Thor knew Kratos as an animal. The god butcher. The foreign savage that murdered his pantheon but in that moment where Kratos tells him they have to be better for their children's sake, Thor realizes he's the animal. He's the drunk, out of control, manipulated fool who can't even protect his family.
Zeus didnt allow Kratos to be better, hence Kratos had only one option left. Thor is a good example of what would have become of Kratos, had he stayed on Zeus' leash. Kratos chose his own path, where Thor let himself be puppeteered by Odin. And heavily disrespected and mocked even.
After sending In all his henchmen/henchwomens and who knows time wise how long it took him, if he took all the gods down in 1 day then his endurance is phenomenal and Zeus still got his ass handed to him
honestly the gameplay in the end is just very astounding to have Atreus AND Freya team up with you, which means literal two archer supports than one it honestly just feels so good to watch
I think they missed the mark when playing as Atreus … he’s an archer but your main attack is the use your bow as a club? They should have just given him a short sword or some other melee weapon
Is ironic how every god says how much of a killer Kratos is, yet EVERY SINGLE AESIR GOD DIED BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, Baldur because he couldn't let the hate go, Heimdall because he just refused to accept mercy, thor because he refused to obey Odin, and Odin himself because he would never stop and said it himself.... they all died not by prophecy but by their own choices.
According to the prophecy made by the Norns is that when Kratos shows his true "Ghost of Sparta" mode Atreus will side with Odin and then Kratos will die by the hands of Atreus or Odin?? Fans still telling that this Kratos is not in his rage mode etc.
Which is why the things fated to happen would happen, according to the Norns. Everyone has free will, it's just that who they are makes what they'll do so painfully obvious that making 'prophecy' is nothing more than common sense. Kratos telling Atreus to open his heart, denying his own teachings, his own nature, and then following through on that change with Thor is why the 'prophecy' didn't come true.
@@jamesfurber1099 The Norns and also the Sisters of Fate saw the fate of one person as nothing more but telling a story. The Norns narrate and foretells the fate of an individual. However, the Sisters of Fate foretells and decides the fate of an individual to their own liking so that it would follow their own grand design and not the other way around.
self fulfilling prophecy. in trying to prevent their deaths, they only ensured them. had Baldur walked away, he would have lived. had Heimdall accepted mercy, he would be alive. the irony here is the Aesir were more worried about Ragnorak when instead they should have been more worried about Kratos
Nice to see that Kratos has patience with Thor because he knows he is what he was: a half god despised by his father that became a monster. As it was with Baldur, Kratos is trying to prevent Thor from beeing his past-self.
I took the mural not as the new all-father but as the new champion of the jotnar and all the 9 realms because he was painted gold just like the murals had loki in gold when they referred to him as their champion.
God of Peace sounds a bit disingenuous considering what he did in this game alone. If anything, he can become a god of war like Tyr was. One who doesn’t seek wars but ends them. That kind of temperament is more in line with who Kratos is.
I just love how Atreus and Kratos don't even have to talk, they just assume their positions to take Odin on. It's like the scene at the end of LW4. "How did he do that with my gun? How did he just take it apart like that?" "Let's go ask him."
What are you talking about, its a game. Do you really expect a realistic fight where Kratos is giving him orders and both constantly telling what they are going to do?????
Funnily enough, the prophecy that we assumed was the death of Kratos exactly happened. Odin was just the one to die. Loki took his soul and bound it to the soul marble.
Maybe that would be the cost of knowing everything if Loki had decided to work with Odin. Remember Kratos’ words, “This mask, the easy answers that it promises.. I know this.. shortcuts always have a price”
@@arnesh- Yes, they managed to change fate. Atreus had Angrboda keep the soul marbles, which gave her a major playing point. This caused a ripple effect, resulting in Odin taking Kratos' place.
I like to interpret the prophecy as the Giants getting the big details right, but not the little ones. For example: • A God of War was supposed to end ragnarok, not Tyr • “A father” was supposed to die in Atreus’s arms, but it was the All-Father not his father.
I think it’s because the “god of war” here is Odin. Like in the depictions of TYR Kratos took his place in those moments even though Odin was transformed as TYR. It’s like how Kratos back in greece became the god of war that the fates predicted would defeat Zeus. It makes sense to Kratos is more about physical war while Odin is about diplomatic, and manipulative war.
In the last game, the trio follows where fate lets them. In this game, they are the ones changing their fates because they got better since last time. A really amazing storytelling concept because they have to include fate in the story but that means for the audience that we were expecting fate to happen again which means we have been spoiled on the story and expect Kratos to die in this game. But this game is about changing their fates so the player's expectations are subverted.
I was worried that they were building up the final battle in Asgard too much, and that it would be impossible to meet expectations. But that finale was absolutely INSANE. Everything from carving a path to the Asgardian wall to the final show down with Thor and Odin was a master class is directing, acting and writing. The score was also phenomenal.
I like your more defensive play style. It’s not like a lot of other high-level players, where they use aggressive play and overwhelming combos. Your style is simple, effective, patient, and ultimately triumphant. Awesome stuff!
@Sigismund Augustus I mean to be fair I respect how ONGBAL and SmvR are really good but it’s definitely more skillfull to fight a boss without deleting their health bar like it’s easy mode in 2 seconds
Something I didn't notice until just now: When Kratos hits Thor with the axe, it doesn't flash blue. It flashes *green*, the traditional color of poison. As in the Eitr poison it got in the previous game. Really incredible attention to detail here.
Thor finally realizing what he did and wanting to be better, and then he was killed, that was so heart touching. Also, you could've made a bigger impact of you used the spear all along..
Odin: Three against one, eh? Mimir: Don't forget me, All-Fucker! Odin: What did you call me? While the rest do the physical beating, my man Mimir gave him the big Oof right there *And plz allow me to add how much I appreciate all those sick perfect guard counter you pulled off made this clip way more amazing than it should. I watch enough youtuber that play all combat bullshit button smashing style just to release their content fast, hurt so much to watch
When you think about it, Thor is basically what would've happened of Kratos if he didn't stand up for himself like he did back in Greek saga. Zeus was as abusive as Odin, except that Zeus was more open about it. While Odin was your average narcissist who firstly portrays himself as "the good guy", then "lovebombs" his victims by gifting them nice things (like he did to Atreus with bedroom, clothes and magical flying sword), covers up his manipulation with smiles, nice words and "it's all for our greater good" excuse, throwing his victims under the bus for his own benefit (Mimir, Freya, Tyr), having "flying monkeys" (Heimdall, Gna, Hrist and Mist, his pet/slave ravens and temporarily Thrud) to do his dirty work, having meltdowns when something isn't going his own way and shifting the blame onto anyone who confronts him for his BS.
@@czahnnunh2263 Nah even before the whole pandora's box thing Zeus was still a jerk having illicit relations with many men and women and punishing people (Hephaestus for eg.) as he willed. He even sent Athena and Ares to kidnap Deimos when he was a kid and have Thanatos torture him just so that he can rule Olympus forever.
True, but I do wish we had thor there to help beat Odin up, fuck that would of been poetic justice think thor would get his own back for all the beatings odin gave him
@@varlak9061 yes, that snake was the snake atreus put a giants soul into Then thor transported it to midgar in the past, where it became the jormungandr we all know and love
@SikeFury Yes The present jormungadr is coiled around midgard, and the battle is taking place in a different realm, jormungandr doesnt have the ability to move between realms in his present, adult form, due to being coiled around the realm of midgard. This is indeed a different jormungandr Adding onto that, atreus, who the prophecy calls loki, put the giants soul into jormungandr with the help of angrboda In norse mythology, loki and angrboda where the parents of jormungandr Even furthermore, somehow, jormungandr knows about ironwood, even though he doesnt posses the hability to travel through realms Its not directly told to us, but everything points to that being the case Nevermind, just checked again and mimir literally tells you this if you go back to midgard after finishing the game
@@iamafuckingfailure Small thing but Thor didn't transport it, their battle was just so cataclysmic that it splintered the world tree, creating a rift that pulled Jormungandr back in time.
Tbh, these bosses needed to be more relentless in GMGOW difficulty. FOr some reason normal mobs were more prone to pressuring the player than the main bosses. Wish they copied Elden Ring bosses for the hardest difficulty
Mobs have always been harder than the bosses in gmgow(even in the first game). Tbh Elden ring difficulty is based on your build. With things like mimic tear, magic, summons, etc you can make most boss fights pretty easy for yourself. Even gmgow difficulty is is based on your level, armor, runic attacks, summons, etc. I’ve seen many videos of people playing on gmgow against bosses with green health bars vs whenever I fought them they were dark orange😅
@@arnesh- I wasnt talking about difficulty in the form of stats. Thats just sponginess. Was talking about mechanical side, the variation in attack patterns like how elden ring bosses can sometimes delay attacks just to throw you off. Mixing up attack paterns, abit of randomness and occasional relentless pursuit. Stuff like that. In god war Bjorn? the bear Atreus can sometimes be relentless. Which is something Odin should have done atleast in his second phase just to show is desperation and determination to destroy you. Would also add to the feeling of spectacle that that fight is missing imo. Just my two cents anyway. (gow trying to look and play like darksouls made people start judging it on said standard. Yet clearly they want us to remember that its just god of war not a souls game)
@@alispeed5095 don't understand why you see gow trying to copy dark soul gameplay mechanic. I don't even see any resemblance in it. I mean ds gameplay you could clearly see from it clunkiness of movement some slow and fast combo and like you say a delay in motion that what ds basically is. Gow is still hack and slash and beat em up kind of gameplay of course a bit of mechanic to spice thing up but that it. I don't really understand why people say gow trying to copy dark soul style it's really don't look the same at all.
@@RoronoaUsopp So you went and got a huge category and used that to describe god of war ragnorak? Tell me. between Dark souls and Devil may cry Which game shares game play similar to god of war? That should make my analogy easy to understand.
I sympathize with Odin. He gave his eye for knowledge yet he couldn’t get the answer as to where he would go when he dies. On top of the many awesome themes of this game, a God having an existential crisis is EPIC for sure
Imagine if Thor didn't die right there. Like, be on the verge of death with Thrud thinking he died or not die until the final team up against Odin where he dies as a final act of defiance. Just a thought
I was waiting for him to smack Odin with Mjolnir and rebel against his dad, but my heart sank when I heard the thud from him dropping it because I knew what was coming… 😕
6:13 that hit reminds me a lot of the first smack Kratos ever got from Baldur. To think of it, this all started in front of Kratos’ home, and it ends in front of Odins.
Thor was such a broken yet relatable to some he was loved by others but was blind because he wanted love from someone who just used him, not only was he manipulated he lost his family and we he finally stood up for himself the one who manipulated him threw him away
"are you talking? Who told you to do that? You don't talk. You don't think. I think, you kill. It's a simple F'ing concept" 10/10 dialogue, such amazing villain.
8:51 Odin is such a monster through and through. You can see in his reaction to Thor's action and how quickly he just kills him off, knowing he could be a threat against him. He's such a manipulative cold basterd, he cares for no one and will do everything only for his goals. One of the better villians in all of gaming
You know, when you really think about how powerful Kratos had to be in order to kill the entire main pantheon of Greek gods... It's almost unbelievable, like actually think about... Kratos killed some of the most powerful beings in the known Universe, most of them, being with absolute ease. Thankfully, he has become a calm and reasonable person in the newer games.
Oh, certainly. Kratos would've washed the entire Norse pantheon had they messed with him BEFORE Faye made him calmer, and more reasonable. Baldur got lucky. Had he messed with Kratos sooner... oh, boy...
And from a certain conversation Kratos and Mimir had, it might be canonical that Kratos has fought against the many characters in the various crossover games he was in. Dude has been around the bend. I'd like to think Kratos could easily cut loose and fold a lot of his foes but really holds back, he seems like he'd rather die than become the ruthless beast he once was. Unless you threaten his son or new family, best bet your ass all bets are off.
After watching this fight I realize that Kratos does not have any of his Greek godly or magical powers other than his innate spartan rage and his own strength he’s fighting at a big disadvantage here and he’s winning, Thor still had his magical powers of being a god of thunder Odin still has his magical powers and they’re losing this. This tells me that the Greek gods of Greece more specifically the pantheon of Olympus were extremely powerful in their own right and at the time Kratos killed all of them no, except maybe not Aphrodite. But Kratos, he’s here in the lands of the Norse killing the gods there with little to no powers of his own and he’s winning. If this is him fighting against the Norse gods while extremely diminished with none of his Olympian gear Or abilities… I wonder how much of a pushover the -Nose- Norse Gods would be if he was fighting them at his peak of power?
Mimir himself asked if it is true that Greek Gods are so powerful that they (don´t remember what). So lorewise, greek gods are much stronger than Norse ones
Oh, but a lot of people are always just pointing at the fact that Cory said Kratos is stronger in these games, ignoring the fact that his base self could and does seem to be stronger, but that doesn't in any way prevent him to be weaker than his past self overall when taking into account all of the Greek powers/artifacts he lost. He obviously retained and honed some of his godly abilities that stayed, but a big thing of the past games was the magic that a ton of the gods and titans gave him and the relics he collected. It's even said in one dialogue in this game some magic is somehow linked to the place it originates from, so either by the destruction of Greece or simply by getting out of there, he forsake a great deal of abilities. When it comes to equipment, though, he could've brought more with him, but he was trying to get away from the past and only kept what was literally chasing him (the blades) lol. The golden fleece, for exemple, would basically function as an indestructible shield that instead of simply giving you the opportunity to parry stuff, would magically redirect the attack's power into the attacker -- it'd be a funny surprise for Thor or Odin to put their all in a blow and just get it reflected to their face lol. Another cool one would be the wings of Icarus, which would give him much more mobility (not that he's mostly restricted by plot conveniences and could just pretty much jump or tear into anywhere he wanted, but it is what it is haha).
@@emmanuel1337 as he’s older physically he’s stronger but he lost some versatility being that magical gear. And his divinity died with Olympus and here he is fighting and killing the gods of the Norse in their realm of power. He is a de-powered god of war and he is killing the Norse gods in their own lands. Historically there was indeed a god called Cratos except he was spelled with a C and was a god of strength. Because his divinity and sphere of influence died in Greece he is a god with no followers no worshipers and no power base to grow his power, all he has is what he is and that by itself is still pretty powerful. I’m not quite certain of it but my theory is that the Gods of the God of War series grows in strength and power the more their worshiped and prayed to.
@@ryankaiser2702 I have heard that hypothesis of the gods in GoW being powered by the mortal's worship before and this is something that does happen in other stories (Clash/Wrath of the Titans, for example), but I don't see any evidence of it in the GoW universe -- in fact, we see counter-evidence. It's never mentioned that so many humans being caught in the crossfire of Kratos' vengeance weakened the gods nor do we can reliably infer such an effect, and that absolutely should've been the case if it was true (unless the power just stays with the gods, but I still think it's very far-fetched). Moreover, it'd be too important and impactful of an aspect of the universe to not mention at all or at the very least strongly hint in some way -- it's not something they'd really leave vague while outright explaining so much other stuff clearly. A lot of people also talk about the idea that they necessarily grow stronger with age pretty much indefinitely, but that's something that seems to just be traced back to the gods as seen in Marvel comics, which is a very particular adaptation that doesn't really carry out to everywhere and fans are probably just conflating stuff in their minds.
If kratos had his youth, powers, and gear from the previous games... make no mistake, he would ABSOLUTELY WRECK ASGARD, zeus would even destroy them himself without much, and kratos IS stronger than him, so the power difference would be absolutely huge. (Not to mention, norse gods DO NOT regenerate)
i like how the whole fight thor is claiming he doesn't want too hear what kratos has to say but instantly agrees with them when he actually hear kratos out
When you have a thunder-infused hammer which could knock down a skyscraper of a being with a single hit in one hand and you're drunk off of rage, diplomacy isn't your first choice. But when he was forced to consider what Kratos had to say after fully expecting him to kill him while he was down, but didn't, he could see more clearly.
Yooo did y'all notice this is the same mask from the movie the mask!? If y'all remember that mask from that movie was a wooden mask with ties to the Norse god "Loki " they even make that reference in the movie and if you look at this completed mask it Is the exact same thing! WOW what an Easter egg
Odin was an old man who feared the unknown and did and say anything and everything that involved getting answers and his fear consumed him with all of his wrongs catching up to him but unlike Zeus who fear grew due to negative influence Odin choose his path and refused to take responsibility for any acts he did say he had no choice.
Dude has the combat sense of kratos. Not heimdal. Because kratos actual struck and defeated heimdal. Which was said to be impossible as he could see into the future.
When Thor refered to the old Kratos he's talking about the Kratos that was fighting his way out of Hades' pit and killed his way all the way up to Mount Olympus. He's talking about the Kratos that killed his own brother, his own grandfather and his own father. He's talking about the Kratos that rescued a girl just to have her hold up a heavy wheel that she got crushed by. He's talking about savage Kratos. Thor, we all miss that Kratos.
Poor Thor. He finally makes a life-changing decision to become a better person. If only he made that decision before that fight with Kratos, so he would have enough vitality in him to survive the sudden betrayal from his father.
I like how Santa Monica during the Thor fight called out Will Smith. When Mimir brought up Thrude, Thor said keep her name out of his Damn mouth. Nice jab.
This is so cool! I really like the Odin Boss fight with Kratos Atreus and Freya teaming up with each other to put a stop to Odin's madness too. That's incredible! Kratos Atreus and Freya have come so far together and their relationship has grown so strong that they've reached the point where they will do anything to look out for each other and protect each other from harm too!💙❤💖
It JUST occurred to me that in the painting in Angrboda’s treehouse showing Kratos’s death, there was a man with a hammer, presumably being the one who helped kill him. That person is no longer Thor, it’s Sindri! (Then again, I wonder if the prophecy will still come true in a later game. Perhaps that image of Kratos dying is out of chronological order, and the person with the hammer there is someone we’ve never met)…
Odin: 3 against one, eh? Mimir: Don’t forget me All-Fucker! Odin: What did you call me?! Mimir: That one’s for Brok! That will never not make me smile while crying at its pure beauty
Am I the only one noticing something here, between Odins obsession with a green crack showing what happens to a god after death, and Athena in God of War 3 being the only resurrected god of the pantheon, in a green aurora, and how her coming back to life changed Athenas attitude and her kindness in to pure selfishness?....am I the ONLY one noticing something going on behind the scenes of the franchise here involving a gods cycle life and death and an obsession with it when they see it and know it?....something evil in there is doing something, Athenas character change after her death and odins obsession with it is kind of proof of that don't you think?
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Thor knew Kratos as an animal. The god butcher. The foreign savage that murdered his pantheon but in that moment where Kratos tells him they have to be better for their children's sake, Thor realizes he's the animal. He's the drunk, out of control, manipulated fool who can't even protect his family.
Shut up
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True...so true...at least he died saying the right thing to who made him the monster....before..........☹️☹️☹️
Zeus didnt allow Kratos to be better, hence Kratos had only one option left.
Thor is a good example of what would have become of Kratos, had he stayed on Zeus' leash.
Kratos chose his own path, where Thor let himself be puppeteered by Odin. And heavily disrespected and mocked even.
Odin: "looks like I gotta do everything"
Kratos: "that's what Zeus said"
Odin: "what?"
Kratos: "nothing"
lol will egipthen guy say the same ?😂
@@qqqqqqqqqqq9494 Ra?
After sending In all his henchmen/henchwomens and who knows time wise how long it took him, if he took all the gods down in 1 day then his endurance is phenomenal and Zeus still got his ass handed to him
God of the Sun and King of the Egyptian pantheon
Ggfg
Odin: you turned them all against me
Obi wan walks in: YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF
I didn't see that coming😂
😂😂
honestly the gameplay in the end is just very astounding to have Atreus AND Freya team up with you, which means literal two archer supports than one it honestly just feels so good to watch
I think they missed the mark when playing as Atreus … he’s an archer but your main attack is the use your bow as a club? They should have just given him a short sword or some other melee weapon
@@johnh1353 I think the bow atacks sucks. No real bow do that and he wastes so much energy in doing that.
Freya in the background🚶♀🚶♀🚶♀🚶♀🚶♀
Atreus in the background 🤸♂🤸♂🧎♂🏃♂🧍♂
In the last segment when Freya tosses Atreus so he can dodge Odin and hit him from above...magnificent
@@SleepySkull1 yeah the freya movement was weird. Looks unfinished. What happened to those wings she just showed us
Is ironic how every god says how much of a killer Kratos is, yet EVERY SINGLE AESIR GOD DIED BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, Baldur because he couldn't let the hate go, Heimdall because he just refused to accept mercy, thor because he refused to obey Odin, and Odin himself because he would never stop and said it himself.... they all died not by prophecy but by their own choices.
THAT is the tragedy of believing a false prophecy.
According to the prophecy made by the Norns is that when Kratos shows his true "Ghost of Sparta" mode Atreus will side with Odin and then Kratos will die by the hands of Atreus or Odin?? Fans still telling that this Kratos is not in his rage mode etc.
Which is why the things fated to happen would happen, according to the Norns.
Everyone has free will, it's just that who they are makes what they'll do so painfully obvious that making 'prophecy' is nothing more than common sense.
Kratos telling Atreus to open his heart, denying his own teachings, his own nature, and then following through on that change with Thor is why the 'prophecy' didn't come true.
@@jamesfurber1099
The Norns and also the Sisters of Fate saw the fate of one person as nothing more but telling a story.
The Norns narrate and foretells the fate of an individual.
However, the Sisters of Fate foretells and decides the fate of an individual to their own liking so that it would follow their own grand design and not the other way around.
self fulfilling prophecy. in trying to prevent their deaths, they only ensured them. had Baldur walked away, he would have lived. had Heimdall accepted mercy, he would be alive. the irony here is the Aesir were more worried about Ragnorak when instead they should have been more worried about Kratos
Nice to see that Kratos has patience with Thor because he knows he is what he was: a half god despised by his father that became a monster. As it was with Baldur, Kratos is trying to prevent Thor from beeing his past-self.
The fact that kratos killed so many gods with just brute force with no crazy flashy moves
He only need Spartan Rage to do its job
Basics win matches that’s what my coach told me
Isnt blade of chaos moveset is crazy and flashy?
@@kazuha1572 yes, especially L1+🔼 in gow1 or the cyclone of chaos in every god of war game
@@dondeka2086 or rampage of the furry
A nice route for Kratos at the end too, becoming the new All-Father. From God of War to God of Peace.
I took the mural not as the new all-father but as the new champion of the jotnar and all the 9 realms because he was painted gold just like the murals had loki in gold when they referred to him as their champion.
@@ericinfante1885 kratos is all father
@@ericinfante1885 so the new all father the leader of the realms lol
God of Peace sounds a bit disingenuous considering what he did in this game alone. If anything, he can become a god of war like Tyr was. One who doesn’t seek wars but ends them. That kind of temperament is more in line with who Kratos is.
@@acgearsandarms1343 Except that he's been working on controlling that temperament. To not be who he used to be. Hence, God of Peace.
Hands down, my favorite iteration of Thor and Odin in any form of media.
I like Marvel's version of Loki and Santa Monica's Thor. Atreus isn't really the mischievous scamp Loki is known to be.
@@DA_BOID to be fair he is still a teenager, and he was very rebellious towards Kratos in general before the Helheim agreement between them
@@DA_BOID it’s almost like he’s still a kid
Shittiest Odin tbh but Good Thor
@@Dctctx Kid Loki is even more of a mischievous scamp in Marvel comics.
I just love how Atreus and Kratos don't even have to talk, they just assume their positions to take Odin on. It's like the scene at the end of LW4. "How did he do that with my gun? How did he just take it apart like that?" "Let's go ask him."
What are you talking about, its a game. Do you really expect a realistic fight where Kratos is giving him orders and both constantly telling what they are going to do?????
@@egirlcafemanager7119 What do you mean, he's literally just being realistic, he knows it's a game
@@egirlcafemanager7119 I don't think you understand storytelling
What's LW4?🤔
What's LW4?🤔
Fighting Odin is like fighting someone who made a really good hybrid build in Elden Ring
Sorcerer build
Which is amazing. I really liked the Odin fight. He was a tough god for sure and had a lot of character development.
@@Yokai_Yuri I just wish he would’ve had like the armor form the mcu with the spear or whatever that would’ve been coool as hell
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Funnily enough, the prophecy that we assumed was the death of Kratos exactly happened.
Odin was just the one to die.
Loki took his soul and bound it to the soul marble.
Maybe that would be the cost of knowing everything if Loki had decided to work with Odin. Remember Kratos’ words, “This mask, the easy answers that it promises.. I know this.. shortcuts always have a price”
@@arnesh- Yes, they managed to change fate. Atreus had Angrboda keep the soul marbles, which gave her a major playing point. This caused a ripple effect, resulting in Odin taking Kratos' place.
I like to interpret the prophecy as the Giants getting the big details right, but not the little ones. For example:
• A God of War was supposed to end ragnarok, not Tyr
• “A father” was supposed to die in Atreus’s arms, but it was the All-Father not his father.
I think it’s because the “god of war” here is Odin. Like in the depictions of TYR Kratos took his place in those moments even though Odin was transformed as TYR.
It’s like how Kratos back in greece became the god of war that the fates predicted would defeat Zeus.
It makes sense to Kratos is more about physical war while Odin is about diplomatic, and manipulative war.
In the last game, the trio follows where fate lets them. In this game, they are the ones changing their fates because they got better since last time. A really amazing storytelling concept because they have to include fate in the story but that means for the audience that we were expecting fate to happen again which means we have been spoiled on the story and expect Kratos to die in this game. But this game is about changing their fates so the player's expectations are subverted.
Honestly impressive gameplay. Found myself rewinding several times to watch you make some clutch plays. Respect the trust you have in your shield.
Agree. His shield defense would make Spartans proud.
Bravo to the no damage taken.
I was worried that they were building up the final battle in Asgard too much, and that it would be impossible to meet expectations. But that finale was absolutely INSANE. Everything from carving a path to the Asgardian wall to the final show down with Thor and Odin was a master class is directing, acting and writing. The score was also phenomenal.
I thought it lacked oomph personally. Needed some big "swathes of armies clashing" if you get me
the tutorial fight against thor is better than the final one tbh thats my big let down of this game, everything else is beutiful
it was mediocre at best
nah
I like your more defensive play style. It’s not like a lot of other high-level players, where they use aggressive play and overwhelming combos. Your style is simple, effective, patient, and ultimately triumphant. Awesome stuff!
I thought it was kind've boring honestly. He just used the same move set over and over and over again with only one weapon.
@@GodOfDestructionVegeta27 it ain't flashy, but it works
I tried playing like this and their attacks followed me
He didn’t even use runic attacks often, which are easy dps to fit his play style and range, that’s what had me miffed
Feels like he comes from a soul's game.
ONGBAL and SmvR beat bosses with pressure and OP attacks. And then there is you, using patience and simple attacks. Good video
I mean SmvR is amazing
Boring af
@Sigismund Augustus Not at all
@Sigismund Augustus I mean to be fair I respect how ONGBAL and SmvR are really good but it’s definitely more skillfull to fight a boss without deleting their health bar like it’s easy mode in 2 seconds
@@faku6900 Not at all. It's actually quite interesting
Something I didn't notice until just now: When Kratos hits Thor with the axe, it doesn't flash blue. It flashes *green*, the traditional color of poison. As in the Eitr poison it got in the previous game. Really incredible attention to detail here.
Thor finally realizing what he did and wanting to be better, and then he was killed, that was so heart touching.
Also, you could've made a bigger impact of you used the spear all along..
Just as heart-touching as Gungnir was to Thor
its sad to see how much Odin had broken down Thor, by the final fight with Thor he is no more then a broken man who wants Kratos to kill him
I think it´s complicated, but I counted 9 steps before Odin kills Thor, like the Myth
"Keep her name out of your damn mouth."--Thor/Will Smith
4:08 Awww Thor wants to give Kratos a hug. How nice of him.
As one hardcore gamer to another, you're fucking AWESOME.
Odin: Three against one, eh?
Mimir: Don't forget me, All-Fucker!
Odin: What did you call me?
While the rest do the physical beating, my man Mimir gave him the big Oof right there
*And plz allow me to add how much I appreciate all those sick perfect guard counter you pulled off made this clip way more amazing than it should. I watch enough youtuber that play all combat bullshit button smashing style just to release their content fast, hurt so much to watch
Kratos, Freya, Loki: We should spare Odin
Sindri: You must be out your GOD DAMN MIND
Love how you took no damage at all
I noticed that as well.Other channels that record boss battles for this game are just complete dog shit.
When you think about it, Thor is basically what would've happened of Kratos if he didn't stand up for himself like he did back in Greek saga.
Zeus was as abusive as Odin, except that Zeus was more open about it. While Odin was your average narcissist who firstly portrays himself as "the good guy", then "lovebombs" his victims by gifting them nice things (like he did to Atreus with bedroom, clothes and magical flying sword), covers up his manipulation with smiles, nice words and "it's all for our greater good" excuse, throwing his victims under the bus for his own benefit (Mimir, Freya, Tyr), having "flying monkeys" (Heimdall, Gna, Hrist and Mist, his pet/slave ravens and temporarily Thrud) to do his dirty work, having meltdowns when something isn't going his own way and shifting the blame onto anyone who confronts him for his BS.
but wasn't zeus like that only after he and the other Greek gods were consumed by the fear of Pandora's box?
Love your analysis of Odin. Especially shifting the blame part
@@czahnnunh2263 Zeus was always a dick
@@czahnnunh2263 Nah even before the whole pandora's box thing Zeus was still a jerk having illicit relations with many men and women and punishing people (Hephaestus for eg.) as he willed. He even sent Athena and Ares to kidnap Deimos when he was a kid and have Thanatos torture him just so that he can rule Olympus forever.
Yep. Exactly. It's so terrible.
Odin: You turned him against me. You turned them all against me.
Obi-Wan: You have done that yourself.
The choice for how to portray Odin was nothing less than genius. Controversial but genius
It was dogshit
True, but I do wish we had thor there to help beat Odin up, fuck that would of been poetic justice think thor would get his own back for all the beatings odin gave him
I love how Atreus used his 🏹 as a melee weapon! Grapple Odin by the neck w/ the bowstring & smashed him into the ground!
6:14 you can hear the “Old Kratos” grunt when he throws Thor
Good ear!
Man kratos is such a boss he clearly saw jormungandr get bodied by Thor but still charged at him with no fear respect ✊🏼
i think the big snakie was sent in the past when he fought thor, but yea ✊
@@varlak9061 yes, that snake was the snake atreus put a giants soul into
Then thor transported it to midgar in the past, where it became the jormungandr we all know and love
@SikeFury
Yes
The present jormungadr is coiled around midgard, and the battle is taking place in a different realm, jormungandr doesnt have the ability to move between realms in his present, adult form, due to being coiled around the realm of midgard.
This is indeed a different jormungandr
Adding onto that, atreus, who the prophecy calls loki, put the giants soul into jormungandr with the help of angrboda
In norse mythology, loki and angrboda where the parents of jormungandr
Even furthermore, somehow, jormungandr knows about ironwood, even though he doesnt posses the hability to travel through realms
Its not directly told to us, but everything points to that being the case
Nevermind, just checked again and mimir literally tells you this if you go back to midgard after finishing the game
@@iamafuckingfailure Small thing but Thor didn't transport it, their battle was just so cataclysmic that it splintered the world tree, creating a rift that pulled Jormungandr back in time.
2:49 I thought he flipped off thor
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BEST fight ever. Amesh, you own this game.
Tbh, these bosses needed to be more relentless in GMGOW difficulty. FOr some reason normal mobs were more prone to pressuring the player than the main bosses.
Wish they copied Elden Ring bosses for the hardest difficulty
Mobs have always been harder than the bosses in gmgow(even in the first game). Tbh Elden ring difficulty is based on your build. With things like mimic tear, magic, summons, etc you can make most boss fights pretty easy for yourself. Even gmgow difficulty is is based on your level, armor, runic attacks, summons, etc. I’ve seen many videos of people playing on gmgow against bosses with green health bars vs whenever I fought them they were dark orange😅
@@arnesh- I wasnt talking about difficulty in the form of stats. Thats just sponginess.
Was talking about mechanical side, the variation in attack patterns like how elden ring bosses can sometimes delay attacks just to throw you off. Mixing up attack paterns, abit of randomness and occasional relentless pursuit. Stuff like that.
In god war Bjorn? the bear Atreus can sometimes be relentless. Which is something Odin should have done atleast in his second phase just to show is desperation and determination to destroy you. Would also add to the feeling of spectacle that that fight is missing imo.
Just my two cents anyway. (gow trying to look and play like darksouls made people start judging it on said standard. Yet clearly they want us to remember that its just god of war not a souls game)
@@alispeed5095 don't understand why you see gow trying to copy dark soul gameplay mechanic. I don't even see any resemblance in it. I mean ds gameplay you could clearly see from it clunkiness of movement some slow and fast combo and like you say a delay in motion that what ds basically is. Gow is still hack and slash and beat em up kind of gameplay of course a bit of mechanic to spice thing up but that it. I don't really understand why people say gow trying to copy dark soul style it's really don't look the same at all.
@@RoronoaUsopp So you went and got a huge category and used that to describe god of war ragnorak?
Tell me. between Dark souls and Devil may cry
Which game shares game play similar to god of war? That should make my analogy easy to understand.
@@alispeed5095 dmc is more suitable comparison with gow rather than ds.
Love how Odin spams 3 to 4 moves, and kratos has a whole arsenal of moves
Bro only swinging that axe
(At 19:16) "Don't forget me, All-Fucker?" LMFAO here.
I sympathize with Odin. He gave his eye for knowledge yet he couldn’t get the answer as to where he would go when he dies. On top of the many awesome themes of this game, a God having an existential crisis is EPIC for sure
Imagine if Thor didn't die right there. Like, be on the verge of death with Thrud thinking he died or not die until the final team up against Odin where he dies as a final act of defiance. Just a thought
I was waiting for him to smack Odin with Mjolnir and rebel against his dad, but my heart sank when I heard the thud from him dropping it because I knew what was coming… 😕
Thor + Kratos would have been an OP combo.
That combo at the end bro 🔥🔥🔥
19:15 Best lines in the game
Brok would be proud 🥲
*Atreus breaks the mask*
The Mask: "Smokin'!"
i guess the prophecy was right, thor did end up getting killed by a snake
Great work doing this, its like you're hemidall the first time artreus tries to fight him real slick!
Finally , a gameplay that know how to properly use the shield
6:13 that hit reminds me a lot of the first smack Kratos ever got from Baldur.
To think of it, this all started in front of Kratos’ home, and it ends in front of Odins.
Baldur: Ironic isn't it?
Thor was such a broken yet relatable to some he was loved by others but was blind because he wanted love from someone who just used him, not only was he manipulated he lost his family and we he finally stood up for himself the one who manipulated him threw him away
"are you talking? Who told you to do that? You don't talk. You don't think. I think, you kill. It's a simple F'ing concept"
10/10 dialogue, such amazing villain.
Kratos was really going "Atreus, Freya, you alright? We're jumping him"
I love how clean that 1-2 kick was from Atreus & Freya @ 23:38
Kratos,Freya and Atreus : what we do with Odin's soul ?
Sindri : Smash it
Thor referencing Will Smith at the Oscars will never get old😂
Playing this game was amazing, both fights against Thor were awesome and everything looks beautiful
8:51 Odin is such a monster through and through. You can see in his reaction to Thor's action and how quickly he just kills him off, knowing he could be a threat against him.
He's such a manipulative cold basterd, he cares for no one and will do everything only for his goals. One of the better villians in all of gaming
didnt read the full title .... saw the difficulty at the end my jaw dropped
I don’t care how many times I hear it , the moment mimir calls oden all fucker and then his reaction gets me every time 😂😂
Odins “What is this? Are you broken?” was delivered perfectly
“What is this, are you broken?”
Odin got surprised because this was the first time Thor didn’t listen to his command.
LMAO Odin talking to Thor like I talk to my PC when its stops responding.
I love how when Thor’s theme started playing you knew shit was going down
17:38 that old man cry never gets old 🥹😭 “NUUUOOOOOO” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:16 This is just the best thing of the game
The fact that kratos survived getting hit by the hammer on the right side of his face
Bro you really are a good gamer . Hats off !!
Thanks bro👊🏽
@@arnesh- 👊
You know, when you really think about how powerful Kratos had to be in order to kill the entire main pantheon of Greek gods... It's almost unbelievable, like actually think about... Kratos killed some of the most powerful beings in the known Universe, most of them, being with absolute ease. Thankfully, he has become a calm and reasonable person in the newer games.
Oh, certainly. Kratos would've washed the entire Norse pantheon had they messed with him BEFORE Faye made him calmer, and more reasonable.
Baldur got lucky. Had he messed with Kratos sooner... oh, boy...
Ya he is more boring now his voice puts you to sleep his movements are far too slow for my taste I still prefer the original kratos.
@@darthbane2669 The point.
@@darthbane2669 FOUND THE NOSTALGIATARD WHO CANT HANDLE CHANGE! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
And from a certain conversation Kratos and Mimir had, it might be canonical that Kratos has fought against the many characters in the various crossover games he was in.
Dude has been around the bend.
I'd like to think Kratos could easily cut loose and fold a lot of his foes but really holds back, he seems like he'd rather die than become the ruthless beast he once was.
Unless you threaten his son or new family, best bet your ass all bets are off.
After watching this fight I realize that Kratos does not have any of his Greek godly or magical powers other than his innate spartan rage and his own strength he’s fighting at a big disadvantage here and he’s winning, Thor still had his magical powers of being a god of thunder Odin still has his magical powers and they’re losing this.
This tells me that the Greek gods of Greece more specifically the pantheon of Olympus were extremely powerful in their own right and at the time Kratos killed all of them no, except maybe not Aphrodite. But Kratos, he’s here in the lands of the Norse killing the gods there with little to no powers of his own and he’s winning.
If this is him fighting against the Norse gods while extremely diminished with none of his Olympian gear Or abilities… I wonder how much of a pushover the -Nose- Norse Gods would be if he was fighting them at his peak of power?
Mimir himself asked if it is true that Greek Gods are so powerful that they (don´t remember what). So lorewise, greek gods are much stronger than Norse ones
Oh, but a lot of people are always just pointing at the fact that Cory said Kratos is stronger in these games, ignoring the fact that his base self could and does seem to be stronger, but that doesn't in any way prevent him to be weaker than his past self overall when taking into account all of the Greek powers/artifacts he lost.
He obviously retained and honed some of his godly abilities that stayed, but a big thing of the past games was the magic that a ton of the gods and titans gave him and the relics he collected. It's even said in one dialogue in this game some magic is somehow linked to the place it originates from, so either by the destruction of Greece or simply by getting out of there, he forsake a great deal of abilities.
When it comes to equipment, though, he could've brought more with him, but he was trying to get away from the past and only kept what was literally chasing him (the blades) lol. The golden fleece, for exemple, would basically function as an indestructible shield that instead of simply giving you the opportunity to parry stuff, would magically redirect the attack's power into the attacker -- it'd be a funny surprise for Thor or Odin to put their all in a blow and just get it reflected to their face lol. Another cool one would be the wings of Icarus, which would give him much more mobility (not that he's mostly restricted by plot conveniences and could just pretty much jump or tear into anywhere he wanted, but it is what it is haha).
@@emmanuel1337 as he’s older physically he’s stronger but he lost some versatility being that magical gear. And his divinity died with Olympus and here he is fighting and killing the gods of the Norse in their realm of power. He is a de-powered god of war and he is killing the Norse gods in their own lands.
Historically there was indeed a god called Cratos except he was spelled with a C and was a god of strength.
Because his divinity and sphere of influence died in Greece he is a god with no followers no worshipers and no power base to grow his power, all he has is what he is and that by itself is still pretty powerful.
I’m not quite certain of it but my theory is that the Gods of the God of War series grows in strength and power the more their worshiped and prayed to.
@@ryankaiser2702 I have heard that hypothesis of the gods in GoW being powered by the mortal's worship before and this is something that does happen in other stories (Clash/Wrath of the Titans, for example), but I don't see any evidence of it in the GoW universe -- in fact, we see counter-evidence. It's never mentioned that so many humans being caught in the crossfire of Kratos' vengeance weakened the gods nor do we can reliably infer such an effect, and that absolutely should've been the case if it was true (unless the power just stays with the gods, but I still think it's very far-fetched). Moreover, it'd be too important and impactful of an aspect of the universe to not mention at all or at the very least strongly hint in some way -- it's not something they'd really leave vague while outright explaining so much other stuff clearly.
A lot of people also talk about the idea that they necessarily grow stronger with age pretty much indefinitely, but that's something that seems to just be traced back to the gods as seen in Marvel comics, which is a very particular adaptation that doesn't really carry out to everywhere and fans are probably just conflating stuff in their minds.
If kratos had his youth, powers, and gear from the previous games... make no mistake, he would ABSOLUTELY WRECK ASGARD, zeus would even destroy them himself without much, and kratos IS stronger than him, so the power difference would be absolutely huge. (Not to mention, norse gods DO NOT regenerate)
Freya speaking to Odin is like Baldur speaking to her in the first game.
I was wondering when someone would notice this.
“But now I realize; I don’t need you to understand anything.”
Also how Freya, Atreus and Kratos uses the same combo Kratos and Atreus against Baldur.
i like how the whole fight thor is claiming he doesn't want too hear what kratos has to say but instantly agrees with them when he actually hear kratos out
When you have a thunder-infused hammer which could knock down a skyscraper of a being with a single hit in one hand and you're drunk off of rage, diplomacy isn't your first choice. But when he was forced to consider what Kratos had to say after fully expecting him to kill him while he was down, but didn't, he could see more clearly.
My mans pulled out the receipts in the end to show he was playing on GMGOW
4:08 Thor running towards Kratos like he's giving out free Happy Meals 😂😂
9:39-9:44 kinda wished Kratos would've said "You have done that yourself!"
Yooo did y'all notice this is the same mask from the movie the mask!? If y'all remember that mask from that movie was a wooden mask with ties to the Norse god "Loki " they even make that reference in the movie and if you look at this completed mask it Is the exact same thing! WOW what an Easter egg
Joke?
Krato’s really said “Nah, I’ve got to turn into Heimdall real quick”
The fact that he used no runics made this even better
He did use the light runic on the spear in Odin phase 2 but other than that I didn't notice
Odin was an old man who feared the unknown and did and say anything and everything that involved getting answers and his fear consumed him with all of his wrongs catching up to him but unlike Zeus who fear grew due to negative influence Odin choose his path and refused to take responsibility for any acts he did say he had no choice.
I love how Atreus reacts to Odin killing Thor and hitting thrud with the hammer💯he was so pissed and confused of why Odin would do such a thing
Damn! You pulled off some Krazzy combos and no damage 👌👍
Your a natural at this game can’t believe u took no damage when fighting Thor
Thor's crippling despair was so powerful in this game. I legitimately wanted to just jump in the game and yell "You can choose to be better!"
Dude has the combat sense of kratos. Not heimdal. Because kratos actual struck and defeated heimdal. Which was said to be impossible as he could see into the future.
Anyone else find it funny how Sindri just walks in, kills Odin, and everyone just looks at him like "alright then guess that's that"
When Thor refered to the old Kratos he's talking about the Kratos that was fighting his way out of Hades' pit and killed his way all the way up to Mount Olympus. He's talking about the Kratos that killed his own brother, his own grandfather and his own father. He's talking about the Kratos that rescued a girl just to have her hold up a heavy wheel that she got crushed by. He's talking about savage Kratos. Thor, we all miss that Kratos.
I don't.
U don't know what character development and maturity means?
Apparently Not.
@@chaddfrancis2179 i didn't mean u chill
@@kk_cinevlogs I know you were referring to someone else
Poor Thor. He finally makes a life-changing decision to become a better person. If only he made that decision before that fight with Kratos, so he would have enough vitality in him to survive the sudden betrayal from his father.
I like how Santa Monica during the Thor fight called out Will Smith. When Mimir brought up Thrude, Thor said keep her name out of his Damn mouth. Nice jab.
Difficulty give me god of war YESSIR IM DOING THE SAME IM AT THAT PART! YOU GOT GAMER SKILLZ MAN!
Mimir calling Odin All-Fucker was just perfect 😂
Bro that “Halda” hits different 13:56
Kratos: Use your arrows
Freya: Got it (misses one)
Kratos: ARE YOU FOR REAL
Honestly when Thor said “Keep her name out your DAMN mouth” I was waiting for will smith to come and pat him on the back
Mimir: “don’t forget me, All-Fucker” 💀
This is so cool! I really like the Odin Boss fight with Kratos Atreus and Freya teaming up with each other to put a stop to Odin's madness too. That's incredible! Kratos Atreus and Freya have come so far together and their relationship has grown so strong that they've reached the point where they will do anything to look out for each other and protect each other from harm too!💙❤💖
"What was it all for" That Tear really messed Odin up trying to open it.
daaaaamn! No damage! f**king awesome man. I didn't even trust my shield that much 😆
23:31 Me and the boys when an elderly man takes the last copy of God of War Ragnarok
It JUST occurred to me that in the painting in Angrboda’s treehouse showing Kratos’s death, there was a man with a hammer, presumably being the one who helped kill him. That person is no longer Thor, it’s Sindri!
(Then again, I wonder if the prophecy will still come true in a later game. Perhaps that image of Kratos dying is out of chronological order, and the person with the hammer there is someone we’ve never met)…
Odin: 3 against one, eh?
Mimir: Don’t forget me
All-Fucker!
Odin: What did you call me?!
Mimir: That one’s for Brok!
That will never not make me smile while crying at its pure beauty
Thor's VA really knocked it out the park with his performance
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Am I the only one noticing something here, between Odins obsession with a green crack showing what happens to a god after death, and Athena in God of War 3 being the only resurrected god of the pantheon, in a green aurora, and how her coming back to life changed Athenas attitude and her kindness in to pure selfishness?....am I the ONLY one noticing something going on behind the scenes of the franchise here involving a gods cycle life and death and an obsession with it when they see it and know it?....something evil in there is doing something, Athenas character change after her death and odins obsession with it is kind of proof of that don't you think?
You can hear the old school Kratos come out the very last time he throws Thor
Odin: THREE against one huh?
Mimir: don’t forget me All-fucker
Odin: wha did you call me? 19:11
Mimir: that one was for brok!