Classical Composer Reacts to Ghost Love Score (Nightwish) | The Daily Doug (Episode 52)
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2021
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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to Nightwish's Ghost Love Score. I'm using their live performance from 2013. This was the first time for me hearing anything from this band, and I was quite impressed with their sound...especially the lead singer.
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my new hobby is watching people discovering nightwish 😂😂😂😂
Same!🤘😁 With all of my favourite bands, actually. We can't go to concerts, but we can do this... I'm such a nerd... 😄
I'm a total YES fan, but when my friend said listen to Nightwish, I said ok.
Now I have listened to this song over a hundred times and can't stop listening. This song, I haven't looked up many of the other ones yet, but they are great!
It's glued to my body and soul, and yes, YES will always be there, but there is always a new experience. :)
Gheghe, I was just thinking the same.
And floor isn't a star because she is Dutch and we Dutch people don't do fame. Plus, i like it that Nightwish isn't a band I hear on the radio. Keeps it a little bit mystic.
Yup!
Mine too! ! And see them have their first Floor-gasm ......
Will he go down the "Beste Zangers with Floor" - road?
My ex-wife called Floor "pitchy" after hearing her sing. Anyway, ex-wife.
bahahahaha
That's hilarious. Floor, pitchy? She's a rock, i don't think I've ever heard her off pitch, even in the most complex vocal runs.
Hahahaha LOVED that 😂
hahahaha
LOL
His reaction at 3:00 when he discovers the awesomeness of Floor and looks at the camera is priceless. I got chills watching someone else discover what I once experienced.
Lmao! I show this video to many people and all of the people I show it to are not into the music I'm into. However I call this performance/song one of the best songs of all time along with a couple other. That's really hard to call a song The Best of all time or call a performance at best of all time but the look you see on his face is what I always get at the end of this song when she hits those high notes. This is definitely her greatest performance of all time by far and better than any performance in my opinion. Glad that it worked out for her on tour and especially under the pressure of following yet another night with singer and under pressure to be better than the first singer Tarja. Thanks for pointing it out for me to rewind and look again. Love it
when you’ve just had your first Floorgasm
Just saw lol!
I think pretty much every bloke that sees this for the first time is secretly, quietly falling in love ha ha!
If the sirens sang like that I'm not surprised the sailors crashed their ships on the rocks to get closer!
Tuomas Holopainen is probably the best composer in modern era of rock music. And Floor is absolutely one of the best singers of all time.
For sure, he definitely deserves more attention. I'm a big fan of Jeremy Soule and Hans Zimmer but I sincerely believe Tuomas could top those guys combined. He's an absolute genius when it comes to composing orchestral masterpieces.
She was always the singer the band wanted after they sacked Tarja, but couldn't get her at that time.
So the kettle has met with his pot?(Musically)
Agree and agree
@@melbman43 Yea despite how hard Anette tried, her voice just wasn't a good fit for Nightwish's sound. Tuomas tried to write around it and succeeded to an extend, but in the end it just didn't work out. Floor combines the best of what both Tarja and Anette had to offer, imo. On top of also bring able to growl. (not the best growl, but still pretty good.)
Most people sing what they can, Floor sings what she wants.
True.
please stop
Fact!
not completely true
Yes!!!!
Tuomas: "Floor, what's your voice range"?
Floor: "Yes".
I very much doubt that she can sing Osmin's aria from The Abduction from the Seraglio. :-D
@@Nikioko Don't know about that...she's already nailed down "O Mio Babbino Caro".
@@n5iln It's a bass aria. :-D
And shedid pretty well, but she didn't nail "O Mio Babbino Caro". But I don't blame her for that. In the end she is a cross-over singer but not an opera singer. Floor herself says in her master class that she knows that theory but she by far isn't as good as a professional opera singer. That's ok, because it isn't her genre and for a rock singer she does it very well.
You might take a look at Patricia Janeckova singing that aria. She won the Czech version of AGT ten years ago at the age of 12 and is now becoming one of the best sopranos in the world. At the time when she was singing "O Mio Babbino Caro", she was 13. And that's another class when it comes to opera singing. Today she is 22 and a lot better than back then.
God this comment is not original
@@Nikioko well Maybe, but she never covered that song, so u cant assume..... i guess professional opera singer cant combine symphonic metal and opera like floor does... People love her for her talent and how she brings her own flavor to this genre
If Emppu were to explode and his love and compassion scattered over the world there would never be a war again...
He's colloquially known as "the smiling man".
He's also super tiny which is just makes you wonder how so much positive energy can fit into such a little fellow.
He's a friggin legend.
He is one guy I would love to meet and visit with. I think he has a killer sense of humour and is very much a people person.
Floor sings
Daily Doug: "wow"
me: "you ain't heard nothing yet, pal"
Hello Doug Helvering ! Nightwish fans here, your reaction just appeared on our radar..
Welcome to the world of symphonic metal! And thank you for checking this legendary band, performing here at Wacken Open Air festival 2013, together with Floor Jansen, the 3rd and present female singer of the band, in front of a 82k+ audience.
Also a recent sad news - these days Marco Hietala, the bass player and male singer of the band, announced his retirement both from the band and the public life for the next year at least - we'll see what the future brings to us.
About the instrumental and vocal added parts - it's good to know they recorded their orchestral and vocal back tracks with prestigious institutions as London Philharmonic Orchestra. London's The Metro Voices choir group and London's Young Musicians Children's Choir as their regular partners.
As I saw you enjoyed this powerful performance of the band, together with the stellar vocals and charisma of our Dutch metal queen, Floor Jansen. Thanks for the composition analysis. It helps us fans better understand WHY we follow them. Hoping for more thorough future analysis, you have my subscription. Since this is your first Nightwish reaction, it is my duty to give you the short history of the band concentrated by Ann Waychoff, one of the biggest Nightwish fan who has since passed away (and I am doing this in her memory):
" Nightwish was started in 1996.They are considered a Symphonic Metal band, with a female main singer. They are from Finland.
Tuomas Holopainen, the keyboard player, composes and writes the lyrics for 95% of their music. Marco Hietala is the Bassist and vocals .And there is the guitarist Emppu Vuorinen . Then there is Troy Donockley from UK who is a multi-instrumentalist and vocals. Jukka Nevalainen is the drummer. In 2015 due to Jukka's health issues Kai Hahto became the drummer and as of now is a permanent addition.
Nightwish has had three singers. 1st one was Tarja Turunen (Operatic vocals). She was with them until 2005. The 2nd one was Anette Olzon from Sweden (Poppy, strong vocals). She was with them until 2012.The 3rd and current singer is Floor Jansen, from Netherlands (power, operatic, soprano.....most versatile) - you just heard her.
There are live concerts that you should use depending on what era. From Wishes to Eternity and End of an Era (Tarja), Montreux Festival live 2012 and Exit Festival (Anette), Live at Wacken 2013, Live at Wembley, Live at Tampere, Vehicle of Spirit, Decades live (Floor). I hope this helps.
I want to welcome you to the Nightwish community. I hope you like them enough to continue the journey. Believe me Nightwish will surprise you with their songs. You will never know what to expect. They are unbelievable live. I want to warn you that Nightwish fans are hard core. So be prepared. lol "
Hoping you'll continue this journey with us, I'll drop here a list of songs with the current lineup of the band you may like (please consider this list of links only as "a tip of the iceberg", an indication that they have a vast and very diverse repertoire, and not as something mandatory):
"Romanticide" live at Wacken 2013 (metal) ua-cam.com/video/zz_7OCCQlXs/v-deo.html
"Storytime" live at Wacken 2013 (uplifting vocals) ua-cam.com/video/pvkYwOJZONU/v-deo.html
"Ever Dream" live at Wacken 2013 (uplifting vocals) ua-cam.com/video/1Xi4n8dJcF8/v-deo.html
"Song Of Myself" live at Wacken 2013 (dark/metal) ua-cam.com/video/lQu5QjidHWg/v-deo.html
"Dead Boy's Poem" - live Buenos Aires 2018 (soulful ballad) ua-cam.com/video/S8E3L7ggLMM/v-deo.html
"Ghost River" live at Wacken 2013 (metal) ua-cam.com/video/05eitd-EA6I/v-deo.html
"Dark Chest Of Wonders" live at Wacken 2013 (metal, the greatest show opener ever) ua-cam.com/video/OvOD6xecph4/v-deo.html
"My Walden" live at Wembley 2015 (celtic / folk) ua-cam.com/video/knqeI807ZlY/v-deo.html
"Sleeping Sun" live at Tampere 2015 (ballad) ua-cam.com/video/rsotlzr9wNw/v-deo.html
"The Islander" live at Tampere 2015 (Marco in charge..) ua-cam.com/video/Zo8ncK_5kzc/v-deo.html
"Stargazer" live at Tampere 2015 (operatic vocals / metal) ua-cam.com/video/NhEuAPYm_Ug/v-deo.html
"Sahara" live at Tampa 2016 (middle eastern vibe) ua-cam.com/video/lTvYfLa4Wlk/v-deo.html
"Slaying The Dreamer" live at Buenos Aires 2018 (metal) ua-cam.com/video/wA44tjaP5n0/v-deo.html
"I Want My Tears Back" live at Buenos Aires 2018 (celtic / folk vibe) ua-cam.com/video/TBOdgxjb0kM/v-deo.html
"Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean" live In Buenos Aires 2018 (metal) ua-cam.com/video/t26r_vAYQ0Q/v-deo.html
"Weak Fantasy" live at Tampere 2015 (dark metal) ua-cam.com/video/AN239Pbqbjo/v-deo.html
"7 Days To The Wolves" live at Wembley 2015 (dark metal) ua-cam.com/video/XvsfwAPbWXc/v-deo.html
And if you want to hear Floor growling :) then try "Yours Is An Empty Hope" live at Mexico City in 2015 ua-cam.com/video/DuwY1d-KIss/v-deo.html
Last but not the least - they just released their 9th studio album on April 10th 2020 named "Human :||: Nature" - just take a peek to their official playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLihZ3gi5Yvzc0pfH2cbNKUUX8o3pb8eVg.html (for example: "Shoemaker", the 3rd track from this album, tells the story of Eugene Shoemaker, one of the founders of planetary science, whose ash was sent on the Moon after his death, as a tribute from the scientific community ..)
The links presented above are with the current singer of the band, Floor Jansen, since I'm a fan of the recent era of the band, with Floor as the singer. I have nothing against previous singers, but I do not consider myself the most suitable person to give specific recommendations from their repertoires.
** I think it's your place, fans of previous Nightwish eras, to present to the reactors the best recommendations with Tarja Turunen and Anette Olzon, because you know and appreciate them directly. I encourage you to add the best recommendations in the comments. **
That being said, I will add here the message left the other days by an old fan of the band, @Fabrizio Gorla: " To be fair to the old fanbase, you may want to include also some of these songs. Just be fair and don’t make a comparison if you don’t want an open war in your comment section.
* The Tarja era *:
The power of Tarja - Nightwish - Wishmaster [Live] - ua-cam.com/video/eJTlH521E6w/v-deo.html
The lyrics of this song are a treasure of citations from fantasy books.
The power of Tarja II - Nightwish - End Of All Hope Live at the Summer Breeze festival (2002) - ua-cam.com/video/ESlyjQl90p0/v-deo.html
A classic revisited - NIGHTWISH - The Phantom Of The Opera (OFFICIAL LIVE) - ua-cam.com/video/tL25rbnvM4o/v-deo.html
The old school - Nightwish - 01 Dark Chest Of Wonder (Live End Of An Era 2005 HD) - ua-cam.com/video/ROdKrGVVuI8/v-deo.html
The first big one - Nightwish - Ghost Love Score (LIVE) - ua-cam.com/video/YODCM26JXOY/v-deo.html
Mesmerizing - Nightwish - The Siren (DVD End Of An Era) HD - ua-cam.com/video/LUy8T_3kieI/v-deo.html
@DeeDee80: Gabriel, would be good to add in the Tarja list "Pharaoh Sails To Orion" ua-cam.com/video/ZpkH187t5Mk/v-deo.html . It's one of the best.
@Fabrizio Gorla: * The Anette era *:
NIGHTWISH: "Scaretale" (OFFICIAL LIVE) - ua-cam.com/video/5EmpS8E7d30/v-deo.html
Nightwish - Storytime (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) - ua-cam.com/video/09MTDBb8qro/v-deo.html
NIGHTWISH - Bye Bye Beautiful (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) - ua-cam.com/video/hTdhXxxWREo/v-deo.html
NIGHTWISH - Amaranth (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) - ua-cam.com/video/GdZn7k5rZLQ/v-deo.html
* Bonus track *:
Tarja Turunen & Floor Jansen 'Over the hills' MFVF XI Wieze, Belguim 20/10/13 - ua-cam.com/video/57WsNYItbSU/v-deo.html "
You can also react to Floor Jansen "tapping" other musical genres in Beste Zangers 2019 (TV show from Netherlands) here is a playlist made by Floor herself (start listen it in reverse order..): ua-cam.com/play/PL8iSYWeQhlimgUnWw1FDdiJN0msPzqpLo.html
To understand better the context of this show you should visit also Jenniezelf's YT channel (En subtitled materials): ua-cam.com/users/jenniezelf
For entire episodes of the show with En translation, you should check Denise Hofs's DM channel: www.dailymotion.com/xpinkeu/videos
In these pandemic times, Floor Jansen has decided to make covers for us, which you can find on her YT channel ua-cam.com/channels/xy4Ijz2QKXXJaREs-isxwA.html - there are already 5 covers there, the first is "Let It Go" from "Frozen" (11 weeks ago, already over 2.076M views), the second - "Alone" from "Heart" , released 9 weeks ago (you nailed that one!..) - 908K and counting. Then 7 weeks ago she dropped the third cover, in Dutch: "Is Dit Nou Later" from Stef Bos - already 243K views. Just before Christmas she made a powerful cover of "Ave Maria" - already 238K views. Four weeks ago she added a remastered / remixed version of the first one, "Let It Go" - already 143K. Then three weeks ago she added to the list a powerful cover of "Adagio" by Lara Fabian (!!!) - 282K views now..
Thank you! Waiting for more Nightwish reactions. All the best from RO. Stay safe.
Wow! Thanks for this great info. I'll work through it as I'm able. My best to you.
@@Doug.Helvering With pleasure. You're really good at explaining the composition. Keep doing that 👍 Nightwish is a mine of gold.
@@Doug.Helvering Follow this Gabriel path and enjoy
Now this is some good information!
Omfg, What a die hard fan lmfao
"In the beginning God created Music, and said it was good"
"Next he created Nightwish and said it was excellent"
"He then created Floor Jansen and dropped his microphone, for he had created perfection"
Same apply to Queen and Freddie mercury, IMO
@@danielardeleanu8310 Man if only he was alive to experience his influence!
@@Imurai I saw a fan mixed video duet of Freddy and Floor. I must say, it was rather well done.
Hahahaha, this made me smile. Thank you!
well, HE created Floor Jansen BEFORE Nightwish
Every time I hear Floor singing out those long notes I tear up. God damn it’s just pure.
Dude, same. I just can't help it.
Same. Cant help it. Its almost like a reflex at this point. Every time.
I don't know what it is hitting in my soul, but Holy fucking shit. It hits hard and deep.
No matter how many times I hear this song, i get chills every time ❤️
You mentioned Heart. The singer of Nightwish, Floor Jansen, has a cover on her youtube channel of 'Alone', by Heart.
You know, maybe something to check out at some point.
And that recent one is here third recording of it afaik. One in here After Forever period, and one in early Nightwish period
I second this suggestion
I'm 74. Listened primarily to classical my whole life. Started composing this past April. Discovered symphonic metal about three years ago, thanks to Nightwish. Best band on the planet (Vienna phil not relevant here ;).
I'm 65. My son was an audio engineer and a metal head. He ended his life in September on his birthday. I saw an online reference of his regarding Nightwish. I can't stop listening to Nightwish. The pain won't ever go away...... I miss him so.
@@Hemmer5 So sorry. Music is good. Music does not judge.
I am 77. Just a few weeka ago ,my children told me about NW. Now, I am totally stuck.
65 here, well into all the bands in my teens, saw loads in the 70's. Music went downhill until the 90's, then it started again. I chanced on Nightwish about a year ago, and Within Temptation - Ice Queen yesterday ua-cam.com/video/tcH4EsxREto/v-deo.html . I ordered Mother Earth today, first CD I have bought in 15 years?
Good on yer!
"She is a star" ... She is not
FLOOR IS THE VALKYRIE GODDESS
Sooo, I had never heard of Nightwish before I stumbled onto this reaction video about a month ago and I was blown away (thanks Doug, for bringing them into my life). They are so different from the music I usually listen to. But now, after weeks of listening to their music, I just bought tickets to see them perform at the end of the year!!! So freaking excited for that. Guess I'm part of the army now :) :)
Welcome soldier
@@AlexanderWeixelbaumer thanks man :)
Not the golf player I presume??
he needs to see "Epica: Sancta Terra" LIVE. Floor and Simonne
Definitely. And good old "Nightwish - Phantom of the Opera (End of Era)" with Tarja and epic Marko (that's the baseplayers who also sings quite impressively)
Yes
Stabat mater dolorosa from the same show. (Epica: Retrospect)
Scratch that, he needs to see Epica... Just Epica, in general.
@@dantereinhardt6911 Well, then we can just move on to the Gathering, the whole TG25 concert :-)
Greatest show on Earth, live at tampere.. I think you will enjoy that one more, a lot more composition and arrangements, and more instruments. This should be your next Nightwish reaction, I would love to hear your analysis on that one. Thanks for the great reaction
Exactly what I was thinking. As a classical composer Doug does not really need to get a feel for the band first before delving into the more epic Nightwish works. Note: the beginning of "The Greatest Show on Earth" has a bit of Phillip Glass influence feel.
Noooooo! The Studio version.. that's where you can here the orchestration track much more clearly and that is what classical composer should hear also...
Phantom of the Opera...
maybe the Poet and the Pendulum too
@@JanneTarhanen I concur with this. I find Greatest Show On Earth to be the ONLY Nightwish song I have heard in which I prefer the studio version of. It is much easier to hear everything in the studio version.
The facial expressions of people first hearing Nightwish is priceless... i love it!
Pretty much every person who loves music has the same reaction to Floor. "Why have I never seen her before?"
When he calls her a 'star y'all' less than two minutes in, you know the final minute is going to - ... *Floor* him.
Yeah there's dat stank face. You know it's good when dat stank face makes an appearance.
FLOORgasm.
Is that feeling after the note, where you don’t know what to do, cry? Stop breathing? It is an INSANE feeling
Yeah,well,let's be honest.This song is one of the most powerful,inspiring and moving songs EVER written. Period.And Floor Jansen? She is a Goddess.
It is. But in the end it doesn't top Bohemian Rhapsody. I would put it in the range of And Then There Was Silence by Blind Guardian.
Goddess, or a Valkyrie leading her Viking warband?. :)
Yeah it's nice... but ever written? :D
You have yet to hear most music in the world :)
@@Mtaalas Exactly. That's what I am always saying when people come up with Floor Jansen being the best singer in the world or out of this world. ;-)
@@Mtaalas I have 20.000 albums in my collection,I have heard a lot.
"She's a rock star" ..... naaaahhh ...... she is a valkyrie goddess of metal.
Accurate!
well said
and tarya is queen of goddess
She's not a rock star ... she's Floor fucking Jansen... :-P
well, should been a red head or a blond then :P
Hobby composer here who's done some metal in the past... the thing with that chord progression is that it IS powerful. It's basically THE sound of metal music.
If you stray away from that, you stray away from what metal fans want and like to hear. Pop has it's "the chord progression" metal has it's own etc.
If you want to hear metal using a bit different progressions you start to go towards neo-classical metal, but there again harmonic minor rules over.
I've tried to write neo-classical and it gives you more freedom for expression, but there just are things you can't avoid even if you want to. The sound of metal has certain demands :D
Sure, I've done songs with different progressions in metal style, but it's hard to avoid without it going to another sub-genre of metal like folk or neo-classical or something.... :)
(You can check my bad metal attempts by names: "Icchan - Obsolete Hero", and "Icchan - Lands Of Green". They're on YT freely available.)
There is no reason to call your metal attempts "bad". I listened to the first one and it is pretty badass. Good job! The only thing wrong with it is the opening keyboard instrument sounds like one song from the band Styx. ;)
VERY good. Don't diminish your work. It is very good!
Heard both, like the first very much.
You ain't seen anything yet , check out the song "Storytime" from the same show Wacken 2013. This will blow you away , The singer is (Floor Jansen) she has a u tube channel and has covers, and she's a vocal instructor & has master classes on there also
I disagree. If you've seen this performance of ghost love score, you have seen the best there is in this world.
Ah there you ARE Robert! The Lame Dad here in his personal account! Glad you found The Daily Doug, he has a GREAT show for commenting!
Now to get Doug doing a LOT more NW! lol
Well, I guess we should go straight to The Greatest Show on Earth performed in Tampere now😂😂🙌🙌
Watching people react to "Ghost Love Score," or to "Pisces"by Jinjer, has to be one of the best ways to pass the time.
I’ve listened to this hundreds of times and yet it’s goosebumps and tears every time. Floor is a goddess!
Haven't listened to it hundreds of times. At least dozens though. And yea, same here. When I really get into the song I always get goosebumps, and tears in my eyes at certain parts.
Some of their more diverse compositions would be "the greatest show on earth" and "the poet and the Pendulum." You can catch some of the videos from their performances subtitled, even though they are all in English, it helps hearing the exact lyrics.
Was about to say the same...
Believe some of the others might be too flat or mainstream for him to be challenging?
While I agree, for Greatest you need to understand the lyrics - what the words mean. And for Poet you need to research the events that lead up to it. If not you're only reacting to the arrangement - while important - it's nowhere close as important as the lyrics. Those are masterpieces of art, and I usually suggest getting into and understanding the artist first.
If he's up for an analytical challenge, I'd suggest When The Water Breaks progressive track composed and performed live by Liquid Tension Experiment:
ua-cam.com/video/aSU0xBGfkfg/v-deo.html
Oh, and from the comments there I just learned that LTE3 is a thing. Holy crap.
Back to Nightwish. Greatest and Poet are masterpieces, but shouldn't come early to reactioneers (?).
@@gottagowork Totally agree. Loads of background needed for the Poet. Otherwise he will miss most of it. Like most reactors...
I've noticed some discrepancies between the subtitles and the actual lyrics, including in GLS. It's annoying, but hey, I obviously don't run the world, or Floor would be recognized worldwide as the talent she is.
The keyboardist is the composer/writer for 90% of NW songs. Believe me when I tell you not all of their sings use the minor 3rd. They are all quite unique and he is immensely talented. Great reaction. Gabriel will be along soon to give you the full scoop on this amazing band!
Well they don't tend to be crazy complicated musically because generally they're aiming to showcase the vocalist, so even if they could play more complex lines that would kind of defeat the point a lot of the time. Although they do have some more complicated fare. But like, if you're a vocalist focused band, you want the focus to be on the vocal line, not on the guitarist shredding in the background.
Which isn't like a diss on them at all, it's just saying that like the focus is supposed to be the vocalist, so the musicians are probably not shredding as much face as they can, even on their shreddier pieces.
Gabriel will have problems with posting the links. ;-)
I've listened to this song so many times... Yet I still got chills when Floor started singing. I love this woman, the whole band so deeply. They're my fav for almost 15 years now.
The drums in this song are great. My man really holds it down.
Floor of course steals the show, but the drumming is superb.
Jukka is prob on of my fave drummers
Hes fkin killin it!!!!
You want to see the live version of Nightwish doing the greatest show on earth its outstanding,
I have listened to this song a thousand times.. and still amaze me.
Floor Jansen rules!!!
regina ivanova nyampe tuh kalo mau cover. imo 😁
Ah, so this is where the rest of the Nightwish Army went. I'm always 5 days behind y'all 😅
I’m 6 months behind lol oh well I will catch up eventually
Minor 1-6-7-1 is the metal sound lol.
I was thinking the same...
Right?/? Offers a great delivery to what's to come and works for most. At least he continued to say that he likes it he just was questioning why everyone does that because there are other ways to give the same feel other than using that method. However I don't care. I like this feel especially in this song. Lol
I hear the Nightwish Army coming...
No shit !!
Hope not. I like Nightwish but we've had enough reactions to last a lifetime.
@@PJBonoVox I agree if talking about "casual reactors", but in the case of a real composer/musician I think they can be interesting, adding some knowledge for all of us.
I really appreciate competent reactions.
@@Fabi72g Yeah, you're probably right. I just want this guy to diversify because he's obviously got a tremendous amount of musical knowledge to impart.
Interesting...
Remember, this is only ONE of their songs - not all their songs have the same structure/composition, unlike many pop/rock bands with cookie-cutter songs.
I’ve actually heard several songwriter/composers on here, say that Nightwish is one of the bands who’s songs vary the most in composition and style - while still maintaining a unique common “flavour”.
Also, this song is 17 years old, so the band’s composer/songwriter (the keyboardist) has evolved quite a bit since then ;)
Normally people would now recommend a bunch of their other “best of” (there are soo many, lol), before deeming you ready for on of their other two long major epics.
However, since you’re specifically looking at structure and composition, and seem to both appreciate and “need” more complex compositions, I’d recommend that you now try and experience “The Greatest Show On Earth” - Live from Tampere :)
It’s about the whole evolution of life on earth, has Richard Dawkins speaking on it, and is a whopping 24 minutes long. It is a masterpiece lyrically and musically, and I think you’d really love it (btw, there's a subtitled version here on UA-cam).
Lastly, I gotta say that I’m really surprised by you saying that you had a hard time understanding what Floor was singing - and blaming Floor’s pronunciation for that.
That puzzles me, since every single vocalist (contemporary and classical), vocal coach, musician, and songwriter that that I've seen react to Floor’s singing (and there’s been a lot, since I’m rather obsessed, lol) - both with- and without the band - think that she has EXCELLENT diction.
Now, I don’t know your background, but I’m wondering if you’re simply not experienced listening to metal, and thus not used to “separating out” the vocal from that huge wall of sound that it’s accompanied by?!
Anyway, it was just a thought (and not meant as criticism) - because that statement literally made me go “WTF?!”, lol.
If you like Floor Jansen vocals, listen to her do Phantom of the Opera with Henk Poort
Oh yeah on that show I can't understand. They were amazing.
YESSSS!!!!!!!
Yes, that was one of the highlights of Dutch television of the last ten years!
A must see/hear/experience!
@@marcia3625 The concept of the show is that they bring together singers from different genres and have them sing songs of each other or songs that they themselves like from others. The singer who does the cover usually does so in his/her own genre. Henk Poort is a musical star known for Phantom of the opera, among other things. This is how the duet came about. The show is simply called "best singers".
Honestly Mr. Doug, I admire you for your high level of expertise on harmony and music theory in general. It's the first time that I see someone analysing a piece of music so deeply on the spot.
“She’s a rock star y’all”
Biggest understatement ever uttered!
Floor is very versatile, she did all kind of songs on the 2019 season of the show "Beste zangers". One epic song she did was the Phantom of the opera, she did it with the actual Dutch Phantom Henk Poort who is a well known classical singer. ua-cam.com/video/plCScjvDOJM/v-deo.html
Just wish to say: This is the best reaction ever to a metal song, it's amazing to see an expert talking about the geniality of these songs. Thank you very much for this content Doug, for real.
Wow Doug, I don't often comment on videos but this has been a triple-treat. I discovered your channel a few days ago and have loved rediscovering old favorites through your insight. I also have never heard Nightwish and was blown away by those vocals, nice pipes! As a chaser, I played at Wacken years ago and this brings back so many good memories, what a wonderful friendly venue. I'm also in awe and simultaneously envious of your ear.
Floor Jansen is the third singer since late 2012. This concert only months after she started singing with them. She nailed every song by previous two singers and made them her own. Try live performance of The Greatest Show On Earth at Tampere 2015.
To see another side of Floor, take a look at (Floor Jansen & Henk Poort - Phantom Of The Opera | Beste Zangers 2019)
Exactly, @Doug Helvering, go for her version of the Phantom...
Floor Jansen (pronounced Yansen) has been around for a long time. She was about 32 for this concert and had been a frontwoman since she was 16. Her previous bands were After Forever then her own band called ReVamp before joining Nightwish in 2012. She also has some great songs she sang on a Dutch TV show called Beste Zangers from 2019. IMHO she's the best female singer alive now. She'll be turning 40 on Feb 21st this year. BTW, Nightwish typically has backtracks of the London Philharmonic and their choir.
Love the reaction! And respect for your musical knowledge and talent!
I don't know if anyone has told you yet, but the orchestral and choral tracks for Nightwish are actually recorded by the London Philharmonic Orchestra and Metro Voices Choir. Tuomas Holopainen (keyboardist) is the composer of almost all their music and has been nicknamed the metal Mozart. Regarding the fairly standard progressions in this song, that is not typical of their music. I'd recommend "Song of Myself" next. Not only does it demonstrate some really clever songwriting, but it will also introduce you to the vocal stylings of bassist Marko Heitala (who sadly announced he was stepping away from music a few weeks ago), and you'll see why many of us consider him to be as good of a singer as Floor.
Great reaction! Something you will quickly learn if you keep reacting to Nightwish is, this is but a small sample of their oeuvre, as they cover everything from folk, rock, trash metal, jazz, etc. with a metal bend to it backed by orchestra & choir. Tuomas the keyboardist is the composer of most of the music and also does the arrangements with co-arranger Pip Williams. They record the backing tracks with the London Philharmonic orchestra and choir. Saw the engineer on their 2015 album mention in a video that they record each group of instruments separately, so Tuomas can re-arrange them later for live performances and he said that for their most complex song, The Greatest Show On Earth, that they had to record over 600 tracks.
I am sure that Nightwish fans will recommend plenty of performances to react to, so I will not put the emphasis on that, instead I will just mention that if the song was performed at Wacken 2013, this show has by far the best audio mix, followed closely by Wembley 2015, then Buenos Aires 2018 and finally Tampere 2015 (Except for The Greatest Show On Earth which is the most spectacular at Tampere).
I would also suggest the solo work of Tuomas Music Inspired by the Life and Times of Scrooge, especially the song A Lifetime Of Adventure and also Nightwish's latest double album Human Nature, for which the second disc is entirely a 31 minutes, 8 part instrumental piece, with full orchestra and choir called All the Works of Nature Which Adorn the World.
So excited for your first time discovering symphonic metal in general and this band and this song specifically - great intro to the genre!
Good reaction vid!! Also am impressed with your knowledge of theory and relative pitch💪
This rock star is the Dutch queen of symphonic metal, Floor Jansen (Yahn-sen). Tuomas the keyboardist composes most of the music and lyrics for Nightwish, He is very influenced by movie scores. A favorite composer is Hans Zimmer of Pirates of the Caribbean fame. The lyrics are very poetic in style and were accessible in the captions. Loved your analysis! It seems you have perfect pitch my friend? See you soon I hope? Peace. 🎶🎶🎶😊👍✌
Hey Doug! I'm a big nightwish fan, so I'm happy to see you kinda diving into this band. I won't give any further suggestions for Nightwish, as I'm sure many other commenters will have all the same suggestions I'd give, so how about something not Nightwish?
Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope. An interesting fact about this song that might nudge you towards listening to it is that it is(was?) studied at the Sydney Conservatorium in Australia. The professor teaching it, Matthew Hindson, said this: "I will be presenting 'And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope' to the composition students at the Conservatorium next semester as an exemplar in structure, mixing timbres, meters, modes, how to approach virtuosity, sound and noise, extended performance and techniques."
It's essential Metal listening, in my opinion.
Doug: "Hello!"
The Netherlands: "You're welcome."
your reactions are the best, i appreciate the asnalytics and the competence, good job
The DVD is called “Showtime Storytime” and yes, it is fun to watch. Anything from that Wacken 2013 show is great, but I’d especially recommend Song of Myself, Storytime, Romanticide, and Everdream. You’ll see they’re pretty diverse...not all of their songs sound like this one, but Floor...the singer...always sounds incredible. In fact, this song you just watched was song #13 of 15 in the set, so by the time she sang this, she’d already been singing for 90-ish minutes.
The only issue with that DVD is the whole show is sped up ever so slightly for some reason, maybe runtime. But if you know their music it really throws you off.
@@shorey66 that’s kind of a misleading statement. The DVD release was the proper speed. The playback matches the live recording. The Blu-ray release had a playback that was about 5% slower than actually recorded. See below examples from Romanticide: as soon as Floors vocal lines start you can hear the artificial stretch to her melodies from the slower speed. Now maybe the original studio recordings from Tarja’s era was a slower BPM for her vocal style and Tuomas decided to increase the BPM for Floor’s vocal style; but that’s what it means to arrange music for the best overall sound with all parts considered.
ua-cam.com/video/mr61tTHjJ2k/v-deo.html (slowed)
ua-cam.com/video/zz_7OCCQlXs/v-deo.html (correct)
ua-cam.com/video/cAwtzi7Q3Bk/v-deo.html (full concert, 1080p, correct speed)
@@pro-v7500 ahhh. Maybe it was the Blu-ray I saw. I remember the speed being jarring.
@@shorey66 for sure. The speed change is minor enough to not sound strange to someone listening to NW for the first time, but definitely jarring if you’ve heard the song before. I always cringe just a little bit in the inside when a reactor picks one of those slow versions without knowing.
@@pro-v7500 so was the DVD ok, only the Blu-ray showed down?
I felt Nightwish was coming, it's the natural progression, classic music + metal = symphonic metal, and which better band to react than Nightwish?
haggard. haggard would be better to react to, much larger symphonic element.
It is the progression of Progressive Metal which is the progression of Progressive Rock which is the progression of classical music and rock music.
Or in other words:
Pop is the progression of folk music, rock is the progression of classical art music and hip hop is the progression of vulgarity.
Just found your channel today. This is the sixth reaction of yours I've watched and will watch atleast two more right away. You have a good channel.
You may have already looked up the lyrics, but the important parts are the outro, and the two instances earlier in the song where this part was introduced. Each time, the choir sings the four lines while the lead sings the first line over the top of it. First two times it crops up:
"My fall will be for you
My love will be in you
If you be the one to cut me
I'll bleed forever"
Then in the outro is changes slightly to:
"My fall will be for you
My love will be in you
You were the one to cut me
So I’ll bleed forever"
This live version goes more for the performance aspect, so it is easier to hear in the studio version with their original singer. When I listen to it, close my eyes and let the song wash over me, by the time it hits that outro the words are hitting right in the feels, and if it doesn't choke you up just a little bit no matter how often you hear it then your soul is dead :)
Thanks, Doug.The type of reaction I look for through the dozens of reactions to GLS.
Classically trained singer here (and huge old guy Nightwish fan) and I thoroughly enjoyed your look at it!
Can you hear them? The rumble in the deep...the drums of comments...the pings of views...they are coming...
Dutch devision reporting for duty
American regiment reporting, formally of Helsinki Company
Dutch east bataljon reporting for duty! Great reaction. Get ready for a journey!
Dutch West Bataljon reporting for duty
Dutch center bataljon reporting for duty..... please try more songs, they`re really worth it.
Scottish division in Belgium reporting in!
If I just remember right, Hans Zimmer is Holopainen's (the composer of Nightwish) one of the biggest inspirations so there actually might be some Zimmer-vibes over there (Pirates of Caribbean)
Yes, Hans Zimmer and Disney.
When composers hear Floor it literally changes their beliefs about what they could ask a singer to do. It changes music.
Possibly also true for a few others but Floor expands the possibilities in several directions.
Our valkyrie Floor is the most talented vocalist on the planet!
No doubt about that😃
miley cyrus can go and retire xD
Tatiana from Jinjer says hi :)
Both ridiculously talented.
You forgot the "one of" between "is" and "the". Then the sentence is correct. Without, it is silly.
Ah you meant solar system, just ask Shoemaker 😉
If you’d like to check more prog metal, I can suggest checking out Ayreon. Very good project by Dutch composer Arjen Lucassen with lots of guest vocalists, and all of them are metal stars :)
Ayreon - The day that the world breaks down 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@@inkubuzz Live version (Ayreon Universe) !
Yes sir! That's the reaction I expected and you did not disappoint 👌
Private Sarah of the NWA, Texas division, reporting for duty!
I love the breakdown on chord progressions you did, Doug! I've seen DOZENS of these reactions and I learned something here! Thank you for that! ❤️
Yes, this concert dvd ("Showtime, Storytime") is the best live show that i've ever seen. Greetings from Finland! ⛄👍
Yes, have this on BluRay............OUTSTANDING !!
Song of Myself, Storytime, from the same concert..... Hell any song from this concert is amazing.
Doug, your knowledge of music is so impressive. Really enjoy your channel!
new drinking game:
drink everytime doug says "minor"
good luck!
Now, you’re delving into “Prog- Metal”. Excellent musicianship. Give a listen to Dream Theater. Amazing Prog-Metal group. Metropolis Pt. 1, My Glass Prison, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, The Dance of Eternity - just to name a few. Their library is immense.
YES - THIS. Definitely. MY favorite album is The Astonishing
Yeah, I think DT would give him a level of musicianship he's used to hearing but with a metal bent.
you forget Ayreon
Agree with these suggestions, great music an on it's own level
Floor is more than just a "Rock Star", she is the best vocalist on earth. Keep listening, you will see.
My Bucket List of Performances would be to have Floor and Dimash collaborate, esp. in a live show. Holy Sh*t, the stage would probably melt from the sheer talent. ;-)
She is great, no doubt about that, but she is definitely not the best vocalist on earth. Get out of you niche and learn some more of the world of music. There is a whole big world to discover when you open your eyes and ears.
Nikioko - she is the best female vocalist on earth because of her versatility, technique and presence... perhaps not the best in some niches, but overall, there is literally no one that is able to beat her... proof us wrong...
@@janjanssen9629 Well, you're free to have your own opinion. Glad you enjoy this privilege. I just don't like you stating it as if it was a fact.
pawelm11 - it is in fact a fact, prove me wrong...
Hi Doug. A great reaction.... I really enjoyed listening to your commentary.
"Hello!" That was great, watching people's first reaction to Floor (especially in this song) is always rewarding.
"Guys, learn some new progressions"............. within seconds, band proceeds to take off into several different sections of new progressions and key changes. Goes unnoticed.
Meh another modulation blablabla
Yea, dick move to show his wannabe elite cravings.
@@robonguitarnz Time to drop the tribalism and accept that someone doesn't idolize something the same as you do.
Gotta love seeing the musically illiterate people get offended by someone able to break down their favorite music
He just said that about the way they go back to the root note ! Just that progression is what he thinks is over played in the metal realm which is true actually!
Yes! Great reaction and analysis! Seems like you have perfect pitch, am I right? It's nice for a change to learn a bit more about the song itself and its harmonic structure, rather than just watching a plain reaction video. Nothing against those but I really enjoyed your insights on the music. Thanks and please do more! :)
I don't have perfect pitch...I have good relative pitch, and I usually tune up before doing one of these reactions...so that I have a fresh tonal reference.
@@Doug.Helvering hey Doug we NW fans appreciate the most when music professionals react to the greatest band /singer especially when they focus on the music,just an fyi reactor tip: after a pause please go back a bit before resuming for song continuity especially in mid vocal,your viewers will appreciate it :) ,fyi NW has the largest and most passionate fanbase on YT & this song is the most reacted to on YT ,some top reactors with 2.5 million views. cheers oh btw this song is but a small taste of their capabilities and Floor's amazing voice.
@@Doug.Helvering oh you didnt , NW & Floor is on a whole other level than Evanescence & Amy Lee
@@Doug.Helvering Heart ? Floor did this a cpl months ago :Alone - Heart (cover by Floor Jansen)
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@@Doug.Helvering that you said “fresh tonal reference “ proves her point. You have a great professional perspective that fans will appreciate and wait to hear.
Dude some of your reactions are priceless. Love it.
As a violinist and composer with a classical background, I’m not as familiar with metal, but have always been a fan of what little of it I’ve heard. Behind the long hair, theater, and fantastic outfits are very well produced and performed compositions. In fact, I showed one of my students some similarities between Bach and metal and it blew his mind. I wouldn’t be surprised if some or all of these artists spent more than a few years immersed in classical training either. Thanks for sharing your reaction!
Hey! Violinist and composer here as well, but with a deep and abiding love of metal. I think the thing that I love most about the genre is that it seems to be one of the last real bastions of talented, technical players. A lot of modern rap and pop simply doesn't require the composing and instrumental talent that metal does, especially if you're going to be like Nightwish and have your music be accompanied by the London Philharmonic Orchestra.
The sheet music for Ghost Love Score is also fascinating because you can see the incredible talent of the composer weaving a Finnish metal band into a classical opera.
@@vsGoliath96 I’ll be sure to them a good listen! Thanks!
Perhaps you would like to listen to Tina S playing a metalized version of the third movement from Moonlight Sonata. It has over 32 million views. It was transcribed for electric guitar. She averages 7 notes a second for 6 minutes, all the arpeggios are tapped and she slides while tapping. The video is done in one take and is uncut and unedited . She does not drop a note and has flawless technique
You can find her here ua-cam.com/video/o6rBK0BqL2w/v-deo.html
In all she has 16 videos with over 160 million views. She specializes in playing technically difficult guitar solos. She has not posted anything in the last 4 to 5 years
@@jsegal8385 Yes, I saw her brilliant performance when it was first released! Just fantastic. I hope she’s continuing with her music on some level.
This live version is amazing but it's a little easier to hear all of the orchestral parts on the studio album (different singer who you can check out on their live performance of Phantom of the Opera)
You ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to Nightwish, seriously!
Doug! I'm so happy you got to check this one out. I was fortunate to see Floor once live with her previous band After Forever many moons ago, but even on a tiny stage with maybe 2 dozen people in the crowd, she had such presence and sang her heart out.
I love that you mentioned the color that Floor brings with her voice. You should also check out this song with the original vocalist, Tarja Turunen. She has more of a traditional operatic voice, but brings different "color" to this song that I think is as equally impressive and enjoyable, just in a different way. Also the lyrics are just as beautiful as the song! Definitely give those a read!
The daily Doug has just been Floored!!!
"Great sound!" The Nightwish army says "Just wait." Try Romanticide from the same concert
You should listen to song "The Phantom of the Opera" by Nightwish, and by Iron Maiden too. Love from Serbia. 💕🇷🇸🤘
It's worth mentioning the Nightwish Phantom is from the musical, but Iron Maiden's Phantom pre-dates the musical and is a completely different song.
Completely different songs but both very good
Also, the Nightwish version of Phantom was performed by Tarja, the first singer of the band. Different but still epic.
Also the Floor Janson and Nick Porte from Best Zangers performing Phantom, an amazing rendition.
@@babybalrog henk poort
This is one of those songs that gives me goosebumps even though I can't understand much of the lyrics.
Great reaction :)
of course the reason that Tomas dropped the last so much lower ,as you noticed, was to give her room to climb to that last note. Had to be a marathon for the drummer too.
this is gonna be fun, i wonder how many people will actually recommend floors version of heart :)
Haha, sorry I have to mention this - Heart's Alone is also a cover from I-Ten ;) - and Floor's version is fantastic of course!
@@bobsuisse2 she needs to clean it up like she did Frozen
Epica next: Design your Universe from live Retrospect concert. I really want to know how you react to the full orchestra plus metal plus choir!!!
Watching this made me very happy. Great job, man. 👏👏👏
Nightwish Army Alaska US Division checking in...loved your analysis! Subscribed. Hope to see more from you...I see Gabriel has already given you an introduction to the band and the Army...keep 'em coming and I'll be here to watch! 😉
Wait until he finds out that Floor was only with the band less than a year when this was recorded.
Floor stands somewhat over 6 feet tall (in bare feet), plus, she's wearing 5 inch heels here.....audience was 82,000
Wacken is a small village in my home state of Schleswig-Holstein in Germany having usually every year a huge metal festival, the whole village takes part in helping.
Dude. I LOVE you're reviews. As a serious hobby guitarist and being lazy with music theory, hearing you describe what is happening is a joy. Thank you.
Wow her voice is amazing. Words don't even do it justice
Not just a rock star, she’s our Charismatic Dutch Metal Valkyrie Goddess ❣️
Goosebumps all the time, love Nightwish. Thanks for a different perspective on these reactions compared to just vocal coaches doing them (coming from a trumpet band kid) ! First vid here
this is one of those songs that gives me the chills every time i listen to it 👍