@@justinsmith2958 Even the people at Can-Am don't often know what's coming out fwiw. I wrote alllllll of the OG Maverick X3 marketing materials going off of one front render and 3 concrete specs…the rest (photos/video) was filled in later and the launch was a surprise. Another item for consideration on the rapid progression over the years is simply: until you build a product and get it to people, as a company can you be 100% sure of the who/what/where/when/how/why? Of course not, nothing is 100%. At a launch many people will talk about "why didn't they _________?" Kinda depends…maybe it was not even a consideration! What is crucial is that when they give a demo to people like Jon, they actually listen to his long-term impressions and incorporate those improvements if possible. So instead of having Jon give you "cool secret info", it's more effective to tell him the things you want and hope he mentions it & in a few years it manifests itself. aka big tires, stronger parts, and so on. ;) ;) Whereas a DIYer or shop like Shock Therapy could slap on and incorporate upgrades to ONE Maverick X3, imagine engineering those changes into tens of thousands of X3s: improving one thing can lead to 4 other changes.
How nuts is it how quickly these things have progressed? 10 years ago the hottest UTV was a 60 hp RZR with tiny suspension. Now the standard is 200hp and 24” of travel and internal bypass shocks with on the fly active suspension. Can you imagine what these things will be like in another 10 years?
Much anticipated episode for me, thanks! Just installed your front and rear sway bar links on my 2022. As soon as I opened the package I was wowed by the quality and craftsmanship of these.
I just picked up a 2023 xrs turbo RR. Generally do the upgrades listed in the video (Front Limit straps, Spring kit and BSD kit) still apply as the top 3 upgrades.
According to BRP parts diagram the belt temp gauge is using "Air Temperature Sensor 515176366" Good news is that the secondary clutch is identical (per OEM part numbers) to prior years so only the primary needs to be upgraded for a P-Drive. Parts cost are just shy of $700 from Partzilla for just what needs to be swapped if you have a '21.
Thank you for looking that up. One thing to consider is the inner and outer clutch covers. The engineers mentioned we can’t swap out the P drive without those changed too. Not sure if it’s true. Just a thought.
@@shocktherapy4820 I checked those part numbers too. The inner is different for the hole provided for the aforementioned air temp sensor, seal from inner to outer cover is the same as well as the outer cover being the same number. Sound mat is the same from '21 and even the belt is the same part number which I was very surprised about.
After looking it over I still think it’s a good idea. But if an old chassis was good for 1500 miles before cracks appear then this one is at least good for 3000 miles.
The 2022 X RS manual states the offset is slightly different for front vs rear. But the wheel part numbers are the same. And I measured the offset on mine and they’re exactly the same.
@@ShockTherapyllc yep-100%. BTW, I recently put Shock Therapy springs on my XRS. We spent Thanksgiving week in Sand Hollow and the car RIPS! Awesome installation videos and order process. My springs arrived in Seattle just a day or two after I ordered them. You guys rock.
They bumped it to 200 because evo powersports found that the 21/22 RR models have a different (more advanced) ECU and make 200-205 crank in the real world. So... Marketing... ish
I just got my 2022 maverick XRS turbo rr smart shox. Was really curious about that belt temp guage being infrared or not, cause I road it all day first day out and it never went above 90 😳 was taking it easy on it, but on my OG I'd be up pushing 200's in a heart beat if i didnt watch it. So I was assuming this one was only ambient because it's suspiciously to low.
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe Mr. Smith implied that he believes the Turbo R is going to be slow i.e. “I don’t mess around with the slow stuff! Half joking or not that was a slam on the Turbo R! Maybe Mr. Smith should be reminded what vehicle set the pole position and was leading the race for the first 4 laps of the Mint 400!!!! I will help it was a Turbo R!
Thank you for pointing that out. I will clarify. In stock form the Turbo R and Pro R are the heaviest UTV on the market. Power to weight says they will be the slowest of the UTVs on the market in a drag race. Between the two of them, the turbo R is slower than the pro R. This is all I was pointing out. That being said, once you build all UTVs into a race car with added weight and safety items, most race ready UTVs overall weight will be up to 2200 lbs. The power to weight difference becomes even. Also remember that most race cars in the pro turbo class make 250-300hp. This negates the weight as well. So, in stock form I feel that the Turbo R is slow. In race car form it is right there with the rest.
Ran our 22 max xrs in little sahara on 34 in XT Warriors with 4 full sized adults carving dunes running it hard, mid 70s outside, highest belt temp was 115. Is this ambient temp? Or laser focused temp straight on the belt? If it is true belt temp then color me impressed!
So in the market for x3 however thought I'd ask the suspension pros a question. Most people On UA-cam make videos trail riding the x3 all you hear is speaks and rattling. Is this just maintenance of foes can am just rattle. LOL or is the same all other machines you see?
Most machines rattle and squeak a thousand miles in if left alone. In my opinion it is prep and maintenance that fix it. I have an X3 pre runner with over 13,000 miles on it. Now it’s on its second trans and third engine of course, (keep in mind I drive it really hard) but with a fresh prep it’s tight and quiet every time.
Thanks just wanted some real life info ypu guys are best and figured you've seen everything.. thanks for the real world information.. keep killing it shock therapy!!!
For doing this for a living that guy doesn’t really know much about the new X.3 in previous models. XRS always come with bead locks and the the same size wheel, front and back.
More sidewall flex, sidewall and tire pressure is the first stage of your suspension. Secondly, a 12” rock or hole looks different to a 32” tire than it does a 30” tire.
Thanks for having me on the show!
Any time, but if you don't start giving us some cool secret info from Can Am we are going to have to pull your card! LOL
@@justinsmith2958 Even the people at Can-Am don't often know what's coming out fwiw. I wrote alllllll of the OG Maverick X3 marketing materials going off of one front render and 3 concrete specs…the rest (photos/video) was filled in later and the launch was a surprise.
Another item for consideration on the rapid progression over the years is simply: until you build a product and get it to people, as a company can you be 100% sure of the who/what/where/when/how/why? Of course not, nothing is 100%. At a launch many people will talk about "why didn't they _________?" Kinda depends…maybe it was not even a consideration!
What is crucial is that when they give a demo to people like Jon, they actually listen to his long-term impressions and incorporate those improvements if possible. So instead of having Jon give you "cool secret info", it's more effective to tell him the things you want and hope he mentions it & in a few years it manifests itself. aka big tires, stronger parts, and so on. ;) ;)
Whereas a DIYer or shop like Shock Therapy could slap on and incorporate upgrades to ONE Maverick X3, imagine engineering those changes into tens of thousands of X3s: improving one thing can lead to 4 other changes.
@@banovsky Well put. Thank you for all of that information.
How nuts is it how quickly these things have progressed? 10 years ago the hottest UTV was a 60 hp RZR with tiny suspension. Now the standard is 200hp and 24” of travel and internal bypass shocks with on the fly active suspension. Can you imagine what these things will be like in another 10 years?
Right?
Electric
@@jonbrown6027 bingo. And people will kick and scream but the tech will be undeniable.
@@PumpUptheJam81 oh yeah can’t wait to push my car all the way to the trailer after I run out of battery in the middle of no where in the woods😂
In 10 years they will be all electric, LOL!!!
Much anticipated episode for me, thanks! Just installed your front and rear sway bar links on my 2022. As soon as I opened the package I was wowed by the quality and craftsmanship of these.
I ran my 22 X3 RC down in Glamis North 2 weeks ago. Was bombing down the washes and never saw belt temp get over 107
Thank you for the video fellas
Still waiting on my max to arrive, been on order since November
I just picked up a 2023 xrs turbo RR. Generally do the upgrades listed in the video (Front Limit straps, Spring kit and BSD kit) still apply as the top 3 upgrades.
Yes. Just add shock internals with bypass tubes as your number 4 option
According to BRP parts diagram the belt temp gauge is using "Air Temperature Sensor 515176366" Good news is that the secondary clutch is identical (per OEM part numbers) to prior years so only the primary needs to be upgraded for a P-Drive. Parts cost are just shy of $700 from Partzilla for just what needs to be swapped if you have a '21.
Thank you for looking that up. One thing to consider is the inner and outer clutch covers. The engineers mentioned we can’t swap out the P drive without those changed too. Not sure if it’s true. Just a thought.
@@shocktherapy4820 I checked those part numbers too. The inner is different for the hole provided for the aforementioned air temp sensor, seal from inner to outer cover is the same as well as the outer cover being the same number. Sound mat is the same from '21 and even the belt is the same part number which I was very surprised about.
@@Aspenoffroad excellent info. Thank you again for checking on those.
@@shocktherapy4820 You guys make some great, technically accurate, & reliable support videos. You're very welcome.
Just say it guys, Can am finally fixed alot of the chassis screw ups that 1000 has had since inception, QUIT BEATING AROUND THE BUSH...
The parts catalog describe it like air temp sensor.and by the looks is a ambient temp sensor.
I wish they would double shear the front end. You shouldn't have to tear your car apart to fix cheap materials on cars that cost over $30k
Hi, does the 2022 x3 need a gusset kit, not racing just out having fun.
Thanks for the great videos, you guys are my go to for information.
After looking it over I still think it’s a good idea. But if an old chassis was good for 1500 miles before cracks appear then this one is at least good for 3000 miles.
Is it this man's 1st time on camera.
You tried to hint to him about a question and he just doesn't have a clue.
The 2022 X RS manual states the offset is slightly different for front vs rear. But the wheel part numbers are the same. And I measured the offset on mine and they’re exactly the same.
Manual is wrong. Sane wheels.
@@ShockTherapyllc yep-100%. BTW, I recently put Shock Therapy springs on my XRS. We spent Thanksgiving week in Sand Hollow and the car RIPS! Awesome installation videos and order process. My springs arrived in Seattle just a day or two after I ordered them. You guys rock.
@@s2pointohhell ya man. Love hearing that v thank you. 👍🏼
Just put a razorback belt temp gauge on and see the temp difference. Also where is the factory one located.
They bumped it to 200 because evo powersports found that the 21/22 RR models have a different (more advanced) ECU and make 200-205 crank in the real world.
So... Marketing... ish
The rims sizes are the same size all around the buggy on earlier years as well and rc's didn't come with 32's on earlier models....
good job guys
Is the mud version an the rc geared lower i know everyone use to say no but satv is saying the mud version is
From another can an dealer video explaining differences, stated all mavs share same gearing, axles, etc.
I own a 2017 can am xrs 2 seater and I use 35 10.50 15 bfg kr2 racing only since new no problems whatsoever car has 20500 miles
i own 22 maverick x3 rs, good lessons to learn thank you for doing this
can i get one of your T shirt? Please
Will the '22 rear knuckle fit a '21 car? Potential sweet upgrade without having to go to a billet piece like ZRP?
Yes. Bolt on
My transmission broke, and brp told me to kick rocks.
I just got my 2022 maverick XRS turbo rr smart shox. Was really curious about that belt temp guage being infrared or not, cause I road it all day first day out and it never went above 90 😳 was taking it easy on it, but on my OG I'd be up pushing 200's in a heart beat if i didnt watch it.
So I was assuming this one was only ambient because it's suspiciously to low.
Yea, it's useless
I have 2021 that comes with 30” tires but if I want 32s do I need to do anything with my clutch? Does 2022 model need the Gusset kit?
Nope. Run it
We haven’t seen any issues doing that.
Buddy runs 33s on his 21 Max with no issues
Are there any differences in the secondary clutch set up with the p drive
No. Secondary is the same.
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe Mr. Smith implied that he believes the Turbo R is going to be slow i.e. “I don’t mess around with the slow stuff! Half joking or not that was a slam on the Turbo R! Maybe Mr. Smith should be reminded what vehicle set the pole position and was leading the race for the first 4 laps of the Mint 400!!!! I will help it was a Turbo R!
Thank you for pointing that out. I will clarify. In stock form the Turbo R and Pro R are the heaviest UTV on the market. Power to weight says they will be the slowest of the UTVs on the market in a drag race. Between the two of them, the turbo R is slower than the pro R. This is all I was pointing out. That being said, once you build all UTVs into a race car with added weight and safety items, most race ready UTVs overall weight will be up to 2200 lbs. The power to weight difference becomes even. Also remember that most race cars in the pro turbo class make 250-300hp. This negates the weight as well. So, in stock form I feel that the Turbo R is slow. In race car form it is right there with the rest.
@@justinsmith2958 Gracious response. The fastest X3 is the rented X3.
Really. You could have used my unit 4 months ago.. have a 2022 max x3 rr smart shocks.
Ran our 22 max xrs in little sahara on 34 in XT Warriors with 4 full sized adults carving dunes running it hard, mid 70s outside, highest belt temp was 115. Is this ambient temp? Or laser focused temp straight on the belt? If it is true belt temp then color me impressed!
We believe it is an air temp sensor in the clutch area.
@@shocktherapy4820 If that's the case, what's the temp we should be concerned about - to allow it to cool down from?
I just got a x3 2022, we won't be running it too hard, do we need the front gusset kit?
I would.
have you guys done any testing on the cf Moto brand of utvs and sxs ?
No sir
Did North Carolina win yet?😎
Can am needs to make sure poolaris doesnt rip the pdrive off like other tech they stolen for canam
The cage is "More Robust"...
🏆🏆🏆👍🇺🇲🙏
Thank you for sharing
So in the market for x3 however thought I'd ask the suspension pros a question. Most people On UA-cam make videos trail riding the x3 all you hear is speaks and rattling. Is this just maintenance of foes can am just rattle.
LOL or is the same all other machines you see?
Most machines rattle and squeak a thousand miles in if left alone. In my opinion it is prep and maintenance that fix it. I have an X3 pre runner with over 13,000 miles on it. Now it’s on its second trans and third engine of course, (keep in mind I drive it really hard) but with a fresh prep it’s tight and quiet every time.
Thanks just wanted some real life info ypu guys are best and figured you've seen everything.. thanks for the real world information.. keep killing it shock therapy!!!
For doing this for a living that guy doesn’t really know much about the new X.3 in previous models. XRS always come with bead locks and the the same size wheel, front and back.
2021 X3 XRS has smaller tires in the front. Definitely different front to rear.
Saad
Why do you need 32 inch tires? Seem idiots think the more money you spend the cooler you are. SMF. Big ass heavy tires are for stupid people
I know right? I put 26" tires on my 2020 rr. Genius
More sidewall flex, sidewall and tire pressure is the first stage of your suspension. Secondly, a 12” rock or hole looks different to a 32” tire than it does a 30” tire.