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Switching from Electric to Propane Stove
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2015
- We are switching from electric to propane for our stove. This stove will need no electricity to power it! In this video I will show you how I piped it.
The 2 stage regulator is not for safety. 2 stages are needed because you are trying to regulate the pressure down from around 120psi to 0.397psi that is zero POINT 397, just over 1/3 of one psi. It is just not possible to do that reduction accurately and economically in a single stage. Each stage does a reduction of around a factor of 10. The first stage takes the pressure from 120psi to 10psi and the second stage takes it from 10psi to 11 inches of water colum which is 0.397psi.
The vent of this two stage regulator should be pointing down, not at the wall of the house.
I love what you did! My experience with ZIP Strips outside is the UV will make it brittle and break, maybe get some wire,,,
Thank you for the info. Good stuff. Also, I love how you're packing that piece on your side. I Use to live in FL and loved that freedom to carry with a permit. Unfortunately I live in NY now and can't even legally carry a butter knife for protection. I loved the propane installation conversion video, but I also enjoyed the beauty of having the freedom to carry that piece on your side in your state.
That is wonderful! What a perfect job. I love a gas/propane stove and I'm going to switch mine out too. I really like the 30 lb. tank you have there, I don't think I have seen them here, just the smaller and larger ones. I've been looking at a very small stove, it's only 20" - 24" wide and it's really nice. I have missed gas/propane for many years, and it cooks so much better, and faster too. Years ago you didn't have shut off valves, and I know nothing about them, so I'm going to have to check on the codes for the oven. I'm really glad you mentioned it. The one thing I love about them is that not only can you cook, it can keep the house warm too! Great Video, and thank you for the information. Bless, Sheila
+Sheila6325 The small stove is a lot more efficient. Check out Premier. They make stoves that size i think . All there stuff is made in the USA.
benchmade55 I always try to find "made in USA" and they are few and far between. I will check them out. The one I saw was at Lowes, but I haven't done real searching yet, but will want it right after Christmas, good sales then too. One thing your videos on this has done for me is, that it assured me that I will have to have them install it, and make the conversions too. I have done a lot on appliances in my homes, but I will not fool with propane, it needs more experience than what I have with propane for an oven. Thank you for the stove information, I will check it out right now. Bless, Sheila
+Homestead Handyman This in itself is very helpful, was struggling to find a 24 inch range and not only are they 24 inch, but made in the United States. Further, great tank solution for a stove and avoids the 100 pound, or worse, a huge tank in the yard.
Packing a side arm and bars on the windows....................Murica, such a lovely place.
Nice video thanks. Btw you may want to change the support bracket holding the inside valve.
When dissimilar metels i.e. copper and steel they can create corrosive effect "galvanic effect"
Good advice 👍
They make those threaded rod brackets in copper.
Looks sooo nice and I’m so glad to have found this, otherwise I would never have thought of using a smaller set up.
I too, live in the country, well actually in the mountains and when we get snow and ice we can lose our power fast and as you say, there’s no way to cook and with only electric in the kitchen it is freezing, and a gas range will generate a little heat.
I have a pretty big house and 1/2 of it is heated by electric and the other half is heated by propane, so I already have a 200 gallon tank on one side of my home and I have been stressing 😩 over adding another tank to the other end of my home. Now, that I’ve seen your convenient little trick, I realized that the same set up would serve me well❗️And, thanks for the tip on the type of range to buy. As you know they always try to sell you the ones with all the bells and whistles. So, thank you for that nice tidbit of info.
Now, if I only had a handsome husband to install it. 😏 Your wife is very fortunate to have you❗️
Oh, before I forget. I love the tiles you added, but you still better use lids when you’re frying. Popping grease takes no prisoners. LOL
ENJOY YOUR NEW RANGE. It’s lovely.
Thanks for your kind words. The stove is working out great. my bride loves cooking on gas much better!
Sweet! I was wondering if a propane stove would work in my off-grid, yet permanent camper that I will be living in on my property, and this set up is exactly what I wanted to do.
Why wouldn’t a propane stove work in a camper??
@@Icutmetal i dunno…i think they are kind of scary. I got blown ip as a kid…well just my hair caught on fire. Anyway, i saw your reply. I’m no longer living in the camper. I have a quaint, 2-room cabin and just use appliances now.
Gas is so much nicer to cook on. Enjoyed the video.
+Carolina Prepper thanks cant wait to use it
They make a better regulator for $50 that RVs use in a dual tank setup. It pulls gas from one tank and when it's empty it switches to the other tank. The bonus is it has an indicator for which tank is empty. Also, you can remove the empty tank while it's still working and take it to be filled so you don't run out of gas.
Those are not “better” this particular regulator is very high quality now you maybe talking about convenience and if that’s the case you are correct
Were can i find one like that?
That's not necessarily better. Range requires more BTUs than the little camper one..
Thank you for your info.
I have to ask: what’s the handgun on the hip for?
Security for the insecure.
Great video. Where did you purchase the Tee with a check valve? I have looked and can't find one. Thanks.
I need to know what regulator to use for my two 100 pound tanks
I just did something similar, though added 2 100 lb tanks with CSST running through attic ProFlex Flak Jacket. I see you did not ground or bound the tanks. Why not?
Nice Setup
Where can I find that regulator?
Is there not a rubber grommet you can get to fill the void where the copper pipe goes into the house .. just a thought .
Expanding foam works too.
Excellent
Thank you so much 😀
Very nice, Thank you. I'm doing a new construction like this.
What did you use to seal the pressure fitting connections? I always have tiny leaks.
I had the same idea after a kitchen remodel.. Will be adding a propane stove. Its my plan anyway.. My better half is worried about burn time.. What is the average per tank you think?
We bake or own bread and use the stove a lot. We get about 3-4 months per 30 lb tank
@@homesteadhandyman4481 she said.. Shit at burn times. That's good lol. I kept telling her it was worth it.. Thanks for the reply man
I get 2-3 months out of a tank for my family of 3 on a 20 lb tank. Now I have 2 30s with a switching regulator. I have a gas range but am moving the dryer, water heater and my fireplace to gas (for heating) here in FL.
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@@theFLsharkwhere did you get your regulator,? Thx!
I've been looking for a long while, to find out why most indoor propane 'fireplaces' usually require using a 100LB tank.
I have a 10.16 small cabin I want a 10,000 btu propane log fireplace in. But most places I've looked, say to go with a blue flame wall heaters b/c you can use smaller (40, 30 & even 20LB ) tanks with. But I really want a propane log fireplace and, I see you're using 2 smaller tanks for a stove. So, I'm just trying to find out what I must do, to be able to use smaller tanks for a "Fireplace." Most folks say you have to have the pressure of a 100LB tank which you don't get w/a smaller tank. Can a regulator give you the pressure of a 100LB tank? Or is there something else one can do, to use smaller tanks dependably & safely? It's nice to hear that you've been doing this with your stove for a while. But that is a little bit different than a ventless fireplace. Would really appreciate any help in this matter. Thx!
I’ll subscribe to anyone that carries a firearm during the making of a video. Bravo sir. Great job. I’ve always wondered about a manifold line for propane tanks. Very interesting indeed.
Nice job.
+Buckrun11 Thanks
What size line did you use from the outside regulator? The only two stage changeover regulator I could find had a 3/8 “ outlet. Good video!
I had originally installed 3/4" black pipe with 1/2" nipples for my appliances then decided not to use gas. That was a number of years ago. Now I want to use a propane stove and have the 30# tanks but can't seem get the stove to light after my installation. Everything has been pressure tested, soaped and it's all tight. Is it possible that there isn't enough pressure in the line to keep the propane moving? My regulator shows that the tank is empty and I just filled them.
where did you purchase the regulator and copper tubing? I'm interested in doing this as well
Direct from a propane store
Grounded?
What does commercial grade mean? What is the size of the copper pipe, what is M size vs L size? What fittings do you use to connect to the stove inside the house?
I am not sure if this has been asked or answered. But, I am trying to hook up my gas range to a propane tank but the gas line attached to the Range doesn’t connect to the propane line. Can you help me figure out what part I need to make this happen please
suggestions.. but this is a 5 year old video... 🤔 anyways.. i suggest for looks i would clear away growing grass & weeds. level ground.. put down a good weed barrier.. then 16" x 16" paving stones.. and for storm safety strap tanks to the wall as enough to hold from falling but loose to remove to refill. also i suggest NEVER put any fitting inside home like couplings or T fittings. ive seen flare fittings leak. and ive seen people use compression " water only " fittings used 😱 OH... and to add VERY IMPORTANT.... personally ive had more than once gas shutoff valves fall apart or leak.. AND those screw on at the tank dial gauge meter to show remaining gas in tank.. i had one pouring gas out as i turned it on NEW so i dont recommend them.. total fire hazzard.
What size lines are you using from tanks to regulator and from regulator to stove? Thanks Great video!
If I remember correctly, it’s 3/8OD lines to the regulator and 5/8 OD going into the house
Change those clamps Inside to prevent galvanic corrosion. Get copper clamps.
So many things to comment on and I haven't even finished the video!
First, I think examining the fire code will find the tanks are too close to the foundation vent In use of gas leak or a relief valve opening do you really want to chance gas getting under the house?
The regulator is positioned wrong. The vent needs to be straight down. They was it is mounted moisture could be trapped inside the regulator.
Where the line goes trough the wall should be sleeved so the line is protected.
Oh, and type L is not hard copper
Thanks Mike , I will look into the items you mentioned and take care of them!
What kind of Regulator do you need for an external 40 gallon propane tank?
Do you have both valves open, at the same time. Or one tank at a time?
nice one buy gas detecter would be a good idea cheers
Been thinking about switching to propane. I wonder how much those last with normal use.
+The Covenant My Dad had one up in upstate NY and said he got 11 months from 2-30 lb tanks and my Mom cooks a lot. I will see how it goes here. I bet you are enjoying all that venison, I had goat for the first time about a week ago. BBq the backstrap slow cooking. It was yummy!
Nice
GOOD JOB. It will be much better if u used black pipe its more stronger even the coper L TYPE meant to be for refrigeration and gas. Try to put some insulation to help u out with pressure changes
Good Advice! Thanks
Black Iron harder to work with for this lil project.
Where did you get the brass fittings: a) the part that T's out of the regulator? b) the two that fit on that T fitting? c) the ones that hook to the propane tanks?
Trying to reproduce your set up but having a bit of a time finding those fittings where I live.
I got them at a propane store
How often do you have to swap out?
We go through one tank every 3-4 months. But keep in mind we cook a lot of high temp bread.
What kind of stove did you get?
Ya I did this and now my town is forcing me to use "permanent connections" my town said "I have to go with a company and can't hook up small tanks" I don't know why. Pissed me off because I don't have money to be buying and renting tanks from a propane hookup company
Thats to bad. We are out in the country so we did not have that problem.
Homestead Handyman. I had it hooked up like that for 20 years to and just recently they said "you can't do that" crazy because I live in a small country looking town but the democrats started winning here in the last 4 years and now they go after everyone including raising property taxes. Makes me want to move.
You should be using permanent hookups for your own safety.
what is the check valve called when looking for one
do you know the size of the female fitting on the line coming out of the house?
Looks like 1/2 inch
you cant isolate each leg of the feed aside from the valve on the tank? that shit looks janky asf and my local code inspector would pull full histrionic
Nothing about his set up is up to code. He better hope the insurance company doesn’t see this.
My new house has utility gas but no gas stove. I want a gas grill for outdoor cooking, but chances are, even in NG served Prince George, most grills are propane. Wat do?
You can buy grills that are setup for natural gas!
@@homesteadhandyman4481 I know. But I'm thinking to bum one off the classifieds because I'm on a fixed income. So really I need an easy conversion that ideally can still run LPG afterward
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 Some grill manufactures make an adapter kit to switch from propane to NG ,good luck!
@@homesteadhandyman4481 I'll need your good luck :)
Is the pistol there in case the camera attacks you. BTW: The pressure in the tank is the same whether the “sun is beating down” or not. Also, the piping should be iron not copper. Copper is too soft and subject to damage.
Looks like another neurotic gun nut. I will look elsewhere for my info.
What size copper tubing is the main line and size of other copper tubing also?
The copper pipes that are coming out of the tanks are one size and are called Copper POL pig tails. And the copper coming out of the regulator looks like 1/2 inch.
Guns and propane?
If you included God and pizza it would be the perfect vidja.
Omg he has a gun!!!! Lol here come the comments
Well, it is not one of those black scary guns that melts snowflakes.
How do you handle the carbon monoxide the propane produces?
Properly operated it will not produce carbon monoxide. Unless a home is so airtight it needs an air exchanger any fumes from operation will not be a problem
Whats the name of the T
Where can I refill 30lbs tank? Home Depot?
Propane store, sometimes Tractor Supply and Ace Hardware.
Thank you. I have completed my project. I used 15 foot black 1/2 inch pipe and flexible yellow gas pipe for tanks. @homesteadhandyman4481
Where can i found regulations for installing cylinders propane for a pro kitchen?
The Texas Propane Gas Association
Regulations can be difficult. Most states have adopted NFPA Pamphlet 58 for outdoor fuel gas piping and Pamphlet 54 for indoor. But the states usually adopt a certain edition. For instance Illinois has adopted Pamphlet 58 2011 edition. For the most part there won't be a difference. But a newer edition may allow or not allow things the earlier didn't. When you download the free version at www.nfpa.org/assets/files/aboutthecodes/58/58-98-pdf.pdf you get the 1998 version. You need to know what edition applies to your situation. Understanding them involves a bit studying and looking for the exceptions.
I'll mention this now since it hasn't been addressed much. With limitations (distance from ignition sources, windows, vents, etc) a tank under 125 gallons can be right up against the house. But over that it needs to be at least 10 feet away and 25 is better. Speaking as a volunteer fire fighter I like a 25 foot minimum
And you still have state and local regulations. Some municipalities my not allow certain things. Plus you said "pro kitchen". That implies commercial use which then typically involves the health department and more regulations.
Where is the sediment leg?
You should have showed the whole thing from beginning till end now im lost thanks alot!!
as a non american i really do question if carrying a gun with you where you are at your house is really nessicary
It is always necessary!
Of course it's not necessary.
Depends if there are snakes around there or not. Around where I live packing a pistol around when you're outside is never a bad idea.
Does it offend your sensitivities?
People and their fucking guns. I do own guns btw.....
L is for domestic water m is for heating! Just saying.
Then ,why the landlord
say it's was illegal .
Definitely not legal where i am. Minimum 10ft away from a house. Or any building
Ummmmmmmm ... what's with the sidearm ??? I did't think propane was that dangerous ????
All dangerous if u dont know what your doing
Hahahaha! He is wearing a gun
And it’s bothering you how ?
It seems u felt insecured while making this video 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Not sure what you mean but 5 years later it is working out great. Thanks for watching!
@@homesteadhandyman4481 i meant you revolver .
Are you alive or did you blow up?
If you have to have a gun on you to make it simple video at home well you should move out of that neighborhood
Sounds like another brain dead liberal, I’m pretty sure his neighbors is not his concern.
WTF do you need a gun for to install a gas line?? I have several guns but thats ridiculous..lol..
I’ll bet yours is all locked up in a nice safe place. Which means you have no way of protecting yourself or your family is someone wanted to hurt you. Like this guy mine is always locked and loaded on me. Oh wait you probably call 911
Fire code violation propane tanks must be 10 feet from any opening looks like there is a small
basement window next to him
All he would have to do is close window/block off.
But does that apply to 20 gallon tanks?
Only if filled on site.
Tanks are not filled onsite. They are fine there.
Most places is 3 ft for this size tank. Not all places even have regs.
He carrys a gun to show that he's a bad ass!
Fred Kaminski or maybe you sooke because you're a dumbass. He said he lives out in the country. Same as me, far out, lose pwr alot. Also if hes like me, we have black bears, coyote, mountain lion, copperhead ...damn sttaight we carry gun outside...especially when doing a several your project focused on our work all the while jammed and trapped in a corner of our home with our back turned. I cant say how many times ive almost been surprised by an animal. Maybe think b4 u speak. Not everybody lives in a culdesac with mcdonalds 2 miles away.......and I thank God for that :-)
He carries a gun because he can!