Would be interesting to interview two people of the same interaction style but different lead functions to see how they navigate goals (or what results they want and if they’re actually the same), whether in a relationship, professional setting etc.
@@JoyceMeng22 Yes, thank you for this video! It would be really interesting to see the 4 MBTI types that fall under each interaction style to see how it manifests in them differently. Thank you again :)
Cultural context has soo much influence on interaction style it’s true. People underestimate it. There’s a lot of suppression going on and this is one reason for it.
@08:59 i was thinking about that. I read a bit about Jung's concept of ''collective unconscious''. Jung believe that ''the self'' is form by those traits that we inherited rather than formed by personal experience. I haven't read much about it though and how he came to that conclusion or if he believes that the psychological functions are entirely inborn and we react to the environment throught those inherited traits.
@@hirsch4155 yes it is. Mrs. Berens explain the concept well. I was just thinking the Jung concept of ''collective unconscious'' when she was explaining ''the self'' or the core.
@@hanjesse31 Yeah it’s interesting , it also makes me think of epigenetics, like inherited modulations of how our DNA expresses. Is the developed self subject partially to the interplay between the collective unconscious and these modulations ? I have trouble getting my head around it. Are you Ni-dom?
That was an excellent video- Linda is so humble and insightful. I really enjoyed hearing her perspective on how her type didn’t change, but that she grew as a person. Beautiful.
I had never heard of Linda Berens until today so thanks. I like the four categories of stabilizer, improviser, theorizer, catalyst. I think this could be useful in life coaching. For example, If an improviser is unsure of a direction to take then a catalyst could come in handy rather than a stabilizer. Conversely if theorizer is brilliant but too much in their head then a stabiilizer could be of help in grounding them and keeping them on a straight path. Also I think catalysts could benefit from a theorist coach. Higher knowledge and levity for their restless souls.
Joyce just couldn't stop herself from the avalanche of compliments for the legendary Linda😅. thanks so much for this very much informative interview. it was magnificent really
Having Linda Berens as your guest. This is awesome! ❤ 47:07 Yes, I love more information! Linda is right, your Catalyst self is showing. You're a great host, Joyce!
Thank you for making this happen Joyce!I have always found Linda Berens' interaction styles to be one of the most highly observable attributes when self-typing. Self-typing is often hard and biased, but I thought it was instantly obvious to see whether I'm initiating/responding, or direct/informative, when taking into account my years of childhood and times of adapting to work environments. I do wonder about the matrix, instead of Keirsey's temperaments, how compatible the interaction styles would be with OPS concepts, such as single decider/observers. What I find interesting is that each interaction style only has either one single decider, or one single observer, and I wonder if these typed are then exceptional in some way in their respective interaction styles.
This was a very well articulated framework. This model IMO, exposes OPS in terms of how it types. I’ve always made the case that under the video requirements, some people will give you the contextual self, and not the core self. Therefore some people are being typed incorrectly. Thanks for reintroducing Linda’s work.
This is amazing! Learning about the different overlapping layers, as well as our core parts that contribute to type. The nature and nurture facets that contributes to all the nuances of an individual is fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
Love this interview. Thanks to Linda and yourself for providing much clarity on the Styles and Motivators. It’s huge for self reflection and understanding. ✨
Without the intp ability to bring forth new information and theory to the personal development of ourselves, a beautiful, amazing young lady like you would not be able to help others to recognize gifting and talents.
Comment No. 70. It is indeed a magnificent contribution to the typing community. Unfortunately a lot of people don't know it, or use it and are quite lost. A lot of mistyping come from not using this.
Thanks alot for this amazing video. It's full of knowledge and wisdom. I admire this amazing woman Linda Berens so much I wanna be wise like her when I grow up
Thank you Linda for being so earnest and informative to the viewers. Zeitgeist is such a lovely term to explain the Spirit of the times. I liked how you tracked the zeitgeist of our recent times in your other presentation. OK I'm about to ask something controversial - what doyouthink about the new temperament theory EJ, IP, EP and IJ? Does it have a chance or is it just goobly goop?
@@PowerRedBullTypology Well, Objective Personality calls it the 4 human needs / Frank James calls it the 4 temperaments / cognitivetype.com calls it the 4 energetics. But essentially they all refer to EJ IP EP IJ as a new way of dividing the 16 types into 4 groups. In terms of their psychological needs/aim.
@@Alazsel Oh thanks, I see! I did not know this sort of classification is considered new. It seems that if any of such classifical obeys to a logical structure, they are expected to have things in common and it basically almost can not be a nonsensical way of looking at it. However, to me any way you can look at a thing is valuable (but that may be my Ne that likes this).
@@PowerRedBullTypology yeah FJ pretty much repeats OPS; tribe/ self/ gather/ organise. While cognitivetype.com is following; utility/ alignment/ novelty/ predictability. In the order of EJ IP EP IJ once again.
Thank you Joyce, I just recognized that I'm often disatisfied with conversations I had, and knowing how I "work" was a big win:). Happy new year and greetings from Germany!
Why we can't have Direct, initiating, movement (instead of control) or informative, responding (instead of initiating), movement for interaction styles? For example.
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Talked for few min relating to the question. Proceeds to say “I forgot what your question was” 😂😂I love the authenticity I be like that too sometimes
Would be interesting to interview two people of the same interaction style but different lead functions to see how they navigate goals (or what results they want and if they’re actually the same), whether in a relationship, professional setting etc.
Great idea, @EJ Hirsch!! I will tackle that topic in future videos. 🙂
@@JoyceMeng22 Yes, thank you for this video! It would be really interesting to see the 4 MBTI types that fall under each interaction style to see how it manifests in them differently. Thank you again :)
Cultural context has soo much influence on interaction style it’s true. People underestimate it. There’s a lot of suppression going on and this is one reason for it.
@08:59 i was thinking about that. I read a bit about Jung's concept of ''collective unconscious''. Jung believe that ''the self'' is form by those traits that we inherited rather than formed by personal experience. I haven't read much about it though and how he came to that conclusion or if he believes that the psychological functions are entirely inborn and we react to the environment throught those inherited traits.
And the ''twin studies''also came to mind
@@hanjesse31 I think it’s explained pretty well in the video by Berens.
@@hirsch4155 yes it is. Mrs. Berens explain the concept well. I was just thinking the Jung concept of ''collective unconscious'' when she was explaining ''the self'' or the core.
@@hanjesse31 Yeah it’s interesting , it also makes me think of epigenetics, like inherited modulations of how our DNA expresses. Is the developed self subject partially to the interplay between the collective unconscious and these modulations ? I have trouble getting my head around it. Are you Ni-dom?
Linda to Joyce after Joyce’s many words of affirmation, “Your Catalyst is showing.” lol. Brilliant.
That was an excellent video- Linda is so humble and insightful. I really enjoyed hearing her perspective on how her type didn’t change, but that she grew as a person. Beautiful.
Wow, Linda Berens and Joyce on the same show. 2 psychology stars! Amazing!
Wow, such high praise! Thank you, @Ma Mu!
I had never heard of Linda Berens until today so thanks.
I like the four categories of stabilizer, improviser, theorizer, catalyst. I think this could be useful in life coaching. For example, If an improviser is unsure of a direction to take then a catalyst could come in handy rather than a stabilizer. Conversely if theorizer is brilliant but too much in their head then a stabiilizer could be of help in grounding them and keeping them on a straight path.
Also I think catalysts could benefit from a theorist coach. Higher knowledge and levity for their restless souls.
Joyce just couldn't stop herself from the avalanche of compliments for the legendary Linda😅. thanks so much for this very much informative interview. it was magnificent really
Having Linda Berens as your guest. This is awesome! ❤ 47:07 Yes, I love more information! Linda is right, your Catalyst self is showing. You're a great host, Joyce!
💕 Awww. Thanks, @Polish Meow!
Thank you for making this happen Joyce!I have always found Linda Berens' interaction styles to be one of the most highly observable attributes when self-typing. Self-typing is often hard and biased, but I thought it was instantly obvious to see whether I'm initiating/responding, or direct/informative, when taking into account my years of childhood and times of adapting to work environments.
I do wonder about the matrix, instead of Keirsey's temperaments, how compatible the interaction styles would be with OPS concepts, such as single decider/observers. What I find interesting is that each interaction style only has either one single decider, or one single observer, and I wonder if these typed are then exceptional in some way in their respective interaction styles.
The queen herself
This was a very well articulated framework. This model IMO, exposes OPS in terms of how it types. I’ve always made the case that under the video requirements, some people will give you the contextual self, and not the core self. Therefore some people are being typed incorrectly. Thanks for reintroducing Linda’s work.
This is amazing! Learning about the different overlapping layers, as well as our core parts that contribute to type. The nature and nurture facets that contributes to all the nuances of an individual is fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
The topic was touched upon briefly. I would love to hear more about it.
Great interview Joyce!
Wondering why it took me about a year before finding this golden nugget at UA-cam.
Glad you feel that way. 🙂 Linda is truly a gem in the community!
Love this interview.
Thanks to Linda and yourself for providing much clarity on the Styles and Motivators.
It’s huge for self reflection and understanding. ✨
Without the intp ability to bring forth new information and theory to the personal development of ourselves, a beautiful, amazing young lady like you would not be able to help others to recognize gifting and talents.
That’s pretty amazing you got Linda Berens on
Comment No. 70. It is indeed a magnificent contribution to the typing community. Unfortunately a lot of people don't know it, or use it and are quite lost. A lot of mistyping come from not using this.
so dope you have Linda Berens!❤️
I'll watch this, share it on my channel put it in playlists. Well done, Joyce, for getting her on. :)
You're a gem. :D Thanks!
@@JoyceMeng22 Thank you for your kind words. BTW, I've sent you a message suggesting a video you could do. :)
@@BenVaserlan Sure! I will check Telegram.
@@JoyceMeng22 :)
YES! I love this theory!!
Thanks alot for this amazing video. It's full of knowledge and wisdom. I admire this amazing woman Linda Berens so much I wanna be wise like her when I grow up
Thanks for this wonderful interview with a pillar of the typology community.
Thank you Linda for being so earnest and informative to the viewers. Zeitgeist is such a lovely term to explain the Spirit of the times. I liked how you tracked the zeitgeist of our recent times in your other presentation.
OK I'm about to ask something controversial - what doyouthink about the new temperament theory EJ, IP, EP and IJ? Does it have a chance or is it just goobly goop?
What is new about temperament theories of such groups? Which one?
@@PowerRedBullTypology Well, Objective Personality calls it the 4 human needs / Frank James calls it the 4 temperaments / cognitivetype.com calls it the 4 energetics. But essentially they all refer to EJ IP EP IJ as a new way of dividing the 16 types into 4 groups. In terms of their psychological needs/aim.
@@Alazsel Oh thanks, I see! I did not know this sort of classification is considered new. It seems that if any of such classifical obeys to a logical structure, they are expected to have things in common and it basically almost can not be a nonsensical way of looking at it. However, to me any way you can look at a thing is valuable (but that may be my Ne that likes this).
@@Alazsel IS what Frank James says about it the same as OPS?
@@PowerRedBullTypology yeah FJ pretty much repeats OPS; tribe/ self/ gather/ organise. While cognitivetype.com is following; utility/ alignment/ novelty/ predictability. In the order of EJ IP EP IJ once again.
Loved loved loved everything about this Joyce. Thank you for putting this on my radar, can't wait to dive in
🤍🤍 Enjoy, Danille!!
Thank you Joyce, I just recognized that I'm often disatisfied with conversations I had, and knowing how I "work" was a big win:).
Happy new year and greetings from Germany!
You helped more than you think , thank you
Algorithm comment. Looking forward to watching this one.
What a wonderful and helpful conversation! Thank you, as always, Joyce (and Linda!) ☺️
Yay Linda! (Hi Linda)
Hi Kevin! :D
@@JoyceMeng22 :D
Why we can't have Direct, initiating, movement (instead of control) or informative, responding (instead of initiating), movement for interaction styles? For example.
I am a control informative behind-the-scenes type. Only in my shadow and demon can I become direct.
At least 2 out of 3 met, say it:
1. Is it true?
2. Is it necessary?
3. Is it kind?
“The voice of God” 😂 😂 😂
Your Fe isn’t just showing, it’s booming
BLM and BLT was gold 💖
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