How fitting that when you mix Japanese and European bladesmithing, you get a weapon that looks straight out of Persia. Even geographically, it's a middle ground between both civilisations. 😁
You are not very good with geografy, are you? 😂 I mean, yeah Persia is sort of between but Azia... Azia is huge. It wouldnt be anywhere near the middel 😂 not even close 😅😅
@@bielinskibartosz7099 Better than you are at English 😏 Also better than you at geograPHy too. Or did you forget that the old Silk Route ran _exactly_ through the Persian region? Do you really believe they circumnavigated India? Braved the Gobi desert to pass through Mongol/Slavic territories? Please.
It was a thing of beauty watching Shad get giddy as a school girl, while Tryanth looked like he regretted his life decisions that lead to this momment. It was like he had remorse for building the weapon that would destroy the world.
The only thing asidy from the steel quality that I'd have to say is that it would have beem nice to keep the Handle's aestetic, but I guess the Pommel would end up having to be custommade and youd potentially end up having to unwrap it every time you try to take it off.
The lack of Iron on the Japanese islands was a driving reason for only using Iron for Blades and other vital items, hence bamboo and paper armors, Shad this is quite possibly what the Katana would have been had resources been abundant.
Doesn't seem to be the case since china and Korea had plenty of iron but also felt it was wasteful and heavy to use up so much iron on the accessory pieces of the sword.
@@trevtall1094 um............. your aware he thinks the katana is good and awesome already, yes? like in literally countless videos he says this, LITERALLY any of them. he says time and time ans time and time again they are awesome and good swords. but people like YOU dont listen to that. all you hear is "BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH, issues with katana, BLAH BLAH BLAH, it could be improved by, BLAH BLAH BLAH, European sword is better in.... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH." thats literally what people like you hear so you NEVER hear him praise the katana for the strengths it has, so you just assume(or lie) that he thinks its dumb and not good, when that is not the case.
@@danielwesley5051 Well accurately his buddy solve and even that guy knew what hell he unleashed. It's cursed simply because of that bulging pommel whereas I've seen Katanas that have pommels already made by China and Korea from stealing Katanas from pirates with the help of Japan. Although they kept the tsuba there's already a natural bigger tsuba already before but not as long as the cross guard
I agree. I am waiting for the Shadiversity glamor calendar featuring Tyranth oiled and bare to the world, a strategically placed broadsword covering his manhood, little Shad Cherubs polishing the thick long blade.
"Middle eastern vibes", Shad gave me EXACTLY the words I needed to explain the impression this sword gave me. It's interesting that when combining elements from two distant cultures, you end up with something that looks a lot like what the cultures geographically between those two produced!
The middle east and Japan has a lot of aspects that are similar. For example, they have swords that have a hard to replicate alloys. Also from what I heard, the tune of Arab music and modern Japanese music is similar.
This looks great! I'm going to describe this as an infantry sword in the stories I'm writing, though short enough to be used one-handed meant to be used alongside a medium round shield.
I love the sheer happiness that Shad has testing out Tyranth's creations - both the falchion and now the katana remakes have been my favorite videos to watch just because Shad acts like a little kid on christmas morning, it's great~
New D&D character: Tyranth, the deeply conflicted artificer he despises all his creations. "The craftsmanship is fine, but I didn't feel good about it."😂
Just watched a video where a katana master used a long sword. Said he liked the pommel for the extra control but didn’t like the cross guard because if interfere with his form.
Seeing shad squealing with excitement like a schoolgirl with the Eurtana (European katana) is just... adorable and honestly, that alone should have made the 'pain' of creating this that Tironph went through worth it.
Poor Tyranth. Interesting that his edge alignment went to cock because his brain was telling him "katana" whereas Shad simply regarded it as a sword and so kept his edge alignment.
It really looks like a shamshir with a handle long enough for two hands! Shamshirs are one of my favorite curved swords, and they don't get discussed enough!
I remember my fellow kendoka friend used to tell me people hid weights in the handles of their shinai for this exact reason of having more counterbalance and shifting the balance. Very interesting, he told me whoever did that made those shinai illegal for use in tournaments as well.
As a practitioner myself I can tell you it goes against most of the fundamental ways the katana works. You swing powered from the tanden (core) and you largely let the forward weight pull the blade extending your arms like a pendulum to create a circular motion. THIS is basically a scimitar with a katana blade at this point
On top of the issues with balance another person mentioned above, the big crossguard is going to get in the way and possibly get entangled with opponent's armor/clothing if you try close-range draw cuts. Which are an important part of kenjitsu repertoire. Overall, this "remake" is... very far from ideal. Because of lack of understanding of the original design choices and the reasons behind them. Yes, of course you could still use it for kenjitsu. It is just less optimal. It is inferior as a katana and it is inferior as a kriegmesser (because the blade geometry is wrong). Just pick up a proper kriegmesser if you want one. You need to be very careful with the assumption that you can outsmart years and years of perfecting weapon designs when lives truly depended on them. Most likely, if you think "it is so easy to make this better", it comes from a lack of understanding.
This feels like Shad is a 5 year old swinging the cardboard tube from a roll of wrapping paper around, and Tyranth is the dad that knows he's going to be sweeping up bits of broken vase in a few minutes.
If you classify the weapon by its place of origin and time of creation, rather than its geometry and function, then this is clearly a contemporary steel-edged boomerang :D
I find that sword beautiful, gorgeous. Combining two cultures into a singular sword. I don't know but I would see that European katana sword as an legendary weapon made in an anime or something.
There is actually an anime where the MC gets both katana and longsword, has to decide which to choose, and just decides "meh" and magically fuses them into one another, creating a kriegsmesser. Pretty cool. Name of the anime is 'Chrome shelled regios'
@@delfinenteddyson9865aesthetically I also prefer the disc guard, but if I had to fight with a sword, I'd prefer more hand protection. Not a fan of a cross guard on a katana, wishing they went with something that still gives off katana vibes. Perhaps some extensions to a disc guard?
When Tyranth said "this sort of content" I heard it as "this sword of content" and now I kind of want to see a dedicated sword build and name it "The Sword of Content", which would probably turn into jokes like "No one is prepared for this Sword of Content!" or "My Sword of Content is better than your Sword of Content!"
Lawyer: "Tyranth, you need to understand that the legal system really does take the abuse of employees seriously; but to help you we need to get a sense of what happened so we can build a case. What did Shad make you do that was clearly so traumatic...?" Tyranth: **Shivering in the corner, staring a thousand miles into the wall**
I like this build. Reminds me of the Chikage katana from Bloodborne; a weapon made by western knights based on their understanding of a "foreign weapon" they once saw but using their own materials, design and assembly methods.
Honestly, this reminds me of the artistic rendering for the heron-marked sword from The Wheel of Time. I always thought it was katana-esque, and this video validates the design.
It is after all how the wide variety of swords came to be. Just some random swordsmith trying something different. If it worked, people liked it and copied it.
In the Wheel of Time, Robert Jordan already added a crossguard to the Katana and that is what the Heron Marked swords looked like. The wrap was changed to be most european style solid wood, with a leather wrap, or felt wrap. IF you look online you can find hundreds of examples of RJ's swords.
As much as I know this tore at Tyranth's soul, I think it turned out super cool. I had the same ideas when you were building it that the pommel would balance the sword better for one hand. I always enjoy the mad scientist vs engineer type discussions with these builds 😂
Honestly this feels like a sort of combination between a scimitar and bastard sword, especially hearing you talk about how easy it is to wield in one hand as well as two hands. Considering the length of the blade overall as well as the handle construction in relation to it, I think this is a really fascinating sword design, and despite how incredibly cursed it is in concept, the finished product turned out very good.
I think the medieval megapack mod for Blade And Sorcery has something like this in it. Pretty sure they call it the Bastard Saber. Its described as what would happen if a blacksmith from the west got his hands on a blade from the east.
I want one. I really do. The reasons are as you stated, so there's no point to elaborating this time. Edit: it's not inherently a Scimitar or Katana. It's a modern abomination, and I love it almost as much as you do. Not because I think that it's a perfected Katana (which I don't), but because it's a cultureless hybrid weapon that shouldn't work but does.
@@thisdude9363 claymore is just anglicised version of claiomh mor literally meaning big sword in Gaelic. its a colloquial term really and what 'big sword' meant would depend on the time period.both the two handed claymore and the basket hilt you mentioned were claoimh mor but at different times.
@@seangreyaren't those contemporary, at least have an overlap? the two handers are mid 16th to early 17th from what I remember, whereas the basket hilted one is early 17th onwards. They did exist side by side for quite a generation or two, from what I remember.
@@leonardomarquesbellini 15th to 17th was the two-hander and the basket hilt was 18th onward.though to be fair there likely was some overlap of use as change never happens neatly.
@@seangrey can't give you a source right now, but I remember some accounts of Scottish mercenaries working for the Swedes during the wars with Poland in the 17th century carrying basket hilted swords. Maybe not the traditional shape that would be used later and possibly not even a true Scottish design, but there you have it. Don't know for sure where I read that or how trustworthy it is, though.
TBF, one of the biggest selling points of the katana is how modular it is, you don't have to be a blacksmith to take the katana apart and swap out the pieces for new ones; so while on one hand this is literally just making a kriegsmesser with extra steps, on the other hand this is also fair play...
Kriegsmesser has a thinner spine profile, a wider flat, a more defined point, tapers more along the spine, typically has a fuller ,and no obvious bevels. The kriegsmesser will typically have more reach and because of its construction is significantly less rigid and is more flexible. The thrusting should also be better. The slicing and cutting on the kriegsmesser and katana is most likely comparable on soft targets but against armor the katana will probably deliver more blunt force just because it’s more rigid I’d imagine. The weight distribution is also different on the respective swords in their traditional format but the modified katana here probably handles more similarly to the kriegsmesser.
It’s hilarious both appreciating Tyranth’s respect for feeling shame about his frankenstein build defaming both the integrity of European and Japanese design… while simultaneously appreciating Shad’s pure unbridled joy from being presented with what he’s stated many times is a dream build he’d love to see.
Gorgeous sword. Makes you think why the medieval Japanese never tried to improve on the design on the katana. Has to do with tradition, but after how many cut fingers does practicability outweigh tradition.
This was solid! Even when I was younger and had more of a bias for katanas, I often wondered what it'd be like if somebody put a crossguard on one, but never came across any examples where it was done and didn't have the knowledge or resources to try it myself. I'm not disappointed at all, may not go as far as saying it's an improvement since all sword/weapon styles are good for their intended purpose, but it's absolutely a bad ass evolution.
Swordsmanship and the development of an art style are part of why the katana is designed this way. Also it's a sword meant to suit the average adult Japanese male. The handle would be shorter because they typically have smaller hands. They swing with the frame of the skeleton and not just the arm and hips being why the blade is top heavy. You should bring a Japan swordsman and get his take on the modification it would be very educational.
Yes, I feel like with the differences added, any user using traditional technique would have to change/adapt to the newer blade, functionally creating a different swordsmanship style
They have to contact Shogo : he made a video where a katana master tried a broadsword for the first time. His take on this weapon would be very interesting.
This concept is very intriguing to me. I hope you guys continue doing this sort of "let's move pieces from one weapon to another to make a 'better' version" thing, because I was just as wowed as Shad here.
It's a shame the Japanese wrap had to be dismantled in the crafting process. The wrap-style and grip is my favorite part of the katana so I think it would go a long way towards making the abomination look more like a Japanese sword.
Looks like the swords are described in the Wheel of Time. The Heron marked swords from the Age of Legends that sword masters use. I love it and want one.
Ok, here is a few ideas to improve upon it. 1. You can get a reverse blade katana and add the same bits to it. Meaning you would be striking with the back side of the blade which will be sharp instead of the front, if I'm not mistaken, it's like a sickle sword. I mean you might as well go full middle eastern with it since you're already halfway there. 2. So you don't feel weird about adding western parts to an eastern blade, you can use a Chinese cross guard and pommel. The Jian might still feel wierd, but I can see a Dadao working for it. your pommel would be more ring like instead for it, though I'm pretty sure the Dadao doesn't have a detachable pommel, that the ring on the end is supposed to be part of the tang. 3. Maybe a slightly longer blade if the weight being balanced really feels that weird. I look forward to seeing the future evolution of this fusions sword.
I wish you did videos on diferent types of swords, like rapiers, sabers or smallswords. I would really like to hear your opinions on them, as well as more study dedicated to these swords in general.
What you've made is basically a single edge heron marked blade from the Wheel of Time series. A more intricately designed cross guard shaped like a heron with wings spread like those shown in the books would make it perfect.
i would say its basically the worse version of a middle eastern/persian scimitar(not the fat abominations in pop culture that never historically existed). what these scimitars had the advantage was the arching over under or under over thrusts that can go through a parry and one of the reason why sabers are so commonly used for duels (ofcourse European rapiers are also excellent in that regards to duels). second reason is horseback use. this balde is not curved enough to achieve both those functions. it cuts well etc but in a duel with similar skilled the guy with European or a middle easterrn bladewould slaughter this hybrid sword.
Interesting premise in general, kind of wish more people would do hybrid sword videos like this. That said, thank you guys for showing how it was done especially, I didn't expect that, but it really helps the whole premise so much more, I think.
The problem isn't really such a thing as a hybrid sword, swords weren't made to fit into strictly defined categories, they were very often individual, handmade items made to suit the buyer, with many of the factors adjusting from individual sword to individual sword and evolving over time, also almost anything you can think of has been done before. This is pretty much just a relatively short kriegsmesser.
@@coopercummings8370 It is a hybrid sword. A katana is pretty strictly defined. Longswords also have a modern definition even if less strict. Has a sword like this existed in antiquity? Yes, but it wasn't a katana blade with a European hilt.
The most interesting thing for me is how Shad look more fluid with this sword than normal catana, where Tyrant looks by similar amount less fluid than normal with it.
Kult of Athena used to carry a sword in the fantasy section called "The Heron Mark Blade" It was basically what you guys just did. It was obviously an attempt to make Rand's Sword from the Wheel of Time while dodging the copywrite.
Katana is Done, what’s next ?
Zweihander
Any Dao. I don’t particularly care which one. 😂
Naginata cross Bec de Corbin.
....and so a Barstana was born.
@@floridman2792yes
Tyranth: I have made an abomination.
Shad: This blade speaks to me, like a long lover, we are united together forever.
The katanitar
The scimitana
Now we need to do the opposite, a longsword with a katana hilt and guard.
Somehow "long lover" works better than "long lost lover" here.
wrggg
How fitting that when you mix Japanese and European bladesmithing, you get a weapon that looks straight out of Persia. Even geographically, it's a middle ground between both civilisations. 😁
Well that can't be a coincidence
@@jesperaung8592 Definitely not.
It's a happy little accident.
You are not very good with geografy, are you? 😂 I mean, yeah Persia is sort of between but Azia... Azia is huge. It wouldnt be anywhere near the middel 😂 not even close 😅😅
@@bielinskibartosz7099
Better than you are at English 😏
Also better than you at geograPHy too. Or did you forget that the old Silk Route ran _exactly_ through the Persian region? Do you really believe they circumnavigated India? Braved the Gobi desert to pass through Mongol/Slavic territories? Please.
Shad's overflowing happy excitement and Tyranth's unfeigned disgust are hilarious together.
One man's favorite sword, another man's most disgusting abomination. I love the contrast in reactions to it.
It was a thing of beauty watching Shad get giddy as a school girl, while Tryanth looked like he regretted his life decisions that lead to this momment. It was like he had remorse for building the weapon that would destroy the world.
@@ostrowulf This was basically Tyranth's "I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" Oppenheimer moment.
The only thing asidy from the steel quality that I'd have to say is that it would have beem nice to keep the Handle's aestetic, but I guess the Pommel would end up having to be custommade and youd potentially end up having to unwrap it every time you try to take it off.
lawful good vs chaotic good
The lack of Iron on the Japanese islands was a driving reason for only using Iron for Blades and other vital items, hence bamboo and paper armors, Shad this is quite possibly what the Katana would have been had resources been abundant.
or just call the blade "Landsknecht", done since 16th century
Doesn't seem to be the case since china and Korea had plenty of iron but also felt it was wasteful and heavy to use up so much iron on the accessory pieces of the sword.
@@jason200912ur talking about china and korea when a katana is from japan😂
@@docsevvy lookup china's and koreas version of the katana.
@@jason200912 bruh, still can't grasp the point? this comment way above us is literally talking about japan, how u jumpin countries man, jeez
The cackle from shad as he realizes the top levels of bait he has just unleashed on the sword community.😂
Nah he just thinks adding a screwable pommel makes the katana awesome
He’s solved the biggest weakness of the katana, now you can end them rightly with it!
@@trevtall1094 um............. your aware he thinks the katana is good and awesome already, yes? like in literally countless videos he says this, LITERALLY any of them. he says time and time ans time and time again they are awesome and good swords. but people like YOU dont listen to that.
all you hear is "BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLAH BLAH BLAH, issues with katana, BLAH BLAH BLAH, it could be improved by, BLAH BLAH BLAH, European sword is better in.... BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH." thats literally what people like you hear so you NEVER hear him praise the katana for the strengths it has, so you just assume(or lie) that he thinks its dumb and not good, when that is not the case.
@@danielwesley5051 Well accurately his buddy solve and even that guy knew what hell he unleashed. It's cursed simply because of that bulging pommel whereas I've seen Katanas that have pommels already made by China and Korea from stealing Katanas from pirates with the help of Japan. Although they kept the tsuba there's already a natural bigger tsuba already before but not as long as the cross guard
@@trevtall1094Well great balance does have an amazing effect on handling/agility.
Tyranth: This went horribly wrong
Shad: THIS WENT HORRIBLY RIGHT
I can’t believe you failed to talk about the biggest reason why this is THE PERFECT sword: you can quickly unscrew the pommel and end them rightly!
It has a built in missile weapon for those pesky times you enemy is all the way over there, where you can't reach him to get all stabby.
Skallagrim has entered the chat.
What's more, since it still has the bamboo pins under the wrap, you can end them rightly without fearing about the entire handle falling apart
@@wutmagna7222 Even better!
Are you familiar to me? Have we met on some ancient battlefield?
I like how Shad just loves the sword while Tyranth hates it. I find that so funny
Tyranth is such a boon to this channel. His skillset really allows for a level of experimentation that you just can't find elsewhere.
He feels like that kind of sidekick that will leave the channel to create his own in a few years
@@pimi8522 He has his own channel already.
I agree. I am waiting for the Shadiversity glamor calendar featuring Tyranth oiled and bare to the world, a strategically placed broadsword covering his manhood, little Shad Cherubs polishing the thick long blade.
Oz was a great lad, but Tyranth is a massive upgrade in utility.
I ready this as "Skillet" not skillset
"Middle eastern vibes", Shad gave me EXACTLY the words I needed to explain the impression this sword gave me. It's interesting that when combining elements from two distant cultures, you end up with something that looks a lot like what the cultures geographically between those two produced!
Well you see a curved blade with a crossguard and you think about a tulwar, shamshir or kilij.
The middle east and Japan has a lot of aspects that are similar. For example, they have swords that have a hard to replicate alloys.
Also from what I heard, the tune of Arab music and modern Japanese music is similar.
I definitely couldn't stop thinking "Anubis".
Maybe cause it's in the middle of the east.
"The pommel screws off."
Good to know the katana received the ultimate upgrade. The ability to "end him rightly" is essential. 👍
Just unscrew the pommel and throw it right into someone's skull. Like a true boss.
Or you can hide some matches and fishing string in the hilt.
@@jwillwilliams885the last ronin: R a m b o
For honor reference? W
This needs to be pinned 😂😂
This looks great! I'm going to describe this as an infantry sword in the stories I'm writing, though short enough to be used one-handed meant to be used alongside a medium round shield.
Tyranth: "This is an abomination"
Shad: "The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"
That was exactly what I heard in my head when he said that. 😂
Is it possible to learn such a power?
This is what I imagined the heron marked blade looking like in a Wheel of Time. A fantasy fusion of Eastern and Western swords.
Yes, and very similar to the production model actually made of them.
Something like this can be done with an oval or rectangular tsuba that’s near the width of a cross guard, with or without a pommel.
This is what they will use at the end of the Age of Legends.
This is exactly what Robert Jordan described! That is almost exactly what Lan's blade would look like.
I thought the exact same thing.
11:38 Bro is S tier hype man fr 💯
I love the sheer happiness that Shad has testing out Tyranth's creations - both the falchion and now the katana remakes have been my favorite videos to watch just because Shad acts like a little kid on christmas morning, it's great~
Yes. I’m hoping for more such experiments even if some of them give Tyranth the shivers.
8:00 Tyranth's face is one of a man who is feeling several emotions. Shame, joy, confusion, relief, disgust and maybe even pride all at the same time.
I would love to see a Japanese sword maker’s reaction to this video 😂
That'd be so dope. And they can compare notes too. The insight of a native would for sure give a different view.
I can only imagine the absolute disappointment mixed with some resigned acceptance that it might be better haha! xD
Me too, it'd be priceless!
I'd like to see that samurai that can cut a pellet in half use this sword 😹😹
"Shamufuru Dispuray!"
I see two kids who got the same gift on Christmas, one is the happiest on earth and the other is going through a crisis
You can hear Tyranth's soul leaving his body as he hands his cursed creation to Shad, the praise from Shad only driving his soul further away
Now I want to see them re-hilt a medieval sword on a Japanese guard and handle.
Do that, and make it practical. Yes please.
At that point it might as well be a mitsurugi or a jian.
@@Aodhan_Raith like how this might as well be a scimitar?
So make it useless is what I'm hearing
@@DinnerForkTonguethere’s no way to make it practical. It’s a complete and utter downgrade
Gotta agree with Shad. I love the traditional katana, but this looks amazing.
I feel like either the blade should be longer, or the grip one-handed.
@@TrueForkhmmmmmm so like a 2 handed Falchion(I like to call it KriegsFalchion aka War Falchion)
New D&D character: Tyranth, the deeply conflicted artificer he despises all his creations.
"The craftsmanship is fine, but I didn't feel good about it."😂
Best part is, with the bamboo pins holding the hilt in place, U can #EndHimRightly without the whole thing coming apart after the pommel is unscrewed.
Just watched a video where a katana master used a long sword. Said he liked the pommel for the extra control but didn’t like the cross guard because if interfere with his form.
Seeing shad squealing with excitement like a schoolgirl with the Eurtana (European katana) is just... adorable and honestly, that alone should have made the 'pain' of creating this that Tironph went through worth it.
I understand your nomination, but it sounds like euthanasia. Not good.
Tyranth*
Urethra
Jafalchion a japanese falchion 🗿
@@ardynizunia9709 thnks
Poor Tyranth. Interesting that his edge alignment went to cock because his brain was telling him "katana" whereas Shad simply regarded it as a sword and so kept his edge alignment.
Tyranth is a mad genius, this little experiment and the falchion made from the machete are examples of how brilliant he truly is
As someone who grew up obsessed with Japanese swords, but has come to accept their flaws... I LOVE THIS!!!!! now I want one
I like the functionality of the Scimitana.
It really looks like a shamshir with a handle long enough for two hands! Shamshirs are one of my favorite curved swords, and they don't get discussed enough!
As a katana/kendo enjoyer, this scratches a very particular itch. Wish i could mess around with it and get a feel for the weight.
I remember my fellow kendoka friend used to tell me people hid weights in the handles of their shinai for this exact reason of having more counterbalance and shifting the balance.
Very interesting, he told me whoever did that made those shinai illegal for use in tournaments as well.
Now you guys need to invite a practitioner of the katana to give their thoughts on wielding it
yess plese
As a practitioner myself I can tell you it goes against most of the fundamental ways the katana works. You swing powered from the tanden (core) and you largely let the forward weight pull the blade extending your arms like a pendulum to create a circular motion. THIS is basically a scimitar with a katana blade at this point
@samuelg7340 but could you use it effectively?
On top of the issues with balance another person mentioned above, the big crossguard is going to get in the way and possibly get entangled with opponent's armor/clothing if you try close-range draw cuts. Which are an important part of kenjitsu repertoire.
Overall, this "remake" is... very far from ideal. Because of lack of understanding of the original design choices and the reasons behind them.
Yes, of course you could still use it for kenjitsu. It is just less optimal. It is inferior as a katana and it is inferior as a kriegmesser (because the blade geometry is wrong). Just pick up a proper kriegmesser if you want one.
You need to be very careful with the assumption that you can outsmart years and years of perfecting weapon designs when lives truly depended on them. Most likely, if you think "it is so easy to make this better", it comes from a lack of understanding.
Has something of everything, and yet perfects none. Fitting I can say
This feels like Shad is a 5 year old swinging the cardboard tube from a roll of wrapping paper around, and Tyranth is the dad that knows he's going to be sweeping up bits of broken vase in a few minutes.
If you classify the weapon by its place of origin and time of creation, rather than its geometry and function, then this is clearly a contemporary steel-edged boomerang :D
Bit straight for a boomerang eh?
This is funnier than it should be
@@Inuxxus It probably wouldn't come back to you if you throw it with a spin away from your position, either :D
Shad having so much fun with this sword is hilarious.
Ever gotten a new tool that just does EVERYTIHNG you wanted that tool to do and did it well? That.
His enthusiasm is just so endearing!
Also, love Tyranth's dejection.
It's like Yin and Yang, so spiritual.
especially with Tyranth being so negative about it
So next is a long sword with a tsuba, katana wrap, and no pommel?
I do love the forbidden katana though.
So fundamentally worse in every way? I mean just for the meme they have to. They made one abomination may as well make another.
That sounds cursed and awesome as the same time.
That kinda reminds me of a Chinese saber somehow. It's shaped like one
Lose the tsuba and that’s just a jian
That will just make it worse. Tsuba? Worse than crossguard. No pommel? No counter balance and no Mordhau. No thank you
This is awesome. I love Shad's enthusiasm for this; especially vs the maker's distain for it. Yawl should definitely make more custom weapons
I find that sword beautiful, gorgeous. Combining two cultures into a singular sword. I don't know but I would see that European katana sword as an legendary weapon made in an anime or something.
There is actually an anime where the MC gets both katana and longsword, has to decide which to choose, and just decides "meh" and magically fuses them into one another, creating a kriegsmesser. Pretty cool. Name of the anime is 'Chrome shelled regios'
The look on Tyranth's face when Shad said he liked it is just priceless 😂
Shad's like a kid in a candy store when he drew the blade. This is a whole new sword, we should call it The Tyranth.
We need a Shabbard for the Tyranth.
Just to spite him.
This might be the one time someone doesn't appreciate a new design being named after them. He definitely doesn't want credit(blame?) for this.
Tyranthian Shaddar
I honestly, might genuinely prefer something like this.
I never liked the lack of cross-guard on a Katana.
I have to say i really like the lack of crossguard, it gives it a very elegant look. Very much like the shashka
I think they should angle it a little bit, just smidge, to reduce the optical illusion.
@@delfinenteddyson9865aesthetically I also prefer the disc guard, but if I had to fight with a sword, I'd prefer more hand protection. Not a fan of a cross guard on a katana, wishing they went with something that still gives off katana vibes. Perhaps some extensions to a disc guard?
The guard on a katana was made that way for a reason.
Like a saber hand guard?
So when a katana and longsword love each other very very much...
Combine the best parts of a longsword and katana!? ... ... wait, isn't that just a 2 handed Falchion?
Shut up this is called the heron class sword a fusion of a katana and longsword
@@wolfbane7497no you shut up stinky man
It's a scimitar!
@@realLagMaster a fine schmitmar!
no, it is a kriegsmesser.
When Tyranth said "this sort of content" I heard it as "this sword of content" and now I kind of want to see a dedicated sword build and name it "The Sword of Content", which would probably turn into jokes like "No one is prepared for this Sword of Content!" or "My Sword of Content is better than your Sword of Content!"
You can't force a meme.
@@jollygoodfellow3957it's still rather clever.
Kind of is the Sword of Content as it's just here to cause clickbait rage.
@@andrewli6606Tyranth would say it’s the Sword of Discontent.
lol
Lawyer: "Tyranth, you need to understand that the legal system really does take the abuse of employees seriously; but to help you we need to get a sense of what happened so we can build a case. What did Shad make you do that was clearly so traumatic...?"
Tyranth: **Shivering in the corner, staring a thousand miles into the wall**
Two handed swords should use Odachi blades. No point having a short sword length that requires 2 hands to use
I like this build.
Reminds me of the Chikage katana from Bloodborne; a weapon made by western knights based on their understanding of a "foreign weapon" they once saw but using their own materials, design and assembly methods.
ah, a hoonter i see. I do be loving the Chikage.
@@prinzeugen9588a hoonter must hoont! Leave the hoonting of hoonters to Eileen!
Long was the night, good hunter.
“For the honor, of Cainhurst.”
"Why are these Almonds shooting lasers at me?"
Shads excitement makes me want to see so much more of this sword.
Honestly, this reminds me of the artistic rendering for the heron-marked sword from The Wheel of Time. I always thought it was katana-esque, and this video validates the design.
It’s not an abomination it’s an amalgamation of awesome
Sometimes abominations are a quite beneficial to blades, even in spite of tradition. Can't wait to see what amalgamation you guys will try next!
It is after all how the wide variety of swords came to be. Just some random swordsmith trying something different. If it worked, people liked it and copied it.
@@Erebus.666. Amen !
Halberd + Japanese Spear
That's why innovation beats tradition in warfare, the ability to challenge conventional ideas and replace it with new ones
@@aldovk6681 Tradition is only good as long as it is practical and has good reason to be maintained.
In the Wheel of Time, Robert Jordan already added a crossguard to the Katana and that is what the Heron Marked swords looked like. The wrap was changed to be most european style solid wood, with a leather wrap, or felt wrap. IF you look online you can find hundreds of examples of RJ's swords.
Tyranth: my god, what have I created?
Shad: It's alive! It's ALIVE! ‘Deranged laughter’
I love it, if gunpowder was never invented this is what katakana would evolve into. Fusion of styles to eliminate the original weakness.
The red gambeson with the fur is the cleanest fucking armor I think I’ve ever seen. God damn that is slick.
Edit: Brigandine… sorry I’m a little 🍀
That's actually a brigandine, but yeah, I agree, it looks nice.
t's a brigandine ;)
Yep I would definitely rock that.
I really like it. It feels like a mix of middle eastern swords or a Slavic cutlass like the Polish sabre or the Shashka. It's a delightful vibe
As much as I know this tore at Tyranth's soul, I think it turned out super cool. I had the same ideas when you were building it that the pommel would balance the sword better for one hand.
I always enjoy the mad scientist vs engineer type discussions with these builds 😂
I sincerely hope this weapon makes an appearance in one of Shad's future books.
Honestly this feels like a sort of combination between a scimitar and bastard sword, especially hearing you talk about how easy it is to wield in one hand as well as two hands. Considering the length of the blade overall as well as the handle construction in relation to it, I think this is a really fascinating sword design, and despite how incredibly cursed it is in concept, the finished product turned out very good.
It is always nice to see Tyranth in his element.
Earth element, metalbending?
Or steel furycrafter in Aleran fashion?
@@Grandwigg Smithing.
Congratulations, you have reinvented the scimitar
I think the medieval megapack mod for Blade And Sorcery has something like this in it. Pretty sure they call it the Bastard Saber. Its described as what would happen if a blacksmith from the west got his hands on a blade from the east.
I was gonna say the same thing, funnily enough, one of my favorite swords to use
Probably my favorite katana video you guys have done so far.
Now, it will cut the fabric of Space-Time? Then it's not good enough! Now...break down A Knight's Tale!
The kriegsmesser. Best sword.
yeah, essentially this is a kriegsmesser where the nagel was removed and a pommel was added.
I want one. I really do. The reasons are as you stated, so there's no point to elaborating this time.
Edit: it's not inherently a Scimitar or Katana. It's a modern abomination, and I love it almost as much as you do. Not because I think that it's a perfected Katana (which I don't), but because it's a cultureless hybrid weapon that shouldn't work but does.
"Gotta keep one jump ahead of the breadline,
One swing ahead of the sword!"
Shad is like a kid on Christmas morning and Tyranth is the artist that can only see the flaws in his creation.
Tyranth is Oppenheimer asf
Awesome to see Tyranth in action in the workshop!!! Keep up the good work!!!
Shads reaction is so hilarious!!! Hahaha, love it!!!
Ty should have his own intro. It should be called Craftin' with Tyranth
That’s exactly what I imagined Tam’s sword to look like from Wheel of Time.
Half of you said longsword, half said katana, great what about those of us who love the scottish claymore?
You mean a greatsword, or an ACTUAL claymore, which is a basket-hilted, one-handed sword?
@@thisdude9363 claymore is just anglicised version of claiomh mor literally meaning big sword in Gaelic. its a colloquial term really and what 'big sword' meant would depend on the time period.both the two handed claymore and the basket hilt you mentioned were claoimh mor but at different times.
@@seangreyaren't those contemporary, at least have an overlap? the two handers are mid 16th to early 17th from what I remember, whereas the basket hilted one is early 17th onwards. They did exist side by side for quite a generation or two, from what I remember.
@@leonardomarquesbellini 15th to 17th was the two-hander and the basket hilt was 18th onward.though to be fair there likely was some overlap of use as change never happens neatly.
@@seangrey can't give you a source right now, but I remember some accounts of Scottish mercenaries working for the Swedes during the wars with Poland in the 17th century carrying basket hilted swords. Maybe not the traditional shape that would be used later and possibly not even a true Scottish design, but there you have it. Don't know for sure where I read that or how trustworthy it is, though.
TBF, one of the biggest selling points of the katana is how modular it is, you don't have to be a blacksmith to take the katana apart and swap out the pieces for new ones; so while on one hand this is literally just making a kriegsmesser with extra steps, on the other hand this is also fair play...
Kriegsmesser has a thinner spine profile, a wider flat, a more defined point, tapers more along the spine, typically has a fuller ,and no obvious bevels.
The kriegsmesser will typically have more reach and because of its construction is significantly less rigid and is more flexible. The thrusting should also be better. The slicing and cutting on the kriegsmesser and katana is most likely comparable on soft targets but against armor the katana will probably deliver more blunt force just because it’s more rigid I’d imagine.
The weight distribution is also different on the respective swords in their traditional format but the modified katana here probably handles more similarly to the kriegsmesser.
If you put a heron mark on the blade, you have Rand Al’Thors sword from WoT
It’s hilarious both appreciating Tyranth’s respect for feeling shame about his frankenstein build defaming both the integrity of European and Japanese design… while simultaneously appreciating Shad’s pure unbridled joy from being presented with what he’s stated many times is a dream build he’d love to see.
Watching Tyranth habitually wanting to sheath it and then having whiplash because he can’t is absolutely priceless.
This modified Katana is what I think of when I imagine the "Heron-Marked Sword" from the Robert Jordan books. At least the basic aspect.
Exactly!
My first thought as well. Those straight quilions lend it a bit of Polish saber vibe.
Gorgeous sword. Makes you think why the medieval Japanese never tried to improve on the design on the katana. Has to do with tradition, but after how many cut fingers does practicability outweigh tradition.
This was solid! Even when I was younger and had more of a bias for katanas, I often wondered what it'd be like if somebody put a crossguard on one, but never came across any examples where it was done and didn't have the knowledge or resources to try it myself. I'm not disappointed at all, may not go as far as saying it's an improvement since all sword/weapon styles are good for their intended purpose, but it's absolutely a bad ass evolution.
If you haven't done it already, do a comparison between this and a kriegsmesser. I'd love to see the results!
That's a sick idea and I want to see it happen.
Swordsmanship and the development of an art style are part of why the katana is designed this way. Also it's a sword meant to suit the average adult Japanese male. The handle would be shorter because they typically have smaller hands. They swing with the frame of the skeleton and not just the arm and hips being why the blade is top heavy. You should bring a Japan swordsman and get his take on the modification it would be very educational.
Yes, I feel like with the differences added, any user using traditional technique would have to change/adapt to the newer blade, functionally creating a different swordsmanship style
They have to contact Shogo : he made a video where a katana master tried a broadsword for the first time. His take on this weapon would be very interesting.
@@a.t.o.mworkshop6409 I was thinking this exact same thing. it would be a vary fun and educational Collab video.
I love it when two experts are passionate about two very different view points, because, neither are right or wrong. It is a matter of preference.
This concept is very intriguing to me. I hope you guys continue doing this sort of "let's move pieces from one weapon to another to make a 'better' version" thing, because I was just as wowed as Shad here.
It's a shame the Japanese wrap had to be dismantled in the crafting process. The wrap-style and grip is my favorite part of the katana so I think it would go a long way towards making the abomination look more like a Japanese sword.
Looks like the swords are described in the Wheel of Time. The Heron marked swords from the Age of Legends that sword masters use. I love it and want one.
Ok, here is a few ideas to improve upon it.
1. You can get a reverse blade katana and add the same bits to it. Meaning you would be striking with the back side of the blade which will be sharp instead of the front, if I'm not mistaken, it's like a sickle sword. I mean you might as well go full middle eastern with it since you're already halfway there.
2. So you don't feel weird about adding western parts to an eastern blade, you can use a Chinese cross guard and pommel. The Jian might still feel wierd, but I can see a Dadao working for it. your pommel would be more ring like instead for it, though I'm pretty sure the Dadao doesn't have a detachable pommel, that the ring on the end is supposed to be part of the tang.
3. Maybe a slightly longer blade if the weight being balanced really feels that weird.
I look forward to seeing the future evolution of this fusions sword.
I wish you did videos on diferent types of swords, like rapiers, sabers or smallswords. I would really like to hear your opinions on them, as well as more study dedicated to these swords in general.
issue is that they're getting bad revenue from ads and katana's are the most viral sword.
@@MrSimpsondennis Oh ok. Then I'll wait for better days.
The Nunchuck-Flail episode would be hilarious.
I’d love to see them use a rapier
I’d also like to see them use maybe a Katar or some other obscure and weird weapon
I LOVE Shads excitement and happiness for the new blade
The way the improved katana looks, that can easily qualify as a Heron Mark Sword from The Wheel of Time or even Callandor itself.
I was thinking this!
What you've made is basically a single edge heron marked blade from the Wheel of Time series. A more intricately designed cross guard shaped like a heron with wings spread like those shown in the books would make it perfect.
i would say its basically the worse version of a middle eastern/persian scimitar(not the fat abominations in pop culture that never historically existed). what these scimitars had the advantage was the arching over under or under over thrusts that can go through a parry and one of the reason why sabers are so commonly used for duels (ofcourse European rapiers are also excellent in that regards to duels). second reason is horseback use. this balde is not curved enough to achieve both those functions. it cuts well etc but in a duel with similar skilled the guy with European or a middle easterrn bladewould slaughter this hybrid sword.
This was my thought
Yeah, it is pretty much identical other than the quillons (and the markings of course).
This is like a conversation between a mechanic and an engineer
Interesting premise in general, kind of wish more people would do hybrid sword videos like this. That said, thank you guys for showing how it was done especially, I didn't expect that, but it really helps the whole premise so much more, I think.
The problem isn't really such a thing as a hybrid sword, swords weren't made to fit into strictly defined categories, they were very often individual, handmade items made to suit the buyer, with many of the factors adjusting from individual sword to individual sword and evolving over time, also almost anything you can think of has been done before. This is pretty much just a relatively short kriegsmesser.
@@coopercummings8370 It is a hybrid sword. A katana is pretty strictly defined. Longswords also have a modern definition even if less strict. Has a sword like this existed in antiquity? Yes, but it wasn't a katana blade with a European hilt.
The amount of porosity in those welds on the pommel hurts my soul
Shad: You have earned awesome friends. I’m happy for all of you.
Basket hilted Katana. Basket hilted axe. Basket hilted EVERYTHING!!!!!
I whish you ad combined both the round guard and the cross guard for this sword it would have looked Dope.
That sword is insane. Props to Tyranth for making such a beastly abomination.
The most interesting thing for me is how Shad look more fluid with this sword than normal catana, where Tyrant looks by similar amount less fluid than normal with it.
Fun fact: Tyranth’s hidden talent is not his strength, but rather his incredible speed! None of that footage was sped up!
Kult of Athena used to carry a sword in the fantasy section called "The Heron Mark Blade" It was basically what you guys just did. It was obviously an attempt to make Rand's Sword from the Wheel of Time while dodging the copywrite.