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    We compared artillery on today's episode of Star Wars Factions Compared.
    The Galactic Empire, Rebel Alliance, Confederacy of Independent Systems and the Galactic Republic vie for the best Star Wars Legends artillery, as the AT-IC, SPHA, DDT and the MPTL-2a.
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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder  6 років тому +187

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    • @Niggins96
      @Niggins96 6 років тому

      EckhartsLadder I understand this is probably the worst place to put it but how do you think Greivous from legends would do against a space marines or a primarch as I think master chief was hardly a fair match for the good General

    • @draconisthewyvern3664
      @draconisthewyvern3664 6 років тому +2

      @EckhartsLadder your wrong and here is why: 1) your critic of the separatist artillery not being durable is invalid because it is artillery. the point of artillery is to NOT be durable; the point of artillery is to carry a long ranged gun that can use indirect fire methods lobbing high explosive shells and etc. in other words it is meant to give a giant middle finger to the enemy long before the enemy ever actually endangers the artillery and its support teams or the main units ahead of them.
      2) a SPG or self propelled gun should be mobile so it can deliver its punch much faster and be easier to move around
      3) the republic artillery is the ANTITHESIS of the point and being of what an artillery piece is (the one you picked for them anyways). first off it is direct fire; even early gun powder artillery was not direct fire only. this limits the actual punch it has as a artillery piece significantly don't get me wrong it is powerful but not as a artillery piece. it would be more accurate to call it a anti-orbital platform or heavy AA. EVEN THAN HOWEVER the republic "artillery" is not great at this role due to it being direct fire.
      4) for all of these reasons the republic artillery should be LAST no matter how powerful it was/is. it does not fit the role of artillery in any capacity. an the top two artillery pieces should be from the rebel alliance and the CIS with CIS being first.

    • @matthewfritz4629
      @matthewfritz4629 6 років тому

      I believe that the DDT is the better artillery mainly do to the fact the rounds guarantee kills. The weapon may have its draw back but, the Republic can't shield its entire army.
      Could the UNSC stop a Zerg invasion

    • @Phello123
      @Phello123 6 років тому

      Byss fleet vs earth home fleet
      Courasaunt fleet (with reinforcements)vs high charity
      Rothana battleship vs marathon cruiser
      Rothana battleship vs ccs battlecruiser

    • @Phello123
      @Phello123 6 років тому +1

      Empire vs covenant in a full out war

  • @ThatOneGuy46696
    @ThatOneGuy46696 6 років тому +1688

    *sees title*
    Oh yeah, the Republic's got this one in the bag.

    • @luscinius2933
      @luscinius2933 6 років тому +8

      SPMA turbolaser was as powerful as SPHA one, but smaller and lighter. It's a no brainer win for Empire.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 6 років тому +6

      Agreed

    • @thyreradim7885
      @thyreradim7885 6 років тому +4

      Mr. Hand, I SWEAR TO GOD THEY DON'T HAVE ECM'S WHERE DID YOU EVEN GET THAT SHIT.

    • @Sam_Hyde_Apologist
      @Sam_Hyde_Apologist 6 років тому +12

      Erndem Sterff Prederctions it's pretty dumb how the empire is almost always last on these lists, aren't they suppose to succeed the clones? How come they suck in every category? Stormtroopers are worse than rebel militia?! WTF

    • @Sam_Hyde_Apologist
      @Sam_Hyde_Apologist 6 років тому +2

      Luscinius nope unfortunately Lucas arts or whoever wants the empire to be the most incompetent military in star wars history

  • @pain6874
    @pain6874 4 роки тому +1001

    The thing about the clone wars was that the vehicles were actually designed for practicality. Unlike the original trilogy.

    • @nonyabuisness6642
      @nonyabuisness6642 4 роки тому +121

      Practicality in war. AT-ATs are good for pirates, criminals and rebels. Attaching an ion cannon just seems like a quick and affordable way to deal with real wars

    • @Buzzy_Bland
      @Buzzy_Bland 4 роки тому +27

      That Spectacular Landing Which is why we have a giant centipede with a laser cannon attached to it that can only fire directly.

    • @Myjacob99
      @Myjacob99 4 роки тому +36

      The Empires weaponry was made more for intimidation

    • @roninnder
      @roninnder 4 роки тому +43

      No vehicle with legs can be said to be a practical design. They are a complete farce, laughably bad. Anything else is better. Wheels? Better. Treads? Better. Repulsorlift? Waaaaay better. Just having one that sits still on the ground is still arguably better than how stupid it would be from an engineering perspective to make a vehicle with legs.

    • @CoinEaterBTBM
      @CoinEaterBTBM 4 роки тому +7

      3:32 so are we ignoring this? Or the... anything with legs?

  • @illusivetofu6963
    @illusivetofu6963 3 роки тому +118

    The DDT would have been incredibly effective against the Yuuzong Vong. Their all organic military would have been very susceptible to it

  • @wickiei4556
    @wickiei4556 6 років тому +686

    Honestly, the Grand Republic Army is one of the best armies in Star Wars. It has a wide variety of troops and vehicles, clear troop and commandstructure, specialized troops etc. But their navy... is utter bullshit to be honest. Their mainstayship is a carrier, they have no real dedicated battlecruiser, battleship, light frigates/corvettes etc. If they would have treated their navy like a real navy, they would have probably won the war.

    • @AnonYmous-dh2zt
      @AnonYmous-dh2zt 6 років тому +14

      Wickie LP it's the Grand Army of the Republic GAR

    • @king-mihai
      @king-mihai 6 років тому +55

      Wickie LP actualy they didnt need to change the venator,they could just upgrade it(sidegrade)to make it a battleship,make the hangar smaller an add wepons and more energy cells

    • @georgbergsten6050
      @georgbergsten6050 6 років тому +33

      they did win the war

    • @fightingtypegymleadermicha1539
      @fightingtypegymleadermicha1539 6 років тому +76

      the only won because the war was designed for them to win
      had the CIS not been manipulated it's ability to blockade and orbital strike troops easily due to navel superiority, as well as overwhelm republic forces on the ground after cutting off supplies and bombarding positions would have won the war

    • @georgbergsten6050
      @georgbergsten6050 6 років тому +3

      agreed

  • @TheT7770ify
    @TheT7770ify 6 років тому +813

    Aside from the clones star wars doesn't really do artillery that well. Most things seem to rely on just big guns on walkers rather then an actually useful bit of artillery

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 6 років тому +16

      Eckhart's get's some stuff wrong, along with never going into really great detail.

    • @billclark5055
      @billclark5055 6 років тому +10

      CIS has good artillery.

    • @grahamflorida5942
      @grahamflorida5942 5 років тому +5

      The T4Bs used by the Rebels weren't too terrible

    • @maximumeffort7096
      @maximumeffort7096 5 років тому +6

      The CIS's artillery is literally smaller than the republics, and does more damage.

    • @lorrainesebastian959
      @lorrainesebastian959 5 років тому +1

      Imperitus the CIS have ok artillery but compared to the republics artillery you just can't compare

  • @carrierooks3816
    @carrierooks3816 4 роки тому +94

    The ddt fires the defoiler that destroys organic beings.
    Everyone: lets hide behind\on top of a tree

    • @dapperfield595
      @dapperfield595 4 роки тому +7

      Tree: Am I a joke to you?

    • @stgjavveling9807
      @stgjavveling9807 4 роки тому +7

      I mean if it’s outside the range... does not matter does it?

  • @evanibarra8921
    @evanibarra8921 6 років тому +117

    Great video
    It's unfortunate that so many source books don't focus on strictly ground warfare in star wars and especially artillery so good job ecks

    • @evanibarra8921
      @evanibarra8921 6 років тому

      what i meant was fixed artillery not mobile fixed but you are right

  • @UGNAvalon
    @UGNAvalon 6 років тому +383

    “De-foil-er” - Its pronounced “de-fo-li-ate-er” :P

  • @willfuchs1
    @willfuchs1 6 років тому +278

    You have a great vibe and flow. Your content is digestible for individuals with a surface level understanding of the Star Wars Universe yet remains entertaining for those with a deeper knowledge base. I don't know if you've done this already but which faction has the best "spy" unit. I'm unsure how much information would be readily available but would be interesting nonetheless.

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  6 років тому +28

      Thanks for the compliment!

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 6 років тому +5

      So bothan spys, isb(? I think the imperial spy people?), not sure about cis, and maybe delta squad? Jedi? For republic

    • @rawhidelamp
      @rawhidelamp 6 років тому +3

      I can say your last name and correct me if im wrong. I believe it is "fucks"
      Please excuse the shit comment i 100% agree, Eckharts Ladder is awesome

    • @joshg1555
      @joshg1555 5 років тому +3

      The Rawhide nigga what

    • @lenkagamine4145
      @lenkagamine4145 4 роки тому +2

      @@mondaysinsanity8193 CIS would be commando droids. Bothan spies for rebels. Clone commandoes for republic, probably, though thats the one I'm most unsure about as they're a primarily combatative role. And imperial intelligence for empire.

  • @ggallqas7442
    @ggallqas7442 6 років тому +184

    I really love this series. It helps me learn a little more about the Star Wars universe. Great video ecks

  • @BrownFoxWarrior
    @BrownFoxWarrior 4 роки тому +47

    "Never will really be on the front lines."
    *looks back over years of Empire at War*
    Yeah...about that claim...

  • @Luring_Leon
    @Luring_Leon 3 роки тому +9

    What I love is how George L went about vehicles in the clone wars. “So yea the separatists will have 10 different capital ships with there own unique features. And the republic will have a smaller star destroyer and a mini version of that version

  • @Echo1608.
    @Echo1608. 6 років тому +42

    Wonderful video!
    Also in the 2003 Clone Wars series the SPHA was seen arcing its shots throughout many different episodes.

    • @CaptainFordo21
      @CaptainFordo21 6 років тому +1

      MysticHero nah it was great. We do see them arcing their shots. So yeah.

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 років тому +3

      That was shells, not beams.

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, they can be equipped with mass driver cannons that allow them to arc.

  • @brycesweeney6792
    @brycesweeney6792 6 років тому +18

    I feel as though you chose a terrible artillery for the Empire when a better option was available. I feel as though it'd be more fair if you used the Imperial artillery from Empire at War, considering how you used the Rebel artillery from Empire at War.

  • @XepherTim
    @XepherTim 6 років тому +99

    Excellent video as always! I will admit, my first thought for Republic artillery would actually be the AV-7 Antivehicle Cannon, which we see in the Clone Wars show at the Battle of Christophsis. It is a bit more of a traditional mortar-like piece, while your list seems to be using more varied, mobile artillery pieces.
    And as much as I love the SPHA-T, I'm not entirely sure it is capable of arcing it's shots, which of course be a significant downside to any artillery piece, as it would then require a direct line of sight to its target. Wookiepedia(my only source because I'm lazy) states as much. Also apparently the gun had limited charge, and would have to be replaced with a different gun after firing, I suppose that is there downside instead of reloading.
    Personally I think a better choice would have been the SPHA-C, a variant that instead fired concussion missiles, the downside of course being limited ammunition. Although it exists only in text-form in reference books, so might not work as well for the video.
    (derp, forgot you mentioned it in the video :p)
    And while the AT-IC is an interesting idea, I'm not sure it works quite as well in practice. One issues is that, simply judging by the one images we have to work off of, it seems as if the walker would have to face away from the battle/target, so that the Ion Cannon can fire at it, because the remaining body of the walker would get in the way of the cannon. This decreases the ability of the walker to defend itself from closer ranged attacks. Additionally, removing a large amount of the original volume of the walker significantly decreases its ability to be used for its original purpose, transportation, with most of the remaining space likely being needed for power plants due to the large power energy requirements of the Ion Cannon.
    Anyways, these are just my opinions, love your videos, keep up the great work!

    • @XepherTim
      @XepherTim 6 років тому +8

      Alright searched around a bit more. In the 2003 Clone Wars show, the (presumably) SPHA-Ts fire more traditional turbolaser style projectiles, with some definitely arcing. Although in the Attack of the Clones, the do seem to be more directed energy beam weapons, however the wiki does state they use a heavy turbolaser beam(although a turbolaser beam doesn't doesn't quite fit with our working knowledge of how turbolasers work? idk might just be me). Although the 2003 show isn't canon, this could just be explained as different variations of the base SPHA, which as you mentioned has many canon variations anyways.

    • @sorrrbet4923
      @sorrrbet4923 6 років тому +6

      I personally would've gone with the AV-7 instead of the SPHA. It's mroe versatile and we see its destructive power in the Clone Wars movie especially well.

    • @asetect292
      @asetect292 6 років тому +1

      XepherTim I

    • @jordanpowell2242
      @jordanpowell2242 6 років тому +3

      XepherTim the AT-7 can actually move it has tracks located on its legs is able to move but at a slower pace making it a prime target for faster droid vechicles such as hellfire and homing spider droids and can attacked by air units

    • @TankHunter678
      @TankHunter678 5 років тому +4

      I think the AT-IC as a platform could work, specifically if you swap out the direct fire ion cannon for a missile system, largely due to how the missile system could be used for either an AA role, or to augment its forward weaponry by firing missiles with thrusters to arc themselves down onto far off targets. One could also replace the ion cannon with a heavy point defense laser turret for helping deal with air targets. In essence while the transportation space is gone it can be made to function as a heavy escort walker. Especially due to that weakness to tow cables from fast speeders.

  • @user-gi4wg9ib8i
    @user-gi4wg9ib8i 6 років тому +17

    MPTL has an effective range of 120 km. That is actually stated on Wookieepedia. MRLS's generally have ridiculous ranges. Irl,they can shoot up to 200km

    • @endengineer2441
      @endengineer2441 4 роки тому

      MPTL-2a has a range of 20km not 120km.

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 роки тому +1

      @@endengineer2441 Well it says "more than 20 kilometers" technically. Eck seriously underestimated the firepower of those things too. Sure they don't look great in a game that tries to have balance, but remember that those are proton torpedos, which are anti-capital ship by nature.

    • @endengineer2441
      @endengineer2441 3 роки тому +1

      @@Noah-zz8uw WDYM it doesn't look good in game? I obliterated everything using them. XD

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 роки тому

      @@endengineer2441 lol they're still pretty good in game too. I remember one setting up and obliterating everything in it's way :)

  • @iandinkla5852
    @iandinkla5852 6 років тому +52

    Really great video idea! Even though I love the CIS military I certainly believe you got it right saying the republic won this one. A video on tanks would be cool

    • @bogustoast22none25
      @bogustoast22none25 6 років тому

      Why? So the Republic wins again with the AT-TE? Cause they probably will.

    • @fitzgerald297
      @fitzgerald297 6 років тому +1

      I agree. Love those tanks.

    • @iandinkla5852
      @iandinkla5852 6 років тому +1

      bogustoast22 none , m8 The AT-TE is no tank. They would get the TX-130 Saber class tank likely. I believe he already did some sort of video which used the AT-TE as the republic main and besides it is a walker

    • @iandinkla5852
      @iandinkla5852 6 років тому

      bogustoast22 none I mean I get what you are saying but Eckhart would likely choose the vehicle that best fits as a proper tank

    • @bogustoast22none25
      @bogustoast22none25 6 років тому +2

      Ian Dinkla understandable, but remember that the ATTE IS a tank, just a walker instead of threads or repulsor lift.
      Again, understandable if not used (cause it fits many rolls and it can get boring) it IS a tank itself.

  • @Comet5551
    @Comet5551 6 років тому +11

    For a vehicle vs episode: All Terrain Anti-Aircraft (AT-AA) vs Type-52 Anti-Aircraft Artillery (AA Wraith)
    For a factions compared episode: Which faction had the best repulsor lift tank

  • @togglefire3537
    @togglefire3537 6 років тому +44

    I think the AT-IC is a good base idea. If it was faster it would be good. But with the cannon if you could figure out a way to mount different weapons it could be effective. Love the video and the vehicle pick. Keep it up Eck!!

    • @AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion
      @AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion 6 років тому +1

      Toggle Fire There was the AT-LC which had a big Lasercannon on its back.

    • @togglefire3537
      @togglefire3537 6 років тому

      Wassermelonen Beschützer sweeeeeeeeeeet! Hahaha thats what i like to hear! They can get you coming and going with that lol

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 років тому

      It's a TOY! That was NEVER seen again!

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 6 років тому +1

      An IC version of the AT-AA would probably be super effective.

    • @togglefire3537
      @togglefire3537 6 років тому

      Chris sonofPear and your point is?

  • @bificommander7472
    @bificommander7472 6 років тому +115

    Realistically, if your artillery needs heavy armour protection, you're using it wrong. The rebel artillery, probably by virtue of coming from an RTS game that wants units to be balanced (at least until the Forces of corruption expansion came along), is the best actual artillery.
    That said, in most star wars media artillery, and long ranged weapons of any kind really, are being used wrong. So, go nuts with the expensive, hard to transport glorified heavy tanks masquerading as artillery.

    • @isaacfirst3112
      @isaacfirst3112 4 роки тому +4

      This is very true

    • @OK-yy6qz
      @OK-yy6qz 4 роки тому +3

      Honestly the Rebel artillery isn't that great it's not as powerful as the Republic artillery and doesn't do the Area Damage the CIS Artillery does (even though CIS artillery kind of reminds me of Mortars)

    • @adammullarkey4996
      @adammullarkey4996 4 роки тому +8

      A lot of real-world self-propelled guns are armoured. That doesn't mean they're not artillery.
      I'm not saying you're wrong - just that you aren't right. Artillery with armour just means that, if it is unfortunate enough to get into close quarters, it can survive long enough to either run away or defend itself. Besides which, you say that artillery which finds itself in close-quarters combat is being used wrong? Even artillery used perfectly can find itself outmanoeuvred occasionally, and when that happened, I'd rather have artillery that can take a hit.

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad 4 роки тому

      The rebel artillery fails in one major aspect (well, two, but we'll get their). It has short range. Short range artillery has it's uses, but it's just generally not a particularly good idea, a better one being to make your artillery in such a way it can fire at short range, it just isn't designed specifically for that purpose (the CIS artillery is the only example which could fit that role in this list). Now, if they designed it to be a sort of tank with a higher focus on firepower rather than breakthrough, it having short range would be fine, except it clearly isn't, because it lacks armor and shielding. The empire probably has the best artillery piece out of the lot, it's platform just isn't suited for artillery, and the republic seemingly decided that it would be a good idea to utilize a capital ship weapon for ground battles, which is overkilling the overkill.

    • @nonyabuisness6642
      @nonyabuisness6642 4 роки тому +3

      I mean, your probably thinking of real wars, but in Star Wars you have higher quality air support, better scanning, and self-guided rockets. A little armor can go a long way to protect critical equipment

  • @ravenks1sr15
    @ravenks1sr15 6 років тому +105

    Rip Muunilist
    SPHA-T pave the way for Total War 😉😉😉😉😉

    • @Perceval777
      @Perceval777 5 років тому +1

      @Gummibärchen mit honig Actually, he didn't destroy all of them. If you look closely, just before the Arc troopers attack the CIS command centre, the Banking Clan guys are monitoring the Republic's advance and they see SPHA-T's still firing after Durge's attack was stopped by Obi-Wan. So there were a few left.

  • @darthkenobi2399
    @darthkenobi2399 6 років тому +17

    Artillery? Never thought of that :P

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 6 років тому +86

    See's the DDT.
    Me: OH MY!

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 6 років тому +2

      the designer who appears in the same episode the DDT was first shown is voiced by George Tekei AKA mister Sulu.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 6 років тому +1

      Well, first DDT was the common name for an infamous pesticide that was used extensively in the 60's and 70's but later banned for its effects on the enviroment. The other thing, is that in the episode of the Clone Wars where this weapon was introduced, the Nemoidian who created it, is voiced by George Tekai

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 6 років тому +2

      HabitableMango2 well look up 3rd rock from the sun George Tekei oh my.

  • @thememeteam858
    @thememeteam858 4 роки тому +4

    Honestly I think the Defoliator is very effective when used as an anti-infantry weapon. It suffers against armor but when you need to flush enemies out of a forest or fortification

    • @badideagenerator2315
      @badideagenerator2315 2 роки тому +1

      Its also going to be cheaper than the other contenders, since they're literally just swapping out the gun on one of their mass-produced battle tanks.
      The manual loading is inconvenient, but its probably easier to manufacture than an automatic loading system.
      Not to mention it still has 2 repeating blaster cannons and 6 torpedo tubes to defend itself with.

  • @SignumInterriti
    @SignumInterriti 6 років тому +2

    As I remember Empire At War, it gave the empire a rather light, dedicated artillery walker with a canon that seemd to be a smaler version of the SPHAs main weapon. I found it to be quite practical if well supported and deplyoed in some numbers. Definitely less odd than an AT-AT with a huge ion gun on its back.

  • @mRNA-qb2zp
    @mRNA-qb2zp 6 років тому +33

    Yees finally I’ve been requesting this for WEEKS

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable3798 6 років тому +5

    I personally believe that the AT-IC may have more like the AT-TE in terms of where the artillery piece was specifically placed.
    However, those ‘Gorilla Walkers’ that were originally introduced in “Last Jedi, the” may have been the actual successor to the AT-IC.

  • @dietsalamander7173
    @dietsalamander7173 6 років тому +10

    Eck is my favorite Star Wars UA-camr

  • @edlippincott6205
    @edlippincott6205 6 років тому +11

    it bothers me that sometimes you pick extremely obscure quality vehicles to represent the empire and other times when they have a better option for something you pick the most common one such as the tie bomber in bombers compared. I don't care which philosophy you pick for for the sake of consistency pick one.

    • @cryamistellimek9184
      @cryamistellimek9184 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, plus for this video he picked 3 vehicles that aren’t artillery and are tanks pretending to be artillery. The only actually artillery piece on this list is the Rebellion’s MPTL which actually has a rang just over 20 kilometers which isn’t that short of a range at all given how Star Wars battles are usually fought.

    • @sasir2013
      @sasir2013 3 роки тому

      @@cryamistellimek9184 I would argue that the separatist's defoiler IS artillery, since it shoots at long range using ballistics and is meant to be behind the front lines
      Sure, it's mounted on a tank, but a machine gun in a tank is still a machine gun

    • @cryamistellimek9184
      @cryamistellimek9184 3 роки тому

      @@sasir2013 Maybe, but given the shells it fires it’s range as an artillery piece doesn’t seem to be considered, and most tanks would be able to outshoot even that. I’d argue it’s more a support vehicle than an artillery piece.

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 9 місяців тому

      @@cryamistellimek9184 Personally, the HAG would've been a better choice probably at first glance. However, I can't find much info on what either vehicle's respective effective range is with their main weapon. however both do function according what we consider artillery. So, either the HAG or DDT can freely call itself artillery asside the MRLS-style MPTL.... which would have an interesting counterpart in the Hailfire Droid at that.

  • @walkergargagliano142
    @walkergargagliano142 6 років тому +27

    best speeder (stap, barc, etc

  • @rolypoly1591
    @rolypoly1591 6 років тому +8

    Excellent as always Eck

  • @jasonmartinez911
    @jasonmartinez911 6 років тому +13

    Can't get enough of your vids 🙂🙂🙂

  • @red9mm
    @red9mm 6 років тому +1

    Can you imagine if Saw Guerera got ahold of some DDT’s? If it kills clones, it’d kill stormtroopers. Think of how brutal that’d be

  • @dino.antares
    @dino.antares 6 років тому +31

    Have you read every Legends comics and books? Ive read many but not all, some are soo rare!

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  6 років тому +11

      Not every, but a good percentage. A lot of the ones I'm missing are kids books or the old marvel comics or novels from the clone wars era

    • @dino.antares
      @dino.antares 6 років тому +1

      EckhartsLadder I've read some of the Legends comics of Clone wars. Republic issues 40 to 60, Grevious comics etc something like that in a collected edition called "Star Wars Omnibus: Clone Wars vol 1-3". You can find them on torrents

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 років тому +1

      I have a few novels left...

    • @jordanpowell2242
      @jordanpowell2242 6 років тому

      Shiladitya Talukder my fav is the crimson empire storyline

  • @AxelOwnz
    @AxelOwnz 6 років тому +9

    Been watching this series for a while. Gotta say i love it. Really makes my day better everytime i see a new one of these on my feed.

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 6 років тому +23

    The republic one looks cool. Your vids are amazing.

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +1

      Gerardo Reyes I agree Eckhart's Ladder has great videos 👍👍

  • @alexernst9448
    @alexernst9448 5 років тому +1

    For me the MPTL will always hold a place of terror in my heart. So many ground landings in EAW turned into massacres once those rockets started hitting the LZ.

  • @aidanlittell6826
    @aidanlittell6826 6 років тому +8

    Love your vids I’m a big clone wars fan myself

  • @canadious6933
    @canadious6933 6 років тому

    Besides the CIS and Republic artillery, all these were new to me. I didn't expect this kind of video either. I like it, I'll drop a like.

  • @dfdf5366
    @dfdf5366 6 років тому +7

    Sweet thank you for the new video😎

    • @dfdf5366
      @dfdf5366 6 років тому

      Just remove it then make a comment you are fine

  • @Subtlestrife
    @Subtlestrife 6 років тому +1

    I think it would be interesting if you did a whole video on the Grand Army of the Republic's various artillery pieces. It would be interesting to see what you think of each one and how you might rank them against each other.

  • @jpawlus33458
    @jpawlus33458 5 років тому +11

    Me: “sees DDT”
    Man that probably would’ve been so helpful during the Vong war 😑

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 3 роки тому +1

      Just amp up the power of the special warheads and watch as a single shell burns a Worldship.

  • @johnnyjor562
    @johnnyjor562 6 років тому +8

    i love your videos and i would like for you to continue so thank you

  • @carrosivejones1969
    @carrosivejones1969 5 років тому +6

    Something tells me the DDT might be extremely effective against the yuzang vong

  • @Dallows65
    @Dallows65 6 років тому +1

    De-Foliator. As in it destroys Foliage (As well as all organic matter). Fo-lee-ate-or.
    Good video!

  • @thejaxter6993
    @thejaxter6993 5 років тому +3

    My first thought of the AT-IT:
    This was just to sell toys, right

  • @Arthurschkil
    @Arthurschkil 5 років тому +1

    Those rebbel Artillerie has given me so much trouble in
    Empire at war.

  • @sashali6666
    @sashali6666 4 роки тому +5

    Artillery: Imperials pull out a Death Star

  • @dasirrlicht5415
    @dasirrlicht5415 6 років тому +2

    I like the MPTL, it is most relateable to modern artilery and is very effective in its role, Area Denial. Spotters are additional part of the package, makein this the only vehicle on the list that can actually work alone. It is defenceless, trough...
    The AT-IC not the most usefull weapon, since it is basicly a regular Arty stapped on a AT-AT. It does not benefit from its armour, since most of it is removd, it does not benifit from its hight, since it fires a arc, anyways... A very 'special' design.
    The DDT, while being only experimental, is the propably most usefull out of the batch. Its ammonition is able to destroy enemy forces while keeping the vaulble gear intact. It also got the biggest radius and since it is mountet on a modified AAT, it keeps some of the arms it had.
    SPHA... It is to big, it requires special craft to even reach its destination, its abilety to hit targets in the sweetspot betwen the pointdefence and the Artys reach is nearly nonexistent, because any arc this thing would be able to shot must be increadybly far... And it is so big, one could propably see it from space.
    Its followups, wich got downscaled for a reason, are far more reasonable weapons. The SPAH is the gustav railway gun all over again!

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 роки тому

      Yeah, the MPTL-2a also doesn't lack in firepower at all. Proton torpedos are literally designed to be effective against capital ships and large, heavily fortified targets. Spotter Droids are part of the package as you say. They increase the effective range, and greatly increase accuracy.

  • @26th_Primarch
    @26th_Primarch 6 років тому +3

    You can see spha units firing in an arc mode during the battle of muunilist in the clone wars microseries

  • @zipsbips5049
    @zipsbips5049 6 років тому +2

    Honestly any artillery that can shoot down the main part of CIS capital ship is the best in my book

    • @zipsbips5049
      @zipsbips5049 6 років тому

      MysticHero I mean artillery doesn’t have to be arc shot based. As long as it is a weapon made to be out of the reach of small arms fire and is use to bombard or fire from long distances is artillery

  • @Shayna3601
    @Shayna3601 4 роки тому +4

    I would have made the defibrillator in multi barreled launcher with a smaller blast radius but much faster firing rate and an automatic reloader

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 6 років тому +1

    The CIS also has in legends the two different types of HAG, the massive MTT-based plasma(Or mass driver it's not made clear) Howitzer model from Star Wars: Starfighter and the smaller more AAT-sized model from the Clone Wars video game (The driving focused one centered around the life-reaping Sith weapon)

  • @enderdrone6432
    @enderdrone6432 6 років тому +12

    When you said that the AT-IC is the worst for both worlds I started singing like Hannah Montana XD! 🎶The AT-IC is the WORST For both Worlds! So the Empire is bad, with their design Choice!🎶

  • @MonkeMane
    @MonkeMane 5 років тому

    Cant stop watching these comparison vids theyre so good

  • @GonzoIV
    @GonzoIV 6 років тому +3

    You should of used the Self-Propelled Medium Artillery for the empire!!!

  • @incognitones5604
    @incognitones5604 6 років тому +2

    Interesting would be to see a cost/benefit analysis... An artillery piece carrying a regiment of troops as close protection is, imo, wasting a regiment of troops. How many of the rebel vehicles could you get on one of the unwieldy republic pieces? How much manpower would be used for an equal amount of damage when close support is figured in (Only reasonable to assign some protective forces to the rebel pieces after all).

  • @marioman683
    @marioman683 6 років тому +8

    This helps me as a Star Wars nerd to improve my knowledge 🤓🤓🤓

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 5 років тому +1

    Interesting video, but personally, I think you should've used the SPMA-T for the Empire. And the Republic's SPHA is the clear winner, as an artillery unit. It's fantastic at what it does. It may not be the most mobile, but it's at least capable of moving on its own. It's essentially the mobile equivalent of a static, dedicated artillery piece. On top of that, the ability to swap out its weapon makes it incredibly versatile. Set up a shield generator, create a well defended perimeter (preferably just within the confines of the shield), and then position multiple SPHA units within the shield (equipped with a variety of weapons, including dedicated anti-aircraft weapons, as well as both direct-fire and indirect-fire artillery), and you have yourself an excellent fire support base.

  • @AS-vn8bc
    @AS-vn8bc 6 років тому +10

    thank you for making this
    understand artillery much better know you the best

  • @lordorion5776
    @lordorion5776 6 років тому +1

    EckhartsLadder i'd like to make an important distinction here "artillery" are immobile platforms all the vehicles your talking about are whats called Self Propelled Guns (SPGs) although SW might call them artillery there is a huge difference between the two

  • @Nick-tc1xy
    @Nick-tc1xy 6 років тому +17

    Star Wars EAW FOC is the best!

  • @COYM_1908
    @COYM_1908 6 років тому

    I found this channel 3 days ago and have watched around 20 videos already. Amazing channel. 😍

  • @tacowarj5305
    @tacowarj5305 6 років тому +3

    Hey ecks I love your Chanel and you are awesome!

  • @thatrandomsquirrel2924
    @thatrandomsquirrel2924 4 роки тому

    What your videos have taught me: The Grand Army Of The Republic was the best and will never be topped

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 6 років тому +3

    Thunderbolt Starfury from Babylon 5 vs the Sabre from Halo Reach.
    VF-1S Valkyrie variable fighter from SDF Macross (not Robotech) vs the Union Overflag from Gundam 00.
    Grimgerde from Gundam IBO vs the Talgeese from Gundam Wing.

  • @kitfisto9854
    @kitfisto9854 3 роки тому

    This man is a mad lad, we need to get him to 1 Million, because he god damn well deserves it.

  • @Louthanjen
    @Louthanjen 6 років тому +41

    keep the good work up

  • @user-iy7jo7bq4f
    @user-iy7jo7bq4f 6 років тому

    A versus idea: One Forerunner fleet vs the canon Rebels and the Galactic Empire with all their superweapons.

  • @tiefighter8401
    @tiefighter8401 6 років тому +30

    Why not the SPMA-T? for Empire

    • @robertserafini3995
      @robertserafini3995 6 років тому +8

      because he hates the empire

    • @bogustoast22none25
      @bogustoast22none25 6 років тому +9

      Guessing it's be too similar to the Republic one. And now that very effective.
      It would require a lockdown phase like the rebel artillery, but it's far slower and even worse armored.
      The AT-IC while unwieldily, can at least fire while moving or actually withstand blaster fire, increasing chances of survival in case it all goes to hell.

    • @thyreradim7885
      @thyreradim7885 6 років тому +3

      Because this is the most commonly used and well known, and eck loves that particular walker.

    • @playableelite5209
      @playableelite5209 6 років тому +2

      Because he will do anything to make the republic look good. Even use the worst artillery the empire has

    • @freeminer1000
      @freeminer1000 6 років тому +1

      The Emperor Maybe because the Republic actually has/had one of the best army’s?

  • @SgtEmissary
    @SgtEmissary 6 років тому

    I think the AT-IC makes sense and here's why: being that it is in the rear, it's protected as the AT-AT moves into position and then the AT-AT can face backwards once in position and open fire, if in immediate danger the walker can just move 'forwards' out of harm's way (albeit, slowly but surely). If you've ever heard of the 'Archer' tank destroyer that was designed in WWII by the British, it has that same design philosophy.
    Being such a large gun and well, being a artillery piece, the walker itself wouldn't be too close to the front-lines... so... with how it's designed it could escape much easier if fired upon.

  • @InevitableVitare
    @InevitableVitare 6 років тому +3

    Is that the Rebel Missile thing from Empire At War? God those things were the worst. They were just awful to fight against. The AI was a monster at using them.

    • @Lerpustin
      @Lerpustin 6 років тому

      InevitableVitare was fun to see them while u only have infantry

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 років тому

      There was an older version of it in Force Commander, a prior game.

    • @d-man9921
      @d-man9921 6 років тому

      InevitableVitare
      I threw all the civilians and stormtroopers at the but none of them reached their minimum range. Otherwise I used speeder bikes and planted bombs directly near them.
      Also the AI doesn't have fog of war and that's why it can use them so good.

  • @Milk-zn4yc
    @Milk-zn4yc 6 років тому

    Thank god you did this video although with the cis and republic you didint even mention the most artillery like vehicles the av7 or j1, it was still a good video and you did great with what little star wars gave you to work with in the ways of artillery i love artillery in general and the idea of completely destroying armies without losing a single man makes artillery one of if not the most important aspect of any military in my opinion.

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 6 років тому +4

    X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (the Legends version)

    • @user-gi4wg9ib8i
      @user-gi4wg9ib8i 6 років тому

      Jacob Robert IMHO, twintail would win. Its just too heavy and the technology gap is way too large

    • @michaelbracho3956
      @michaelbracho3956 6 років тому

      Great idea but is it a tie defender elite or standard

    • @lightspeedvictory
      @lightspeedvictory 6 років тому

      Michael Bracho as I said, this is the ORIGINAL Tie Defender from Legends, armed with 4 laser cannons, 2 ion cannons, ordnance launchers, and tractor beams. Not the shitty Disney remake. LONG LIVE STAR WARS LEGENDS!!!!!!!!!

    • @michaelbracho3956
      @michaelbracho3956 6 років тому

      Hell fucking yes fuck Disney

  • @kevinnorwood8782
    @kevinnorwood8782 5 років тому

    For the SPHA, I prefer to call it the "Mobile Assault Cannon". That's what it constantly gets called in most of the Star Wars video games I've played.

  • @alexmauney9705
    @alexmauney9705 6 років тому +18

    How is the MPTL so low? It obliterates anything it gets sight on in EaW.

    • @user-gi4wg9ib8i
      @user-gi4wg9ib8i 6 років тому +8

      Alex Mauney it actually has a range of 120 km. And it fires guided munitions,which is pretty rad by MRLS standarts. I wouldn't be surprised if it could fire specialised ammo like ATGM's or AA rockets,or it could hit multiple targets in the same volley

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 6 років тому +6

      Well, that's a bit surprising, because in this list MPTL is most realistic - artillery need spotters, communications and change positions after few volleys to avoid destruction due to enemy response. Others are just bigger guns on standard chassis (Defoliator an AT-IC) or self propelled fortress (SPHA)

    • @user-gi4wg9ib8i
      @user-gi4wg9ib8i 6 років тому

      Kuba Król Republic has AV7,which were used in the Clone wars toon. They would make much better artillery piece for this list. AI-IC is like a Surmtiger,superheavy assault gun used for attacking bunker lines and not lobbing enemy from afar

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 6 років тому

      Василий Данилов AT-IC is rather mashup of Archer (Valentine with 17 pounder AT gun) and so-called Flakbus with 88mm AA gun - mediocre in both roles (gun is IMO too powerful and cumbersome for shooting CAS and has too much limited firing arc for land targets). About superiority of AV-7 over SPHA I wrote in my other comment

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 6 років тому +3

      Nice to seem some more of the Rebel's heavy weaponry, even if it's rarer.

  • @asp2882
    @asp2882 6 років тому

    Having an SPHA is like having a slow moving AT truck that can mount MLRS's and Cannons depending on the mission. Mobility is not really critical for artillery in many (not all) situations so this is best.

  • @VadanManadis
    @VadanManadis 6 років тому +4

    MPTL i just Empire at War cancer, i'm still having nightmares....

  • @videosmith419
    @videosmith419 2 роки тому

    I think for how to fix the DDT is just to mount the weapon on something like an MTT and then use some of the internal space for a fast and automatic loading system. It solves the reload speed and flimsiness problem as the mtt is of course large and heavily armoured.

  • @Jack-ck4vi
    @Jack-ck4vi 6 років тому +3

    Venator vs secutor

  • @aidenwebner6042
    @aidenwebner6042 Рік тому

    I think the term you’re looking for is a “self propelled gun” a big gigantic howitzer/assault gun that can move on its own

  • @wifimania
    @wifimania 6 років тому +5

    Home one vs raddus

  • @Shisanon
    @Shisanon 5 років тому +1

    The CIS had a variation of the AAT simply called the HAG, which served as an indirect fire support/artillery role. I think it would preform better over all in a versatile role rather than what you suggested

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman 6 років тому +8

    Eckhart's Ladder 👍

  • @fenfen730
    @fenfen730 6 років тому

    While the ddt is light on the defense you also have to take into account the cost of the vehicle, it is small, easy to produce, and it also doesn’t take a lot of people to maintain it.

  • @johnpeterson6347
    @johnpeterson6347 6 років тому +34

    Can I get a yeet for the clones

    • @johnpeterson6347
      @johnpeterson6347 6 років тому +2

      EckhartsLadder is the best

    • @skaterboy3421
      @skaterboy3421 6 років тому

      John Peterson what about a watch out for those wrist rockets for the clones

    • @johnpeterson6347
      @johnpeterson6347 6 років тому

      That too. LMAO

    • @orion9026
      @orion9026 6 років тому +1

      This bitch empty, *Y E E T*

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 5 років тому

      Yeet needs to die. It is an affront to all users of real language.

  • @avgjoegaming8271
    @avgjoegaming8271 6 років тому

    Cis artillery is pretty cool since it eliminates any friendly fire. Plus the cannon could be mounted on something more secure since the one in clone wars is just a prototype

  • @cynemund8213
    @cynemund8213 6 років тому +4

    Why did you use the AT-IC and not the SPMA walker for the Empire?

  • @jonathanballmann7569
    @jonathanballmann7569 6 років тому

    I think they mounted the DDT on a standard tank simply because it was available. Like how Germany mounted anything new on a PzIV chassis. They had a lot of them. Since it was seen in a prototype stage, it was relatively undefemded. It would likely have support in battle

  • @raxos787
    @raxos787 6 років тому +9

    PEW PEW

  • @lumptydumpty6992
    @lumptydumpty6992 6 років тому

    About the Republic’s artillery not being able to arc its shots, the version in the game Starwars Galactic Battlegrounds: Clone Campaigns fired an arced blast. It was that model from episode 2 but with different munitions.

  • @Dalipsingh111111
    @Dalipsingh111111 6 років тому +4

    You could probably say that the Empires Galaxy Gun is artillery. That brings the first place to the Empire, right? RIGHT?

    • @thyreradim7885
      @thyreradim7885 6 років тому +1

      +Kane123a, well the halo rings from halo are artillary right? RIGHT? so they win.

    • @Dalipsingh111111
      @Dalipsingh111111 6 років тому

      What?! How dare you?! XD
      It destroys every intelligent life exept droids. So if you´re not the Borg or something, it will kill you too.^^

    • @justanerdiguess4910
      @justanerdiguess4910 6 років тому

      Kane123a Unless you're on a protected Forerunner installation.

  • @sprinkleman8103
    @sprinkleman8103 4 роки тому +1

    Harrison Ford: Wants Han Solo to die
    Star Wars: Oh no, he won’t die in the Original Trilogy.
    Harrison Ford: *The What Now Trilogy?*

  • @arctrooper2319
    @arctrooper2319 6 років тому +6

    I think Yuuzhan Vong versus Covanent would be really interesting, like if you aggree!

    • @ceoofwarcrimes4600
      @ceoofwarcrimes4600 6 років тому +1

      ARCTrooper23 I think the geonosians vs the drones from halo would be a cool matchup

    • @arctrooper2319
      @arctrooper2319 6 років тому +1

      That does seem pretty cool. They are pretty much the same thing, I'd like to see which would win.

    • @arctrooper2319
      @arctrooper2319 6 років тому +1

      But in both games you fight them in you're either a seven foot tall super soldier or a Specially trained Commando.

  • @Barterylane
    @Barterylane 5 років тому

    Great list, amazing analysis, and good place reasonings. This video deserves the likes.

  • @thatboyj3483
    @thatboyj3483 6 років тому +6

    Best tactics?

    • @CallanElliott
      @CallanElliott 6 років тому +2

      Jonathan Enriquez Given the listed weaknesses of the Rebel Alliance vehicle being limitations faced by most if not all artillery, I'm not sure Eck should be the one to judge tactics...

  • @sionics
    @sionics 6 років тому

    I love how he said the star fighter episode/#3 was the last on, and here we are.

  • @aurorathearcticwolf4243
    @aurorathearcticwolf4243 6 років тому +45

    SPHA-T is De wae

  • @axcenomega
    @axcenomega Місяць тому +1

    Before I start this video heres what I think it’ll be the CIS artillery specifically the regular cannon droid artillery that has been seen shooting down acclamators