The last several years I have really been buying more echo to replace the worn out sthils… better price, cheaper chains, awesome performance and reliability!
Hi Chris, I'm using the 3 brands, the Stihl, Husqvarna and Echo, and in the trainings, the Echo lasts longer and is less expensive in maintenance, so I agree with you.
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining I haven’t used Husky much. I only have a few, but I do like them especially the battery powered top handles. But I really like that I can set up a truck with Echo for about $2500. A couple groundie saws, a few top handles, blower and a pole saw and everyone is happy with them. We do add a bottle of red armor or true fuel to each gallon of 2 stroke mix and that seems to help them run better, especially on really hot or really cold days here in Denver metro. After a few hours of break in we always adjust and tweak them a bit due to the altitude 😀
Echo chain was definitely sharper. I’ve used all 3 and the 201 and 540 definitely more power than the 362 or 355. The echo is definitely a great saw for power to price though
So the point is which us faster right ? We buy a top handle saw to go to competition not to work. I use stihl and i have and one echo pole saw. The pole saw is not so strong as stihl pole saw.
Reattach the handle to the cord at the length it is, after it breaks. It’ll be one wrap shorter, but it won’t break again. Something about the way the cord wraps in the pulley, at full length, sometimes the last wrap lays too high and gets nicked by the flywheel.
The Echo and the Husqvarna were equipped with the same new Chain (Oregon 91VXL) the Stihl was equipped with the PS3 and it was filed a little bit, but also razor sharp.
You can literally see operators holding back saws competing against Echo. This may fool the average Joe but not me, been playing with saws for too long.
I have the 2511t ported the muffler and changed the sprocket to a 1/4 pitch running on a 12" stihl bar and chain and WOW turned it from a homeowner saw to a bad ass and I'm just wondering how the 355t would handle that probably blow the husqvarna and stihl out the water
I have an echo 303t I believe it's called. Just use it for something quick and light to cut and move brush outta the yards I mow. Its been treated like shit for years as if nobody gives a dam about it lol. Gave $200 for it off the display rack. It still fires right up and runs like new today. Ill always pick echo because of price and reliability. Course I don't climb trees for a living so there's that lol.
I use both saws still 201 and echo 355. The still is more balanced, and lighter. The echo is slightly heavier not as well balanced for one-handed use. You should always use two hands to cut so that is not a problem, the echo is close to half the price and have found it to be more reliable in the Long haul. It looks like I'm starting to go echo..
Strange. Last time I put them all 3 powerheads on the same scales ECHO 362 was just above 3627g, MS 201 3711g and 540xp 3953g. Notably 362 has a catalytic converter so 355 will be even lighter. As for the balance - all 3 have a decent front-rear balance with correct bar&chain but 540 has the worst weight shift on the starter side. Are you sure your 355 has a comparable bar&chain combo to 201?
No way. I have an echo 355 t and a 201 tc. The echo is a decent saw but its not even close to the stihl. I would think the 540 would be close to the stihl. The echo is half the price, twice the vibration and 2/3 the power. I am a pro and run them for entire life cycles in about 2 years.
I know that echo trimmers and blowers are way ahead of Stihl. Can't speak for the saws but I know you save quite a bit of money if you go with echo and there solid as a rock.
It would be great of echo to admit that reliability and price are their strength, not performance (except for the 2511, that saw is a class on its own)
My saw and a sharp blade is my favorite. I have an echo on my next list as i like the price and the blowers seem great. Stihl seems like they changed the recipe.
This was a great video to show Howard worn out stihl could still compete against husky and echo with brand new bars and chains put a new bar and chain on that stihl and it will blow them out of the water. I have both that echo and that stihl and the stihl is way better.
There's something clearly going on with the Stihl! That saw should never ever bog on something like that! Every 200/201 I've used. Would eat anything the length of the bar could touch! Obviously I was an arborist and trimmed trees for close to 10yrs! That Stihl should be cranking out at a much higher RPM! I've ran it with a 12in and a 14in bar all year round throughout cold ass winters and humid ass summers. Never did I have a Stihl act like that, unless something was clearly wrong with it! IDC what anyone says, when it comes to professional grade saws. Stihl is king! There were days in the winter where it was freezing like - 10 some days. It was when I first started and I ran a MS361 groyndsaw and 200T trim saw. I would pray to God neither one would start. The trucks didn't start, the chippers struggled. But the saws, always started. One or two pulls on full Choke. One on half Choke, it'd fire right up. Pop the brake off and let it Rev up on half Choke for a sec. Then hit the throttle and it would kick the Choke off completely and scream. Every single time! We didn't even have to adjust it for winter settings. We ran echos at one point, and I hated using them! They were dogs! I could do a fast slash cut on a 4/5in tree and have it drop and spear right in the ground. The echo always had issues and we never tried it. At least not on the trees between the power lines! Husky has cheap ass plastic controls so damn chincy, the husky and the echo have fucking primers FFS! The stihl does not. That's a good way to know if it's a homeowner saw or a professional saw! Some husky ground saws are OK. But not professionally, imo.
@@MrThorMNFinest just proves how blind you are :) Cutting persons stay at the same sides while saws are changing. This lack of admission phenomenon is called fanboyism and can be seen next to any chainsaw video.
@@lokaniukas how does not being able to read make me blind? I can still see stuff.. jeez. Either way tho ! What in tarnation does a child holding a fan have anything to do with chainsaws. Which were never exchanged. I did not see any trade agreements. Nor did anyone shake hands to signify the completion of an exchange. In my country when you exchange someone you shake hands. Id deal is not meet, you spit on ur hand hock a big loogie right into ur palm and then shake hands. Let’s em know what you think of their girly handshake.
@@lokaniukas by the way I am an unmarried man so… cut some slack. Or actually that would not make senses. Being no wife be no leash. I pee on every leash that comes near me. Even a dogs leash. One time a girl asked to something called a Promna in high school. Quickly I pull my Winnie out and pee on her face. Then they told me I could not go to Promna. Was so happy to hear that. Who wants to sit in a max security Promna cell for a long time. Then come parbole
Same length just worn out guide bar and chain funny how the echo and husky had brand new bars and chains but the stihl looked like the bar and chain were 20 years old
All stihl does anymore is make 15 different versions of the same rear handle saw. We don’t need anymore felling saws. There’s a real issue with climbing saws. There hasn’t been any real advancement in 20 years.
@@briankennedy1313 honestly I believe your comment for the most part it’s correct, although I think echo has try to do something different which is go lighter, the 2511t is a little beast especially ported, but another point I think also differs from your comment is battery powered, even though we still need more technology for battery life I believe battery powered saws are staring a trend.
All these companies need to cancel all the smaller gas saws, make lower grade battery saw and a pro level one (Husqvarna already has), and focus on one pro gas top handle that’s the best effort they could possibly accomplish.
The last several years I have really been buying more echo to replace the worn out sthils… better price, cheaper chains, awesome performance and reliability!
Hi Chris, I'm using the 3 brands, the Stihl, Husqvarna and Echo, and in the trainings, the Echo lasts longer and is less expensive in maintenance, so I agree with you.
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining I haven’t used Husky much. I only have a few, but I do like them especially the battery powered top handles. But I really like that I can set up a truck with Echo for about $2500. A couple groundie saws, a few top handles, blower and a pole saw and everyone is happy with them. We do add a bottle of red armor or true fuel to each gallon of 2 stroke mix and that seems to help them run better, especially on really hot or really cold days here in Denver metro. After a few hours of break in we always adjust and tweak them a bit due to the altitude 😀
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Echo power wasn't expecting that 💪
Echo chain was definitely sharper. I’ve used all 3 and the 201 and 540 definitely more power than the 362 or 355. The echo is definitely a great saw for power to price though
So the point is which us faster right ?
We buy a top handle saw to go to competition not to work.
I use stihl and i have and one echo pole saw.
The pole saw is not so strong as stihl pole saw.
I’ve been running sthil for almost 7 years and the only problem I’ve ram into was breaking the pull cord.
Reattach the handle to the cord at the length it is, after it breaks. It’ll be one wrap shorter, but it won’t break again. Something about the way the cord wraps in the pulley, at full length, sometimes the last wrap lays too high and gets nicked by the flywheel.
7 years ago stihl was “stihl” a good company
Interesting video was the echo a lot sharper?
The Echo and the Husqvarna were equipped with the same new Chain (Oregon 91VXL) the Stihl was equipped with the PS3 and it was filed a little bit, but also razor sharp.
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining OK cool I was just wondering why the echo was so much faster
@@mulletcraft6247 Sharpness was equal, the only thing was that the CS-362TES was adjusted correctly. That's a huge difference.
@@mulletcraft6247 longer bar on sthil
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You can literally see operators holding back saws competing against Echo. This may fool the average Joe but not me, been playing with saws for too long.
…and an old chain on the Stihl. Was probably the only way to make it lose.
Antisemite
Personally I do not like echo. I still buy sthil products and have no issues people complain about.
This product is sold for 350 dollars in Turkey, both
economically and with performance. Echo 25 11
I have the 2511t ported the muffler and changed the sprocket to a 1/4 pitch running on a 12" stihl bar and chain and WOW turned it from a homeowner saw to a bad ass and I'm just wondering how the 355t would handle that probably blow the husqvarna and stihl out the water
The 2511 wasn't a homeowner saw to begin with. lol.
@@OTEP1234567891011 pretty close I climb trees and cut trees all year but go ahead and tell me your professional opinion "lol"
@@luluschannel9862 I climb and cut trees all year. Go ahead and tell me your professional opinion.
The 2511 is a pro saw not a homeowner
I have an echo 303t I believe it's called. Just use it for something quick and light to cut and move brush outta the yards I mow. Its been treated like shit for years as if nobody gives a dam about it lol. Gave $200 for it off the display rack. It still fires right up and runs like new today. Ill always pick echo because of price and reliability. Course I don't climb trees for a living so there's that lol.
The Stihl 200 is the one u want. The 201 replaced it because of emissions plus it’s also tuned way down.
200 is a pound heavier and a gas hog... it's better in every other way imo
Echo fan boy even with the gloves
lol
I use both saws still 201 and echo 355. The still is more balanced, and lighter. The echo is slightly heavier not as well balanced for one-handed use. You should always use two hands to cut so that is not a problem, the echo is close to half the price and have found it to be more reliable in the Long haul. It looks like I'm starting to go echo..
Strange. Last time I put them all 3 powerheads on the same scales ECHO 362 was just above 3627g, MS 201 3711g and 540xp 3953g. Notably 362 has a catalytic converter so 355 will be even lighter. As for the balance - all 3 have a decent front-rear balance with correct bar&chain but 540 has the worst weight shift on the starter side. Are you sure your 355 has a comparable bar&chain combo to 201?
I also differ the 355t is very well balanced holding it one handed and it is also lighter than other both saws
STIHL (steel) not still
@@richardfuerst5286 it’s called auto correct
Only thing I learned is that the user on the left was better at using saws lol
No way. I have an echo 355 t and a 201 tc. The echo is a decent saw but its not even close to the stihl. I would think the 540 would be close to the stihl. The echo is half the price, twice the vibration and 2/3 the power. I am a pro and run them for entire life cycles in about 2 years.
The 540 is ALOT better than the stihl
My 355 cuts faster than my 201s. I also hate how the handle is on the stihl
He has this Echo tuned good.
I'm a certified Echo tech and I work on Stihl all the time as well. I would trust Echo any day Stihl is good but not as good as it used to be.
I know that echo trimmers and blowers are way ahead of Stihl. Can't speak for the saws but I know you save quite a bit of money if you go with echo and there solid as a rock.
Works great for meat n flesh !!! Thank you just the saw I needed. Now for the rest of this mess.
Whow much is it?
Moin
Very interessting results. Thanks for your videos!
Greetings Dirk
What about Active 3939 ?
It would be great of echo to admit that reliability and price are their strength, not performance (except for the 2511, that saw is a class on its own)
My saw and a sharp blade is my favorite. I have an echo on my next list as i like the price and the blowers seem great. Stihl seems like they changed the recipe.
What’s the difference between the CS360, 361 and 362?
362 has a different cylinder plating.
This was a great video to show Howard worn out stihl could still compete against husky and echo with brand new bars and chains put a new bar and chain on that stihl and it will blow them out of the water. I have both that echo and that stihl and the stihl is way better.
Lol phone fixed how a to howard
Didn’t notice if any of the saws were ported and or piped. Makes a difference. The old STIHL ported and piped would slay.
That echo was putting in work
There's something clearly going on with the Stihl! That saw should never ever bog on something like that! Every 200/201 I've used. Would eat anything the length of the bar could touch! Obviously I was an arborist and trimmed trees for close to 10yrs! That Stihl should be cranking out at a much higher RPM! I've ran it with a 12in and a 14in bar all year round throughout cold ass winters and humid ass summers. Never did I have a Stihl act like that, unless something was clearly wrong with it! IDC what anyone says, when it comes to professional grade saws. Stihl is king! There were days in the winter where it was freezing like - 10 some days. It was when I first started and I ran a MS361 groyndsaw and 200T trim saw. I would pray to God neither one would start. The trucks didn't start, the chippers struggled. But the saws, always started. One or two pulls on full Choke. One on half Choke, it'd fire right up. Pop the brake off and let it Rev up on half Choke for a sec. Then hit the throttle and it would kick the Choke off completely and scream. Every single time! We didn't even have to adjust it for winter settings. We ran echos at one point, and I hated using them! They were dogs! I could do a fast slash cut on a 4/5in tree and have it drop and spear right in the ground. The echo always had issues and we never tried it. At least not on the trees between the power lines! Husky has cheap ass plastic controls so damn chincy, the husky and the echo have fucking primers FFS! The stihl does not. That's a good way to know if it's a homeowner saw or a professional saw! Some husky ground saws are OK. But not professionally, imo.
What is primer FFS
The chain on the Stihl was old (filed half way), the other two had new chains.
@@MrThorMNFinest primer bulb sucks the air out of the carburetor and draws fuel up, to start it after it’s been sitting too long.
@@MrThorMNFinest FFS: expression of disapproval/disappointment
When you see the guy wearing echo branded gloves you can pretty well tell which one is going to cut faster lol
How about the other guy who doesn't wear it? They exchange the saws.
@@lokaniukas they exchange nothing.
@@MrThorMNFinest just proves how blind you are :) Cutting persons stay at the same sides while saws are changing. This lack of admission phenomenon is called fanboyism and can be seen next to any chainsaw video.
@@lokaniukas how does not being able to read make me blind? I can still see stuff.. jeez. Either way tho ! What in tarnation does a child holding a fan have anything to do with chainsaws. Which were never exchanged. I did not see any trade agreements. Nor did anyone shake hands to signify the completion of an exchange. In my country when you exchange someone you shake hands. Id deal is not meet, you spit on ur hand hock a big loogie right into ur palm and then shake hands. Let’s em know what you think of their girly handshake.
@@lokaniukas by the way I am an unmarried man so… cut some slack. Or actually that would not make senses. Being no wife be no leash. I pee on every leash that comes near me. Even a dogs leash. One time a girl asked to something called a Promna in high school. Quickly I pull my Winnie out and pee on her face. Then they told me I could not go to Promna. Was so happy to hear that. Who wants to sit in a max security Promna cell for a long time. Then come parbole
The best ECHO.
MS 200 T. Der best.
Did the Stihl have a longer guide bar than the echo?
Same length 30cm/12inch
Same length just worn out guide bar and chain funny how the echo and husky had brand new bars and chains but the stihl looked like the bar and chain were 20 years old
Echo ALL THE WAY... EVERYDAY
Does that 362 have a cat?
Yes and so was/is the CS360TES and CS-361WES :)
Agree. I call bs on this.
Operators holding back
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I’ll probably just rebuild my 200t when it dies
Yes, I have one myself. The MS200T was THE top handle chainsaw.
Se te hase justa la comparacion usando una still ya muy trabajada pero muy trabajada
Echo all the way
I love echo! always new they could eventually make a saw better than the 201 🤙🤙
All stihl does anymore is make 15 different versions of the same rear handle saw. We don’t need anymore felling saws. There’s a real issue with climbing saws. There hasn’t been any real advancement in 20 years.
@@briankennedy1313 honestly I believe your comment for the most part it’s correct, although I think echo has try to do something different which is go lighter, the 2511t is a little beast especially ported, but another point I think also differs from your comment is battery powered, even though we still need more technology for battery life I believe battery powered saws are staring a trend.
Husqavarna was the winner
😂
Non sono macchine nelle stesse condizioni.
Catene ?
Regolazioni ?
Queste prove non hanno senso.
echo sper top markoto👍👍👍
Put a new chain on the Stihl and try again. 😒
They were all equiped with new chains...
@@JanMaesOutdoorTraining 0:04
Can't beat echo
The stihl is a better saw by far
Uhmmm...YES you can.
@@aussiehardwood6196 no! You can not !! 😮
@@mathews0618 Corn Pops in ur rectum.
I love my echo 355t
HUSKY BABY
😂😂😂😂😂 husky is a Baby. And babies don’t belong anywhere near where a man works.
Echo top
Husqvarnaxp 540 XP ll.chainsaw
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Use the teeth
Haha what a joke
All these companies need to cancel all the smaller gas saws, make lower grade battery saw and a pro level one (Husqvarna already has), and focus on one pro gas top handle that’s the best effort they could possibly accomplish.
Battery powered pro saws are trash 🗑 need 20 batteries to make it thru the day,alot of vibration as well since there so light with having no gas motor
Efforts to what ? Impress the EPA? I’m just curious. Are you EPA? Cause I might be.