My favorite light of the era! Good video. This is a mech that requires being correctly used to earn it's BV. Battlytics ratings are based on a strait up fight that the Javelin should never be a part of. The JVN-10F is a backstabber that forces heavier units to break formation and leave nested positions or die. A medium laser hit combined with a punch pierces the rear side torso of most of the common ammo packing heavies of the era. I definitely agree with the armor not being distributed well. In campaigns I remove 3 armor from each arm and add 1 to each leg and side torso as well as 2 to the head. BTW Kurita fans that put a JR7-F in every lance-The JR7-F is supposed to be a very rare variant. Meanwhile the JVN-10F is fairly common in Fed Suns space.
It’s probably one of the few mechs that I really think should get over armored legs. Like the design should’ve stripped a few points of arm armor to get those legs up to 15 points and like you said another point or two somewhere to reinforce the head
Oh yeah! 10F Javelin ftw! This thing is like the Honda Civic of IS mechs: a solid and dependable design that won't let you down as long as you don't make it do things it wasn't designed to do. Keep it on the flanks to deal with smaller, faster threats or jump around and use those hands to grab objectives and then get out of dodge. Edit: If you're gonna add a Javelin to your Hinterlands campaign, might I recommend the 11D?
As far as 3025 goes there are worse picks for a mech. A good mix of speed, firepower and armour for its size. It can go hunt scout mechs, help hold a flank or help out a bigger mech in a fight, it can take on the unlucky 40-tonners at a pinch. As soon as lostech or Clans are involved it becomes diminishing returns, but it has a reasonable inherent functionality, so even if obsolete it can still sting if needed.
Hey Aaron I enjoy your battlytics reports , but I was wandering if or when can you do custom builds and see a more accurate representation of a more optimized version of all mechs and vehicles. Like a custom Wvrn-8k or some others. I have used custom build mechs that seem way more efficient. like my wolverine on HBS BattleTech is 1 Er LL, 1 erML, x2 SSRM 6, and a MPL., endosteel, light eng. 260? (maybe) FF armor. thanks for the reports. wish you all had more Battle reports, i can watch those all day.
I quite like the 2xSRM6 javelin, just as a cheap mobile inferno carrier. I thought it would be easy to replace with something bigger, like 2xSRM6 at 6/9/6 is all I needed it to be so i could likely find something else to fill that role in the IS mechbase, no? Well after alot of scouring, not really, in the Clan Invasion at least. More stuff comes out like it once MMLs become a thing, but like the IS had multiple omnimechs of their own in like 3055 thru 3058, but for whatever reason NEITHER the omni 6/9/6 Firestarter nor the omni 5/8/5 Blackhawk KU had SRM6 variants. Like, come on man, they're OMNIs, you're saying nobody in universe had a need for an uparmored Javelin to fire Infernos at Battle Armor that they modified their firestarter to do that? There are two Solaris 7 mechs that can do that, but they're basically one-offs Like, the Wolverine 7K is close enough and is quite good for that purpose, but as a pure pure 2x SRM6 boat for infernos on a mech you cannot really do much better than the Javelin, and that is why I love the 10N. The 10F does nothing for me. It's a'aight but uninspired. Use the Jenner 7F for that role instead.
Medium lasers are one of the best IS weapons of this era. The real strength of this mech is jumping and backshotting, which won’t be reflected in this analysis. Even assaults can’t take too many MLs to the back…
@ hmmm maybe this just reflects my playstyle, but I feel like I always end up in melee range at some point. That means the shorter range of IS pulse lasers isn’t so bad, and VSP lasers can be insane on brawlers… but I think IS MLs being the best is a completely fair take :)
4 ML on a mobile mech can be a real pain if the pilot knows how to use terrain to stay alive longer (hills for nullifying leg shots, woods for added TM or either of theose to block LOS completely) and can stick around to threaten rear shots or for later game clean up. It might not be impressive on paper, or the table terrain and pilot depending, but in the right circumstances and in the right hands it can punch WAY above its weight.
The last time I was this early the Charger was still used for scouting 😂
My favorite light of the era! Good video.
This is a mech that requires being correctly used to earn it's BV.
Battlytics ratings are based on a strait up fight that the Javelin should never
be a part of. The JVN-10F is a backstabber that forces heavier units to break
formation and leave nested positions or die.
A medium laser hit combined with a punch pierces the rear side torso
of most of the common ammo packing heavies of the era.
I definitely agree with the armor not being distributed well.
In campaigns I remove 3 armor from each arm and add 1 to each leg and
side torso as well as 2 to the head.
BTW Kurita fans that put a JR7-F in every lance-The JR7-F is supposed to be
a very rare variant. Meanwhile the JVN-10F is fairly common in Fed Suns space.
JR7-F is pricey too! Great comment and thanks for watching
Ah, the Javelin. That sneaky old Javelin. This is my go-to variant of the Javelin in the succession wars era play, a solid little striker.
One of the best variants. Simple, efficient, and all energy baby!
Great video! Hopefully, get to see a javelin in future battle report. Looking forward to more videos and updates.
Did you even mention the Javelin's helmet head? S tier helmech. Right up there with the Victor.
Any love for the JR7-F, the flashbulb Jenner ticks many of the same boxes as the JVN-10F
It’s probably one of the few mechs that I really think should get over armored legs. Like the design should’ve stripped a few points of arm armor to get those legs up to 15 points and like you said another point or two somewhere to reinforce the head
Oh yeah! 10F Javelin ftw! This thing is like the Honda Civic of IS mechs: a solid and dependable design that won't let you down as long as you don't make it do things it wasn't designed to do. Keep it on the flanks to deal with smaller, faster threats or jump around and use those hands to grab objectives and then get out of dodge.
Edit: If you're gonna add a Javelin to your Hinterlands campaign, might I recommend the 11D?
You may!
Valkyrie QD was my light mech. Would like to see a video of that Mech.
Woo Battlytics! But of course Aaron has to cheat by using a variant... 🤪
I can’t help myself!!!
It's on! Javelin on Javelin action! 😂
Yay, my favorite light mech, outside of a firestarter, or spider, or Valkyrie.... Perhaps a Jenner variant... Okay it is top 5!
Haha you named some good ones! Sounds like a light lance worth trying (minus the Spider haha)
Idea, javelin Lam loaded with SRMs that just crashes into the enemy.
JVN-11B for that super cheap (BV) crit seeking scout/infantry hunter (if you take 1 ton of Infernos for the SRM4's).
All I can think is how many turns did it take to kill the Awesome…
As far as 3025 goes there are worse picks for a mech. A good mix of speed, firepower and armour for its size. It can go hunt scout mechs, help hold a flank or help out a bigger mech in a fight, it can take on the unlucky 40-tonners at a pinch.
As soon as lostech or Clans are involved it becomes diminishing returns, but it has a reasonable inherent functionality, so even if obsolete it can still sting if needed.
Hey Aaron I enjoy your battlytics reports , but I was wandering if or when can you do custom builds and see a more accurate representation of a more optimized version of all mechs and vehicles. Like a custom Wvrn-8k or some others. I have used custom build mechs that seem way more efficient. like my wolverine on HBS BattleTech is 1 Er LL, 1 erML, x2 SSRM 6, and a MPL., endosteel, light eng. 260? (maybe) FF armor. thanks for the reports. wish you all had more Battle reports, i can watch those all day.
I quite like the 2xSRM6 javelin, just as a cheap mobile inferno carrier. I thought it would be easy to replace with something bigger, like 2xSRM6 at 6/9/6 is all I needed it to be so i could likely find something else to fill that role in the IS mechbase, no?
Well after alot of scouring, not really, in the Clan Invasion at least. More stuff comes out like it once MMLs become a thing, but like the IS had multiple omnimechs of their own in like 3055 thru 3058, but for whatever reason NEITHER the omni 6/9/6 Firestarter nor the omni 5/8/5 Blackhawk KU had SRM6 variants. Like, come on man, they're OMNIs, you're saying nobody in universe had a need for an uparmored Javelin to fire Infernos at Battle Armor that they modified their firestarter to do that?
There are two Solaris 7 mechs that can do that, but they're basically one-offs
Like, the Wolverine 7K is close enough and is quite good for that purpose, but as a pure pure 2x SRM6 boat for infernos on a mech you cannot really do much better than the Javelin, and that is why I love the 10N.
The 10F does nothing for me. It's a'aight but uninspired. Use the Jenner 7F for that role instead.
The idea of an omni Javelin has my heart fluttering a little.
@@DeathfromAboveWargaming IT IS DOABLE ON THE FIRESTARTER OMNI CHASSIS. WHY DID NOBODY DO IT? AAAA
Medium lasers are one of the best IS weapons of this era. The real strength of this mech is jumping and backshotting, which won’t be reflected in this analysis. Even assaults can’t take too many MLs to the back…
I will be controversial and say it is the best IS laser period! 🙂 Reliable, low weight, good damage:heat. Not like clan erMLas level but very good!
@ hmmm maybe this just reflects my playstyle, but I feel like I always end up in melee range at some point. That means the shorter range of IS pulse lasers isn’t so bad, and VSP lasers can be insane on brawlers… but I think IS MLs being the best is a completely fair take :)
4 ML on a mobile mech can be a real pain if the pilot knows how to use terrain to stay alive longer (hills for nullifying leg shots, woods for added TM or either of theose to block LOS completely) and can stick around to threaten rear shots or for later game clean up. It might not be impressive on paper, or the table terrain and pilot depending, but in the right circumstances and in the right hands it can punch WAY above its weight.
I'd play one, I think that the stats are skewed by no terrain
How long does it take to kill the Javelin? Lol
I’d have to go back and look - obviously there was some bias happening here
@ I wrote that before I saw the video. Not super surprised, fairly low dmg mech with high tmm and decent armour.
@TinBane yah - I expected more but then with the mlas hitting 4 different spots I can see how it would be low.
Real fast! Oh you mean the other one?