I got the Knights Armorments replacement QD panning canting rail adapter. You takeoff the saddle mount and replace it with the panning QD mount it's simply bad ass.
The tip top brand buy pods that you can get on Amazon are nicer than both of these. They come with swivel and Pam functions and a lock lever on the adjustment right out of the box. I think I paid 80 bucks for mine and it blows them both away.
Funny what you said there about China products being cheaper quality. I work for a major US auto manufacturer, when we build vehicles for the China market, China demands nothing but the HIGHEST quality from us. Everything has to be nothing short of meticulous quality, FAR higher than what the American market receives. The quality demands for China are so great that we had to create a separate area in our plant just for them, the vehicles that enter this area are gone over 3-4 times by different eyes for the smallest of quality concerns (and I mean SMALL).....Yet Americans willingly except pure JUNK from them with open arms!, go figure.
This is what it boils down to quality control. A lot of company's go to China to manufacture and then have no quality controls at their facility in China or off side in China, and when they get the product back they push it on to the market
You get what you pay for. You tell Chinese manufacturers you want a product for as little as money as possible, they will deliver and it will be made with inferior materials and workmanship with as little steps as possible. You tell the same Chinese manufacturer that you want a product made to excellent quality and standards, they will be sure to do so but charge a higher price. The problem really comes down to large corporations focused on the largest profit margin as possible and rely upon the brands reputation which the founders of the company worked very hard to build by providing quality products at a reasonable price. Once the founders pass away, the young CEOs take over and ruin everything. This is just my honest opinion but I base that off of 25 years in manufacturing and having a lot of items handed down to me from my grand parents that still work to this day.
Well you also have to consider in the chinese market American Cars are perceived as more luxury cars. the base mustang v8 costs roughly 220% more in china than it does here in America ($35,630 vs $78550 converted)
We are doomed, There is no pride in any market anymore. No one cares anymore if they do there job right they just want there check( and how about a raise). Grown into greedy want for nothing bunch of lazy people. May God save us. :(
Well represented review ... Harris is properly acknowledged for it's reputation and quality while the Caldwell is also credited for it's approach and honest cost cutting approach. I appreciate the honest approach to both bipods. Cheers ...
I have a 9-13" Caldwell for a coyote hunting rig that sucks and has been removed. I have a 6-9" Caldwell that I have abused quite a bit and it is doing well. When it goes I'm getting a Harris. The only reason I went Caldwell was a friend of mine was working at a big box store and I used his discount and got them both for $55 out the door.
I like the Blackhawk! bipods. They already have a pod lock lever on them. They only thing I don’t like is that the legs don’t extend by spring power, they retract.
I tried one several years ago and the notches in the legs were the same spacing, side to side, but the didnt line up side to side. One side the 1st notch was about a 1/4" out and the other side was like 3/4". It looked like the inner legs were just 20 foot notches aluminum stock, chopped to size and maybe they lined up...maybe not. Returned it and went with the Harris.
My brother has a Caldwell and the thumb screw stripped the threads, he use a machine screw now and a screw fell out of button to release the leg's. I have 3 Harris bipod's that he's fixing to get since I got my Atlas PSR
I have xla two of them for two different rifles. Great set up in the 6to9 Size for my ARs. When I wore out my feet they sent me new bipod feet. Now that's customer service. Also recommend to them to make spike replacement feet to be ordered off their website.
I have the XLA and it's fantastic. I'm actually not too crazy about the pivot system, so I just have it centered and locked in. But I can see how it might be useful for some folks. I'm mostly a bench shooter, so for me it's not really necessary.
I got the Caldwell simply because I have never really used a bipod before and only do a bit of prone plinking and little hunting with it - when / if the Caldwell craps out I might go to Harris depending on how much I use the bipod - I have it on a quick disconnect with the KDG Kinect M-LOK Harris Bipod Extended Mount so I can pop it on and off rifle as needed
if you are not going to use your gun as support getting out of prone, I use a Lions Gear which is very light. The pivot area is threaded and I use a thin rubber flat washer, thin, fender washer, a spring washer and small nob to adjust the exact tightness I want on the pivot. I have used it in long range two guns and long range timed redeployed time limit rifle matches. The are not very heavy.
i got both of them. the caldwell and the harris. the two main problems of the caldwell are the caldwell unscrew itself under recoil on my 300wm, and it did not fit the curve of my cz452 forend stock. so, it does not work anywhere... so i bought a harris, this problems disapears...
I had a Caldwell. It lasted about 400 rounds on my 6.5X55 before the mounting plate broke off. I now have a Harris and will never go back. BTW i have thousands of rounds on the Harris and 2 years of local PRS style matches.
Harris has been out for so long they should be offering versions that come with M-Lok or picatinny built in and should come with the pod lock. $100 bipod turns into $150 after you buy adapters and lever.
I bought one before I knew the difference. the short answer is ‘No’ the longer you use it the more you realize it’s inferior in every way...and why it’s half the price.
What is your take on the utg heavy duty 360 bipod? As far as I can see it has all the features of the atlas but at a much lower price. Can't seem to find any good reviews. Would you mind doing a review on on??
I've got one on my savage 308 in an mpa chassis my only complaint is the attachment to the sling swivel it's easy to spin it upside down and you almost have to take it off to fix it. Wondering if I can swap the rrs arca clamp onto it
I bought a Caldwell for a budget rifle, to say it's not on par with a Harris is an understatement... The bipod was shaky and NO spring tension while deployed. I replaced it with a SonicKing from Amazon , cheaper and significantly better! Harris is on my 22-250, but a Amazon cheapy for my .22 mag 👍
John, when you load the Harris bipod forward a bit before firing, is there enough play to let the rifle recoil straight to the rear like on the Atlas bipods?
The weaker springs allow the gun to free recoil. I have found it works way better than the Harris witch in hunting situations where you don't have a shooting mat and can't always load the bypod you get vertical stringing. Does not happen with the Calwell
i dont know what the point of this is. the ultimate and best bipod in the world is the utg bipod. i got one on my airsoft gun and i'd bet my life on it as i do every time i hit the field in my camo girlysuit.
Sorry but for the price, I'll stick with the Caldwell. I'm not into super percision shooting and if I was, I'd use other manufacturers bi-pod before Harris..
stud hole attachment pins under size and short they will pull out ..need to drill out to 1/8 inch and replace with new larger dia pins .. demeral bit chuck post is 1/8 dia .. go to ace hardware get for $ 2.96 barstool rubber caps [ 4 ] to a pkg .. razor cut the flair off to wear its almost flush . wrap 3 turns of elrctric tape as the rubber is 1 mm to small from he inside dia of the new caps then tap the new wider softer rubber caps over the old one .. done and have 2 more for later
I bought this bipod, I hate this bipod. Now I have to factor the $35 into the cost of my atlas or Harris Many people want something cheap they will later throw away, but if you asked most people to throw $35 bucks in the garbage and then go spend $100 on the bipod they want they would say you are crazy
I've never owned a Harris but based on experience with the Caldwells - I doubt it. Firefield makes the best 6-9 inch Harris Clones. On my four Firefield 6-9 inch bipods (2 Compacts; 2 Strongholds), all the legs 'spring out' and lock into place every time. On my 5 Caldwell 9-13 inch XLA Pivot bipods, 2 of them have an issue were 1 or both legs don't spring out and lock into place consistently. Firefield Compacts does everything Caldwell XLA Pivots do but better while the Firefield Strongholds pivot, pan and adds a locking lever. I also bought two Atlas Clone to see if I wanted to save for a real one. 1 was trash while 1 was a treasure. I came to the realization that I prefer Harris style bipods over all others. Price wise - I can afford to buy a clone and leave it on the rifle it's installed on rather than 'breaking the bank' buying several Harris bipods or constantly transferring/sharing a couple of Harris bipods amongst a few rifles.
You pay for the name. 2 ounces so what! if you don't slam and bang on a daily bases like Military then this product is fantastic. You can buy 3 overtime. The problem is these gun snobs bloat the Market and run average people out of the hobby. The average guy with 3 kids can't afford to spend $$$ on equipment. These guys throw money at a hobby to the point where the manufacture just builds high-end products. Then the average hunter is shut out of the game. The same thing happens in the hot rod hobby or HI Fidelity sound equipment you get the point. What gets me is these guys go in the service (Thank You) then come back as an expert ???? NOT it's your rife do what YOU like remember it's yours. does it do what you need! PERFECT.
To answer your question NO. There are bipods out there ahole lot better and not as expensive as a Harris or as cheap as Caldwell. Everything I've seen or heard about a Caldwell bipods save your money !!!;
I have multiples of both and agree overall. The XLA is hard to beat for the money but it's not a well made as a Harris for sure.
I got the Knights Armorments replacement QD panning canting rail adapter. You takeoff the saddle mount and replace it with the panning QD mount it's simply bad ass.
The tip top brand buy pods that you can get on Amazon are nicer than both of these. They come with swivel and Pam functions and a lock lever on the adjustment right out of the box. I think I paid 80 bucks for mine and it blows them both away.
@@ingold84 brand?
ty, this pushed me to go harris.
@@ingold84 my $60 amazon bipod bent on my 17lb gun
Funny what you said there about China products being cheaper quality.
I work for a major US auto manufacturer, when we build vehicles for the China market, China demands nothing but the HIGHEST quality from us. Everything has to be nothing short of meticulous quality, FAR higher than what the American market receives.
The quality demands for China are so great that we had to create a separate area in our plant just for them, the vehicles that enter this area are gone over 3-4 times by different eyes for the smallest of quality concerns (and I mean SMALL).....Yet Americans willingly except pure JUNK from them with open arms!, go figure.
This is what it boils down to quality control. A lot of company's go to China to manufacture and then have no quality controls at their facility in China or off side in China, and when they get the product back they push it on to the market
You get what you pay for. You tell Chinese manufacturers you want a product for as little as money as possible, they will deliver and it will be made with inferior materials and workmanship with as little steps as possible. You tell the same Chinese manufacturer that you want a product made to excellent quality and standards, they will be sure to do so but charge a higher price. The problem really comes down to large corporations focused on the largest profit margin as possible and rely upon the brands reputation which the founders of the company worked very hard to build by providing quality products at a reasonable price. Once the founders pass away, the young CEOs take over and ruin everything. This is just my honest opinion but I base that off of 25 years in manufacturing and having a lot of items handed down to me from my grand parents that still work to this day.
Well you also have to consider in the chinese market American Cars are perceived as more luxury cars. the base mustang v8 costs roughly 220% more in china than it does here in America ($35,630 vs $78550 converted)
We are doomed, There is no pride in any market anymore. No one cares anymore if they do there job right they just want there check( and how about a raise). Grown into greedy want for nothing bunch of lazy people. May God save us. :(
@@seairis616 I haven't seen anything of quality come out of china, I'm not being biased just truthful
I've had a one on my 243win for about 5 years and never had a problem.
Well represented review ... Harris is properly acknowledged for it's reputation and quality while the Caldwell is also credited for it's approach and honest cost cutting approach. I appreciate the honest approach to both bipods. Cheers ...
I have used a Caldwell for shots out to 1100yrds as well as PRS matches on 2 .308 rifles. Has worked well for me.
Excellent comparison video! Just what I needed to know. Thanks for making it.
I have a 9-13" Caldwell for a coyote hunting rig that sucks and has been removed. I have a 6-9" Caldwell that I have abused quite a bit and it is doing well. When it goes I'm getting a Harris. The only reason I went Caldwell was a friend of mine was working at a big box store and I used his discount and got them both for $55 out the door.
Glad to see you finally rocking that hellfire brake!!
I got mine on my 243 and it does the job
The tension/attachment screw bends when you torque down on it as well.
I like the Blackhawk! bipods. They already have a pod lock lever on them. They only thing I don’t like is that the legs don’t extend by spring power, they retract.
Please make a video on that sweet looking rifle you've got there.
I tried one several years ago and the notches in the legs were the same spacing, side to side, but the didnt line up side to side.
One side the 1st notch was about a 1/4" out and the other side was like 3/4".
It looked like the inner legs were just 20 foot notches aluminum stock, chopped to size and maybe they lined up...maybe not.
Returned it and went with the Harris.
My brother has a Caldwell and the thumb screw stripped the threads, he use a machine screw now and a screw fell out of button to release the leg's. I have 3 Harris bipod's that he's fixing to get since I got my Atlas PSR
I have xla two of them for two different rifles. Great set up in the 6to9
Size for my ARs. When I wore out my feet they sent me new bipod feet. Now that's customer service. Also recommend to them to make spike replacement feet to be ordered off their website.
I have the XLA and it's fantastic. I'm actually not too crazy about the pivot system, so I just have it centered and locked in. But I can see how it might be useful for some folks. I'm mostly a bench shooter, so for me it's not really necessary.
I got the Caldwell simply because I have never really used a bipod before and only do a bit of prone plinking and little hunting with it - when / if the Caldwell craps out I might go to Harris depending on how much I use the bipod - I have it on a quick disconnect with the KDG Kinect M-LOK Harris Bipod Extended Mount so I can pop it on and off rifle as needed
I have both as well. I find the xla acceptable for a range toy and normal use...but there is no real comparison for hard use.
if you are not going to use your gun as support getting out of prone, I use a Lions Gear which is very light. The pivot area is threaded and I use a thin rubber flat washer, thin, fender washer, a spring washer and small nob to adjust the exact tightness I want on the pivot. I have used it in long range two guns and long range timed redeployed time limit rifle matches. The are not very heavy.
i got both of them. the caldwell and the harris.
the two main problems of the caldwell are the caldwell unscrew itself under recoil on my 300wm, and it did not fit the curve of my cz452 forend stock. so, it does not work anywhere...
so i bought a harris, this problems disapears...
I had a Caldwell. It lasted about 400 rounds on my 6.5X55 before the mounting plate broke off. I now have a Harris and will never go back. BTW i have thousands of rounds on the Harris and 2 years of local PRS style matches.
Harris has been out for so long they should be offering versions that come with M-Lok or picatinny built in and should come with the pod lock. $100 bipod turns into $150 after you buy adapters and lever.
I bought one before I knew the difference. the short answer is ‘No’ the longer you use it the more you realize it’s inferior in every way...and why it’s half the price.
I think the Caldwell is a prefect rimfire bipod. Harris for everything else.
Well said. I'll have to try a Caldwell on something. As mentioned, It's not a Harris S BRM.
Can the pivot Cladwell be installed with M-Lok?
Checkout Tip-Top EZ pan I actually prefer it now over my Harris. It pans and cants and is pretty darn robust
Does anyone know the build specs on this rifle? What length of barrel and handguard are you using? Ess chassis?
The Caldwell I had was junk due to the cheaper steel etc. Buy once cry once. Get the Harris or the Atlas.
What is your take on the utg heavy duty 360 bipod? As far as I can see it has all the features of the atlas but at a much lower price. Can't seem to find any good reviews. Would you mind doing a review on on??
I will look into it.
Thanks I'm curious about that bipod as well.
I've got one on my savage 308 in an mpa chassis my only complaint is the attachment to the sling swivel it's easy to spin it upside down and you almost have to take it off to fix it. Wondering if I can swap the rrs arca clamp onto it
I haven't tried with the RRS, but I did throw an old DLOC adapter on and it seemed to work.
If that works I would assume the rrs will too.
What rifle did u say that was?
purchased the caldwell after 5 shots 308 it came loose every 5 shots so i returned it
I bought a Caldwell for a budget rifle, to say it's not on par with a Harris is an understatement... The bipod was shaky and NO spring tension while deployed. I replaced it with a SonicKing from Amazon , cheaper and significantly better! Harris is on my 22-250, but a Amazon cheapy for my .22 mag 👍
Harris Bipod is made less then a mile from me in Kentucky
John, when you load the Harris bipod forward a bit before firing, is there enough play to let the rifle recoil straight to the rear like on the Atlas bipods?
I want some info on the rifle!! That thing is sweet
That is the Stumpy Tree-o-hate. We will be talking about it soon. 😉
I am looking forward to it!!
What action is that rifle built on?
Ultimatum U300
They discontinued the u300 and are only building the deadline now correct? Keep up the great channel/content 👍👍
The weaker springs allow the gun to free recoil. I have found it works way better than the Harris witch in hunting situations where you don't have a shooting mat and can't always load the bypod you get vertical stringing. Does not happen with the Calwell
Still watching this channel in 2024
I just bought a Caldwell 6"-9" for $59.99 in Canada and it was on sale from $89.99. $35 is a steal. Hahaha
Harris was $139.99 lol
i dont know what the point of this is. the ultimate and best bipod in the world is the utg bipod. i got one on my airsoft gun and i'd bet my life on it as i do every time i hit the field in my camo girlysuit.
You nailed it. No need to even speak on this subject anymore.
Sorry but for the price, I'll stick with the Caldwell. I'm not into super percision shooting and if I was, I'd use other manufacturers bi-pod before Harris..
stud hole attachment pins under size and short they will pull out ..need to drill out to 1/8 inch and replace with new larger dia pins .. demeral bit chuck post is 1/8 dia .. go to ace hardware get for $ 2.96 barstool rubber caps [ 4 ] to a pkg .. razor cut the flair off to wear its almost flush . wrap 3 turns of elrctric tape as the rubber is 1 mm to small from he inside dia of the new caps then tap the new wider softer rubber caps over the old one .. done and have 2 more for later
I bought this bipod, I hate this bipod.
Now I have to factor the $35 into the cost of my atlas or Harris
Many people want something cheap they will later throw away, but if you asked most people to throw $35 bucks in the garbage and then go spend $100 on the bipod they want they would say you are crazy
Go Atlas ! :)
Seems like a no-brainer for my kids .22.
I prefer the Harris bipod because it makes my rifle shoot bullets at higher velocities.
mine lasted 1/2 season of competition and broke wont buy another
I've never owned a Harris but based on experience with the Caldwells - I doubt it. Firefield makes the best 6-9 inch Harris Clones. On my four Firefield 6-9 inch bipods (2 Compacts; 2 Strongholds), all the legs 'spring out' and lock into place every time. On my 5 Caldwell 9-13 inch XLA Pivot bipods, 2 of them have an issue were 1 or both legs don't spring out and lock into place consistently. Firefield Compacts does everything Caldwell XLA Pivots do but better while the Firefield Strongholds pivot, pan and adds a locking lever. I also bought two Atlas Clone to see if I wanted to save for a real one. 1 was trash while 1 was a treasure. I came to the realization that I prefer Harris style bipods over all others. Price wise - I can afford to buy a clone and leave it on the rifle it's installed on rather than 'breaking the bank' buying several Harris bipods or constantly transferring/sharing a couple of Harris bipods amongst a few rifles.
Truly I’d rather buy American 🇺🇸
So I know that I’m helping a fellow American feed their children and family.
Thank you for this information. I'm sending back this Caldwell and getting a Harris. No more Chinese manufactured items. No more.
A bag of bean’s works… in a gun sock. 10 bucks…
You pay for the name. 2 ounces so what! if you don't slam and bang on a daily bases like Military then this product is fantastic. You can buy 3 overtime. The problem is these gun snobs bloat the Market and run average people out of the hobby. The average guy with 3 kids can't afford to spend $$$ on equipment. These guys throw money at a hobby to the point where the manufacture just builds high-end products. Then the average hunter is shut out of the game. The same thing happens in the hot rod hobby or HI Fidelity sound equipment you get the point. What gets me is these guys go in the service (Thank You) then come back as an expert ???? NOT it's your rife do what YOU like remember it's yours. does it do what you need! PERFECT.
I see weight equals strength.....number of coils equals strength......thank for sharing that........perhaps more education would help...
Is atlas the king of the hill?
The Atlas Bipods are my preference for tactical/precision type shooting.
@@8541tactical Not so sure about that as I have a Atlas and also a Accu Tech and prefer it over the Atlas by far...
Not even close
To answer your question NO. There are bipods out there ahole lot better and not as expensive as a Harris or as cheap as Caldwell. Everything I've seen or heard about a Caldwell bipods save your money !!!;
No, Caldwell is cheap junk. I'd go UTG over a Caldwell any day and Harris over both.
Just did aa video on my channel trying to answer the same question. Stop by and check it out!
I agree about the rubber feet of the XLA. They are trash
American made all the way !
Accu-Tac !!
Patents only stifle innovation imo
As soon as you said made in China, I decided it wasn’t for me
Long story short, NO.