Hummer is a great tune, damn if think about it there are no skip tracks on Siamese Dream....just such a fantastic album. This album could come out today and hit hard.
@@jp1170 Its really great... but the 90s were insane, arguably best decade ever (with the 60s a worthy contender), so that seems like a huge call. I respect it, but would have to think.
The whole "Siamese Dream Sound" is like a warm blanket of thick fuzz and distortion. Speaking of the very distinctive guitar tone. A lot of credit to Jimmy Chamberlin on drums as well. This isn't a technically complex song, but the tastefulness with which he plays really helps move this classic along, especially in the builds.
I'm actually a little surprised at how popular this song is standing on its own. It feels like the context of it in the album is so important but I have been proven wrong time and time again and apparently it's just a universal banger.
@@whatdothlife4660 I agree, to me it's just a good album track...but that tells you right there that this is a masterpiece of an album because there are so many other tracks on it that stand out more !
They nailed the "wall of sound" guitars, but by their own admission borrowed it from "my bloody valentine" (not to be confused with early 00s emo shit bands that had similar names, a late 80s shoegaze band).
The breathy style of vocals came from the Shoegaze genre which both Deftones and Smashing pumpkins are heavily influenced. I haven't heard anyone say it's cheesy and in fact Shoegaze was a well respected genre among metal fans.
The guitar sound comes from the shoegaze genre. My Bloody Valentine is the best example, especially their album Loveless. They were the pioneers of this kind of guitar sound. Love that style. Powerful, beautiful, atmospheric, emotional
@@wizards_web_ Welcome to the world of shoegaze! Next album I’d recommend would be Souvlaki by Slowdive. Also one of the most pioneering albums in the genre. I actually like Slowdive even more than My Bloody Valentine. Even more beautiful to me, more melancholic and I like their melodies more. Stunning album too. My personal favourite shoegaze song is Akira by Deafcult, they’re an Australian Shoegaze band. That track and the EP it’s from (Deafcult) and their first album (Auras) are beautiful albums. Pretty rocked out with a lot of energy but still very nostalgic and beautiful. I recommend
I second this. You are totally right! The name of the genre is derived from the how the guitarists while performing on stage would always be looking down at their pedal boards due to the amount of pedals used to achieve this "wall of sound" effect, hence the term "shoegaze". The album Loveless as you said is a staple and a must-listen! I hope Ryan and George check it out some day and explore more shoegaze and noise rock. If they ever do something like Dinosaur Jr, that would be an absolute dream.
I'd probably say the really energised moment for bands was more like 89-94. By 96/97 I think the whole scene became kind of soulless and over commercialised. I think by that time "the cool scene" had switched to uk trip hop and electronic stuff. But I may just be super nostalgic for 89-94.
Agree it started late 80s, for me the best peaked in 93 and became overly commercialized after that. Regardless of specific timing, the sentiment is the same. ❤
@@billbrasky1288 That's fair and it might be fun to list some favorites. My criteria is the change or influence on music, and the consistency / quality, of the album. From the early 90s, Nevermind, Ten and Siamese Dream are (probably?) my top three. I know each might sound cliché but they were all game-changers. I'm sure someone could point out another equally groundbreaking album(s).
1991 was the year of eargasms. Metallica - Metallica (The Black Album), August 12, 1991 Pearl Jam - Ten, August 27, 1991 Guns N’ Roses - Use Your Illusion I & II, September 17, 1991 Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik, September 24, 1991 Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger, September 24, 1991 Nirvana - Nevermind, September 24, 1991
Siamese Dream has the guitar tuning and chords that take me back to the summer of 1993 when I was 19 years old EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I hear it. It's a wormhole to my youth, and I love it.
My heart was broken in the autumn of 95, all I did was listen to this song and also "anna begins" by the coutning crows on repeat. A few months later I met the love of my life. Celebrating 28 years.
They were working like mad scientists to come up with new guitar sounds back in the day. Billy was a genius back then. This specific sound was achieved with this one guitar pedal called "Big Muff" and using fat chords and looping and overdubbing to make it even fatter. Nobody could mix the heavy, the romantic, the sonic effing bliss like Punkins did on this album.
That guitar sound you’re hearing is the magnificent Electro-Harmonix Big Muff pedal with the super scooped mids. This effect personified ‘90s alt rock and SP were pioneers.
After playing Gish for a year straight in my car, I heard Drown off of the Singles soundtrack. It gave the first taste of where they were headed for Siamese Dream. But even it couldn't forshadow the sound that would land.
After all these years "Quiet" has become my favorite song on this album. I think you guys would really like it. I think its their best guitar feedback song.
I did not like them at all until I got outvoted by the rest of my band on which cover we were going do. I had to learn the bass part and I'm so glad I lost that argument, the album just kept getting left to play longer each time I took it back to listen to Quiet again. One of the few non skippable albums out there.
This song always breaks my heart. It came to me when I needed it the most and though I’m still dealing today with my own personal demons and battling depression. I throw this song on just to vent.
I know I'll probably get some flack for this comment, but oh well, if you don't have a faith, I'd suggest asking for truth to be revealed to you. After a suicide attempt when I was a teenager I said the simple prayer, "God if you're real please show me," and he did. Peace ✌️
@@davidsuch8942 how a song “feels” is not the same as what its lyrics say. The literal gibberish mumbling over the piano at the end of “Runaway” by Kanye is the same thing, literally not even words, but he’s “saying” something
@@davidsuch8942 Whatever, this song cuts right into my heart everytime I hear it and apparently Billy is quite fond of it as they are playing this song almost every night during their current tour.
This is one of those SP songs where the shoegaze elements are out in full force, and it's absolutely glorious. Easily one of the band's most beautiful tracks
Siamese Dream, along with Ten and Rust In Peace, is on an extremely short list of "all killer, no filler" perfect albums from the 90s But, like I said on Patreon when you first released this vid, the secret to that sound is "fifty million overdubs", same as Ten and Nevermind, recording the same guitar track over itself a bunch of times. Can be done with vocals as well, but more noticeable. It's an iffy gimmick sometimes viewed as bullshit, but ears like what they like. Very popular tactic in the early 90's alternative era.
I can't believe no one in the comments has actually answered your question as to why the guitar sounds so strong in this song and is a big part of the 90's hard rock sound: distorted barre chords. Barre chords are chords that are played with every single string of the guitar when strummed, rather than power chords that only use three string or so at a time, so it makes this really BOOMY wall-of-sound type of sound when played with distortion. Incubus did a lot of this kind of stuff too in their biggest hits of the 90's and early 2000's as well. Check 'em out, I have a feeling you get a lot of the same BOOM guitar sound in that "Make Yourself" era of Incubus.
You got the definition of barre wrong: if you play E or G or D/F# you still use all 6 string but you don't need to use a barre. Barre is when you use your index finger to press on all strings. Hendrix is famous to play barre chords with the thumb on the 6th string and a semibarre on the 2 highest strings: different techniques, same result. In this case there are no barre chords, Billy and James play different voicings, just look at the live videos or at the tabs.
@@guitaristssuck8979 Yep, you're right, after looking up the tab for this song I realized I've been playing it wrong lol What I was really getting at is that big booming guitar sound, that in this case is basically strumming the full guitar. But rather than doing it with barre chords it seems like it's mostly with open string chords. Still, similar concept!
@@SophiaAphrodite I'd like to test their boundaries... I even wonder if the riff in "zero" might win them over, Corgan does sound pretty whiney in it though, lol.
This was the album that was in my car when I turned it into the garage and when it was returned to me, the mechanic said that it was the best album to drive fast and crank up all the way and I totally agree! Best album ever for driving!
SOMA from this album, and THRU THE EYES OF RUBY of their 1995 concept album. Both cuts are nothing short of epic. So many melodies and intricate grooves. George, i’m tellin’ ya, you gonna dig them drums😅
Billy doesn't have the greatest voice, but the dude hits his stuff on the albums. Live? Well... there is just something that you have to love about someone going out on a stage and trying their best to sing their guts out... even if the guts hit the floor. Billy is just a great musician and songwriter.
The Smashing Pumpkins' guitar tone on this album (Siamese Dream) in particular was heavily inspired by the Alternative Rock subgenre known as 'Shoegaze' which was mostly popular in the UK during the late 80s-early 90s. They were specifically influenced by the band 'My Bloody Valentine' and their 1991 album 'Loveless', even going so far as to hire Alan Moulder, who mixed Loveless to mix Siamese Dream for them.
I've said this so many times about so many of yall's reactions. But seeing your reaction to the music I listened to as a teenager (and to this day) is a breath of fresh air. It sort of puts me back in that place when I was first discovering this music. Siamese Dreams is one of the albums I used to play over and over. It just has this type of magic that's hard to put your finger on... but it works, and it's great. One of the best albums of the 90s, and that's saying a lot.
Siamese Dream was very "Fuzz" heavy between Billy Corgan and James Iha. Very guitar forward, but don't sleep on Jimmy Chamberlain. One of the most underrated drummers in rock.
I’ve always thought, that this song alone, captures not only the feel of Siamese Dream, but the Album cover! Every time I see the two little girls, my mind comes back to this song! One of my favorite songs of all time ❤️🤘🏼
Need you guys to do a quick Shoegaze dive. Hum - Stars MBV - Only Shallow Swervedriver - Duel Ride - Leave Them All Behind Just a smattering of new sounds for you guys
the heavy dirty fuzz guitar was prevalent in the 90’s, and some would argue, but i recall a lot of musicians giving THE MELVINS the credit for being the innovators of starting that. i could be wrong, but if i am , tell me who.
I saw them live a few weeks ago and they were great, it's like my youth being played on stage, also couldn't believe how great a guitarist Billy Corgan is.
Imagine being 18/19 when it dropped and hearing this for the first time, blew my mind. Fan of them since i was introduced at a frat house living room watching mtv. I couldnt ask for a better time to be alive for music, except maybe late 60s to early 70s.
The mix is a big part of wall of sound but the effect is a Big Muff Pi. Various types of fuzz were certainly popular before but this style and level of usage definitely seemed to hit the masses with Smashing Pumpkins.
The guitar tone comes from the genre “shoegaze” where they stack multiple layers of guitars. Since you two loved this track, I’d recommend “Come in Alone” or “Only Shallow” by my bloody valentine. Basically it’s the same heavy guitar tone with dreamy vocals that sit into that bed of guitars. Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band they took a major influence from mbv. Highly recommend.
This song brings me back to High School. Laying in bed listening to this CD from beginning to end with headphones on. Just a great feeling. One of my top 10 greatest albums of all time.
Dudes. The pumpkins are my all time fav. My musical everyday have changed over the 25 years since I started listening to them. But they're quintessential 90s. It's a shame they're not in the rock and roll HOF already. I could literally list 50 more songs of theirs I would love to watch you guys listen to you. In general I would say if you can get past his voice, the skill and artistry from them as musicians is s tier. Billy Corgan on guitar and Jimmy Chamberlin on drums are perfection
Mayonaise, is straight up a James Iha tune off this album. James is a favorite of many because his playing is always a grove. Best example of this out of Pumpkins, is on 'Judith' from 'a perfect circle' . (I think you all did one on that song). Which is a group of people from a few different bands. James to many of us is of the best of rythem guitarists. He just has that grove that sits well with so, so many ears. As a guitar player, I have, as well as others, will give mad props to James. If they tell you different, then they don't play. JMHO
James wrote the chord progression mainly seen in the intro. The bulk of the song is still from the mind of Billy Corgan. James had absolutely nothing to do with Judith.
One massive influence on '90s guitar sound would be Dinosaur Jr. - the singer/guitarist J Mascis basically laid the blueprint for Billy Corgan, but also all the other alt bands of the decade (including My Bloody Valentine, mentioned below, who he also ended up learning a lot from).
Pumpkins somehow managed to make the heaviest chill song ever
You nailed it.
This and Stars by Hum
@@joeyuzwa891 💯
I always refer to Hum as “Weezer but heavier”
Shoegaze
Exactly
One of the prettiest songs ever written.
And like you don’t need to know the words to absorb the feeling
Word
This and Luna
One of my favourite SP songs. Actually got to hear it live for the first time in my live last saturday in the Netherlands. Was a smashing performance!
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Also, if you liked this song you’d LOVE “Hummer” off this same album.
“Siamese dream” is one of the best albums of all time.
Yes, Hummer is my favorite off this album. The early nineties was my shit.
Agreed
It’s a perfect album imo
Hummer is a great tune, damn if think about it there are no skip tracks on Siamese Dream....just such a fantastic album. This album could come out today and hit hard.
Long time pumpkins fan. Hummer is my favorite and the one I always refer to as an example of how Silversun Pickups is a Smashing Pumpkins tribute band
Never had heard this masterpiece. This is exactly what the internet was for. Thank you Lost in Vegas.
Yes friend YESSSSS! YASSSSSSSSSS!
Wow! AWESOME!
Oh you're in for a treat, the entire album is awesome.
Start with "Hummer" for you next listen.
Welcome to Gen X!
You must be young. Back then this was my track I play daily. Love the album. I still have it in my car playlist.
Siamese dream is one of the top 5 albums to come out of the 90s.
This album is Top 10 ever to me. An amazing album front to back.
Ever. Not just the 90s
Its a top 10 ever and a top 2 of the 90s for me
@@jp1170 Its really great... but the 90s were insane, arguably best decade ever (with the 60s a worthy contender), so that seems like a huge call. I respect it, but would have to think.
wouldn't be surprised if some of the very best albums of the 90s are buried and forgotten beneath the avalanche of artists getting pushed at the time
The whole "Siamese Dream Sound" is like a warm blanket of thick fuzz and distortion. Speaking of the very distinctive guitar tone. A lot of credit to Jimmy Chamberlin on drums as well. This isn't a technically complex song, but the tastefulness with which he plays really helps move this classic along, especially in the builds.
Specifically a big muff and lots of compression on the guitar tracks here
I'm actually a little surprised at how popular this song is standing on its own. It feels like the context of it in the album is so important but I have been proven wrong time and time again and apparently it's just a universal banger.
Jimmy is a great player!
@@ryanboyce3365 if there was a rock band draft, he’d be my #1 pick.
@@whatdothlife4660 I agree, to me it's just a good album track...but that tells you right there that this is a masterpiece of an album because there are so many other tracks on it that stand out more !
I think Pumpkins created their own sound and it is super thick.
They nailed the "wall of sound" guitars, but by their own admission borrowed it from "my bloody valentine" (not to be confused with early 00s emo shit bands that had similar names, a late 80s shoegaze band).
@@Demion83
Failure is another band that’s mastered that “wall of guitars” sound. Fantastic Planet is a flawless album
It ain’t pretty in the face tho
@@Demion83 Bullet for my Valentine and My Bloody Valentine are both amazing - give that emo band a shot
With a lot of help from Mike Matthews of EHX.
Butch Vig production + Billy's tendency to layer like 20 guitar tracks = beefy wall of sound
He is dreamy not cheesy, its sad and happy and dreamy and spiritual and hard and soft, and hopeful, this song is everything
Well described.
Great description
This is one of Chino’s fav albums of all time. Corgan’s breathiness rubbed off on him.
100% can hear lots of influence in chinos singing
Chino is a big fan of the Pumpkins and Hum, he's a man of taste :)
Smashing Pumpkins won a grammy for Bullet with Butterfly Wings. Just pointing that out for why someone would have recommended it.
It's one of their most popular and heaviest songs. The video has over 85 million views. Sounds pretty popular. 😁
Yeah it's definitely great stuff. Billy started singing a little differently starting with the Meloncollie album with his kind of Zero alter ego
It’s an incredible song. Led Zeppelin didn’t write tunes that everyone liked. They left that to the Bee-Gees.
The breathy style of vocals came from the Shoegaze genre which both Deftones and Smashing pumpkins are heavily influenced. I haven't heard anyone say it's cheesy and in fact Shoegaze was a well respected genre among metal fans.
Guitars too. The enormous guitars are largely influenced by My Bloody Valentine.
I hope the react to The Verve and Slowdive
Also Ride.
both the guitars and vocals are very Bilinda Butcher
Blew Away always felt like pure homage to MBV
The guitar sound comes from the shoegaze genre.
My Bloody Valentine is the best example, especially their album Loveless. They were the pioneers of this kind of guitar sound. Love that style. Powerful, beautiful, atmospheric, emotional
hey, thanks for shouting out mybloodyvalentine. i had never heard them i just found only shallow 20 mins ago and its been on repeat. happy 4th homie!
@@wizards_web_ Welcome to the world of shoegaze!
Next album I’d recommend would be Souvlaki by Slowdive. Also one of the most pioneering albums in the genre. I actually like Slowdive even more than My Bloody Valentine. Even more beautiful to me, more melancholic and I like their melodies more. Stunning album too.
My personal favourite shoegaze song is Akira by Deafcult, they’re an Australian Shoegaze band. That track and the EP it’s from (Deafcult) and their first album (Auras) are beautiful albums. Pretty rocked out with a lot of energy but still very nostalgic and beautiful. I recommend
Loveless is a cool album. I recently found a video in which Shields talks about how he created his guitar sound, very interesting.
I second this. You are totally right! The name of the genre is derived from the how the guitarists while performing on stage would always be looking down at their pedal boards due to the amount of pedals used to achieve this "wall of sound" effect, hence the term "shoegaze". The album Loveless as you said is a staple and a must-listen! I hope Ryan and George check it out some day and explore more shoegaze and noise rock. If they ever do something like Dinosaur Jr, that would be an absolute dream.
@@jordanautMBV precede shoegaze really, definitely overlap though
Might as well do this whole album
The guitar gave feedback whenever it wasn't being played, so they incorporated it into the song.
You're right. There was something about 93 to like 97. There's a loving, melancholic nostalgia about it that can't be replicated.
I'd probably say the really energised moment for bands was more like 89-94. By 96/97 I think the whole scene became kind of soulless and over commercialised. I think by that time "the cool scene" had switched to uk trip hop and electronic stuff. But I may just be super nostalgic for 89-94.
Agree it started late 80s, for me the best peaked in 93 and became overly commercialized after that. Regardless of specific timing, the sentiment is the same. ❤
ENTIRE album is FIRE. Top 3 album from the early 90s.
I don’t know about top 3, that’s a tall order for this era. I ain’t gonna push back too hard though because it is a great album.
@@billbrasky1288 That's fair and it might be fun to list some favorites. My criteria is the change or influence on music, and the consistency / quality, of the album. From the early 90s, Nevermind, Ten and Siamese Dream are (probably?) my top three. I know each might sound cliché but they were all game-changers. I'm sure someone could point out another equally groundbreaking album(s).
1991 was the year of eargasms. Metallica - Metallica (The Black Album), August 12, 1991
Pearl Jam - Ten, August 27, 1991
Guns N’ Roses - Use Your Illusion I & II, September 17, 1991
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik, September 24, 1991
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger, September 24, 1991
Nirvana - Nevermind, September 24, 1991
Siamese Dream has the guitar tuning and chords that take me back to the summer of 1993 when I was 19 years old EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. I hear it. It's a wormhole to my youth, and I love it.
Same. This album really struck a chord with 90s me. It’s very special.
Everything from the 90's owes a debt to My Bloody Valentine and Pixies.
So true. So so true
This is one of my favorite songs of all time.
Off one of the best albums of all time.
My heart was broken in the autumn of 95, all I did was listen to this song and also "anna begins" by the coutning crows on repeat. A few months later I met the love of my life. Celebrating 28 years.
love that for you!!
They were working like mad scientists to come up with new guitar sounds back in the day. Billy was a genius back then. This specific sound was achieved with this one guitar pedal called "Big Muff" and using fat chords and looping and overdubbing to make it even fatter.
Nobody could mix the heavy, the romantic, the sonic effing bliss like Punkins did on this album.
Produced by Butch Vig who also produced Nevermind for Nirvana.
I’ll second the Big Muff Pi as the dominate effect. Also never leaves my pedalboard.😅
Big Muff and Jerry Cantrell's Cry Baby, the sounds of the 90's right there.
I know he was influenced by My Bloody Valentine
That intro is one of the best (if not the best) intro ever. Always gives me goosebumps.
I’d love to be these guys hearing this song for the first time in 2024.
this is one of those albums that really is best listened to in its entirety
That guitar sound you’re hearing is the magnificent Electro-Harmonix Big Muff pedal with the super scooped mids. This effect personified ‘90s alt rock and SP were pioneers.
When my band records.. that big muff is my favorite toy..
After playing Gish for a year straight in my car, I heard Drown off of the Singles soundtrack. It gave the first taste of where they were headed for Siamese Dream. But even it couldn't forshadow the sound that would land.
After all these years "Quiet" has become my favorite song on this album. I think you guys would really like it. I think its their best guitar feedback song.
Yessss Quiet rules! Especially the live version!
I did not like them at all until I got outvoted by the rest of my band on which cover we were going do. I had to learn the bass part and I'm so glad I lost that argument, the album just kept getting left to play longer each time I took it back to listen to Quiet again. One of the few non skippable albums out there.
Quiet is great... The whole damn album is great, start to finish. There's just not a bad song on there.
Their song "Tonight, Tonight" from Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness is easily one of my top five favorite songs of all time.
They probably wouldn't like the vocals
@@jsegovia Yeah, the comment about the "nasally" sound make me think you might be right.
Zero is a short and sweet banger.
The 'Pumpkins make you pine for a time that never existed.
But it did exist, and it was the '90's
This song always breaks my heart. It came to me when I needed it the most and though I’m still dealing today with my own personal demons and battling depression. I throw this song on just to vent.
Hang in there, friend! Depression and personal struggles are never easy. Keep up that good fight and be kind to yourself 👊☺️
I hear you. Hang in there!✊
Everything will be ok.
I know I'll probably get some flack for this comment, but oh well, if you don't have a faith, I'd suggest asking for truth to be revealed to you. After a suicide attempt when I was a teenager I said the simple prayer, "God if you're real please show me," and he did. Peace ✌️
Soma from Siamese dream is an underrated gem. One of my fave songs of all time.
Best SP song of all time
Yes! So good. No one talks about it.
@@GeoffVentures It's hard when a band makes so many great song. Siamese dream is full of gems, soma sure is one of them.
"underrated gem. One of the" holy moly my bingo card of cliche youtube comments is filling up
Yes. Soma > Mayonaise
Billy really knew how to write a song that cut as deep as life….
Huh? He's stated this song is gibberish.
Their next album is supposed to be their first throw back to the mid 90s era 😵
@@davidsuch8942 how a song “feels” is not the same as what its lyrics say. The literal gibberish mumbling over the piano at the end of “Runaway” by Kanye is the same thing, literally not even words, but he’s “saying” something
@@davidsuch8942 Whatever, this song cuts right into my heart everytime I hear it and apparently Billy is quite fond of it as they are playing this song almost every night during their current tour.
I love that everyone loves this song as much as I do, but Billy didn't write it. James did. Ikr.
Billy Corgan has a distinct voice, some love it and others don't. But the music and the lyrics are spectacular
One of my favorite Pumpkin songs. This whole album is gourmet 🤌
Yay! A Chicago band! ❤️ Mayonnaise is a heartbreak of a song. They always break my heart beautifully. The melodies and Billy Corgan's lyrics...
This is one of those SP songs where the shoegaze elements are out in full force, and it's absolutely glorious. Easily one of the band's most beautiful tracks
yeah I never fully realized it until now but this is just a straight up My Bloody Valentine or Slowdive song if you swapped the vocals haha
This whole album is pure rock. Stick with it
Me and my best bud used to jam to this tune as teens (he was lead, i was rhythem)..miss ya ben!
You in Melbourne? I still jam this…
@@notsure1135 not quite lol northern alberta, canada
Fuckin AMAZING song! I can’t believe you guys are doing this song!!!!
Siamese is a perfectly mixed and produced album
Trivia: Mayonaise stands for "my own eyes"
Thank you for posting this!
Even if that came directly from Billy’s mouth, I wouldn’t put too much stock in it. He’s been a troll with the press since the beginning.
Nah, it sounds like "my own haze"
Billy has said that. He's also said it's just a name. With him, you never really know.
@@robmitchell3039 even on the wiki it says he got the name because he looked into his fridge. Which is my personal fav explanation
My favorite Smashing Pumpkins song 🔥🔥
Didn't expect to see one of my favorite channels in the comments lol. Love the content and your taste in music haha!
MINE TOO!!!! BY A LONGSHOT!!
Siamese Dream, along with Ten and Rust In Peace, is on an extremely short list of "all killer, no filler" perfect albums from the 90s
But, like I said on Patreon when you first released this vid, the secret to that sound is "fifty million overdubs", same as Ten and Nevermind, recording the same guitar track over itself a bunch of times. Can be done with vocals as well, but more noticeable. It's an iffy gimmick sometimes viewed as bullshit, but ears like what they like. Very popular tactic in the early 90's alternative era.
Ten by Y&T?
You can probably put Vulgar display of power on that list IMO :)
I can't believe no one in the comments has actually answered your question as to why the guitar sounds so strong in this song and is a big part of the 90's hard rock sound: distorted barre chords. Barre chords are chords that are played with every single string of the guitar when strummed, rather than power chords that only use three string or so at a time, so it makes this really BOOMY wall-of-sound type of sound when played with distortion. Incubus did a lot of this kind of stuff too in their biggest hits of the 90's and early 2000's as well. Check 'em out, I have a feeling you get a lot of the same BOOM guitar sound in that "Make Yourself" era of Incubus.
You got the definition of barre wrong: if you play E or G or D/F# you still use all 6 string but you don't need to use a barre.
Barre is when you use your index finger to press on all strings.
Hendrix is famous to play barre chords with the thumb on the 6th string and a semibarre on the 2 highest strings: different techniques, same result.
In this case there are no barre chords, Billy and James play different voicings, just look at the live videos or at the tabs.
@@guitaristssuck8979 Yep, you're right, after looking up the tab for this song I realized I've been playing it wrong lol
What I was really getting at is that big booming guitar sound, that in this case is basically strumming the full guitar. But rather than doing it with barre chords it seems like it's mostly with open string chords. Still, similar concept!
@@travistotle SP style is all about droning open string, 7ths and 9ths...
Chino performed two songs "Bodies" and "Snail" with the Pumpkins live a few years ago. You can watch it here on UA-cam
Snail is 🔥
One of the Best Pumpkins songs!
Kinda shocked you haven't checked out "Today", yet. I crank that every time it comes on.
Agreed. Today is probably the biggest banger on this album in my eyes at least but the album as a whole is one of if not their best.
Today is their hit. a great song, but for me also gives the feeling "oh this one again' just like disarm.
Rocket is up there too
His vocals may be too whiny in that one. They won't like it.
@@SophiaAphrodite I'd like to test their boundaries... I even wonder if the riff in "zero" might win them over, Corgan does sound pretty whiney in it though, lol.
I see Smashing Pumpkins, I hit like.
This was the album that was in my car when I turned it into the garage and when it was returned to me, the mechanic said that it was the best album to drive fast and crank up all the way and I totally agree! Best album ever for driving!
This entire album is great. "Rocket" or "Hummer" would be good to follow up with.
Mayonnaise is one of my favorites from the Pumpkins!
SOMA from this album, and THRU THE EYES OF RUBY of their 1995 concept album. Both cuts are nothing short of epic. So many melodies and intricate grooves. George, i’m tellin’ ya, you gonna dig them drums😅
Billy doesn't have the greatest voice, but the dude hits his stuff on the albums. Live? Well... there is just something that you have to love about someone going out on a stage and trying their best to sing their guts out... even if the guts hit the floor. Billy is just a great musician and songwriter.
My husband and I shared our first dance to Luna off this legendary album.
Luna doesn't get nearly enough love. It's like the perfect 90s love ballad.
one of the absolute best albums of all time.
I get high, without smoke, every time l hear this song! Absolutely beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
DISARM was my intro to Pumpkins and I'm so grateful for it.
Aww man that is such a great song!
Now this is how to intro Smashing Pumpkins
That beat drop on the intro is one of the best ever!
The Smashing Pumpkins' guitar tone on this album (Siamese Dream) in particular was heavily inspired by the Alternative Rock subgenre known as 'Shoegaze' which was mostly popular in the UK during the late 80s-early 90s. They were specifically influenced by the band 'My Bloody Valentine' and their 1991 album 'Loveless', even going so far as to hire Alan Moulder, who mixed Loveless to mix Siamese Dream for them.
Hahaha I loved this! You guys are great! I was cracking up. This is one of my favorite songs!
You guys gotta hear "Quiet" the 2nd track from Siamese Dream, definetly a groovy banger! Cheers from Cleveland!!!
I've said this so many times about so many of yall's reactions. But seeing your reaction to the music I listened to as a teenager (and to this day) is a breath of fresh air. It sort of puts me back in that place when I was first discovering this music.
Siamese Dreams is one of the albums I used to play over and over. It just has this type of magic that's hard to put your finger on... but it works, and it's great. One of the best albums of the 90s, and that's saying a lot.
The Siamese Dream guitar tone is iconic
You two are dope. Appreciate the honest reactions, you dont get that in alot of reaction videos
Siamese Dream was very "Fuzz" heavy between Billy Corgan and James Iha. Very guitar forward, but don't sleep on Jimmy Chamberlain. One of the most underrated drummers in rock.
I love Jimmy. He said that when he plays the drums he wants it to feel like a drill boaring into your skull! Lmao! Awesome!
"We weren't trying to be grunge. We were just trying to be The Smashing Pumpkins." - Billy Corgan
IMO "Hüsker Dü - Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely" was the first nineties Punkrock song made in 1986!
10/10 Song
Yeah Husker Du had that specific wall of sound, also let's not forget King's X, who pre-dated grunge.
@@tetfol3315FLIP YOUR WIG!
I’ve always thought, that this song alone, captures not only the feel of Siamese Dream, but the Album cover! Every time I see the two little girls, my mind comes back to this song! One of my favorite songs of all time ❤️🤘🏼
When it comes to the 90s, decade defining albums, Siamese Dream is right at the top of the list.
Need you guys to do a quick Shoegaze dive.
Hum - Stars
MBV - Only Shallow
Swervedriver - Duel
Ride - Leave Them All Behind
Just a smattering of new sounds for you guys
Hum ❤
My Bloody Valentine is where this sound originated from.
And slowdive!!!
You both are tripping, although very influential now, back then mbv & slowdive went almost unnoticed
@@axlucaslashlalalauh except by ppl who were into music like yanno every band that came after and had heard them
@@axlucaslashlalala Billy Corgan was a big fan of My Bloody Valentine and he hired the same guy who mixed Loveless to mix Siamese Dream.
@@The16thninja nahh you made that up
Dinosaur Jr is the band you are thinking of.
Try Swervedriver Duel. You'll like it.
@@spackle9999Mezcal Head is a masterpiece!
@@spackle9999 I was thinking exactly about Duel before reading this comment. I never saw anyone reacting, very underrated.
Helmet did it well too
I commented on the last Pumpkins review that George and Ryan would enjoy Drown the most. I still believe it. The guitars will engross you even more.
If you haven’t heard Soma off this album, you really gotta check it out. Best track on the album imo. Epic build up and release
One of my favorite bands. So many great songs. Disarm is another great song. Awesome reaction as always. Happy 4th
Please react to 1979. Y’all have probably heard it but in case you haven’t it’s amazing
I imagine Prince liking this song 🎵
He was a master of covers and would have made a smashing version. Nice to see another metalhead acknowledging Prince!
Corgan was heavily influenced by Shoegaze at the time. Can really hear it in this tune.
"Soma" is my favorite song from this masterpiece album.
Siamese Dream is a fantastic album! Would love to see a full reaction series from Lost in Vegas
Omg!! I've been watching your videos for years. Love your reactions!
This is one of my favourite songs ever ❤️
the heavy dirty fuzz guitar was prevalent in the 90’s, and some would argue, but i recall a lot of musicians giving THE MELVINS the credit for being the innovators of starting that. i could be wrong, but if i am , tell me who.
Whole album deserves a reaction, but especially Soma.
Definitely need to get to the whole album!! It’s 🔥🔥🔥 this song takes me back to summer, it’s a feeling type song
I saw them live a few weeks ago and they were great, it's like my youth being played on stage, also couldn't believe how great a guitarist Billy Corgan is.
Incredible song from one of the greatest albums of all time!
Imagine being 18/19 when it dropped and hearing this for the first time, blew my mind. Fan of them since i was introduced at a frat house living room watching mtv. I couldnt ask for a better time to be alive for music, except maybe late 60s to early 70s.
I think you're talking about the "Wall of Sound" effect of the guitars. Someone else can explain how it works and how it started better than I could
The mix is a big part of wall of sound but the effect is a Big Muff Pi. Various types of fuzz were certainly popular before but this style and level of usage definitely seemed to hit the masses with Smashing Pumpkins.
I believe the term you're looking for is, "The Seattle Sound".
The guitar tone comes from the genre “shoegaze” where they stack multiple layers of guitars. Since you two loved this track, I’d recommend “Come in Alone” or “Only Shallow” by my bloody valentine. Basically it’s the same heavy guitar tone with dreamy vocals that sit into that bed of guitars. Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band they took a major influence from mbv. Highly recommend.
Today, Disarm and Tonight Tonight are iconic Smashing Pumpkins songs.
Best pumpkins song imo
Every track on this album is golden
You need to explore Big Wreck.
This song brings me back to High School. Laying in bed listening to this CD from beginning to end with headphones on. Just a great feeling. One of my top 10 greatest albums of all time.
Dudes. The pumpkins are my all time fav. My musical everyday have changed over the 25 years since I started listening to them. But they're quintessential 90s. It's a shame they're not in the rock and roll HOF already. I could literally list 50 more songs of theirs I would love to watch you guys listen to you. In general I would say if you can get past his voice, the skill and artistry from them as musicians is s tier. Billy Corgan on guitar and Jimmy Chamberlin on drums are perfection
Great review. Gotta do Soma next for sure
Mayonaise, is straight up a James Iha tune off this album. James is a favorite of many because his playing is always a grove. Best example of this out of Pumpkins, is on 'Judith' from 'a perfect circle' . (I think you all did one on that song). Which is a group of people from a few different bands. James to many of us is of the best of rythem guitarists. He just has that grove that sits well with so, so many ears. As a guitar player, I have, as well as others, will give mad props to James. If they tell you different, then they don't play. JMHO
Great comment bro, well said!!
Iha didn't play on this studio track or Judith. He wasn't in A Perfect Circle when that first album came out.
He didn’t join APC until just before the tour for thirteenth step and then he was part of the emotive album.
James wrote the chord progression mainly seen in the intro. The bulk of the song is still from the mind of Billy Corgan. James had absolutely nothing to do with Judith.
One massive influence on '90s guitar sound would be Dinosaur Jr. - the singer/guitarist J Mascis basically laid the blueprint for Billy Corgan, but also all the other alt bands of the decade (including My Bloody Valentine, mentioned below, who he also ended up learning a lot from).
6:53 & 10:51 Ryan is the new Billy Corgan backup singer