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Off-Grid LPG (Propane) Gas line Installation for a Tiny House

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  • Опубліковано 17 сер 2023
  • This video is a full instructional review on how to install a LPG gas line for a propane heater. Winter is upon us and we need some off grid heating for our cabin or tiny home and a propane needs to be brought into the cabin for my newly installed Martin 20K BTU Vented Propane Heater. In this video, we will show the problems we faced installing a gas line and our own tips and tricks we discovered during the installation. Hope this Do-It Yourself (DIY) step-by-step will be a great help to all of us off gridders.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 65

  • @jaypickett3552
    @jaypickett3552 2 місяці тому +1

    I accepted your offer to take a drink every time you said "1/2 inch". I watched the video 3 times. Now I'm hammered. Thanks, Fearless Rambler!!!

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  2 місяці тому +1

      Lol, I think to get hammered, you only need to watch it once, but thnx for the views. Have a great day

  • @ericl.winter3622
    @ericl.winter3622 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Well done!

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  2 місяці тому +1

      My pleasure! Hope it helped out. Have a great day.

  • @jtnh93able
    @jtnh93able 2 дні тому

    Propane tech here , you can use about 1/4 the amount of pipe dope you used . Just enough to cover the threads. and get 2 pipe wrenches to ensure the fittings are tight,The threads are tapered and seal the tighter they are. And some dawn in a spray bottle will work as a leak solution . Other than that good job!

  • @baldknobfarmstead5167
    @baldknobfarmstead5167 4 місяці тому +2

    We will be installing propane soon in my canning room so this helps so much!

  • @quality1047
    @quality1047 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank YOU!!! for this video. This just the video I needed to watch. Getting ready to add a small three brick wall heater in my trailer.

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  6 місяців тому +2

      Have fun with you project and I hope it goes well, have a great day

  • @Nixters
    @Nixters Рік тому +4

    Can't wait to follow your off grid adventures!

  • @mrsunshine63755
    @mrsunshine63755 8 місяців тому +1

    love the shot of the trees

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  8 місяців тому +1

      Fall is always as time of the year, but I appreciate the heater. Have a wonderful day.

  • @SeaLegJourneys
    @SeaLegJourneys Рік тому +4

    Great work George!

  • @johnny.9879
    @johnny.9879 Місяць тому +1

    Nice video 👍👍

  • @SparkY0
    @SparkY0 Рік тому +2

    Kudos Fearless Rambler for sharing this valuable tutorial on LPG gas line installation!
    C4H8 is the perfect family gas for all your propane accessories!
    Your step-by-step guide is incredibly helpful for those of us looking to bring that clean and efficient propane heat into our spaces. Your expertise and tips truly make it seem like a manageable DIY project. Thanks for empowering us to take control of our off-grid heating needs. Keep those informative videos coming!

  • @wandamcgann7728
    @wandamcgann7728 Місяць тому +1

    awesome job. love your place very cozy looking

  • @sharonrowland1196
    @sharonrowland1196 Рік тому +3

    Super Great Video Fearless Rambler 👍😃😃

  • @brucearchambault6774
    @brucearchambault6774 22 дні тому +1

    Awesome video, thanks so much for making it. What state are you in? I've got my own mountain retreat in Colorado that I need to redo my propane lines in. Also need to replace the heater, stove and fridge, and move the fridge from a shed outside into the kitchen. I now feel that I can do this thanks in part to watching your video. Much appreciated!

  • @MarktheShark808
    @MarktheShark808 Рік тому +2

    Great job George!

  • @sharonrowland1196
    @sharonrowland1196 Рік тому +4

    Fearless Rambler you be Extremely Careful with that Propane Bro PLZ 👍😃 Awesome Video Bro 👍😃 I can't wait until MONDAY BRO I'M EXCITED 🤣👍🤣

  • @SeaLegJourneys
    @SeaLegJourneys Рік тому +4

    This is great!

  • @sharonrowland1196
    @sharonrowland1196 Рік тому +3

    Good Morning Fearless Rambler 👋👍😃

  • @EmbarkationNation
    @EmbarkationNation 10 місяців тому +2

    There is a lot of great information here. We would have going with 1/2 inch as well and probably made the same mistake.

  • @Destination_Fun
    @Destination_Fun Рік тому +3

    Great video!! I can't wait to follow your journey on your other channel. Heading over now to subscribe

  • @Mudwarz
    @Mudwarz Рік тому +3

    Hello I am new here I am doing the same I am buying shed to make a tiny home too put on my 5.09 acres land you gave me so many Ideas I will be Leaving 1st of September to my land in Ozarks Mt. in Mo

  • @douglaslopez4671
    @douglaslopez4671 6 місяців тому +2

    Nice video! Next time use galvanized piping for outdoor . Cheers

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  6 місяців тому +2

      Thanx for you comment and idea, with a little research this is what I found out, plus or zone regulations required black pipe for gas (ore yellow flex pipe) above ground.
      Is black pipe better than galvanized for gas lines?
      The difference is that galvanized pipe is coated with zinc, while the black pipe is not. Black pipe is best used for gas lines, not for water lines because it rusts easily, while the galvanized pipe is the safer pipe to use in water lines, but it cannot be used to convey gas.
      You do not want to use galvanized pipe for gas because of the galvanized coating. Over time pieces of the galvanized steel will flake off and clog your gas regulators and burner units. Never mix galvanized and black iron or where they touch corrosion will be accelerated.
      I also had to paint the black pipe when outdoors due to rusting, so I used black grill paint, Rust-Oleum 249310 Automotive BBQ & Stove Spray Paint

  • @BigManAlaska
    @BigManAlaska 9 місяців тому +2

    They recommend 1/2 inch to allow for expansion and available room in the pipe to create gas in the coldest months. In Alaska this room necessary because propane will turn back into a liquid state at minus 20°f depending on how the wind blows.

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for the insight, have a great day.

  • @mpalaskokkalis1476
    @mpalaskokkalis1476 5 місяців тому +1

    Perfect 👌

  • @SeaLegJourneys
    @SeaLegJourneys Рік тому +7

    They should have had a 1/2 inch fitting to begin with...ugh.

  • @whitehead70
    @whitehead70 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the video, lots of great info. What did you use to underpin your cabin? It looks fantastic!

  • @sharonrowland1196
    @sharonrowland1196 Рік тому +3

    Hey Fearless Rambler you still having A Video Monday Bro? I can't wait to watch 👍😃

  • @HotNoob
    @HotNoob 9 місяців тому +1

    i use pink teflon, pipe dope always left me with leaks. i do have decent luck with teflon and dope combined tho, so i do that for critical things.
    pink does gas, water, and large pipes, so only need to carry 1 color... for basically anything.

  • @tenacioustortoise7151
    @tenacioustortoise7151 6 місяців тому +2

    Please, if time permits, provide sources for materials. Thanks.

  • @barbarajauslin
    @barbarajauslin 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thank you for taking the time to make and post it! Very helpful and clear! Question: souldn't the sediment trap be downstream of the valve?

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  8 місяців тому +3

      Martin shows the sediment trap before it gets to the manual shutoff valve leading up to the heater (see page 12). So I placed it where the installation manual shows it. It has worked well for us, but see your local codes before installing the gas line and heater. They may require a different configuration. Have a great day.
      propanedepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Martin-MDV-Installation-Manual-2018.pdf

  • @LarryeWhite61
    @LarryeWhite61 6 місяців тому +2

    I just don't trust these LP pressure regulators that don't even have a 0-3 psi gauge as part of it. I WANT to know exactly what the LP pressure is. I added a "T fitting" so I could add the low psi gauge and monitor the pressure. I set mine at 0.5psi with the heater set on Max output.

  • @redddustin
    @redddustin 9 місяців тому +2

    Great Vid! whereabouts is your cabin? I'm in Arizona and land is hard to come by and not as pretty.

  • @cesararellanes6188
    @cesararellanes6188 3 місяці тому +2

    Hi Fearless Rambler. I saw your video about propane. I have an off-grid home that uses propane from a 400lb propane tank for a stove, dryer, bbq, and most recently a furnace. It seems the furnace does not get enough gas to stay on when the furnace kicks on while using the BBQ or stove. I was thinking of adding a y brass adapter to the tank and attaching two 2-stage pressure regulators at each end and attaching the furnace gas to one and the rest of the home to the other, but I'm not sure this is the best solution. Do you have any insights as to what is the best solution? Any help or guidance is apprecaited. Thank you!

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  3 місяці тому +2

      Something quickly came to mind is your stove burner ports are setup for natural gas and not LPG. Your 400 lb tank should have enough surface area to allow for proper flow for most multiple LPG applications. A 100 gal/420 lb propane tank should be good enough for all of your cooking and heating needs, as well as multiple appliances. Depending on the amount of propane you use, you may want to install more than one of these cylinders, or possibly even a larger one. LPG grills can suck up a lot of gas flow. RV regulators also have a tendency of going bad and restricting flow. Oftentimes, it's the internal diaphragm that breaks. It is said that a Two-stage propane system regulators are designed to ensure consistent delivery pressure and efficient operation. These regulators are particularly adept at minimizing the supply pressure effect and accommodating a significant amount of droop, which is the variance in delivery pressure from no flow to maximum flow. The two-stage design allows for a steady pressure output, even as the propane tank's pressure decreases, which is crucial for maintaining safety and performance. For your Idea of using multiple regulators, I have not tried that. Hope you have luck with that. A (home) residential application will require a low pressure regulator which reduces the gas pressure to 6 ounces (10.5 inches water column). This low pressure regulator will be located on or near the main supply tank to the home, motor home, or camper. So you might want to calculate the required flow needed to operate you applications at the same time. Your main regulator might not allow enough flow to meet your needs. Using a RV two-stage regulator, the first stage drops the vapor pressure to approximately 10 to 15 psi, and the second stage further reduces operating pressure to 11 inches of water column. Hope this helps, if this did not, still have a great day.

    • @cesararellanes6188
      @cesararellanes6188 3 місяці тому +2

      @@FearlessRambler thank you so much for your guidance!

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  3 місяці тому +1

      @@cesararellanes6188 Your welcome

  • @BeastModeNow
    @BeastModeNow 10 місяців тому +2

    You’re exactly like my dad…anyway….
    Does your regulator have a 1/2” outlet or 3/8”?
    My current set up with the same heater from tank to heater: single lp regulator to 3/8” to 1/2” CSST running about 15’ ft to 1/2” iron pipe to 1/2” valve 3/8 adapter fittings to stove. And I cant get the pilot to ignite. No leaks in the line. I’m wondering if maybe I need 3/4” gas lines for higher pressure…thoughts?

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  10 місяців тому +2

      Thnx for the complement, I have a 3/8. 1/2 gas line should work with a LPG stove, but tank size could matter. Surface area in the tank could be the problem.

    • @BrokenRRT
      @BrokenRRT 8 місяців тому +2

      Your regulator is stuck or faulty.
      Bang on it while no pressure is going to it. I have same issue happen every winter after my regulator has sat unused. Plus purging takes a lot longer than you think it will. I have to purge from the heater for 2-3 minutes holding down my pilot knob.

  • @tomvincent3598
    @tomvincent3598 10 місяців тому +2

    You said 100lb tanks 4 foot tall...and u used 40 or 60lb tanks.....will 100lb tanks work ?

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  10 місяців тому +1

      The 100# tanks will work wonderfully, but they are heavy to move around.

  • @lynntheokie8370
    @lynntheokie8370 Рік тому +2

    Hey

  • @johnpaulcurtis3502
    @johnpaulcurtis3502 10 місяців тому +1

    What regulator is that?

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  10 місяців тому +1

      Cant remember, but I will head up this week and check for.

  • @TheRealRonRico317
    @TheRealRonRico317 10 місяців тому +2

    Do you propane for heat during the winter????

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  10 місяців тому +1

      We don't go up during the winter, but it keeps us nice a warm during the cool fall.

    • @TheRealRonRico317
      @TheRealRonRico317 10 місяців тому +1

      @@FearlessRambler what is the consumption like on the propane?

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  10 місяців тому +2

      I understand that a 30# Propane tank (7 gallons) runs around 30hrs at 20,000 BTU. Our Shed is well insulated so we don’t run the heater all the time. Usually, to break the chill off in the morning. The fuel consumption is .926 lbs/hr. We did not use a whole 30# tank throughout the fall. If we ran it throughout the winter, I would install two 100# tanks. Have a great day.

    • @TheRealRonRico317
      @TheRealRonRico317 10 місяців тому +2

      @@FearlessRambler that helps a lot thank you.

  • @majscrap2629
    @majscrap2629 10 місяців тому +1

    So you modified a regulator. Not everyone can do that The usefulness of this video stopped there.

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  10 місяців тому +1

      Didn't modify the regulator, just built a mount for a cabin and installed the lines per code. Have a great day.

    • @Icutmetal
      @Icutmetal 7 місяців тому +2

      So you misunderstood the video…

  • @macrefinerymartinez1430
    @macrefinerymartinez1430 5 місяців тому +2

    Sorry. You are not 'off-grid" if you are running to a hardware store for propane.

    • @FearlessRambler
      @FearlessRambler  5 місяців тому +2

      It is only two hours away to get propane, I designed this project so it feels that it's not off grid, though no cell, spring water and solar makes it feel like home.