The Weird World of Sonic Heroes’ Development

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Hey guys! Hope you all enjoyed the concept art and development of Sonic Heroes. It had such a strange and interesting set of concept art and development cycle! Heroes is a blast to play and seeing the what could have beens is insane to me! Anyways thanks for hopping into the weird world of Sonic Heroes concept art and development :D
    Thanks for watching and if you have any suggestions or thoughts about the video let me know in the comments!
    Want to give a HUGE shoutout to Codelack for making this GORGEOUS thumbnail! She is an incredibly talented artist and make sure to go show her some support and check her art out! Thank you so much Codelack :DD ( / codelack.art )
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    Sources:
    Sonic Heroes Concept Art - sonicfandom.com
    (sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_H...)
    Sonic Heroes Development - sonicretro.org
    (info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Hero...)
    Sonic Heroes Interview May 2003 - sonichq.net
    (sonichq.net/article/news/soni...)
    Sonic and Renderware- ign.com
    (www.ign.com/articles/2003/05/...)
    Sonic Heroes Xbox Interview - xbox.com
    (web.archive.org/web/200710281...)
    Where Sonic Went Wrong - gameinformer.com
    (www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...)
    Iizuka Interview - sost.emulationzone.org
    (sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_h...)
    Sonic Heroes Development Intro Movie - Saestrol
    ( • Sonic Heroes - Intro M... )
    Sonic Twitter Early Concept Art - twitter.com
    ( / 1328776200936833024 )
    Shiro Maekawa discussing cut playable teams - twitter.com
    ( SonicJPNews/statu...)
    Takashi Iizuka EGM Interview - sonicretro.org
    (info.sonicretro.org/Takashi_Ii...)
    Detective Sonic by u/SpammingKills - reddit.com
    ( / detective_sonic )
    Assembler Games Archive - assemblergames.org/
    (assemblergames.org/)
    Obscure Gamers
    (www.obscuregamers.com/)
    Introduction - 0:00
    Sonic Heroes Development Groundwork - 1:04
    Storyboard Concepts - 4:00
    Prototype Mechanics and Box Art Designs- 9:35
    Stage Concept Art - 11:45
    Prototype Renders - 22:01
    Miscellaneous Prototype Images - 22:40
    Profile Picture/Outro done by Jonni Salazar, check him and his gorgeous art out on IG: / jonni_salazar
    Outro Music: Heroes Ring Race (From Sonic Heroes)
    #SonicTheHedgehog #Sonic #SonicHeroes #SonicAdventure2 #Sonic30th #SA1 #SonicAdventureDX #SonicAdventure #SA2 #SonicColors #SonicOrigins #SonicColorsUltimate
    Profile Picture done by Novika ( / imarusama )
    Outro/Sub Button done by Jonni Salazar, check out his gorgeous work on IG: ( / jonni_salazar )
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  • @natty6856
    @natty6856 2 роки тому +703

    i once said "sonic herpes" as a kid and thought i was the king of comedy

    • @RyanSonic
      @RyanSonic 2 роки тому +107

      And as you grew older, you became more aware of the comedic genius that statement was filled with. 😌

    • @Eichro
      @Eichro 2 роки тому +58

      you were ahead of your time

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +131

      they hated him because he spoke the truth. a prophet before his time.

    • @fintendo_nan68
      @fintendo_nan68 2 роки тому +43

      i once called myself "sonic but as a human" when i was a kid and thought that woman would fall into my feet

    • @somemadnessfan4763
      @somemadnessfan4763 2 роки тому +20

      you are tho

  • @apathy2454
    @apathy2454 2 роки тому +301

    Sonic heroes is by far one of the most creative sonic games

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +44

      Oh for sure! The levels in this are gorgeous and scream creativity. Thanks for watching!!

    • @inaminute1826
      @inaminute1826 2 роки тому +9

      Yes definitely inspired me as an creative artist 🥺

    • @Euro.Patriot
      @Euro.Patriot 2 роки тому +3

      @Eduardo Ormond You spend most of the time as the speed character and only use the other two when you have to.

    • @redhood7778
      @redhood7778 2 роки тому +3

      Still the best Sonic game

    • @Euro.Patriot
      @Euro.Patriot 2 роки тому +2

      @@redhood7778 Far from it, the gameplay is broken. Speed is way to uncontrollable, homing doesn't always work, the casino parts are fucking nightmares to finish, you have to do the same levels 8 times each with exceptions of the bosses and getting A ranks means hell on some levels like Team Dark's second mission for Ocean Palace.
      Sonic Generations was much better.
      Heroes was decent for casuals but if you dared to even think about clocking it you'd be stuck there for months and I'm saying that from experience.
      I spent almost every night for months on end in 2020 trying to A rank atleast one level per night. When I finally made it I got to Final Fortress on the super hard mode I don't think I've bothered to finish it.
      Shadow The Hedgehog was much better than Heroes and was fron the same era, talk about oMg GuNs all you want but the actual game was pretty fun to play, still play 2 player mode with my 12 year old sister sometimes.
      With Shadow you also had to do every mission 3 times an every ending 2 times and it is still much better for MOST levels.

  • @aliakbar-sth
    @aliakbar-sth 2 роки тому +89

    - Only 2 Level Designers
    - Still Gazilion Times better than 🅱️orces

    • @dinohermann1887
      @dinohermann1887 2 роки тому +16

      Forces only had 3 level designers, 1 worked already on Lost World, and the other 2 never worked on a single Sonic title before.

    • @NitroSanitar
      @NitroSanitar Рік тому +1

      100% Based

  • @brekfex_9332
    @brekfex_9332 2 роки тому +127

    Sa2 might be my favorite but heroes nostalgic soundtrack and atmosphere is just amazing

    • @tdenzel101
      @tdenzel101 2 роки тому +1

      Thank you someone who recognize heroes had a fire soundtrack

  • @hugoflores1093
    @hugoflores1093 2 роки тому +86

    Man Sonic Concept Art is the coolest thing ever, i love this phantasy but realistic style for the series, Heroes to me really is a great mix of the Adventure games with the Classics structure

  • @ultrairrelevantnobody1862
    @ultrairrelevantnobody1862 2 роки тому +127

    My first ever Sonic game. Still fun to play, though it can be frustrating.

    • @T.T_CenrryTH
      @T.T_CenrryTH 2 роки тому +9

      I think it's ok, i just hate having to play perfectly to actually go to the special stages

    • @junglejuicejuno
      @junglejuicejuno 2 роки тому +3

      Did you try holding b on the rails?

    • @alternatenican
      @alternatenican 2 роки тому +3

      @@junglejuicejuno he's maybe talking about the level design. ngl i was also frustrated by the final level.

    • @subjectnivleis7572
      @subjectnivleis7572 2 роки тому +5

      The emerald stages were pure hell rest of the game was fun

    • @Starpotion
      @Starpotion 2 роки тому +5

      The difficulty shoots up way too fast, but the music slaps harder and harder

  • @justcallmekai1554
    @justcallmekai1554 2 роки тому +49

    12:49 "Rock Shaped Whale"
    Had to double take that one lol.

    • @RosheenQuynh
      @RosheenQuynh 2 роки тому +2

      Right?

    • @maoraharon21
      @maoraharon21 2 роки тому +3

      I played this game for so many years and never knew that holy shit that's cool

    • @carolinebergin4633
      @carolinebergin4633 2 роки тому +1

      The whale shaped rock was genius! 😄🐳

  • @pablozanoto5801
    @pablozanoto5801 2 роки тому +7

    Fun fact: Sonic NEVER runs with his arms in back of him in this game.

  • @OverX6time
    @OverX6time 2 роки тому +56

    17:06 Looks like the Sonic Mania Mirage Saloon Act 1 train, gigant gun and everything

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +6

      DUDE OMG YES! I wonder if Whitehead's team got the inspiration for it from this picture..anyway, thanks for watching!

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack 2 роки тому

      Not to mention, the front of the train looks like the head of Tails' (and Sonic's if you didn't get all the Emeralds) final boss in Sonic 3!

  • @CutBackDropTurn
    @CutBackDropTurn 2 роки тому +53

    I remember playing Sonic Heroes back when I was a kid in 6th grade. I got it the day it came out. It was amazing. I was shocked at Knuckles' glide being... basically nothing.
    Eldarin though, I gotta say, your output is amazing! This is yet another fantastic video from you! I hope you're not stressing yourself out too much to get these out.
    Sonic Heroes is such a fun and unique game too. I don't think it gets enough credit for what it tried to do and these concept art pieces are amazing! My favorite stage is definitely Egg Fleet and I would love to see more of that stage and how it developed.
    You said that the art for that bone-spine thing Sonic was running on reminded you of Pirate Storm from Secret Rings. I can totally understand why, but my mind instantly went to Skeleton Dome from the same game. Either way, it's a really cool idea.
    I absolutely ADORE how cool and stylish Sonic looks in the concept art where he's doing that dodge, sleep, punch thing. Those sketches capture a real 'tude with the character and it just gives me goosebumps.
    Yet again, you made another great video and I hope you feel proud, man. You're doing amazing and your positive passion for Sonic is felt and reciprocated!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +3

      Hey Dennis I appreciate the kind words!! Heroes is such a unique game and those concept art designs really are something I agree. Now that you mention it, I COMPLETELY forgot Skeleton Dome was even a stage LOL! But yes 100% that used some inspiration as I checked gameplay and that whole spine thing is 1to1 in the stage! Thanks for watching :))

  • @BrokamaGay
    @BrokamaGay 2 роки тому +12

    Always wondered why the Egg Fleet was sea animal themed now we know. Just chalked it up to Eggman having an interest in aquatic life or something, it was always so cool to see either way.

  • @Supermariorpg6
    @Supermariorpg6 2 роки тому +70

    Interesting facts about me is that while SA2 was my first ever Sonic game, Sonic Heroes was the first NEW Sonic game I had ever played at the time.
    My earliest memory of this game was like.. 2004.
    I was like around like 8 years old, I'd remembered my mother and me waited outside a best buy late at a school night to purchase this game..
    Man I feel old.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +5

      Heroes was definitely one of if not my first 3D sonic games myself. Crazy to think time flies like it does hahaha. That’s so cool you remember doing what sounds like a midnight release for the game. Thanks for watching Bomber!

    • @Jovian12
      @Jovian12 2 роки тому

      Oh yeah, I had played Sonic with friends growing up, loved the cartoons, etc. but never had a Sega console myself. So when Sonic was starting to come to the GCN I was beyond excited for Heroes! I even have the CD OST still.

  • @AkameGaKillfan777
    @AkameGaKillfan777 2 роки тому +58

    Nice to see someone research this game in the 2020's for proper critique instead of slander

  • @EvangeRei
    @EvangeRei 2 роки тому +5

    I wouldn't be surprised seeing Cream drinking, like come on she recently went to space to save her mom at the age of 6, you need to have a stress relief somehow xD

  • @purplesabbath9057
    @purplesabbath9057 2 роки тому +8

    I never used to care for Heroes, but I recently went back and started replaying it and I'm enjoying it a lot more this time.

  • @Granditamias
    @Granditamias 2 роки тому +17

    17:42 “Wait, is that a freaking Brachiosaurus?!”
    Lol, as a paleontology nerd, I think that sauropod looks more like a Diplodocus. Though the one in Secret Rings looks more like Agustinia with the spikes jutting out from the sides of its back. Yes, a dinosaur like that actually existed.
    This video had a ton of other moments that made me laugh, like the potential box art with the creepy killer Tails, and Amy and Cream drinking from Martini glasses. And Big in that storyboard also had larger eyes like a traditional Sonic character. I’ve always questioned why he has tiny yellow eyes and other cats like Blaze and Honey don’t.
    I also find it funny that you don’t encounter the giant alligator during the Chaotix’s portion of Lost Jungle. Which only would have drawn more attention to how weird it is that one crocodilian is animalistic and Vector is anthropomorphized. It also reminds me of a giant extinct crocodile called Deinosuchus, which lived in the late cretaceous period and ate dinosaurs for breakfast, so it could have been a remnant of that same scrapped concept as the sauropod.
    I really like how in this game Rouge’s ears move as she emotes, and its cool to see that was planned all the way back in the storyboards. I honestly think they should bring that detail back in the modern games.
    I found that scrapped Japanese ruins zone really interesting as well. Hopefully SEGA recycles that idea for a future game.
    I knew this was your most requested video and I was blown away learning all sorts of new stuff like Takashi Iizuka losing 22 pounds during the game’s development. Great job as always. I guess next Heroes thing to do would be the music just like the Adventure games. Until then, I’m excited to see what you do next.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +4

      Sorry for the late response Granditamias but just wanted to say thank you for watching the video and im super happy to hear you got alot of laughs out of this video! There was alot of crazy stuff with the development that I too found super funny or interesting! Thats also super interesting about the Agustinia as I didnt know that kind of dinosaur existed!

  • @Sea_of_Waves
    @Sea_of_Waves 2 роки тому +10

    I kept rewinding "Shadow Basketball" constantly

  • @Jonloo1
    @Jonloo1 2 роки тому +18

    The facial expressions at 8:50 remind me a lot of the little face Doom Guy has in the old DOS DOOM games.
    Some DOOM ports have support for unique skins, so maybe I could mess around with that a little...

  • @ItsNickForShort
    @ItsNickForShort 2 роки тому +142

    This channel is literally the ultimate encyclopedia of entertainment. Fantastic video!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +10

      Thank you so much man!!! I appreciate the kind words from the GOAT himself

  • @dylanbaron__
    @dylanbaron__ 2 роки тому +10

    Premy would respect Iizuka a lot more if he knew that he designed so much of the level design in this game

  • @starmaster65
    @starmaster65 2 роки тому +10

    Daaang, I totally forgot about the scrapped zone concept art! Cool to see how they possibly reworked them into future titles. Makes me wish they delayed Heroes to give it the extra polish and content it deserved. Still love the game though!

  • @riqopowpow
    @riqopowpow 2 роки тому +18

    10:30
    There is a final render of that concept art, with sonic looking serious, they are running out of a giant energy ring

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +2

      Oh no way! Ill have to check that out, thanks for watching the vid!

    • @riqopowpow
      @riqopowpow 2 роки тому +2

      No problem!
      Love your channel fam.

  • @bagelgod946
    @bagelgod946 2 роки тому +27

    We were so close to getting modern hooligans. Could have been really cool to maybe they could have been working for neo metal sonic.

    • @YamiRequiem98
      @YamiRequiem98 2 роки тому

      YES!!! finally i found someone who knows that originally we were going to have team hooligan but instead they changed it for team chaotix i wish so badly that it was team hooligan cause fang is one of my fav sonic characters and i would have loved to see a modern version of him in a sonic game and see how he would have sounded like if he talked and i wonder how their gameplay would have been like so many possibilities i kinda wish he said something about it in the vid but i guess this type of information was very very early in the game's development so i guess he didn't know about it oh well at least i found u darling!! also as for the working with neo...hmmm...very interesting~ i think u may be on to something~ darling OH YES!!

  • @John1497
    @John1497 2 роки тому +5

    Wow amazing vid man!!!

  • @asari8078
    @asari8078 2 роки тому +11

    Shadow should’ve been in space jam 2

  • @Elias-hm7we
    @Elias-hm7we 2 роки тому +5

    Really wish some of these concepts didn't get scrapped. Casino levels could benefit from having more mechanics than just pinball tables, for example. The concept art of those trains is amazing, too.

  • @worthlessfools1
    @worthlessfools1 2 роки тому +3

    Early prototypes of the game also used a lot of SA1 / SA2 placeholders, such as textures and music. It was generic stuff, but it shows they still viewed Heroes as a sort of spiritual successor to the Adventure titles.

  • @KilosFoxo
    @KilosFoxo 2 роки тому +5

    so basically the idea for heroes initally was
    just make every fucking sonic character who had ever appeared before in the franchise playable

  • @Nothavinit00
    @Nothavinit00 2 роки тому +9

    I'd love to see some of the concept art for "Shadow The Hedgehog".

  • @devingiles6597
    @devingiles6597 2 роки тому +6

    Hey, Eldarin. You should do a video on the art of Sonic Heroes soundtrack!

  • @OmegaSon
    @OmegaSon 2 роки тому +15

    I love Heroes so much man lol. It’s super nostalgic to me too, might’ve been the the first game I ever played. Man I wish we got ports of everything onto modern hardware, it’s killing me not being able to relive this and all the other games from this time on PS4. Anyway though, awesome job on the video dude, also concept art you showed was unbelievably godly especially that Hang Castle one

    • @OmegaSon
      @OmegaSon 2 роки тому

      @@hebbocake all I got is a ps4

    • @James-pb8xu
      @James-pb8xu 2 роки тому

      @@OmegaSon mod it and put an emulator on there

    • @OmegaSon
      @OmegaSon 2 роки тому

      @@James-pb8xu no

  • @MilesFox92
    @MilesFox92 2 роки тому +10

    Sonic Heroes was criminally underrated IMO. Yeah, it has its flaws like some level bugs that I encounter every walkthrough, but damn, the team gameplay and the level designs are just awesome. I wish this would be remastered instead of Colors :(
    Video was great good luck in future videos! :)

  • @TimDespairBear11
    @TimDespairBear11 2 роки тому +3

    Sonic heroes is an awesome game, it’s probably the most underrated 3D sonic.

  • @seasidecolors5277
    @seasidecolors5277 2 роки тому +9

    This is a really good video. Sonic Heroes is my favorite Sonic game and it's cool to see a piece by piece analysis of the available material from it's development stages.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Seaside! Super happy you enjoyed the video.I agree its super interesting checking out the development for this game.

  • @mattmarrillia4907
    @mattmarrillia4907 2 роки тому +7

    Hey, I remember reading that GameInformer Article!

  • @Vegitodraws
    @Vegitodraws 2 роки тому +6

    Bro, why you cut away from my boi Shadow dunkin that B'ball like LeBron James. Shadow basketball is legendary meme status

  • @nottoofast
    @nottoofast 2 роки тому +3

    I gotta say I love the proportions on Rouge in 8:1
    Would be cool to see models like that.
    Also, *Rock Shaped Whale*

  • @MetaKnuxXbeats
    @MetaKnuxXbeats 2 роки тому +15

    This probably has one of the most interesting concept arts I have ever seen for a Sonic game. Makes me wonder how the game would of been if they kept a lot of the stuff that were in the concept art. I do think a lot of the concepts ended up being reused for later games since the main series console game that come out after Heroes (besides Shadow the Hedgehog) was 06 and Secret Rings was supposed to be a Wii version of 06 so it makes me wonder....

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      That is a good point! I forgot about the 06 split on the wii turning into secret rings..I suppose they had to go to the vault since they didnt have the time to get think of a bunch of new zones maybe? Not sure. Anyways, thanks for watching MetaKnux!

    • @MetaKnuxXbeats
      @MetaKnuxXbeats 2 роки тому +1

      @@Eldarin though that dose make me wonder if the 06 Wii port idea was done in full, how different would the game be? Of course it wouldn’t be the same as Secret Rings (or Wild Fire as it was called early on) but if we use Unleashed as an example, ironically another game that came right after 06, the next gen versions and the Wii/PS2 versions of Unleashed was fairly different. Not story wise but there are levels that are either not present or designed differently. Not really sure if a dinosaur and Pirate ship level would be present but I think Shahra was ment to be the Elise of the game. Probably overthinking this but I am considering all possibilities.

  • @ThatOneAwkGuy
    @ThatOneAwkGuy 2 роки тому +2

    Bro I've had this game since like 2005, and I've NEVER noticed the whale island in Seaside, that's nuts

  • @petergriscom3431
    @petergriscom3431 2 роки тому +8

    Seeing the all the crunch, the multiplatform engine trouble, and the whole "appeal to new fans" thing, it's no wonder Heroes turned out the way it did. I feel almost guilty with how disappointed I was with Heroes, knowing now how hard they all worked on it.

    • @GoodLuckHolly
      @GoodLuckHolly 2 роки тому +2

      Well you know, effort doesn't make A's and all that

    • @petergriscom3431
      @petergriscom3431 2 роки тому

      @@GoodLuckHolly Yeah, the engine was a slippery mess, and the levels and enemies were such a chore. And it's still baffling as to why they gave us gimped versions of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles awkwardly grabbing each other, when they could've just had us tag between each unburdened character.

  • @BWF6_Official
    @BWF6_Official 2 роки тому +17

    Once again very interesting! Concept art is the only type of source that shows how a game has changed without looking at prototypes. Sonic Heroes surely has changed in its development. The colored stage concepts are very beautiful.

  • @Cisconic
    @Cisconic 2 роки тому +6

    Yeeee boiiiiiii

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +2

      hell ye buddeh thanks for stopping by!

  • @RPKGameVids
    @RPKGameVids 6 днів тому

    It's crazy how much love this game gets now. Back in the day everyone hated on it, at the time I felt like the only person who liked it.

  • @six5157
    @six5157 2 роки тому +3

    waking up - shadow the hedgehog - ost is my favorite sonic heroes song

    • @ElenStar3343
      @ElenStar3343 2 роки тому +1

      Pfttt! Fist Pump is my favoritw track on Sonic Heroes

    • @ballpitwater
      @ballpitwater 2 роки тому +1

      Ah yes, You're my number one - Sonic R OST
      My favorite Heroes track

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +2

      Ay yes, Sonic Mania...my favorite Sonic Heroes game

  • @d3-penguin954
    @d3-penguin954 2 роки тому +5

    Another great video. I’ve been waiting for a sonic heroes video. It’s unironically one of my favorite 3D sonic games. It’s kind of a shame the reception of the game is still a bit on the divisive side in the fandom

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! I got one more video of Heroes on its music underway right now. Thanks so much for watching

  • @Spongeton16
    @Spongeton16 2 роки тому +6

    My favorite game of all time ❤️

  • @pixelatedink774
    @pixelatedink774 2 роки тому +2

    12:48
    "Rock shaped whale."
    Imagine that lmao

  • @TwoTailedSponge
    @TwoTailedSponge 2 роки тому +2

    I love these storyboards shown here.

  • @DaGrblz
    @DaGrblz 2 роки тому +8

    I had a blast drawing the thumbnail art for this video, thank you again for having me do it man!! And the video is awesome, you've done it yet again!! :DD

  • @rigbysmith2333
    @rigbysmith2333 2 роки тому +3

    New Eldarin upload = indescribably BASED

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much Rigby :)))

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 2 роки тому +2

    Sonic Heroes is my second favorite 3D Sonic game next to Sonic Unleashed, it's a very slept on game in my opinion.

  • @robonaught
    @robonaught 2 роки тому +3

    2:33 Metal Sonic originally being one of the playable team characters seems to imply he wasn't going to be the main antagonist in the early drafts and was gonna have a more heroic role. While I do like Metal as the main antagonist i'm a little sad this scrapped because Metal deserves to have more heroic roles in more games. The only game so far he does anything heroic is Rivals 2.

    • @DynoSkrimisher
      @DynoSkrimisher 2 роки тому

      Yeah, it would be nice for him to fight his programming or compete with sonic like how Shadow does.

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much 2 роки тому +12

    i absolutely adore all this concept art, even more than some of the Adventure series art. ironic seeing how Heroes is my least favorite in the series lol

    • @gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179
      @gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 2 роки тому

      If I can ask, why is it your least favorite? :

    • @Hutch2Much
      @Hutch2Much 2 роки тому

      @@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 physics mostly

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 2 роки тому +1

      Adventure 1, 2 and heroes are my favourite out of the 3D games

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 2 роки тому +1

      Oh and sonic riders the first one, sonic generations is also great

    • @TheRealUnkn0wn_289
      @TheRealUnkn0wn_289 2 роки тому +1

      Also Sonic Venture Plus it really makes you feel like sonic, and Sonic Robo Blast 2

  • @PurplePandaClock
    @PurplePandaClock 2 роки тому +3

    Omega's design in the storyboard looks like Commando Man from Mega Man 10

    • @Protosilver97
      @Protosilver97 2 роки тому

      He reminds more of Napalm Man, but yeah, he looks like a Mega Man character.

  • @nothumanz
    @nothumanz 2 роки тому +2

    Sonic will forever be stuck midair posing

  • @majic144p
    @majic144p 2 роки тому +2

    12:48 *ROCK-SHAPED WHALE.*

  • @Argentavis
    @Argentavis 2 роки тому +2

    I really appreciate that you include sources and really dive deep into your research. Also, your setup, editing, and script as a whole is fantastic!
    You deserve a hell of a lot more subs!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thank you! It truly means alot. Super happy to hear you enjoy it :))

  • @sachab-h2907
    @sachab-h2907 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve just started watching and your topics exhibit what I want the sonic franchise to be remembered by, some of the funnest platform games of all time with memorable characters, locations and DAMN GOOD MUSIC!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much Sacha, it truly means alot to hear you enjoy my videos! I am trying my best to show my love for the series! :)))

  • @CheerUpCrewcut
    @CheerUpCrewcut 2 роки тому +1

    Tons of interesting stage and storyboard art... nice. Thanks for compiling it all together like this, your videos are great.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much it really means alot :D

  • @gumbo342
    @gumbo342 2 роки тому +3

    Another great video as always.

  • @TheEternalSamurai
    @TheEternalSamurai 2 роки тому +2

    Yo! Loved this vid! Sonic Heroes is one of my most fav and nostalgic Sonic games. Real interesting to see the behind the scenes work. Looking forward to more Eldarin. 😁

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much Samic! Also thanks for stopping by man...means alot! Glad you enjoyed the video :DD

  • @evanhanley6437
    @evanhanley6437 2 роки тому

    Its so cool to hear more about this game that I didn't know of. Those pieces of concept art are absolutely incredible! This will always be my favourite Sonic game. Amazing work!

  • @soulsparx
    @soulsparx 2 роки тому +1

    the way i always interpreted it, stages that share assets are the same place, just different "acts"; seaside hill is act 1, ocean palace is act 2, casino park is act 1, bingo highway is act 2, etc etc

    • @mizzix
      @mizzix 2 роки тому

      I think thats what the devs intended, just wasnt called acts because heroes is kind of a mix of classic and adventure and they went with the adventure naming method

  • @gumbo342
    @gumbo342 2 роки тому +3

    Another great video as always

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much Matthew!

  • @uzer141
    @uzer141 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for not only showing off Sonic Heroes but also putting some respect on SA2B in this day in age! 💯 I was nodding my head in the intro when you mentioned how SA2B was one of the best Sonic games and I 100% agree. I don’t regret getting all 180 emblems with multiple chaos chao(s)

  • @sethmushambavanhu8391
    @sethmushambavanhu8391 2 роки тому +8

    Wow I though forces dev's had troubles but heroes is something else

  • @Antonio-is2cn
    @Antonio-is2cn 2 роки тому +1

    I first played Sonic Heroes in a McDonald's playground area with a kiosk with the Gamecube version of Heroes which became one of my favorite Sonic games, I also remember the Mini LCD Sonic Games from McDonald's!

  • @JW-mk9me
    @JW-mk9me 2 роки тому +3

    What comes up must come down. Yet my feet don't touch the ground.....

  • @SLGayming
    @SLGayming 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing work as always man. Always intresting to see the info you can uncover in your videos. Amazing work as always and good luck on whatever this 4th unrevealed video you have been working on for a while

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much SL! Means alot, and itll be released shortly ;)

    • @SLGayming
      @SLGayming 2 роки тому

      @@Eldarin looking forward to it buddy

  • @Xchi
    @Xchi 2 роки тому +2

    This is a great thing to wake up to great vid like always

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much Diplomatic! It means alot!

  • @danielgarciaescudero2862
    @danielgarciaescudero2862 2 роки тому +1

    When I became a fan like 10 years ago, I got Sonic heroes for Gamecube and played it a lot until a stage I couldnt beat, that was the crocodile part from frog forest. Then I tried the game once more a couple of times on these recent years, and its pretty fun and great, but with many glitches and bugs that could be easily fixed with a rerelease.

  • @noodletribunal9793
    @noodletribunal9793 2 роки тому

    2:50 i was just thinking about those recently. i really actually enjoyed those, and LOVED the designs

  • @nexusetmiaouss
    @nexusetmiaouss 2 роки тому +2

    This is beautiful!

  • @the-NightStar
    @the-NightStar 2 роки тому +1

    I may have hated Sonic Heroes and never enjoyed it as a game, but it's still interesting seeing it's concept art.

  • @fnaf2isthegoat75
    @fnaf2isthegoat75 2 роки тому +5

    Even though I don't like the gameplay I will admit it's has some of the most ambitious Sonic level design.

    • @7mamdouh748
      @7mamdouh748 2 роки тому +2

      I agree! sonic team's story has the level design (mostly) focused on speed.

  • @serinsarp86
    @serinsarp86 2 роки тому +1

    another excelent video! great job

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @KYRA_RISING
    @KYRA_RISING 2 роки тому +1

    10:06 When I first saw that concept on the Sonic wiki, I thought the sleep was a scrapped idle animation. But now that I think about it, using it in a mocking manner against enemies as if to say “Wow, this is so easy it’s boring” would’ve been hilarious. The other dodge and attack moves are drawn really well, too.
    If only these older 3D games weren’t held back by technical limitations…

  • @MiTexcel
    @MiTexcel 2 роки тому +1

    Well that was a fun video! You definetly got yourself a new subscriber.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much!! Really happy to hear you enjoyed the video :D

  • @mauriziogomez6649
    @mauriziogomez6649 2 роки тому +1

    I was just thinking of Heroes concept art today... good work esper Eldarin.

  • @ZigDaKid
    @ZigDaKid 2 роки тому +1

    awesome vid as always man! waiting for the next live stream! :p

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man means alot! Dont worry they will be back soon enough :))

  • @christianlamar_
    @christianlamar_ 2 роки тому +2

    Heroes needs a remake or remaster for the switch. That would be so much fun with online play in the multiplayer mode.
    I remember foolishly having the ps2 version of the game and really thinking that’s how it played. Then a couple of years later I got the GameCube version and had a much better experience

  • @Prima_Media
    @Prima_Media 2 роки тому +2

    Doooope! Heroes's world is so wacky, makes it so unique compared to all the other ones.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +2

      Right?! It’s crazy how it’s able to blend the classic and adventure styles so well. Thanks for stopping by and watching the video :))

    • @Prima_Media
      @Prima_Media 2 роки тому +2

      @@Eldarin Yeah! And I've been wanting to watch these all for a while, gonna be a fun marathon! :D

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +2

      @@Prima_Media xD well I hope you enjoy them!

  • @MilkshakeSkunkette
    @MilkshakeSkunkette 2 роки тому +1

    great video man! always pumping out quality content! :D

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Appreciate it! :DD

  • @LAZY-RUBY
    @LAZY-RUBY 2 роки тому +1

    Another fun fact: All the CG cutscenes were animated by the same studio behind the animated Tech Deck commercials from the early 2000s!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      I used to love those when I was younger! That’s so cool, I didn’t know that. Thanks for watching!

  • @anthonyvo1963
    @anthonyvo1963 2 роки тому +1

    Another video looks awesome!

  • @black.sasuke.uchiha
    @black.sasuke.uchiha 2 роки тому +1

    Had to subscribe for that theme at the end!🥸🦎🐊🐝

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      yessir! The best theme, also thank you happy you enjoyed the video

  • @kenanwallace2124
    @kenanwallace2124 2 роки тому +1

    I'm surprised I've only just found this channel. The only other channel I've seen breakdown Sonic art in some capacity is Mark the Artist in terms of the evolution of the characters, so it's nice to see someone go in depth on other aspects like concept, environment and storyboard art. Consider me subbed and likewise, Heroes is indeed a favorite of mine.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Happy to hear you enjoyed the video!! Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy the ride :D

  • @thedinguskhan9299
    @thedinguskhan9299 2 роки тому +2

    Love your videos, man. Sonic Heroes isn’t my favorite game but it sure is an interesting one.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much man it really means alot to hear the kind words!!! This games development was for sure an interesting one, I agree!

  • @JamanthaContent
    @JamanthaContent 2 роки тому +2

    Another awesome video! This one is going to do well I’m sure!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching and the kind words Jam! Hope you enjoyed :))

  • @sayer4148
    @sayer4148 2 роки тому +3

    This was surprisingly fast.

  • @AuntieAliasing
    @AuntieAliasing 11 місяців тому +1

    The Jōmon-Yayoi-Kofun level at 21:21 most likely became Gigan Rocks (and Device) in Sonic Riders: Shooting Star Story/Zero Gravity

  • @DemonDethchase
    @DemonDethchase 2 роки тому +3

    Great video as always dude
    With Rouge's black suit, I think maybe instead of red, I'd say that deep purple would be a better choice, but saying I am partial to abit of purple so there is that XD
    Also here's hoping we get a HD port of Heroes soon, and hopefully not caring over any of the "improvements" from Colours Ultimate, like the training wheels that permanently fixed to the game with the Tails Save and 100 to give you invincibility.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Demon! I hope we get a HD port of Heroes soon too! It honestly wouldn’t be much to port the GameCube version over and make it widescreen and such as the game still looks quite good in my opinion!

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 2 роки тому +1

      @@Eldarin yep, and having a playable Tails on your team is the only Tails Save you need. However if there was to be one new improvement I would like to see for Heroes in a remaster, and this would be a genuine one: have Tails, and the other Fly type characters, be able to run around just the same as the Speed and Power types. That was one thing I didn't like about it, as I'd prefer to see Tails and Rouge play more like their Adventure styles, however they'd still able to do the team moves ofcourse.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah that is a good idea about the fly type characters. I have two things I’d propose for a remake: 1. Tweak to fly characters so they can glide a bit when running out of fly power snd 2. Being able to switch in middair and use abilities.Would definitely be interested to see what they do with it

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 2 роки тому +1

      @@Eldarin I think that could work, being able to swap whenever. Because that's what Marvel vs Capcom Infinite did with its tag team mechanic and it worked pretty well in it I thought.

  • @Duplo_N
    @Duplo_N 2 роки тому +1

    I played this game for the first time in my father PC when I was 6 or 7 years. Good memories in these days I play some time :I

  • @hiraeth7250
    @hiraeth7250 2 роки тому +1

    I am now going to use this video and others like it to inform my headcanon of what the ideal heroes remake would be, a thought I escape into when I need reprieve from my depressive episodes 😌💗

  • @MaverickKayPrime
    @MaverickKayPrime 2 роки тому +5

    I love unlocking concept art in videogames, so imagine my disappointment when I got the Red Rings in Sonic Forces and realized they don't do diddlysquat. Especially since I feel like Sonic Forces concept art would be really cool to look through. I wonder how many different races the Avatar went through before we got the races we got in the game, but I digress.
    Now that you're done with Sonic Heroes though, I wonder what you'll do next. If I have to say, maybe Shadow the Hedgehog? I have no idea where you're getting all this concept art from (and I'm super jealous), so if you could find something on that, that would be really cool.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому

      Super happy to hear you enjoyed the video! ((you wont be disappointed ;)))

  • @BlueAmpharos
    @BlueAmpharos 2 роки тому +1

    23:10 They're also in some of the classic titles too! Especially the fiery ones that were in Hilltop Zone but I'm sure there were spikey ones before that.

  • @YouOpaOpa
    @YouOpaOpa 2 роки тому

    17:22 I love how the train has Robotnik's face on it.

  • @neuteka
    @neuteka 2 роки тому +1

    dude, your channel is criminally underrated. These vids are of the highest QUALITY.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much and it really means alot! :DD

  • @immortallix
    @immortallix 2 роки тому +2

    Sonic X was and still is pure kino

  • @mattvirginia8501
    @mattvirginia8501 2 роки тому +1

    Sonic heroes was my first ever Sonic game, if not my first ever game I really got into! I love it. I should get back to playing with it. I loved the tornado attack and it introduced me to my favorite characters, Shadow and Metal Sonic! It formed at least a large portion of who I am today.