Two more former Coffee City officers indicted

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  • @mikestarkey7989
    @mikestarkey7989 11 місяців тому +2756

    If a police officer gets sacked for criminal activities or incompetence they SHOULD NOT be allowed to be a police officer ANYWHERE EVER again.

    • @dejablue5746
      @dejablue5746 11 місяців тому +150

      Yeah because they should be in PRISON

    • @klausthedog9670
      @klausthedog9670 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, because you are poor and lazy

    • @alelectric2767
      @alelectric2767 11 місяців тому +50

      Can you get hired as a cop if you have a criminal record?

    • @johncasey9042
      @johncasey9042 11 місяців тому +43

      That's why they should be sent to court when the stuff up instead of just resigning and getting a new job

    • @Str8Maddeness
      @Str8Maddeness 11 місяців тому +49

      How does another department not do their due diligence? And if they do, how could they think this would be a good hire? Custodians have more integrity than the police do.

  • @Unedited43795
    @Unedited43795 11 місяців тому +1946

    John Joslin worked for at least 22 agencies in 30 years? That's insanity.

    • @That_one_introvert.
      @That_one_introvert. 11 місяців тому +77

      You’d think the 🤡 wouldn’t want to be a policeman.

    • @keren1561
      @keren1561 11 місяців тому +135

      ​@@That_one_introvert. It's all about having power over people. He was probably that school bully on the playground...

    • @nbaoldgirl
      @nbaoldgirl 11 місяців тому +14

      Very much

    • @GrandMasterWizard
      @GrandMasterWizard 11 місяців тому +20

      Insanity describes it right.

    • @JimsEquipmentShed
      @JimsEquipmentShed 11 місяців тому +38

      And every one of those hiring agencies failed to vet an obvious problem……
      Not much of an SOP there……

  • @butch1dc
    @butch1dc 10 місяців тому +120

    If you’ve had 22 different jobs as an officer in 30 years you’re definitely guilty of something. How he keeps getting hired is the real question

    • @fanwoodwatcher3873
      @fanwoodwatcher3873 3 місяці тому +6

      Obviously, corruption

    • @balancedaccounting2332
      @balancedaccounting2332 2 місяці тому

      fanwoodwatcher3873 Ummm that’s not how corruption works slick. 🤣🤣 kids these days.

    • @rachelblacklock7961
      @rachelblacklock7961 2 місяці тому +3

      Corruption. They never check previous employment .

    • @lionfish3135
      @lionfish3135 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@balancedaccounting2332but it is though?????? How is it not?????

    • @FuneralParty-rsf
      @FuneralParty-rsf 27 днів тому

      @@balancedaccounting2332 Cop Hired After Questionable Psych Exam - Convicted of Manslaughter, the departhment skipped everything the psychologist said and hired him anyway, is there even a way to know if cops even have all the requirements in the first place or any amount of requirements are just skipped without a thought?

  • @micbroc6435
    @micbroc6435 11 місяців тому +1504

    Just think for a moment about how hard it is for a cop to get fired. Now realize that these cops have had that happen multiple times.

    • @ramonbriones4487
      @ramonbriones4487 11 місяців тому +41

      It's not uncommon. Many cops thar get fired just go to another precinct that is eager to hire them

    • @theoryofpersonality1420
      @theoryofpersonality1420 11 місяців тому +18

      That's misfeasance in office by those who hire them. You can file one at the clerk of courts office at any court house. It's also not affected by qualified immunity either.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 11 місяців тому +22

      Now think for a moment about how everything you just said about cops also applies to doctors and nurses. When they catch them stealing opioids to feed their own addiction, the hospital wants to keep it quiet so they fire them without a report.

    • @thehellyousay
      @thehellyousay 11 місяців тому +31

      @@MakerInMotion whatever you're drinking, put a cork in it and go sleep it off.

    • @MakerInMotion
      @MakerInMotion 11 місяців тому

      @@thehellyousay I presume you're a nurse. Go back to getting high on stolen medication.

  • @christopherschustor7992
    @christopherschustor7992 11 місяців тому +480

    As a mental health professional I can lose my license permanently depending on the type of infraction. Meaning I could never practice therapy again. Why isn’t there a system like this in place for police??

    • @guyforlogos
      @guyforlogos 11 місяців тому +16

      You also probably are required to have malpractice insurance, so should all LEO’s… therefore unemployable due to high rates when they get sued a few times.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      Because police Also gets away with murders in court by magistrates even if it was an unarmed innocent person. Even police brutality gets away

    • @lameetcalice3845
      @lameetcalice3845 11 місяців тому +7

      Malum In Se/Malum Prohibitum
      Nothing moral requires authority. Authority is the claim to the exclusive exemption to morality. It is a monopoly on violence. Violence is a violation because it is the initiation of aggression, not self-defense. Offense/defense are ontologically distinct. All crime has a legal equivalent (ie, taxation is extortion).
      Every government is founded on Ad Baculum.
      Warren v. District of Columbia
      Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales
      DeShaney v. Winnebago County
      Lozito v. New York City
      You are legally compelled via the logical fallacies Ad Populum, Ad Baculum and Ad Verecundiam to pay for protection that they are not legally obligated to provide. That's a mafia.
      The highest Abrahamic value is Ignorance of Good and Evil. It's right there in Genesis. You worship Yaldabaoth, God of the Scapegoaters: God blames Man; Man blames Woman; Woman blames Serpent; Serpent blames God, more accurately - the Serpent defines God.
      God Condones Child Rape
      No.s 31: 17-18
      God Condones Rape
      Deut. 22: 28-29
      God Condones Abortion
      No.s 5: 11-31
      Unquestioning Obedience to Government
      Rom.s 13: 1-7
      Ritualistic classifying surgery as a means of psychic castration, like circumcision and sub-incision, are hallmarks of patriarchal culture, a demonstration to the young that the venerable old ones still wield the all-powerful knife - and the beginning of transsexualism. Those who do not perform the cult's rite can never enjoy full social status.
      Symbols of the castrated member, the tie and bow-tie, are mandatory accoutrements of the political wardrobe and phallic monuments are erected to commemorate the minds conquered long ago. Brute force is no longer necessary.
      Legalism is a Language of Equivocations, a process of assimilation to violence and illogic.
      Etymology: government
      Gubernare: to control
      Mens/Mentis: mind
      culture
      Colere: to inhabit, to till
      Cult: collective mind
      -ure: process of
      civilize, etc.
      Civitas: city
      -ize: to do/to make like
      police, policy, politics, polite
      Polis: city
      authority
      Auctor: master, father, creator
      -ity: quality of
      religion
      Religare: to bind fast, to place an obligation on
      -ion: noun-forming suffix
      uniform
      Uni-: one
      Form: shape
      They lump themselves into a group. They want all the collective praise and none of the collective blame (No True Scotsman). If they were truly concerned for their reputation they wouldn’t wear a uniform. Badges are just snowflakes.
      "Everything is metamorphosed into its opposite to perpetuate itself in its expurgated form. All the powers, all the institutions speak of themselves through denial, in order to attempt, by simulating death, to escape their real death throes. [...] For example: it would be interesting to see whether the repressive apparatus would not react more violently to a simulated holdup than to a real holdup. Because the latter does nothing but disturb the order of things, the right to property, whereas the former attacks the reality principle itself." - Jean Baudrillard (Simulacra & Simulation - 1981)
      "I am a cosmopolitan." - Diogenes
      "If I could not be Alexander, I should wish to be Diogenes." - Alexander the Great
      "A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lysander Spooner (No Treason: Constitution of No Authority - 1867)
      "Leadership in government is political power, and political power is an official form of antagonizing the people. Politics are rules imposed upon the people. They have every man in a straight jacket and without a passport he cannot move a toe. In a free world, they violate the natural rights of every citizen. They have become the weapons of political despots and if you don't think as they think you're deprived of your passport." - Michael Chaplin as Rupert Macabee (A King in New York - 1957)
      "Imagine, if you will, a world filled only with criminals of whom there are two classes: those too honest to rationalize their crimes and the powerful who scapegoat them." - Rod Serling

    • @Roboto129
      @Roboto129 11 місяців тому +12

      Because they run a legal mafia. Good fellas do not tell on each other.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      @@Roboto129 who

  • @sirkingDING
    @sirkingDING 11 місяців тому +83

    22 Police departments in a span of 30 years?!?! His whole resume should've been a RED flag😳😳😳🥺

  • @ramonbriones4487
    @ramonbriones4487 11 місяців тому +917

    They need to make a nationwide database so these disgraceful people don't get rehired. If social workers and attorneys have these databases, why not cops?!

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому +24

      Not SENIORITA BONITA. How bout police officers who had killed unarmed people and got away In court. And especially police brutality tours our community

    • @cyrilpiwetz8680
      @cyrilpiwetz8680 11 місяців тому

      There is now a Brady List of crooked cops to try and ban these criminals that have been caught perjuring in court and making false police reports. @@howlinwulf

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      @@howlinwulf leave Linda SENIORITA alone

    • @BajatheChickenMan
      @BajatheChickenMan 11 місяців тому +40

      Barbers have a more rigorous requirement for a license and employment than cops.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      @@BajatheChickenMan Linda SENIORITA munieka

  • @INdifrnve
    @INdifrnve 11 місяців тому +1516

    So there’s a nationwide data base for criminals but not for criminal cops. Awesome 👏

    • @Daniel-bg4zh
      @Daniel-bg4zh 11 місяців тому +32

      For real.

    • @kdiggity6
      @kdiggity6 11 місяців тому +23

      That's crazy!

    • @savcts5776
      @savcts5776 11 місяців тому +6

      ​@@kdiggity6DA GUY COVERING DIS STORY SOUNDS LIKE MICHAEL MOORE

    • @melaniegerard2195
      @melaniegerard2195 11 місяців тому +29

      Time for a CRIMINAL COP website, fellas!? That would be hilarious

    • @melaniegerard2195
      @melaniegerard2195 11 місяців тому +2

      It is M.Moore. He gets around

  • @The_Conspiracy_Analyst
    @The_Conspiracy_Analyst 9 місяців тому +32

    We need a federal registry of these offenders. Get fired for misconduct? Goes straight into NCIC

  • @supersquirrel7546
    @supersquirrel7546 11 місяців тому +488

    This crap won't change unless there's state and federal legislation that manages this specific problem. Without a system of check and balances, there'll never be such a thing called accountability. These bad cops with a bad history are no different than criminals with criminal records.

    • @martingindulis5310
      @martingindulis5310 11 місяців тому

      What do you expect this type of corruption started at the very top thinK F.B.I.BIDEN ,OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS

    • @fuckyougeorgebush
      @fuckyougeorgebush 11 місяців тому

      As long as your average person believes in authority, nothing will change. The belief in authority is what causes someone to say "this class of people that wear badges have a right to use violence to control everyone else."

    • @ac1888
      @ac1888 11 місяців тому +5

      Thumbs up unto infinity 👍👍👍

    • @MrAdamNTProtester
      @MrAdamNTProtester 11 місяців тому +6

      The problem is they NEVER get the Death penalty when they murder people until that changes they will obv KNOW for FACT that they are in fact above the law... you can't have people KNOWING they are above the Law & then acting like they are CONSTRAINED by the law as well bcuz that's a contradiction- it's like abortion >>> the worst form of child abuse is MURDER yet you expect women to NOT abuse their children when you have already told them that the worst form of child abuse IS THEIR RIGHT... so these contradictions need to cease... but that won't happen in my lifetime & at this juncture I can pretty much guarantee that the USA will no longer exist before our 400th birthday- already there is ZERO acknowledgement by ANYONE of the GOD Endowed RIGHTS of the PERSON & the CUSA RESTRAINT on gov't POWERS... so soon no one will even use those words like today everyone talking about citizens & CUSA rights when they are GOD Endowed RIGHTS of the PERSON- citizen or not & the RESTRAINT on gov't powers... so it's just a matter of time until the corporofascism that has replaced REAL Capitalism, the socialism that has replaced REAL Democracy, the burgeoning global surveillance police state & empire that has replaced the Union of sometime goodly state Republics etc etc runs it's course & consigns the USA to the junkbin of history like every other "republic" that ever arose only to be perverted into police state & empire... the soup is getting thin viz the American Experiment in Liberty & Freedom is what I am saying...
      Semper Paratus
      Semper Vigilente
      Semper Fedelius
      JESUS IS the TRUTH
      satan IS the father of ALL LIES & LIARS
      Truth & Fact

    • @rjakob8073
      @rjakob8073 11 місяців тому +6

      Voters, need to contact both state/federal legislators to demand bills be put in place to protect every American from lawless corrupt police officers and STOP them from working in this field again. TY.

  • @bobombnik1817
    @bobombnik1817 11 місяців тому +196

    It's not almost a disgrace.. it is a disgrace. These police departments share databases, do background checks, etc. You do this for officers too, or should be. There's really 0 excuse, other than lazy hiring.

    • @matthewronsson
      @matthewronsson 11 місяців тому +20

      Not lazy hiring so much, but the intentional hiring criminals with a badge.

    • @zibbielanham
      @zibbielanham 11 місяців тому

      ​@@matthewronssonI agree-- I went rural a few years ago-- lived in what became Bobo's district overnight. Every local election, Glops would introduce 'new' candidates for county commissions or sherrif, school boards, city council or police chief, etc-- as if we couldn't connect the dots. (plenty didn't). They had recruited 'troubled' officers, one of whom was viral due to beating up an old woman elsewhere and laughing about a gruesome detail at the station-- running for Police Chief... There's a Reason in this underbelly tactic-- they're arming for a 'righteous' war, and need sherrifs and enforcers who are willing to Defy the law, when and if they can take over. School Boards that defy teaching reality, Sherrifs that enforce laws 'selectively', and commissioners who direct favors to the old guard... Imagine the collective power in any state, of dozens of remote counties having been engineered this way, now infecting statehouses... aaand now I sound like a conspiracy theorist 😂... but it has happened-- and we're dealing with the chaos now. I only said the word conspiracy, because I saw a whitewashed lesson plan for young Republicans 15 years ago-- It wasn't entitled 'How to take over your Government', and didn't imply nefarious or dangerous actions... but did engage them with arguments for anything from abortion rights to religious 'freedoms' and gun control. Literally teaching them the Words and Phrases to use, when confronted with evidence. Kinda like the Police Union, huh?

    • @daveb2280
      @daveb2280 11 місяців тому +6

      On the flip side, many officers are leaving agencies that are corrupt, don't fit in or are pushed out. I've seen both sides. But in Joslin's case working for that many different agencies is unheard of.

    • @paws315
      @paws315 11 місяців тому +6

      Low hiring standards, public denied access to disciplinary records, and excessive pay are thanks to the unions and the politicians who take their money. It's disgusting and Americans deserve much better for what they're forced to pay

    • @primolopez2856
      @primolopez2856 11 місяців тому

      As long as the state of Texas grants these officers the right to be a Texas peace officer. He or she can legally be employed by a city in Texas

  • @unqualifiedastronaut6328
    @unqualifiedastronaut6328 10 місяців тому +148

    22 departments in 30 years? Seriously? How is this even possible? And it isn't 'almost a disgrace' - it is utterly disgraceful.

    • @vivianpatton5692
      @vivianpatton5692 9 місяців тому +7

      It's So DISGUSTING ! Here we R still paying for their Job . U would think we would b able to put a Stop to this kind of corruption . But here We R wanting some Justice .

    • @MrTrevortxeartxe
      @MrTrevortxeartxe 7 місяців тому +9

      These cops are domestic terrorists.

    • @MrTrevortxeartxe
      @MrTrevortxeartxe 7 місяців тому

      They need to carry a gun,

    • @MrTrevortxeartxe
      @MrTrevortxeartxe 7 місяців тому

      They need to carry a gun,

    • @MrTrevortxeartxe
      @MrTrevortxeartxe 7 місяців тому

      gun, push people around, and They need to carry a gun, and repeatedly violate their rights. That's terrorism.

  • @miskittt
    @miskittt 11 місяців тому +261

    I’m sure they are 100 times worse than what we are being told.

    • @tima.478
      @tima.478 11 місяців тому +6

      Easily! If cops were investigated and actually held accountable for wrong doing, there would be no cops!

    • @jenscheibner792
      @jenscheibner792 11 місяців тому +4

      Protect their own at any cost including the public's safety....

    • @Franciscasieri
      @Franciscasieri 11 місяців тому +2

      Exactly...they have been exposed here but behind these acts were thousands of acts of malfeasance they will never pay for...

    • @turtletruth
      @turtletruth 8 місяців тому

      Abused American taxpayers, families, spouses, teachers and school children despise the police more than War, Hitler, Satan, Sin, and Child Molesters..!
      POLICE contact benefits the state, never the taxpayer!
      - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)

    • @stuckinlodi100
      @stuckinlodi100 8 місяців тому

      Are most cops the produce of the devil's work or just happily Satanic? As a Cdn there is a fear that Lucifer may look northward for colder victims..

  • @elithegreat205
    @elithegreat205 11 місяців тому +374

    These police departments need to be fined for hiring these crooked cops

    • @GoonyMclinux
      @GoonyMclinux 11 місяців тому +11

      The city needs its charter revoked.

    • @markaddison4642
      @markaddison4642 11 місяців тому +7

      Poor leadership is a culture in real-time.

    • @nobodyaskedfortwitterhandles
      @nobodyaskedfortwitterhandles 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@GoonyMclinuxThe mayor of the city dismantled the entire city police force and requested assistance from a nearby county. The entire town and even the entire state of Texas is pissed off about this.

    • @GoonyMclinux
      @GoonyMclinux 11 місяців тому +3

      @@nobodyaskedfortwitterhandles I know, I got a few tickets there. 🤣

    • @chuckfinley3542
      @chuckfinley3542 11 місяців тому +5

      Too many departments are hard up to fill vacant slots, so they take anyone with a certification, pulse, and a working trigger finger.

  • @macharrington7733
    @macharrington7733 10 місяців тому +13

    Coffee City eliminated its Police Department.... so was it needed in the first place, or just a mechanism to generate revenue?

  • @crinklecut3790
    @crinklecut3790 11 місяців тому +80

    This is the power of real, honest journalism. Well done!

  • @julianamartinez9701
    @julianamartinez9701 11 місяців тому +206

    This has been going on for a long time ! It’s a disgrace

    • @georgedunkelberg5004
      @georgedunkelberg5004 7 місяців тому +4

      JUST 'NOTHER DAY IN 'MERICA!

    • @turtletruth
      @turtletruth 7 місяців тому +3

      The absence of A "NATIONAL REGISTRY" of fired Heroes is prearranged disdain against taxpayers!
      - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)

  • @bohunkus4029
    @bohunkus4029 9 місяців тому +13

    I absolutely LOVE when justice comes to people sworn to uphold the law.

    • @t5ruxlee210
      @t5ruxlee210 22 дні тому

      Crooks hire crooks and both sides know what is "expected in the short term" and both know there is no long term.

  • @seer1
    @seer1 11 місяців тому +183

    ”The police have lost sight of the fact that they are public servants.”
    ― Steven Magee

    • @sbj97
      @sbj97 11 місяців тому +3

      The power got to their heads

    • @JDnFL
      @JDnFL 11 місяців тому

      Police Unions are the biggest problem

    • @justjulie2859
      @justjulie2859 11 місяців тому

      Lost sight? That was never a thought in their head. Not a possibility, not a mindset, not an afterthought, not a consideration. They get big heads in their training and supervisors encourage abuse, ignorance of the law and trampling on people’s rights. Their motto….keep cops ignorant of the law at any and all costs.

    • @edfthanos6757
      @edfthanos6757 11 місяців тому +2

      😂 they never had SIGHT. Especially back in the day. It's just been passed down.

    • @PrivateALLEyesonU
      @PrivateALLEyesonU 11 місяців тому

      I agree with uv@seer1

  • @HannibalTheDragon
    @HannibalTheDragon 11 місяців тому +273

    Law enforcement is no different than the Catholic Church.... continually lets those unfit for the job to bounce from place to place

    • @BajatheChickenMan
      @BajatheChickenMan 11 місяців тому +20

      Culture of Abuse.

    • @oneblessedladyallsbrook1057
      @oneblessedladyallsbrook1057 11 місяців тому +21

      Awesome comparison.

    • @matthewronsson
      @matthewronsson 11 місяців тому +11

      Yeah, just 'let them go' and be an incompetnant criminal elsewhere...next!

    • @MrAdamNTProtester
      @MrAdamNTProtester 11 місяців тому

      I am a REAL catholic [aka UNIVERSAL church] & I agree with you 100%
      TREASON has become the established order in America Today- TRUTH & FACT
      JESUS IS the TRUTH
      satan IS the father of ALL LIES & LIARS

    • @WesternCowboy65
      @WesternCowboy65 11 місяців тому

      Public school teachers s3xually assault more children than catholic priests.. how you feel about that?

  • @switch733
    @switch733 10 місяців тому +15

    As a former cop, I spent 18 years at 2 departments. Changing departments was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made. I can't imagine 22 in 30 years...wow.

    • @antonibertolacci7030
      @antonibertolacci7030 9 місяців тому

      PIG
      !

    • @justyp
      @justyp 4 місяці тому +3

      We don’t want to hear from former cops hanging around UA-cam comments trying to redeem themselves for spending a lifetime promoting cult behavior. Take a hike. Or should I say “have a good day…”

    • @switch733
      @switch733 3 місяці тому

      @@justyp I don't care what you want to hear, thanks for the pension, chump! Retired and don't have to deal with you dummies anymore.

  • @Short-N-sweetshorts2024
    @Short-N-sweetshorts2024 11 місяців тому +81

    Almost a disgrace?! 😳🙄🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
    That’s the attitude that’s ruining police reputation! It should be an absolute disgrace and the practice should end immediately!!!

    • @acgillespie
      @acgillespie 11 місяців тому

      Our Society n Culture is the disgrace along with DC selected officials

  • @peggyross1807
    @peggyross1807 11 місяців тому +294

    Wow I never thought that there would be a formal investigation and subsequent arrests. Great job in staying on top of this.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому +1

      Poor SENIORITA BONITA

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      @population-_-420 also crook cops and police officers who killed unarmed people then police gets dismissed in court also police brutality tours our community

    • @kaos421
      @kaos421 11 місяців тому +4

      Only the white

    • @LD__
      @LD__ 11 місяців тому +1

      💯

    • @acgillespie
      @acgillespie 11 місяців тому +1

      *Smoke n Mirrors*

  • @liquidflorian
    @liquidflorian 9 місяців тому +12

    This is the standard across the nation. It isn't unique.

  • @steveladner4346
    @steveladner4346 11 місяців тому +238

    We need more real journalist like this.

    • @theoryofpersonality1420
      @theoryofpersonality1420 11 місяців тому +7

      You're right, great reporting.

    • @theoryofpersonality1420
      @theoryofpersonality1420 11 місяців тому

      @population-_-420 if you look at the funding law enforcement gets, almost all get more funding after the defund the police movement. Not less. They have also done a lot of in house cleaning of bad apples, even hiring more officers. Not less.

    • @Onsanio
      @Onsanio 11 місяців тому +2

      Ever heard of Dave biscobing? A great Arizona reporter

    • @chickeninabread7168
      @chickeninabread7168 11 місяців тому +6

      Long Island audit

    • @ccrider3435
      @ccrider3435 11 місяців тому +1

      @population-_-420 They seem to be defunding themselves!

  • @Chris_L034
    @Chris_L034 11 місяців тому +70

    if an officer gets fired it says enough about their character to lose their certification for life.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому +3

      No not Sgt Garcia she's SENIORITA BONITA

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      @Nasaangel665 the haters of this pretty young police woman wants to get with her that's why y'all hatting on this pretty lady cop

    • @BrooklynBalla
      @BrooklynBalla 10 місяців тому

      Officers rarely get fired officially.They are almost always allowed to resign before facing disciplinary action and get to keep a relatively clean record that way.

  • @wesKEVQJ
    @wesKEVQJ 10 місяців тому +18

    I am kinda amazed that no one has made a website that posts every bad cop that got fired from anywhere in the US.

    • @delresearch5416
      @delresearch5416 7 місяців тому

      Our own he people Brady list.

    • @carcher3279
      @carcher3279 3 місяці тому +1

      I think because it might count as doxxing depending on local, state, and federal laws and then all of a sudden the webmaster has law enforcement suddenly come in after them. Very few people would want to take that risk in addition to all the work that would be involved.

    • @wesKEVQJ
      @wesKEVQJ 3 місяці тому

      @@carcher3279 it is public record.

  • @highrzr
    @highrzr 11 місяців тому +60

    The recycling of these kinds of officers is far to rampant in law enforcement. The bar and standards are set way to low for law enforcement to the point of being non existent. Their needs to be a mandated national database of these kinds of officers. When law enforcement officers break the law, they need to have their certification permanently revoked.

    • @karinaz8756
      @karinaz8756 11 місяців тому +6

      There is. Police captains just choose to ignore it. Or officers are allowed to quit before they are fired to AVOID being entered in the database.

    • @mikehatch2114
      @mikehatch2114 11 місяців тому

      They belong to a union. The union and its officers who are also law enforcement personnel cover for each other in the cloak of brotherhood. It's a secret society that must come to an end.@@karinaz8756

  • @akiira69
    @akiira69 11 місяців тому +55

    And to think if the former Coffee City Police Chief did not hire so many people for one small town none of this would have ever come to light.

  • @tysa1999
    @tysa1999 10 місяців тому +8

    very, very seldom do they lose certification

  • @_Delta_P_
    @_Delta_P_ 11 місяців тому +366

    As a Texan I’m far more afraid of law enforcement than I am of criminals. I’ve never had a criminal charge but I feel if I run across the wrong officer on a bad day they could just ruin my life for nothing. I would rather just deal with criminals.

    • @ETT64
      @ETT64 11 місяців тому +33

      You don't have to be a Texan to be more afraid of cops than non-badge wearing criminals.
      I live on the east coast; and I've feared my life being destroyed by cops more than any non-badge wearing criminal my entire life.

    • @JohnnyFukcup
      @JohnnyFukcup 11 місяців тому

      More afraid of law enforcement than you are of criminals.....
      That's dumb af

    • @OGC1970
      @OGC1970 11 місяців тому +30

      Texas and Arizona “law” is out of control. In Texas, a LEO can simply arrest you because they don’t like your attitude/cooperation. Look into it, fact.

    • @AisleofCapri
      @AisleofCapri 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@@OGC1970Saw it happen. You are right

    • @WolfBane1899
      @WolfBane1899 11 місяців тому

      Law enforcement are the criminals

  • @Newperson-x4q
    @Newperson-x4q 11 місяців тому +71

    Always amazes me that it takes months to learn to enforce the law. But it takes years to protect from the law. This is a prime example.

    • @turtletruth
      @turtletruth 8 місяців тому

      (Criminal Protection Program) Criminal cops are transferred and re-hired into other departments! (There is no do not hire list of fired cops!) The System seems to want violent people and gangs as police officers!
      USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)
      - Overturn Terry vs Ohio

    • @turtletruth
      @turtletruth 8 місяців тому

      Abused American taxpayers, families, spouses, teachers and school children despise the police more than War, Hitler, Satan, Sin, and Child Molesters..!
      POLICE contact benefits the state, never the taxpayer!
      - USMC (Semper Fidelis) SGT E-5 (5811)

    • @sydnidowney3598
      @sydnidowney3598 5 місяців тому +1

      and 2 years to get a license to be a BARBER.

  • @westmassdave7354
    @westmassdave7354 8 місяців тому +7

    Time to stop paying these ridiculous taxes.

  • @GamerNxUSN
    @GamerNxUSN 11 місяців тому +32

    Yet none of the coffee city council is facing consequences. They knew what was going on, probably encouraged it because of the revenue being brought in.

    • @yooperrd651
      @yooperrd651 11 місяців тому +3

      Bingo! its all about revenue. these cops write a lot of B.S. tickets

  • @skeetrix5577
    @skeetrix5577 11 місяців тому +81

    I live in St Louis. in St Louis county alone, we have 91 municipalities with some 60 independent police departments. some of them are less than 2 square miles, it's insane. and recently there's been stories about corrupt cops getting fired by one dept only to be hired by another. it's a major problem

    • @nickpavia9021
      @nickpavia9021 10 місяців тому

      Nobody wants to become a police officer in today's political climate. Many departments are desperate and will hire anyone.

    • @MichaelRankin70ad
      @MichaelRankin70ad 3 місяці тому

      This stat right here is just amazing. We are living in a police state.

  • @fw1421
    @fw1421 Місяць тому +3

    This is a serious problem all across America. There should be a database of all police suspended or fired. Once fired they should never be allowed to wear a badge and a gun.

  • @somacinteriors
    @somacinteriors 11 місяців тому +31

    Bad people are the norm in 99 percent of departments all over the world

  • @lollycastillo6157
    @lollycastillo6157 11 місяців тому +66

    What a disgrace!

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому +2

      Not sgt Garcia she's SENIORITA BONITA

    • @bswogger4656
      @bswogger4656 11 місяців тому +2

      @@JJCelestino What does her superficial beauty have to with conduct? Was the information she sent, helping victims? Content might be misleading but hiring a fired person might not be best interest of the community. If the former officer has good reason I will hope someone can cover.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому +1

      @@bswogger4656 Linda SENIORITA

    • @bswogger4656
      @bswogger4656 11 місяців тому

      @@JJCelestino John why is your user name different?

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      @@bswogger4656 what about Epstein and his agenda as a pedophile. Former presidents are covering up for his coward tail

  • @ContrastY
    @ContrastY 10 місяців тому +5

    Excellent reportage. This reporting is saving taxpayers millions and correcting a serious crime

  • @pallascat1743
    @pallascat1743 11 місяців тому +24

    22 different Police forces!? Dont they check references or do any background checks?

  • @GovtWatchdog
    @GovtWatchdog 11 місяців тому +51

    Unbelievable how incompetent our governments are.

    • @Handlethis342
      @Handlethis342 9 місяців тому

      It’s silly to anthropomorphize governments. They are made up of humans. Human are incompetent, not governments.

    • @EddieThornton
      @EddieThornton 6 місяців тому +4

      Corrupt, and incompetent.

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 3 місяці тому +3

      Not incompetent. They just don’t care.

  • @Zola_6
    @Zola_6 9 місяців тому +5

    So glad all these people have been called out And put online for everyone to see

  • @jenniferg749
    @jenniferg749 11 місяців тому +47

    Thank you for the incredible work you have done exposing the corruption the Officers and Coffee City have been involved in. How is it possible that John Joslin has worked for 22 agencies in 30 years? Are hiring departments dropping the ball on background checks??

    • @jenscheibner792
      @jenscheibner792 11 місяців тому +3

      Protecting their own, even the criminal cops...

  • @whynot8901
    @whynot8901 11 місяців тому +43

    we feel the same way about priest and corrupt politicians.

    • @Deonna-z4j
      @Deonna-z4j 26 днів тому

      This isn't about them

  • @stevenhulbert4061
    @stevenhulbert4061 10 місяців тому +3

    Ain't no expert, worked in LE, security. This is more common than this story depicts. Smaller departments will take officers with bad parts. If you're fired from one agency the agency that hires you should understand you're a liability but many don't

  • @chrisdodson9011
    @chrisdodson9011 11 місяців тому +20

    Sad thing is, it’s going on everywhere. Not just East Texas.

  • @turtlrunr
    @turtlrunr 11 місяців тому +28

    Great Investigating job!! Thank you for reoorting this and not being afraid to tell the truth. Great News!!

  • @erichemard7066
    @erichemard7066 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s called a clean record agreement. If you haven’t heard of it, look it up. It allows officers to quit or retire to avoid lawsuits. This allows them to move on to other departments with a spotless record. All driven by police unions and insurance companies.

  • @craigkubnick1148
    @craigkubnick1148 11 місяців тому +20

    Almost a disgrace??? That statement tells you all you need to know about him... Think about what he really said...

  • @chuckfinley3542
    @chuckfinley3542 11 місяців тому +32

    KHOU, please stay on this Coffee City story.

  • @edwardzettle5425
    @edwardzettle5425 2 місяці тому +1

    This is another reason that qualified umimity must be abolished. Also the force who fired officer as well as the Force that next hired that person. There actions in danger the community they swore to protect

  • @jrivers8305
    @jrivers8305 11 місяців тому +34

    This is a norm when crooked cops are hired through another agency or county. The problem here is the system and how it's run by an outdated policy of hiring experienced cops. They have got to fixed that pronto!!

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      Not sgt Garcia she's SENIORITA BONITA

  • @asherrey
    @asherrey 11 місяців тому +106

    Corruption is rampant within the policing community.

    • @michaelshrader5139
      @michaelshrader5139 11 місяців тому

      The Thin Blue Line meets just about every requirement of an organized gang. They put their allegiance to one another above and beyond any oath to protect and sever the public, and that is a big problem IMHO.

    • @gabron8845
      @gabron8845 11 місяців тому

      We can stop this madness

    • @vfincalif
      @vfincalif 11 місяців тому

      Corruption is far more rampant in the Govt that defines policy! These are 2 bad apples in a bunch, not a bunch of bad apples! The system rooted them out. It works! You clowns need to get over yourselves! The Govt is taxing you into poverty!

    • @richardclifford003
      @richardclifford003 11 місяців тому +2

      No it's not. These types of LEO are very far and few between. But, I do agree there needs to be a database so only the best of the best can be LEOs.

    • @nyfinest131
      @nyfinest131 11 місяців тому +2

      It's actually not but ok..😂 That false narrative is actually rampant though. Facts

  • @cercaz
    @cercaz 6 місяців тому +15

    This is why all citizens should treat all officers and politicians with scorn and disrespect

    • @Alcapone3176
      @Alcapone3176 5 місяців тому +1

      So the same goes for citizens who break the law? That means all of them too.

    • @cercaz
      @cercaz 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Alcapone3176 but but but what about xyz?!?!

    • @saltyginger777
      @saltyginger777 4 місяці тому

      Our law and our politicians work for us. So we need to be allowed to know how they operate and when they blatantly break the law approved of by the citizens they need to be held accountable. We do have to watch out for laws control freaks put in place too. Councils made constitutionally illegal "mandates" all over America recently and the citizens were ignored.

  • @MarisolDiaz-il3cf
    @MarisolDiaz-il3cf 11 місяців тому +20

    Thank god for your bravery and exposing these practices of hiring cops that have gotten fired 👍🏻

  • @Cynsham
    @Cynsham 11 місяців тому +17

    There needs to be a federal database of these criminal cops. If you get discharged from one force for criminal conduct you shouldn’t just be able to go to another one, you should be in PRISON.

  • @ephraimcamacho9600
    @ephraimcamacho9600 2 місяці тому +1

    They should go to jail for thier crimes like everyone else!! No double standards for the law!

  • @TravisCyprien
    @TravisCyprien 11 місяців тому +50

    lol it’s like how can you trust your own police department!

    • @jmfia2391
      @jmfia2391 11 місяців тому +1

      You can't!!!!! I trust criminals on the street before I trust these people. Professional crooks in badges

    • @ramonbriones4487
      @ramonbriones4487 11 місяців тому +5

      An attorney I work with told I can't and shouldn't lol

    • @Nun195
      @Nun195 11 місяців тому +1

      Police exist to protect capital, so if you are not a capital owner or said capital, they are not there for you.

  • @Mafiaagg742
    @Mafiaagg742 11 місяців тому +25

    Hell yeah!!! Bring em to justice 🎉

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      Not sgt Garcia she's SENIORITA BONITA

  • @falcorthewonderdog2758
    @falcorthewonderdog2758 4 дні тому +1

    If you get fired as a police officer it should include revocation of your law enforcement certificate.

  • @charleslanphier8094
    @charleslanphier8094 11 місяців тому +10

    Like that chief didn't know. " Oh, it was almost a disgrace," clutches pearls.

  • @thenadonation2664
    @thenadonation2664 11 місяців тому +19

    Wasn't the female officer one of the officers that broke that 73 year olds arm and then laughed about it?

    • @JimmmyRaynor
      @JimmmyRaynor 11 місяців тому +1

      no way! is that her???

    • @mickey6275
      @mickey6275 11 місяців тому +1

      I think that was a different person

    • @reprehensiblereptile187
      @reprehensiblereptile187 11 місяців тому +3

      Not sure, but those two pigs who roughed up that older lady and laughed about it deserve federal prison time.

    • @JerryCalvert-x9u
      @JerryCalvert-x9u 5 місяців тому

      No, that was her look alike. Many of them do seem to look exactly alike. Especially the females. They tend to try to be us guys, but never will be.
      I'd never let any female try to man handle me. That would be her final day on that job.
      Women should never try to do a job meant for a man. Not with me they won't.

  • @habitsofsuccess4322
    @habitsofsuccess4322 4 місяці тому +1

    As a Vet I am at a complete loss how our Police system does not follow the same guidelines as the Military. If you get a Dishonorable discharge YOU'RE DONE and get dropped off at the front gate to never enter again.

    • @jwells3315
      @jwells3315 4 місяці тому

      And they ACT like they ARE when they are NOT! GOOD COMMENT! I feel the same way - A Disabled Veteran!

  • @whammy3323
    @whammy3323 11 місяців тому +11

    Man this case just unveils layer after layer of information... Great work!

  • @billwilson5341
    @billwilson5341 11 місяців тому +14

    This same thing happens in the Medical Industry. "Less than" medical people flit from one medical facility to another. When (if?) backgrounds are checked, they come up clean even though there should be charges of misconduct in the personnel file.
    Some of the "less thans" have committed murder and yet are able to move on to another medical facility.

    • @PX77-i9i
      @PX77-i9i 9 місяців тому +1

      That’s how the RN known as the Angel of Death. Got away many times.

  • @JROQUEfounderofcoolhandvets
    @JROQUEfounderofcoolhandvets 8 місяців тому +1

    Everyone in uniform in law enforcement at this point in time is corrupt and guilty. Ask me why?

  • @deucedeuce1572
    @deucedeuce1572 11 місяців тому +10

    A perfect example of the police culture in this country and the way that government acts.

  • @doneown503
    @doneown503 11 місяців тому +12

    😮 , can't imagine what the real numbers would be , if everyone stepped forward & filed their complaints.

  • @grizzstud22
    @grizzstud22 3 місяці тому +1

    Its harder for truckers to get a job at a new company from a mud flap getting torn off than it is for police for very major issues.

  • @TexasRose50
    @TexasRose50 11 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for reporting and updating on corrupt cops and departments!! Citizens have a right to know. More of this needs to be shown on the news and not just UA-cam. Great job KHOU! 👍

  • @ecrist
    @ecrist 11 місяців тому +12

    They really do believe they are above the law. Disgusting.

    • @stumack9755
      @stumack9755 11 місяців тому +1

      the Trumps.

    • @ecrist
      @ecrist 11 місяців тому

      @@stumack9755 ok, idiot.

    • @michaelshrader5139
      @michaelshrader5139 11 місяців тому

      And the answer to that is to Abolish by law the concept of Qualified Immunity! Nobody but nobody should be above the law, and anybody should be able to be sued for wrongdoing!

  • @randychristian7642
    @randychristian7642 10 місяців тому +2

    is the Harris County sheriff as hiding unlawful actions?

  • @heinzdelf
    @heinzdelf 11 місяців тому +8

    Boy, this keeps getting better every day 🙌 👏... About time you highlight 👉 JUGGLING 👈.

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      Many haters on SEÑORITA BONITA officer ! She's Linda preciosa como la Rosa

  • @S2KPHD
    @S2KPHD 11 місяців тому +7

    @2:45 ... "Almost a disgrace?" Is this guy high or something? A history of termination went unchecked...great HR dept there.

  • @michaeld7617
    @michaeld7617 11 місяців тому +3

    This is what having a police union gets you.

  • @princesspamela1959
    @princesspamela1959 11 місяців тому +8

    Don’t they check references before hiring!?!?

  • @shenanigansofmannanan
    @shenanigansofmannanan 11 місяців тому +7

    This is why I say... there's no such thing as a good cop...if bad cops are still employed...

    • @ultrarnr4454
      @ultrarnr4454 3 місяці тому

      People always tell me, "not all cops are bad". I tell then yes they are, if they are not standing up and telling others about the bad cops, then they are just as guilty.

  • @fletchfuller2246
    @fletchfuller2246 11 місяців тому +1

    So, he, a veteran officer who happened to be between jobs at the time and had an interest in a certain case, is alleged to have been sent police reports from a female officer. This seems like something that could be administratively allowed by a supervisor. These cops may have been dirty, but this case is pretty weak.

  • @lprice5583
    @lprice5583 11 місяців тому +5

    Thanks for the follow up story.

  • @olyokie
    @olyokie 11 місяців тому +22

    Criminal rot runs deep in law enforcement.

  • @kathytrainor9839
    @kathytrainor9839 8 місяців тому +1

    ALMOST A DISGRACE !!!!!!! IT DEFINITELY IS A DISGRACE. WAKE UP COPPERS. THE PUBLIC HAS GOT YOUR NUMBER !!!!!!!!

  • @cxerphax1
    @cxerphax1 11 місяців тому +23

    So let me get this straight. Female deputy was fired for sending documents to a non LEO, her first and only offense? I really doubt that, she must have had a record of misconduct.

    • @phrogme2450
      @phrogme2450 11 місяців тому

      At least three offenses. Gee in Houston you get to KILL three people before you “resign” or are fired. Considered too bloodthirsty to be on the force. If not a LEO you’d be a serial killer.

    • @michaelshrader5139
      @michaelshrader5139 11 місяців тому +1

      I'd like to know why he is being charged with a crime for possessing the documents she had e-mailed to him.... and why did she even do that? I think this web is far more tangled than anybody realizes. I went to the city hall meeting last night, not much really happened though there were a lot of big cameras and mic booms on hand set up and recording. The City of Plum Grove has a lot of issues going on right now, lots of agendas at play. Who is right and who is wrong, difficult it is to tell these days. 😕

  • @ThePvtNutzack
    @ThePvtNutzack 11 місяців тому +4

    i love that you guys are still investigating this

    • @JJCelestino
      @JJCelestino 11 місяців тому

      Leave SEÑORITA BONITA alone she's innocent ! Mija preciosa como la Rosa

  • @donkelly9456
    @donkelly9456 10 місяців тому +1

    Police departments got saloon doors for corrupt cops, get fired from one dept and join the one next door to continue with their corrupt ways.

  • @bretta3
    @bretta3 11 місяців тому +6

    There is no reason for a town of 249 residence to have a police department.

    • @oneblessedladyallsbrook1057
      @oneblessedladyallsbrook1057 11 місяців тому

      Crazy criminals are everywhere. A town of 5 has a criminal or 2. Be realistic not everyone has mental/emotional balance or good intentions.

    • @allpraisestoyah5033
      @allpraisestoyah5033 11 місяців тому

      @@oneblessedladyallsbrook1057actually that’s a lie, a city named Fredrickburg just had its first murder in 4 years, small town of 1500 look you are wrong small cities don’t need pigs

  • @brianwong4458
    @brianwong4458 11 місяців тому +6

    all these so called officers all needs to do some serious jail time!!!

  • @PacoSmith
    @PacoSmith 7 місяців тому

    This is incredibly enlightening.
    Great reporting!

  • @JoseRamos-gv2om
    @JoseRamos-gv2om 11 місяців тому +16

    There are two kinds of criminals: the ones that get found and arrested, and others wearing badges.

  • @paulbarthol8372
    @paulbarthol8372 11 місяців тому +5

    Portland Oregon seems to routinely hire wandering officers as police chiefs

  • @TerryMoon-z5v
    @TerryMoon-z5v 24 дні тому +1

    I wonder why cops feel like their above the law
    OH
    Bcuz every cop , Judge , Chief , District Attorney , Mayor or anyone holding a public office is in the club and you and I aint in it

  • @TNTkeynine
    @TNTkeynine 11 місяців тому +4

    The officer that killed Tamir Rice works at another department now, uncharged. And he's not the only one who simply just got hired at another department.

  • @txhookey5608
    @txhookey5608 11 місяців тому +7

    In the business world, the magic question you always ask when you always call their previous employers "are they eligible for rehire?" That is one of the few things they can disclose about a bad former employee. It stems from multiple lawsuits where a criminal act by an employee was hidden by a previous employer and then repeated with the new employer. There should be a formal requirement for a Police Department to identify if a officer that worked for them is eligible for rehire.

    • @garyowen9044
      @garyowen9044 11 місяців тому

      @@Look_What_You_Did “They were employed here from this date to this date.” That’s all we were allowed to say.

  • @Sushi2735
    @Sushi2735 Місяць тому

    You are doing such a fine investigation! Bravo!! Makes me proud!!

  • @greg11786
    @greg11786 11 місяців тому +6

    1.3 million in court revenue in 2022...think about that, for that PODUNK A** TOWN!!!

  • @hotmechanic222
    @hotmechanic222 11 місяців тому +8

    In the UK if you are sacked as a police officer or fire fighter/emergency worker or resign before you are sacked, you get put on a "barred list" and can never work in that role or even as a civilian worker for emergency agencies anywhere in the country

  • @cw9533
    @cw9533 10 місяців тому +1

    Well, the police investigated themselves and yet again found no wrong doings.

  • @takeover8741
    @takeover8741 11 місяців тому +6

    They need to go to jail

  • @lprice5583
    @lprice5583 11 місяців тому +8

    It is super expensive to get rid of these kind of cops. They love to sue. My aunt was one of them. I think she sued two different cities for wrongful termination and gender discrimination. The sad thing is that she recieved money from both claims in settlements. She is a fat sad lady that has filed for bankruptcy at least once. I feel ashamed that she is related to me.

    • @jamesr2888
      @jamesr2888 11 місяців тому +2

      I hope you stay away from her & she's not in your life.

    • @lprice5583
      @lprice5583 11 місяців тому +1

      @jamesr2888 Absolutely, I stay away from her like the plague. If I even hear through the grapevine that she has been in my part of the state, I make sure to check my bank statements and the locks on my doors. Bad things happen wherever she goes. Luckily, I have not seen her in 6 years. If I am lucky, it will be the rest of her life. I do feel bad that there are people who have to deal with her wherever she is. I am sure she is mooching off someone or the government somewhere.

    • @lprice5583
      @lprice5583 11 місяців тому +1

      @Look_What_You_Did Yep. My family tree seems to bear two types of fruit. About half the family are hard working, pay our taxes, and have moderately successful types. The other half hates work, is generally lazy, filed for bankruptcy at least once, abuses some substance. Some branches are all one type, and others are a mix. I have even seen it skip generations. I am guessing there is some sort of mental defect that runs through the family. I am likely a mild case or a carrier due to the fact that I am in the moderately successful half.

    • @stevenrose2114
      @stevenrose2114 8 місяців тому

      @@lprice5583 whatever happen to your aunt?

    • @lprice5583
      @lprice5583 8 місяців тому

      @stevenrose2114 Update: She has filed bankruptcy against and swindled a bunch of money from my grandfather with the aid of her brother, my uncle. Somehow, the fat little troll of a woman still has no money. The only people that talk to her are her two druggie children. Last I heard, she and her daughter are attempting to swindle money from a grandparent from some other branch of their family tree. My family has warned the other family.

  • @tomdecuca3627
    @tomdecuca3627 11 місяців тому +4

    Why is there not federal intervention of this type of hiring practices?

    • @PFlaw317
      @PFlaw317 11 місяців тому

      Because a bunch of right-winguts would cry foul for so called 'states rights' and whine about federal overreach. A lot of small towns get off on being corrupt with no oversight..but they'd rather focus on the bigger metro cities where many are watching. People like that are always pro police & pro accountability until they are under the microscope

    • @daviddoucet2220
      @daviddoucet2220 10 місяців тому +1

      The feds do it too.

  • @t-bonena3609
    @t-bonena3609 11 місяців тому +6

    Please keep us updated concerning their court hearings and sentencing. I hope you can get footage of their faces on the day of sentencing. Thanks for airing this. This is the only way to make a change. Expose them for who they really are.