The Katana is CRAP... So we made it BETTER!

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  • @TYRANTH_
    @TYRANTH_ Рік тому +3131

    Katana is Done, what’s next ?

  • @envynoson
    @envynoson Рік тому +1685

    Tyranth: I have made an abomination.
    Shad: This blade speaks to me, like a long lover, we are united together forever.

  • @DinnerForkTongue
    @DinnerForkTongue Рік тому +2429

    How fitting that when you mix Japanese and European bladesmithing, you get a weapon that looks straight out of Persia. Even geographically, it's a middle ground between both civilisations. 😁

    • @jesperaung8592
      @jesperaung8592 Рік тому +175

      Well that can't be a coincidence

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Рік тому +87

      @@jesperaung8592 Definitely not.

    • @JudgeNicodemus
      @JudgeNicodemus Рік тому +96

      It's a happy little accident.

    • @bielinskibartosz7099
      @bielinskibartosz7099 Рік тому +19

      You are not very good with geografy, are you? 😂 I mean, yeah Persia is sort of between but Azia... Azia is huge. It wouldnt be anywhere near the middel 😂 not even close 😅😅

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Рік тому +114

      @@bielinskibartosz7099
      Better than you are at English 😏
      Also better than you at geograPHy too. Or did you forget that the old Silk Route ran _exactly_ through the Persian region? Do you really believe they circumnavigated India? Braved the Gobi desert to pass through Mongol/Slavic territories? Please.

  • @Armored_Muskrat
    @Armored_Muskrat Рік тому +4120

    Shad's overflowing happy excitement and Tyranth's unfeigned disgust are hilarious together.

    • @malthus986
      @malthus986 Рік тому +225

      One man's favorite sword, another man's most disgusting abomination. I love the contrast in reactions to it.

    • @ostrowulf
      @ostrowulf Рік тому +102

      It was a thing of beauty watching Shad get giddy as a school girl, while Tryanth looked like he regretted his life decisions that lead to this momment. It was like he had remorse for building the weapon that would destroy the world.

    • @quiett6191
      @quiett6191 Рік тому +60

      @@ostrowulf This was basically Tyranth's "I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" Oppenheimer moment.

    • @lorddio4280
      @lorddio4280 Рік тому +22

      The only thing asidy from the steel quality that I'd have to say is that it would have beem nice to keep the Handle's aestetic, but I guess the Pommel would end up having to be custommade and youd potentially end up having to unwrap it every time you try to take it off.

    • @SkullySVK
      @SkullySVK Рік тому +10

      lawful good vs chaotic good

  • @gonzo3915
    @gonzo3915 9 місяців тому +180

    The lack of Iron on the Japanese islands was a driving reason for only using Iron for Blades and other vital items, hence bamboo and paper armors, Shad this is quite possibly what the Katana would have been had resources been abundant.

    • @Ofelas1
      @Ofelas1 8 місяців тому +1

      or just call the blade "Landsknecht", done since 16th century

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 5 місяців тому +1

      Doesn't seem to be the case since china and Korea had plenty of iron but also felt it was wasteful and heavy to use up so much iron on the accessory pieces of the sword.

    • @docsevvy
      @docsevvy 4 місяці тому

      ​@@jason200912ur talking about china and korea when a katana is from japan😂

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 4 місяці тому

      @@docsevvy lookup china's and koreas version of the katana.

    • @docsevvy
      @docsevvy 4 місяці тому

      @@jason200912 bruh, still can't grasp the point? this comment way above us is literally talking about japan, how u jumpin countries man, jeez

  • @robbiestapleton9080
    @robbiestapleton9080 Рік тому +585

    The cackle from shad as he realizes the top levels of bait he has just unleashed on the sword community.😂

    • @trevtall1094
      @trevtall1094 Рік тому +24

      Nah he just thinks adding a screwable pommel makes the katana awesome

    • @danielwesley5051
      @danielwesley5051 Рік тому +79

      He’s solved the biggest weakness of the katana, now you can end them rightly with it!

    • @scorpionlord9175
      @scorpionlord9175 Рік тому +1

      @@trevtall1094 um............. your aware he thinks the katana is good and awesome already, yes? like in literally countless videos he says this, LITERALLY any of them. he says time and time ans time and time again they are awesome and good swords. but people like YOU dont listen to that.
      all you hear is "BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH, issues with katana, BLAH BLAH BLAH, it could be improved by, BLAH BLAH BLAH, European sword is better in.... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH." thats literally what people like you hear so you NEVER hear him praise the katana for the strengths it has, so you just assume(or lie) that he thinks its dumb and not good, when that is not the case.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 Рік тому +11

      @@danielwesley5051 Well accurately his buddy solve and even that guy knew what hell he unleashed. It's cursed simply because of that bulging pommel whereas I've seen Katanas that have pommels already made by China and Korea from stealing Katanas from pirates with the help of Japan. Although they kept the tsuba there's already a natural bigger tsuba already before but not as long as the cross guard

    • @myusername3689
      @myusername3689 Рік тому +5

      @@trevtall1094Well great balance does have an amazing effect on handling/agility.

  • @MrSottho
    @MrSottho Рік тому +391

    Tyranth: This went horribly wrong
    Shad: THIS WENT HORRIBLY RIGHT

  • @alexanderren1097
    @alexanderren1097 Рік тому +741

    I can’t believe you failed to talk about the biggest reason why this is THE PERFECT sword: you can quickly unscrew the pommel and end them rightly!

    • @GF-qb3uo
      @GF-qb3uo Рік тому +58

      It has a built in missile weapon for those pesky times you enemy is all the way over there, where you can't reach him to get all stabby.

    • @MrMetonicus
      @MrMetonicus Рік тому +23

      Skallagrim has entered the chat.

    • @wutmagna7222
      @wutmagna7222 Рік тому +31

      What's more, since it still has the bamboo pins under the wrap, you can end them rightly without fearing about the entire handle falling apart

    • @alexanderren1097
      @alexanderren1097 Рік тому

      @@wutmagna7222 Even better!

    • @m.mulder8864
      @m.mulder8864 Рік тому +3

      Are you familiar to me? Have we met on some ancient battlefield?

  • @The_fastfreddy
    @The_fastfreddy Рік тому +61

    I like how Shad just loves the sword while Tyranth hates it. I find that so funny

  • @Unimportant
    @Unimportant Рік тому +2202

    Tyranth is such a boon to this channel. His skillset really allows for a level of experimentation that you just can't find elsewhere.

    • @pimi8522
      @pimi8522 Рік тому +41

      He feels like that kind of sidekick that will leave the channel to create his own in a few years

    • @oicrusader2143
      @oicrusader2143 Рік тому +61

      @@pimi8522 He has his own channel already.

    • @G2Bryce
      @G2Bryce Рік тому +30

      I agree. I am waiting for the Shadiversity glamor calendar featuring Tyranth oiled and bare to the world, a strategically placed broadsword covering his manhood, little Shad Cherubs polishing the thick long blade.

    • @MarkWiseTechno
      @MarkWiseTechno Рік тому +9

      Oz was a great lad, but Tyranth is a massive upgrade in utility.

    • @TheRealGeliel
      @TheRealGeliel Рік тому +1

      I ready this as "Skillet" not skillset

  • @vegladex
    @vegladex Рік тому +201

    "Middle eastern vibes", Shad gave me EXACTLY the words I needed to explain the impression this sword gave me. It's interesting that when combining elements from two distant cultures, you end up with something that looks a lot like what the cultures geographically between those two produced!

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Рік тому +19

      Well you see a curved blade with a crossguard and you think about a tulwar, shamshir or kilij.

    • @zeppelincraft1443
      @zeppelincraft1443 Рік тому +6

      The middle east and Japan has a lot of aspects that are similar. For example, they have swords that have a hard to replicate alloys.
      Also from what I heard, the tune of Arab music and modern Japanese music is similar.

    • @Zinyak12345
      @Zinyak12345 Рік тому +1

      I definitely couldn't stop thinking "Anubis".

    • @SkippertheBart
      @SkippertheBart Рік тому

      Maybe cause it's in the middle of the east.

  • @bigbadseed7665
    @bigbadseed7665 Рік тому +698

    "The pommel screws off."
    Good to know the katana received the ultimate upgrade. The ability to "end him rightly" is essential. 👍

    • @JarekSSJXify
      @JarekSSJXify Рік тому +30

      Just unscrew the pommel and throw it right into someone's skull. Like a true boss.

    • @jwillwilliams885
      @jwillwilliams885 Рік тому +8

      Or you can hide some matches and fishing string in the hilt.

    • @lithuaniaball
      @lithuaniaball Рік тому +9

      ​@@jwillwilliams885the last ronin: R a m b o

    • @N.istraa
      @N.istraa Рік тому +1

      For honor reference? W

    • @undead9999
      @undead9999 10 місяців тому +1

      This needs to be pinned 😂😂

  • @zosimustarkas_vt
    @zosimustarkas_vt Рік тому +33

    This looks great! I'm going to describe this as an infantry sword in the stories I'm writing, though short enough to be used one-handed meant to be used alongside a medium round shield.

  • @ViolentMessiah666
    @ViolentMessiah666 Рік тому +250

    Tyranth: "This is an abomination"
    Shad: "The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"

    • @daleford8621
      @daleford8621 Рік тому +12

      That was exactly what I heard in my head when he said that. 😂

    • @grinningchicken
      @grinningchicken Рік тому +3

      Is it possible to learn such a power?

  • @PaulDarr
    @PaulDarr Рік тому +539

    This is what I imagined the heron marked blade looking like in a Wheel of Time. A fantasy fusion of Eastern and Western swords.

    • @somerando1073
      @somerando1073 Рік тому +31

      Yes, and very similar to the production model actually made of them.

    • @whitewolf3051
      @whitewolf3051 Рік тому +7

      Something like this can be done with an oval or rectangular tsuba that’s near the width of a cross guard, with or without a pommel.

    • @gratefulguy4130
      @gratefulguy4130 Рік тому +11

      This is what they will use at the end of the Age of Legends.

    • @cynanbloodbane9562
      @cynanbloodbane9562 Рік тому +30

      This is exactly what Robert Jordan described! That is almost exactly what Lan's blade would look like.

    • @cosmicinsane516
      @cosmicinsane516 Рік тому +7

      I thought the exact same thing.

  • @patricknez7258
    @patricknez7258 Рік тому +10

    11:38 Bro is S tier hype man fr 💯

  • @SunSun-sk4si
    @SunSun-sk4si Рік тому +274

    I love the sheer happiness that Shad has testing out Tyranth's creations - both the falchion and now the katana remakes have been my favorite videos to watch just because Shad acts like a little kid on christmas morning, it's great~

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 Рік тому +9

      Yes. I’m hoping for more such experiments even if some of them give Tyranth the shivers.

  • @mansfieldtime
    @mansfieldtime Рік тому +69

    8:00 Tyranth's face is one of a man who is feeling several emotions. Shame, joy, confusion, relief, disgust and maybe even pride all at the same time.

  • @davesmilingcoyote
    @davesmilingcoyote Рік тому +606

    I would love to see a Japanese sword maker’s reaction to this video 😂

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Рік тому +69

      That'd be so dope. And they can compare notes too. The insight of a native would for sure give a different view.

    • @kovenmaitreya7184
      @kovenmaitreya7184 Рік тому +94

      I can only imagine the absolute disappointment mixed with some resigned acceptance that it might be better haha! xD

    • @crowe6961
      @crowe6961 Рік тому +8

      Me too, it'd be priceless!

    • @Harry_Bahlzanya
      @Harry_Bahlzanya Рік тому +6

      I'd like to see that samurai that can cut a pellet in half use this sword 😹😹

    • @Kerath
      @Kerath Рік тому +24

      "Shamufuru Dispuray!"

  • @gemzilla8530
    @gemzilla8530 5 місяців тому +3

    I see two kids who got the same gift on Christmas, one is the happiest on earth and the other is going through a crisis

  • @ServantOfSatania
    @ServantOfSatania Рік тому +174

    You can hear Tyranth's soul leaving his body as he hands his cursed creation to Shad, the praise from Shad only driving his soul further away

  • @SerAvaros
    @SerAvaros Рік тому +346

    Now I want to see them re-hilt a medieval sword on a Japanese guard and handle.

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Рік тому +29

      Do that, and make it practical. Yes please.

    • @Aodhan_Raith
      @Aodhan_Raith Рік тому +27

      At that point it might as well be a mitsurugi or a jian.

    • @muffinxyz7895
      @muffinxyz7895 Рік тому +12

      @@Aodhan_Raith like how this might as well be a scimitar?

    • @funforall9741
      @funforall9741 Рік тому +11

      So make it useless is what I'm hearing

    • @-.Outlaw.-
      @-.Outlaw.- Рік тому +5

      @@DinnerForkTonguethere’s no way to make it practical. It’s a complete and utter downgrade

  • @HJRO
    @HJRO Рік тому +160

    Gotta agree with Shad. I love the traditional katana, but this looks amazing.

    • @TrueFork
      @TrueFork Рік тому +3

      I feel like either the blade should be longer, or the grip one-handed.

    • @myusername3689
      @myusername3689 Рік тому +2

      @@TrueForkhmmmmmm so like a 2 handed Falchion(I like to call it KriegsFalchion aka War Falchion)

  • @KAJ1994
    @KAJ1994 Рік тому +246

    New D&D character: Tyranth, the deeply conflicted artificer he despises all his creations.
    "The craftsmanship is fine, but I didn't feel good about it."😂

  • @jdzencelowcz
    @jdzencelowcz Рік тому +104

    Best part is, with the bamboo pins holding the hilt in place, U can #EndHimRightly without the whole thing coming apart after the pommel is unscrewed.

  • @Kiable7
    @Kiable7 8 місяців тому +2

    Just watched a video where a katana master used a long sword. Said he liked the pommel for the extra control but didn’t like the cross guard because if interfere with his form.

  • @craytherlaygaming2852
    @craytherlaygaming2852 Рік тому +117

    Seeing shad squealing with excitement like a schoolgirl with the Eurtana (European katana) is just... adorable and honestly, that alone should have made the 'pain' of creating this that Tironph went through worth it.

  • @Levermonkey
    @Levermonkey Рік тому +76

    Poor Tyranth. Interesting that his edge alignment went to cock because his brain was telling him "katana" whereas Shad simply regarded it as a sword and so kept his edge alignment.

  • @nucleonegro9762
    @nucleonegro9762 Рік тому +93

    Tyranth is a mad genius, this little experiment and the falchion made from the machete are examples of how brilliant he truly is

  • @christophercampbell8355
    @christophercampbell8355 Рік тому +4

    As someone who grew up obsessed with Japanese swords, but has come to accept their flaws... I LOVE THIS!!!!! now I want one

  • @djhogan65
    @djhogan65 Рік тому +120

    I like the functionality of the Scimitana.

  • @basketramens1865
    @basketramens1865 Рік тому +5

    It really looks like a shamshir with a handle long enough for two hands! Shamshirs are one of my favorite curved swords, and they don't get discussed enough!

  • @Ir0nRon1n
    @Ir0nRon1n Рік тому +274

    As a katana/kendo enjoyer, this scratches a very particular itch. Wish i could mess around with it and get a feel for the weight.

    • @Amplifymagic
      @Amplifymagic Рік тому +10

      I remember my fellow kendoka friend used to tell me people hid weights in the handles of their shinai for this exact reason of having more counterbalance and shifting the balance.
      Very interesting, he told me whoever did that made those shinai illegal for use in tournaments as well.

  • @danielrex7007
    @danielrex7007 Рік тому +141

    Now you guys need to invite a practitioner of the katana to give their thoughts on wielding it

    • @nopenopee2992
      @nopenopee2992 Рік тому +1

      yess plese

    • @samuelg7340
      @samuelg7340 Рік тому +15

      As a practitioner myself I can tell you it goes against most of the fundamental ways the katana works. You swing powered from the tanden (core) and you largely let the forward weight pull the blade extending your arms like a pendulum to create a circular motion. THIS is basically a scimitar with a katana blade at this point

    • @icefire-no7vm
      @icefire-no7vm Рік тому +2

      ​@samuelg7340 but could you use it effectively?

    • @ayrnovem9028
      @ayrnovem9028 Рік тому +10

      On top of the issues with balance another person mentioned above, the big crossguard is going to get in the way and possibly get entangled with opponent's armor/clothing if you try close-range draw cuts. Which are an important part of kenjitsu repertoire.
      Overall, this "remake" is... very far from ideal. Because of lack of understanding of the original design choices and the reasons behind them.
      Yes, of course you could still use it for kenjitsu. It is just less optimal. It is inferior as a katana and it is inferior as a kriegmesser (because the blade geometry is wrong). Just pick up a proper kriegmesser if you want one.
      You need to be very careful with the assumption that you can outsmart years and years of perfecting weapon designs when lives truly depended on them. Most likely, if you think "it is so easy to make this better", it comes from a lack of understanding.

    • @ДанилАбдибеков
      @ДанилАбдибеков Рік тому +3

      Has something of everything, and yet perfects none. Fitting I can say

  • @ScathingMobile
    @ScathingMobile 4 місяці тому

    This feels like Shad is a 5 year old swinging the cardboard tube from a roll of wrapping paper around, and Tyranth is the dad that knows he's going to be sweeping up bits of broken vase in a few minutes.

  • @ignathiel
    @ignathiel Рік тому +72

    If you classify the weapon by its place of origin and time of creation, rather than its geometry and function, then this is clearly a contemporary steel-edged boomerang :D

    • @Inuxxus
      @Inuxxus Рік тому +4

      Bit straight for a boomerang eh?

    • @matthewstonum8868
      @matthewstonum8868 Рік тому +1

      This is funnier than it should be

    • @ignathiel
      @ignathiel Рік тому +2

      @@Inuxxus It probably wouldn't come back to you if you throw it with a spin away from your position, either :D

  • @viscountsb7140
    @viscountsb7140 Рік тому +299

    Shad having so much fun with this sword is hilarious.

    • @DocWolph
      @DocWolph Рік тому +14

      Ever gotten a new tool that just does EVERYTIHNG you wanted that tool to do and did it well? That.

    • @Fuckyoubloodymoron
      @Fuckyoubloodymoron Рік тому +4

      His enthusiasm is just so endearing!
      Also, love Tyranth's dejection.
      It's like Yin and Yang, so spiritual.

    • @kirillzakharov7336
      @kirillzakharov7336 Рік тому +7

      especially with Tyranth being so negative about it

  • @catalystguitarguy
    @catalystguitarguy Рік тому +163

    So next is a long sword with a tsuba, katana wrap, and no pommel?
    I do love the forbidden katana though.

    • @ShiningDarknes
      @ShiningDarknes Рік тому +30

      So fundamentally worse in every way? I mean just for the meme they have to. They made one abomination may as well make another.

    • @aname4390
      @aname4390 Рік тому +3

      That sounds cursed and awesome as the same time.

    • @twilight_mourner1865
      @twilight_mourner1865 Рік тому

      That kinda reminds me of a Chinese saber somehow. It's shaped like one

    • @danielwesley5051
      @danielwesley5051 Рік тому +5

      Lose the tsuba and that’s just a jian

    • @MW_Asura
      @MW_Asura Рік тому

      That will just make it worse. Tsuba? Worse than crossguard. No pommel? No counter balance and no Mordhau. No thank you

  • @benparrish672
    @benparrish672 7 місяців тому +2

    This is awesome. I love Shad's enthusiasm for this; especially vs the maker's distain for it. Yawl should definitely make more custom weapons

  • @ryanread8617
    @ryanread8617 Рік тому +49

    I find that sword beautiful, gorgeous. Combining two cultures into a singular sword. I don't know but I would see that European katana sword as an legendary weapon made in an anime or something.

    • @czarus_the_sniper9924
      @czarus_the_sniper9924 Рік тому +3

      There is actually an anime where the MC gets both katana and longsword, has to decide which to choose, and just decides "meh" and magically fuses them into one another, creating a kriegsmesser. Pretty cool. Name of the anime is 'Chrome shelled regios'

  • @GethOverlord
    @GethOverlord Рік тому +71

    The look on Tyranth's face when Shad said he liked it is just priceless 😂

  • @R_Caine
    @R_Caine Рік тому +155

    Shad's like a kid in a candy store when he drew the blade. This is a whole new sword, we should call it The Tyranth.

    • @Al-manidae
      @Al-manidae Рік тому +24

      We need a Shabbard for the Tyranth.

    • @asmodon
      @asmodon Рік тому +10

      Just to spite him.

    • @Crimsonfangg
      @Crimsonfangg Рік тому +11

      This might be the one time someone doesn't appreciate a new design being named after them. He definitely doesn't want credit(blame?) for this.

    • @carlchristianlindalen9311
      @carlchristianlindalen9311 Рік тому +1

      Tyranthian Shaddar

  • @Qunia
    @Qunia Рік тому +403

    I honestly, might genuinely prefer something like this.
    I never liked the lack of cross-guard on a Katana.

    • @delfinenteddyson9865
      @delfinenteddyson9865 Рік тому +28

      I have to say i really like the lack of crossguard, it gives it a very elegant look. Very much like the shashka

    • @DrTheRich
      @DrTheRich Рік тому +10

      I think they should angle it a little bit, just smidge, to reduce the optical illusion.

    • @overlorddante
      @overlorddante Рік тому +14

      ​@@delfinenteddyson9865aesthetically I also prefer the disc guard, but if I had to fight with a sword, I'd prefer more hand protection. Not a fan of a cross guard on a katana, wishing they went with something that still gives off katana vibes. Perhaps some extensions to a disc guard?

    • @Lonewolfmike
      @Lonewolfmike Рік тому +4

      The guard on a katana was made that way for a reason.

    • @KnuttyEntertainment
      @KnuttyEntertainment Рік тому

      Like a saber hand guard?

  • @kazekamiha
    @kazekamiha 10 місяців тому +1

    So when a katana and longsword love each other very very much...

  • @timeshark8727
    @timeshark8727 Рік тому +160

    Combine the best parts of a longsword and katana!? ... ... wait, isn't that just a 2 handed Falchion?

    • @wolfbane7497
      @wolfbane7497 Рік тому +22

      Shut up this is called the heron class sword a fusion of a katana and longsword

    • @skrublordnord69
      @skrublordnord69 Рік тому

      @@wolfbane7497no you shut up stinky man

    • @realLagMaster
      @realLagMaster Рік тому +17

      It's a scimitar!

    • @lucasblanchard47
      @lucasblanchard47 Рік тому +9

      @@realLagMaster a fine schmitmar!

    • @FARBerserker
      @FARBerserker Рік тому +30

      no, it is a kriegsmesser.

  • @abominateshun3386
    @abominateshun3386 Рік тому +47

    When Tyranth said "this sort of content" I heard it as "this sword of content" and now I kind of want to see a dedicated sword build and name it "The Sword of Content", which would probably turn into jokes like "No one is prepared for this Sword of Content!" or "My Sword of Content is better than your Sword of Content!"

    • @jollygoodfellow3957
      @jollygoodfellow3957 Рік тому

      You can't force a meme.

    • @Echo_419
      @Echo_419 Рік тому +3

      ​@@jollygoodfellow3957it's still rather clever.

    • @andrewli6606
      @andrewli6606 Рік тому

      Kind of is the Sword of Content as it's just here to cause clickbait rage.

    • @nochsta
      @nochsta Рік тому +3

      @@andrewli6606Tyranth would say it’s the Sword of Discontent.

    • @danthiel8623
      @danthiel8623 Рік тому

      lol

  • @tommeakin1732
    @tommeakin1732 Рік тому +67

    Lawyer: "Tyranth, you need to understand that the legal system really does take the abuse of employees seriously; but to help you we need to get a sense of what happened so we can build a case. What did Shad make you do that was clearly so traumatic...?"
    Tyranth: **Shivering in the corner, staring a thousand miles into the wall**

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 5 місяців тому +1

    Two handed swords should use Odachi blades. No point having a short sword length that requires 2 hands to use

  • @shun-li8204
    @shun-li8204 Рік тому +187

    I like this build.
    Reminds me of the Chikage katana from Bloodborne; a weapon made by western knights based on their understanding of a "foreign weapon" they once saw but using their own materials, design and assembly methods.

    • @prinzeugen9588
      @prinzeugen9588 9 місяців тому +20

      ah, a hoonter i see. I do be loving the Chikage.

    • @somethingsomething9059
      @somethingsomething9059 8 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@prinzeugen9588a hoonter must hoont! Leave the hoonting of hoonters to Eileen!

    • @SkotoSbyBishoP
      @SkotoSbyBishoP 8 місяців тому +10

      Long was the night, good hunter.

    • @Callsign_Kishin
      @Callsign_Kishin 8 місяців тому +3

      “For the honor, of Cainhurst.”

    • @bwackbeedows3629
      @bwackbeedows3629 8 місяців тому +2

      "Why are these Almonds shooting lasers at me?"

  • @IntheDAW
    @IntheDAW Рік тому +25

    Shads excitement makes me want to see so much more of this sword.

  • @timraup4888
    @timraup4888 9 місяців тому +4

    Honestly, this reminds me of the artistic rendering for the heron-marked sword from The Wheel of Time. I always thought it was katana-esque, and this video validates the design.

  • @clayallen4955
    @clayallen4955 Рік тому +51

    It’s not an abomination it’s an amalgamation of awesome

  • @Innomenatus
    @Innomenatus Рік тому +182

    Sometimes abominations are a quite beneficial to blades, even in spite of tradition. Can't wait to see what amalgamation you guys will try next!

    • @Erebus.666.
      @Erebus.666. Рік тому +16

      It is after all how the wide variety of swords came to be. Just some random swordsmith trying something different. If it worked, people liked it and copied it.

    • @murphieslaw6932
      @murphieslaw6932 Рік тому

      @@Erebus.666. Amen !

    • @malucoblz588
      @malucoblz588 Рік тому +6

      Halberd + Japanese Spear

    • @aldovk6681
      @aldovk6681 Рік тому +6

      That's why innovation beats tradition in warfare, the ability to challenge conventional ideas and replace it with new ones

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue Рік тому +2

      ​@@aldovk6681 Tradition is only good as long as it is practical and has good reason to be maintained.

  • @LordMaskin
    @LordMaskin Рік тому +2

    In the Wheel of Time, Robert Jordan already added a crossguard to the Katana and that is what the Heron Marked swords looked like. The wrap was changed to be most european style solid wood, with a leather wrap, or felt wrap. IF you look online you can find hundreds of examples of RJ's swords.

  • @elitemook4234
    @elitemook4234 Рік тому +51

    Tyranth: my god, what have I created?
    Shad: It's alive! It's ALIVE! ‘Deranged laughter’

  • @SoNiChtw
    @SoNiChtw 8 місяців тому

    I love it, if gunpowder was never invented this is what katakana would evolve into. Fusion of styles to eliminate the original weakness.

  • @Nara.Shikamaru
    @Nara.Shikamaru Рік тому +100

    The red gambeson with the fur is the cleanest fucking armor I think I’ve ever seen. God damn that is slick.
    Edit: Brigandine… sorry I’m a little 🍀

    • @AnimaVox_
      @AnimaVox_ Рік тому +14

      That's actually a brigandine, but yeah, I agree, it looks nice.

    • @SupremeDP
      @SupremeDP Рік тому +3

      t's a brigandine ;)

    • @aaftiyoDkcdicurak
      @aaftiyoDkcdicurak Рік тому +1

      Yep I would definitely rock that.

  • @Zoraxon
    @Zoraxon Рік тому +28

    I really like it. It feels like a mix of middle eastern swords or a Slavic cutlass like the Polish sabre or the Shashka. It's a delightful vibe

  • @ducktheseraph
    @ducktheseraph Рік тому +32

    As much as I know this tore at Tyranth's soul, I think it turned out super cool. I had the same ideas when you were building it that the pommel would balance the sword better for one hand.
    I always enjoy the mad scientist vs engineer type discussions with these builds 😂

  • @benjamintherogue2421
    @benjamintherogue2421 10 місяців тому +4

    I sincerely hope this weapon makes an appearance in one of Shad's future books.

  • @tibaronmagnus3672
    @tibaronmagnus3672 Рік тому +15

    Honestly this feels like a sort of combination between a scimitar and bastard sword, especially hearing you talk about how easy it is to wield in one hand as well as two hands. Considering the length of the blade overall as well as the handle construction in relation to it, I think this is a really fascinating sword design, and despite how incredibly cursed it is in concept, the finished product turned out very good.

  • @JustTooDamnHonest
    @JustTooDamnHonest Рік тому +56

    It is always nice to see Tyranth in his element.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg Рік тому +2

      Earth element, metalbending?
      Or steel furycrafter in Aleran fashion?

    • @JustTooDamnHonest
      @JustTooDamnHonest Рік тому +2

      @@Grandwigg Smithing.

  • @Ervo
    @Ervo 11 місяців тому +1

    Congratulations, you have reinvented the scimitar

  • @sandhamitizer9706
    @sandhamitizer9706 Рік тому +45

    I think the medieval megapack mod for Blade And Sorcery has something like this in it. Pretty sure they call it the Bastard Saber. Its described as what would happen if a blacksmith from the west got his hands on a blade from the east.

    • @kyujaku4254
      @kyujaku4254 Рік тому +4

      I was gonna say the same thing, funnily enough, one of my favorite swords to use

  • @jaytwokay3265
    @jaytwokay3265 Рік тому +26

    Probably my favorite katana video you guys have done so far.

  • @SeantheBawse
    @SeantheBawse Рік тому +1

    Now, it will cut the fabric of Space-Time? Then it's not good enough! Now...break down A Knight's Tale!

  • @meanbirchgaming1265
    @meanbirchgaming1265 Рік тому +46

    The kriegsmesser. Best sword.

    • @m.h.6470
      @m.h.6470 Рік тому

      yeah, essentially this is a kriegsmesser where the nagel was removed and a pommel was added.

  • @lachlanparker570
    @lachlanparker570 Рік тому +27

    I want one. I really do. The reasons are as you stated, so there's no point to elaborating this time.
    Edit: it's not inherently a Scimitar or Katana. It's a modern abomination, and I love it almost as much as you do. Not because I think that it's a perfected Katana (which I don't), but because it's a cultureless hybrid weapon that shouldn't work but does.

  • @gameandbros5462
    @gameandbros5462 8 місяців тому

    "Gotta keep one jump ahead of the breadline,
    One swing ahead of the sword!"

  • @commiedeer
    @commiedeer Рік тому +66

    Shad is like a kid on Christmas morning and Tyranth is the artist that can only see the flaws in his creation.

    • @mingthan7028
      @mingthan7028 10 місяців тому

      Tyranth is Oppenheimer asf

  • @NeBuLiSt
    @NeBuLiSt Рік тому +39

    Awesome to see Tyranth in action in the workshop!!! Keep up the good work!!!
    Shads reaction is so hilarious!!! Hahaha, love it!!!

    • @realLagMaster
      @realLagMaster Рік тому

      Ty should have his own intro. It should be called Craftin' with Tyranth

  • @wheelchazeal8089
    @wheelchazeal8089 Рік тому +1

    That’s exactly what I imagined Tam’s sword to look like from Wheel of Time.

  • @calebjohnson3107
    @calebjohnson3107 Рік тому +18

    Half of you said longsword, half said katana, great what about those of us who love the scottish claymore?

    • @thisdude9363
      @thisdude9363 Рік тому +4

      You mean a greatsword, or an ACTUAL claymore, which is a basket-hilted, one-handed sword?

    • @seangrey
      @seangrey Рік тому

      @@thisdude9363 claymore is just anglicised version of claiomh mor literally meaning big sword in Gaelic. its a colloquial term really and what 'big sword' meant would depend on the time period.both the two handed claymore and the basket hilt you mentioned were claoimh mor but at different times.

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Рік тому

      ​@@seangreyaren't those contemporary, at least have an overlap? the two handers are mid 16th to early 17th from what I remember, whereas the basket hilted one is early 17th onwards. They did exist side by side for quite a generation or two, from what I remember.

    • @seangrey
      @seangrey Рік тому

      @@leonardomarquesbellini 15th to 17th was the two-hander and the basket hilt was 18th onward.though to be fair there likely was some overlap of use as change never happens neatly.

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Рік тому

      @@seangrey can't give you a source right now, but I remember some accounts of Scottish mercenaries working for the Swedes during the wars with Poland in the 17th century carrying basket hilted swords. Maybe not the traditional shape that would be used later and possibly not even a true Scottish design, but there you have it. Don't know for sure where I read that or how trustworthy it is, though.

  • @ProcyonDei
    @ProcyonDei Рік тому +9

    TBF, one of the biggest selling points of the katana is how modular it is, you don't have to be a blacksmith to take the katana apart and swap out the pieces for new ones; so while on one hand this is literally just making a kriegsmesser with extra steps, on the other hand this is also fair play...

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Рік тому +2

      Kriegsmesser has a thinner spine profile, a wider flat, a more defined point, tapers more along the spine, typically has a fuller ,and no obvious bevels.
      The kriegsmesser will typically have more reach and because of its construction is significantly less rigid and is more flexible. The thrusting should also be better. The slicing and cutting on the kriegsmesser and katana is most likely comparable on soft targets but against armor the katana will probably deliver more blunt force just because it’s more rigid I’d imagine.
      The weight distribution is also different on the respective swords in their traditional format but the modified katana here probably handles more similarly to the kriegsmesser.

  • @chrisnesbitt6259
    @chrisnesbitt6259 2 місяці тому

    If you put a heron mark on the blade, you have Rand Al’Thors sword from WoT

  • @sodathejunker
    @sodathejunker Рік тому +4

    It’s hilarious both appreciating Tyranth’s respect for feeling shame about his frankenstein build defaming both the integrity of European and Japanese design… while simultaneously appreciating Shad’s pure unbridled joy from being presented with what he’s stated many times is a dream build he’d love to see.

    • @sodathejunker
      @sodathejunker Рік тому +1

      Watching Tyranth habitually wanting to sheath it and then having whiplash because he can’t is absolutely priceless.

  • @michaelandersen7638
    @michaelandersen7638 Рік тому +7

    This modified Katana is what I think of when I imagine the "Heron-Marked Sword" from the Robert Jordan books. At least the basic aspect.

    • @Deimos_One
      @Deimos_One Рік тому +1

      Exactly!

    • @murdmart
      @murdmart Рік тому

      My first thought as well. Those straight quilions lend it a bit of Polish saber vibe.

  • @Peter62400
    @Peter62400 8 місяців тому +1

    Gorgeous sword. Makes you think why the medieval Japanese never tried to improve on the design on the katana. Has to do with tradition, but after how many cut fingers does practicability outweigh tradition.

  • @shadowwalker4292
    @shadowwalker4292 Рік тому +24

    This was solid! Even when I was younger and had more of a bias for katanas, I often wondered what it'd be like if somebody put a crossguard on one, but never came across any examples where it was done and didn't have the knowledge or resources to try it myself. I'm not disappointed at all, may not go as far as saying it's an improvement since all sword/weapon styles are good for their intended purpose, but it's absolutely a bad ass evolution.

  • @Archeantus_
    @Archeantus_ Рік тому +30

    If you haven't done it already, do a comparison between this and a kriegsmesser. I'd love to see the results!

  • @allismind9386
    @allismind9386 Рік тому +112

    Swordsmanship and the development of an art style are part of why the katana is designed this way. Also it's a sword meant to suit the average adult Japanese male. The handle would be shorter because they typically have smaller hands. They swing with the frame of the skeleton and not just the arm and hips being why the blade is top heavy. You should bring a Japan swordsman and get his take on the modification it would be very educational.

    • @legoslicerfilms1028
      @legoslicerfilms1028 10 місяців тому +11

      Yes, I feel like with the differences added, any user using traditional technique would have to change/adapt to the newer blade, functionally creating a different swordsmanship style

    • @a.t.o.mworkshop6409
      @a.t.o.mworkshop6409 8 місяців тому +11

      They have to contact Shogo : he made a video where a katana master tried a broadsword for the first time. His take on this weapon would be very interesting.

    • @DanielMcKay
      @DanielMcKay 8 місяців тому +2

      @@a.t.o.mworkshop6409 I was thinking this exact same thing. it would be a vary fun and educational Collab video.

  • @Naymy
    @Naymy 11 місяців тому

    I love it when two experts are passionate about two very different view points, because, neither are right or wrong. It is a matter of preference.

  • @chiloutdude5130
    @chiloutdude5130 Рік тому +11

    This concept is very intriguing to me. I hope you guys continue doing this sort of "let's move pieces from one weapon to another to make a 'better' version" thing, because I was just as wowed as Shad here.

  • @xcelentei
    @xcelentei Рік тому +35

    It's a shame the Japanese wrap had to be dismantled in the crafting process. The wrap-style and grip is my favorite part of the katana so I think it would go a long way towards making the abomination look more like a Japanese sword.

  • @festeradams8289
    @festeradams8289 Рік тому +13

    Looks like the swords are described in the Wheel of Time. The Heron marked swords from the Age of Legends that sword masters use. I love it and want one.

  • @benmiller9536
    @benmiller9536 3 місяці тому

    Ok, here is a few ideas to improve upon it.
    1. You can get a reverse blade katana and add the same bits to it. Meaning you would be striking with the back side of the blade which will be sharp instead of the front, if I'm not mistaken, it's like a sickle sword. I mean you might as well go full middle eastern with it since you're already halfway there.
    2. So you don't feel weird about adding western parts to an eastern blade, you can use a Chinese cross guard and pommel. The Jian might still feel wierd, but I can see a Dadao working for it. your pommel would be more ring like instead for it, though I'm pretty sure the Dadao doesn't have a detachable pommel, that the ring on the end is supposed to be part of the tang.
    3. Maybe a slightly longer blade if the weight being balanced really feels that weird.
    I look forward to seeing the future evolution of this fusions sword.

  • @iantheduellist
    @iantheduellist Рік тому +27

    I wish you did videos on diferent types of swords, like rapiers, sabers or smallswords. I would really like to hear your opinions on them, as well as more study dedicated to these swords in general.

    • @MrSimpsondennis
      @MrSimpsondennis Рік тому +8

      issue is that they're getting bad revenue from ads and katana's are the most viral sword.

    • @iantheduellist
      @iantheduellist Рік тому

      @@MrSimpsondennis Oh ok. Then I'll wait for better days.

    • @cappinjocj9316
      @cappinjocj9316 Рік тому +2

      The Nunchuck-Flail episode would be hilarious.

    • @skrublordnord69
      @skrublordnord69 Рік тому +3

      I’d love to see them use a rapier

    • @skrublordnord69
      @skrublordnord69 Рік тому +2

      I’d also like to see them use maybe a Katar or some other obscure and weird weapon

  • @infinity4738
    @infinity4738 Рік тому +25

    I LOVE Shads excitement and happiness for the new blade

  • @Sigma0283
    @Sigma0283 Рік тому +3

    The way the improved katana looks, that can easily qualify as a Heron Mark Sword from The Wheel of Time or even Callandor itself.

    • @VertigoX26
      @VertigoX26 8 місяців тому

      I was thinking this!

  • @johnlloyddy7016
    @johnlloyddy7016 Рік тому +42

    What you've made is basically a single edge heron marked blade from the Wheel of Time series. A more intricately designed cross guard shaped like a heron with wings spread like those shown in the books would make it perfect.

    • @silverspade8394
      @silverspade8394 Рік тому +2

      i would say its basically the worse version of a middle eastern/persian scimitar(not the fat abominations in pop culture that never historically existed). what these scimitars had the advantage was the arching over under or under over thrusts that can go through a parry and one of the reason why sabers are so commonly used for duels (ofcourse European rapiers are also excellent in that regards to duels). second reason is horseback use. this balde is not curved enough to achieve both those functions. it cuts well etc but in a duel with similar skilled the guy with European or a middle easterrn bladewould slaughter this hybrid sword.

    • @icedadx44x
      @icedadx44x Рік тому +1

      This was my thought

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, it is pretty much identical other than the quillons (and the markings of course).

  • @StrawberryNUKE
    @StrawberryNUKE Рік тому +7

    This is like a conversation between a mechanic and an engineer

  • @BloodnSteel
    @BloodnSteel Рік тому +15

    Interesting premise in general, kind of wish more people would do hybrid sword videos like this. That said, thank you guys for showing how it was done especially, I didn't expect that, but it really helps the whole premise so much more, I think.

    • @coopercummings8370
      @coopercummings8370 Рік тому

      The problem isn't really such a thing as a hybrid sword, swords weren't made to fit into strictly defined categories, they were very often individual, handmade items made to suit the buyer, with many of the factors adjusting from individual sword to individual sword and evolving over time, also almost anything you can think of has been done before. This is pretty much just a relatively short kriegsmesser.

    • @andrewli6606
      @andrewli6606 Рік тому

      @@coopercummings8370 It is a hybrid sword. A katana is pretty strictly defined. Longswords also have a modern definition even if less strict. Has a sword like this existed in antiquity? Yes, but it wasn't a katana blade with a European hilt.

  • @fighterx4133
    @fighterx4133 Рік тому

    The amount of porosity in those welds on the pommel hurts my soul

  • @WillFredward7167
    @WillFredward7167 Рік тому +9

    Shad: You have earned awesome friends. I’m happy for all of you.

  • @entropybear5847
    @entropybear5847 5 місяців тому

    Basket hilted Katana. Basket hilted axe. Basket hilted EVERYTHING!!!!!

  • @might_y
    @might_y Рік тому +1

    I whish you ad combined both the round guard and the cross guard for this sword it would have looked Dope.

  • @deathdeathington
    @deathdeathington Рік тому +43

    That sword is insane. Props to Tyranth for making such a beastly abomination.

  • @kamilri
    @kamilri Рік тому +6

    The most interesting thing for me is how Shad look more fluid with this sword than normal catana, where Tyrant looks by similar amount less fluid than normal with it.

  • @pungoblin9377
    @pungoblin9377 Рік тому +8

    Fun fact: Tyranth’s hidden talent is not his strength, but rather his incredible speed! None of that footage was sped up!

  • @Rhondaandjames
    @Rhondaandjames 8 місяців тому

    Kult of Athena used to carry a sword in the fantasy section called "The Heron Mark Blade" It was basically what you guys just did. It was obviously an attempt to make Rand's Sword from the Wheel of Time while dodging the copywrite.