the solder even with the surface. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@gillrodshop Thanks!!
That repair looked great when you were done, I was thinking you could just primer and paint it now, but perhaps a little glaze never hurt for the hidden low spots
This was helpful. Thank you!
Daniel Atkinson thank you for taking time to watch.
Does lead and aluminum stick together?thank you.
Lead sticks to the tin but I’ve had problems tinning aluminum. The short answer is no, I haven’t been able to make it stick to aluminum. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video! Thanks very much 👍
markabaxter Thank you for taking time to watch it.
You had me at “window legs”, my man. I’ve been stressin about those
Nice way of doing it, but please tell how does the two different matals work when expanded/shrinked from heat/cold over time?
My first tought was why not just weld it?
Thanks
Frili Me I've welded a lot of patch panels but this is about not welding. Lead has been installed in millions of factory cars but not many people still use it anymore. As long as the temperature doesn't reach the melting point of the lead it should be okay. Thanks for the observation.
No need for backing plate? The lead won’t flow into the other side? I’m planning to use this on bottom of my car door it has small rust holes. Thank you
No need for a backing plate if the hole is small. This video that I’ve linked below shows a blind hole done on a T-top pillar and what the lead looks like from the backside once it’s done. You have to use the proper heat and not over heat it though. Thanks for watching and commenting!
ua-cam.com/video/ur-etZqrnXk/v-deo.html
@Gill Rod Shop perfect thank you so much, Eastwood has the smallest kit on back order until January but at least now I have a better alternative thank you!
Great video can't wait to try this out.
Erick Walton thanks for watching!
Were can we get this kit .. looks great thanks for the demonstration that really helps
Eastwood Tool co.
@@gillrodshop thank you .the soonest they'll have it in stock is march
@@ramirogonzalez9214 Cool, it’s worth the wait! 👍🏾
@@gillrodshop I'm working on a 61 ford f100 unibody I'll post some photos with progress thanks again for the video I'm subscribing to your channel
@@ramirogonzalez9214 thank you. I’ll subscribe to yours to keep up with your F100 project.
Good video bro!!
Thank you!
That is a good repair indeed
Thank you!
I'm repairing rust holes in a child's wagon. The wagon was sandblasted and epoxy primered. Do I have to sand or grind the epoxy off to bare metal to solder the holes?
Yes, you will have to take it back to bare metal and tin it before soldering. Being that the wagon is just a single panel without a sub panel behind it the repair work will be visible from the inside.
@@gillrodshop thank you for the quick reply. Much appreciated and great video!
Super helpful video! If I don't have access to the backside of the panel is their a different tinning method I can use which doesn't contain acid?
None that I know of.
do you have the link of items you use ?
www.eastwood.com/eastwood-basic-body-solder-kit-basic.html
Great video !
Thanks!
Nice video Gill you're awesome man
mohammad babu Thank you! 🙂
Well done...thanks for schooling.
Thanks for watching and commenting! 🙂
Great video. Can a repair done with the lead stick be chromed? I am looking for a way to patch a few holes in an 80's motorcycle muffler as they are no longer available for the restoration. Thank you!
VMX yes it can be chromed by a professional plating company.
Gill Rod Shop Gill I read that most shops can’t chrome over lead/tin, is that just BS?
VMX anything that is conducive can be chromed. Plastic and other poor conductors can be chromed also, but the process is different! I spoke with a chrome plater today and he said he can chrome over tin/lead filler. Send a picture of the area on the muffler that you're repairing and maybe I can offer some advice. Thanks
Tallow is rendered animal fat that has a higher flash point and doesn’t effect the ability of the lead to stick. Crisco is vegetable oil and will burn. The soldering paste is an acid based flux with fine lead in it. It gives a cleaning effect while leaving lead on the surface. I was shown how by a retired Chrysler body tech who did it on repairs for decades. Plastic body filler as we know it was introduce in the 50’s and was not widely accepted in the industry at first until guys who never wore respirators with a two step system that had a dust filter on top of an activate carbon filter that 3M has made so popular and cheap. Just buy filter packs, twist-on and keep going. When you smell paint thru your mask, it is time to shave or replace your filters.
Sanding lead is never done as this dust will attract the nervous system, just like lead-based house paint. The roof on cars and trucks were attached using this method at the seam after spot welding and by no means is it a “Structural” component to the vehicle. It is just a low temp metal filler that is shaped by temp control and wood paddles dipped in tallow to make them slide. Masters of this can do an entire sail-panel joint in 10 minutes and paint ready as well.
I would make sure any drain holes in the rocker are not plugged. They are on the bottom back side of rockers and next to door skins. The door outer belt molding with the fuzzy or felt will let moisture inside the door skin, along with humidity that condenses on cool nights after a muggy day. It forms droplets that run down to the door seam. Any vehicle that is rust free in the first 10+ years can and does need cavity wax (Yellow Stuff) sprayed inside on these internal seems. Use a tooth pick to make sure they are open after a day or so. It will help keep rust away for decades.
Certified Automotive ASE master tech since 1978, retired.
What city and town are you living in now? I’ve been looking for a knowledgeable person such as yourself to learn the ways the cars were manufactured!
@@gillrodshop I am in Omaha but learned how cars work on my own until I helped a guy build a shop behind his house. I apprenticed with him. After 28 years in a Chrysler dealer, he told me he learned more in 6 years in a speed shop.
I will never forget Carl. He has passed, but a skinny, patient man and straight shooter with me and customers!
Can small rust holes in a steel fire pit be repaired using this body solder method?
Robert Halseth yes but as soon as the pit gets hot enough to melt the lead it’ll fall out. Welding may be the better option in that case. Thanks for watching and commenting! 🙂
Great video - thanks
Thanks 😊
Thank you brother. Quick, simple, straight to the point. Hit the out the park,,, no “fouls”. Foul this under job complete. Or even under the “X” fouls, “I want to believe”
I’m clowning the accent just a lil’, only cause I grew up in Midwest, and have a lil’ twang from Indiana still living up north here in Minnesota,,, why I was watching your video.
One question. Could you use super clean, not contaminated, bullet lead?
My Harley-Davidson gas tank has several small dents in it, could they be filled using this solder and would it survive the heat of powder coating after the tank is repaired?
David MacGregor that is an excellent question. I'm not so sure that it would stand up to temps (+\-400degF) that high. I guess it would also depend on how long it's at that temp. I've had car bodies dipped in acid tanks but they bake them about 8 hours at about 800 degrees before they dip them and all the solder melts off the body at that temp and time period. I can try it if you want me to?
Eastwood has a led free body filler they sell. It’s applied the same way. It’s melting point is a lot higher, maybe 600 degrees. I just had some metal powder coated that I used the body filler on and the heat from the powder coating was not a problem.