Warren DeMartini on Jake E. Lee, "Round and Round," Robbin Crosby, Stephen Pearcy, Beau Hill
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2023
- The full in bloom Flashback - Interviews with RATT's Warren DeMartini, Stephen Pearcy, Robbin Crosby, & producer Beau Hill.
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The creation of RATT's Round and Round.
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DiMartini was in my top three favs with Lynch and Van Halen back in the 80s.
I still listen to that stuff. 👍
Randy Rhoads and DiMartini. Ratt was more of the party band version of Randy Rhoads. Then Jake came next, only I never liked Jake's guitar tone. Those Charvel guitars he plays are small guitars, and the fret boards are scaled down to a smaller size. Everyone used to freak out over Jake's stretch.
The first time I played one of those Charvels, I was like, OK, he does have fingers that can stretch, but that smaller fret board is part of it.
The other thing I noticed was how thin and tinny those guitars sounded because the body was so small and made from very light wood.
Even those Jackson Randy Rhoads guitars are thin and tinny sounding. Cool looking guitars, a work of art, but it's sound doesn't have any real teeth.
The knockoffs of that guitar sound better. ...cheers!!
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Hell yeah! Lynch still rocks today! He’s still to this day my favorite guitar player.
Rhoads better than all three.
Cool comment. I think all 3 of those guys were super self-critical about tone which came from hands, and had some real fire in their playing.
It was a good time for guitar, yes!
yup same and JEL was fourth
I'm 55 so I was the perfect age when all these bands came out. I love Randy of course but Jake is my favorite Ozzy guitarist and Bark at the Moon is my favorite album. In 1984 my best friend just got his licence and his mom bought him a '76 Camaro. He picked me up and I went on my first cruise and the first cassette he blasted was Out Of The Cellar. That album just came out and it was the first time I heard it. That was one of the coolest moments of my life. Every time I hear any Ratt song I think of that ride.
Great story. Great time to be young. I’m 55. I had a new 84 Honda Prelude with the loudest stereo in my small town. Girls with big hair loved to ride with me and listen to Ratt, VH, Ozzy, Dokken, etc
@@mvb819 NICE!
Cool story 👍I’m 54 and so glad I grew up in the 80’s it was the best of times . No social media no hyper connectivity things were simple and not all the pressure like things are now . People seemed closer and more real . Greatest music all that LA metal scene music , the chicks were so hot and classy , the styles were the best . Also when I go to a concert these days it doesn’t seem the same as it did in the 80’s . I miss listening to 94 WHJY Providence for all my rock and metal music and waiting to see who was coming to the Providence Civic Center and when the tickets were going on sale and me and my friends would get to the Civic Center like at 6a.m and wait in line to score good seats for Van Halen, Ozzy , RATT , Judas Priest the list goes on . That was so much more authentic and fun . All the concert flyers all over the city . There was nothing like it those times were the best 🤘
@@seangagnonProvidenceR.I. I went to a concert a few years ago and all you saw was everyone in the crowd holding up their cell phones to record it. I was like damn, they aren't even really watching the band. It would suck to be on stage and just see hundreds of phones pointed at you. I wish I could go back to the 80's and stay there forever. The country is totally unrecognizable today.
My radio station was Q102 Texas Best Rock in DFW and they're long gone.
I am with you regarding Jake. My favorite Ozzy guitarist…Love Randy but Jake was the guitarist in Ozzy when I began playing guitar so I have always gravitated to Jake.
I saw RATT open for Ozzy @ Bark at the Moon Tour. Ratt was on Fire. And Jake E Lee was INCREDIBLE !!!! Great Show.
I saw Mötley Crüe open for Ozzy on the same tour in 84
They were all on fire back then
Good times!
2:55 woah
I can remember listening over and over to “lay it down”, especially before I learned how to play it. The sound of his guitar, the crunch of the distortion, it to this day is one of my all time favorite guitar intros of that genre of music.
Oh yea! The first 4 beats of the riff are major then on the up beat before the 5th beat hits minor 3rd...gives it that feel. And then like you said, the sound, glass lightning, silversonic!
funny DeMartini lived and jammed with Jake E. Lee who went on to play for Ozzy, while DeMartini also helped George Lynch learn Ozzy's songs to audition for that same gig
Jake was also a previous member of Ratt
@@alexzoris7216Jake recommended Warren to replace him in Ratt
George Lynch joined Ratt after Ozzy before rejoining Dokken too .
This was a glorious time for all of us involved in music at whatever point in our lives 1982-1987 at the peak----incredible. I will always be blessed for this time period. We were so lucky guys----- great post , thank you
The absolute best time to be young
I was performing in bands then, it was magical.
I was a RATT fan as soon as I saw the Round and Round video. Walked down to Tower Records and bought the album. Warren blew me away. I was just starting out on guitar. The small guitar shop in Chula Vista CA where my dad bought me my first electric guitar was me and my friends hangout. I'll never forget the day I walked in and Warren himself was sitting in there signing autographs. Great guy and one of the most killer guitarists of the 80s
RATT really started rolling in 84 when I was 16 in highschool, still one of my favorite bands of all time. WARREN is a guitar god, absolute legend. He will go down in history someday as one of the best to ever play. LEGEND.
I still like the EP better than anything else they ever put out. I love the rawness of it.
It was HEAVY! A band headed for great things! Played the hell out of it! Sweet Cheater!
The EP and the first two Ratt studio albums are amazingly defining in my opinion. They had good records in the later era too and Infestation (2010) fits easily between Cellar and Invasion - I'm sorry that this line-up broke up later - but what they did in the early-mid 80s is something fantastic. That sound and those songs make them one of the top bands of the 80s. And it was a team effort because there were four songwriters in the band: Robbin, Warren, Juan and Stephen. I would add that without Robbin, Ratt wouldn't have been what it is, a lot of people still miss him.
Filling in that gap was a genius move. Beau was fantastic on those RATT albums and definitely worked wonders with Stephen Pearcy . My favorite band from that era RATT .
What I appreciate about Stephan Pearcy is that he does not shy away from the fact that he cannot sing well, and that Beau Hill knows how to make him sound good on record. I don't dislike Pearcy's vocals. I appreciate his modesty what every member of Ratt brings to the sound of the band. Ratt is the sum of their parts (players/musicians), which is why Ratt cannot sound the same after Robbin's passing in 2002.
@@DWyn-xq4yf Pearcy sounds great in the studio those first few albums are among my favorites . And you’re absolutely right without Robbin it’s not same he was a riff master and imo the backbone of RATT in the early days before he fell on hard times .
@@sunjester8254 Good genius whatever .Was “genius” though .
@@sunjester8254 Btw have you ever been out with one of your buds and they do something you say man that was genius ? Relax sun jester .
Mine too! Badlands and LynchMob right behind em
Every person involved seems somewhat convinced that they are the reason that Round and Round was a hit. The guitar player who started it, the other guitar player who added to it, the singer who wrote to it, but especially the engineer who mixed it. Maybe not Warren, he seems pretty humble and eager to give everyone credit for their part in it. In reality the whole combination, the whole collaboration, the co-writing, the song, the performances the production is what made it great.
To me, the producers back then had a lot to do with the completion and success of the songs. That is why todays albums and songs, from those same bands or newer ones, lack certain something. Good ideas but they "produced" them themselves.
It's collaborative if the band isn't breaking up like Pink afloyd and Final Cut ... Haha
I added to it as well. I did that 'just give it time' line that comes in at the end of the song. No one knew about it either. I came in after everyone had gone home and I did it then I went into a coma, woke up, and read your comment and now here I am answering it all those years later. Rock N' Roll 4 ever!
Warren was one of the better guitarists to watch live from that time.I remember he threw in this part of a solo that was all extremely fast harmonics that was not on the record and I'm not sure if the audience even picked up on it.
George Lynch?
What a great scene and a great time... De Martini, Lynch, Jake, EVH, Holmes...
Thanks again
1984, 13 years old. Absolutely loved that album and at 6'4 I really liked Robbin being tall. I could imagine that being me playing guitar as their are not many tall rock stars. R.I.P King. Your music will live forever.
man I just miss those days.....soo soo much...
RATT riffs were stand out.
The most relevant memory I have of RATT was during high school listening to an Out of the Cellar tape cassette on a Sony Walkman while jogging the neighborhood every evening. Round and round I went from there on out.
In 1984 when that album came out, I was 14. I remember seeing the video for Round and Round on MTV and couldn’t get to Camelot Music fast enough.
I bought the cassette because I had a Sony Walkman that was welded on my hip. I wore that tape out that Summer listening to it while mowing lawns.
It was such a great album and one of the major influences that made me a metal fan for life.
I’m 53 years old now and still listen to as much 80’s metal as I can.🤘
Oh man, I am 50 and you just blew my mind by mentioning Camelot Music!!!! Oh man, how much grass got mowed in order for kids like me to obtain the new “fill in the blanks”. I managed to get my mother to let me do the 12 tapes for a penny thing they always had in the TV guide once and I thought they would NEVER arrive. I got us stuck into having to spend so much money in next year as part of the deal but i didn’t care. I make it happen!! I miss those days. Just staring at my pristine cassette collection and seeing reorganizing them, leaving open spots for the ones I still hadn’t purchased. Man, thanks for this 10 minutes of nostalgia I just enjoyed while sitting on the toilet. 😂🤘🏻
the reason Round and Round was a hit , is because its a catchy song with a catchy chorus , not because he did that at the stop
And the vocals come in during that stop anyway, they are present in that gap. The reverse echo leads the vocals by only an eight note as I recall. It's a cool addition, but doesn't "fill" that gap.
Probably more notable for the overall sound is the reverse echo throughout all of the choruses.
Hearin this on the way to work and it made my DAY! You rock Bloom💯🎸🇺🇸
from what I've heard Demartini is now retired from the music business and I don't blame him. it's just not what it once was. he was one helluva guitar player and I'm sure he still is. It's just silly how Stephen Pearcy, recruits some unknown bums , and plays at fairs or other places lol. Warren demartini; Crosby; Crouiser and blotzer were RATT
If you think about it Stephen Pearcy and most 80's rockers were all or nothing guys, they don't really have any skills, they went into music straight from High School ages. Some continue chugging along and others have taken their lives when reality hit.
@@tonyponchopeters good read. For every guy you see in the spotlight there are a million that didn't make it and work a low end job.
@@tonyponchopeters was that done by design?
@@richie2237 Do you have to sell your soul to not be a one hit wonder? Let's ask gene Simmons and his tribe. Slip of the tongue,
Disagree. Pearcy still out there making records. Need someone to make rock. Many respectable songs. At least he's trying. Another reason why Lynch is my favorite he still puts out unbelievably creative albums. Ridiculous that DeMartini with that talent hasn't done anything in decades.
Great Album!
Saw them on Dancing Undercover tour....Poison opener....
Same here, that was a jammin' concert
Best era, what a time....!! Those that were there know...
Warren, lynch, I was into Cinderella too
I just recently got the ratt box set and have been enjoying it but they have always been in my day to day playlist at work 😎👌 me and my girlfriend would drive in her 280z and listen to out of the cellar in high school(this was in the 90's though...always loved the 80's as a kid but when I got into music and played in a band it was 89-90) guns n roses, metallica, skid row, fire house, king's x, fight, pantera, ozzy, ratt, to name a few and later iron maiden, helloween, and everything else
This is great, the interviews with Beau are fantastic as well. RATT was definitely my favorite from that time period 🐀🔥☠
Warren was, still is, a greatly underrated guitarist. His solos were always BLAZING, and so clean. He was my favorite "hair band" guitarist, and there were a lot good ones - a couple others mentioned here.
Ugggh. I thought it was gonna be you interveiwing him personally.
No blood no foul tho. Its a great channel and i love all your content anyway.
Cheers and keep it 100!
Send him my way. I'm ready...I don't even need to prep.
5 million bucks in sales revenues in just two months. Probably next to impossible today, regardless of genre. That back echo thing Beau Hill came up with was indeed catchy. So was the full stop the band insisted on. Shows what great talents can come up with.
Pregnant musical pause, sometimes it's effective in the way it might break from traditional expectations
Saw them with my 8.5 month pregnant wife. The baby tossed and turned from the incredible bass. Huge fight in the hallway as I walked her around to get away from the deafening noise. I had to elbow some poor kids up side the head, that started pressing us against the outside glass of the colliseum. He's 35 yrs old today.
I loved this album and the following one as well. This band had a lot of hits for that era. It's a shame things are the way they are now. Ratt was a killer band live too.
Can't deny the songwriting chops in that band-at that time-even Burt Bacharach or Elvis Costello would find it remarkable& apparently they recorded raw demos on boombox's/ghettoblasters like Wall Of Voodoo did:)
It works.
I did it with my buddy Andy in the Midwest...we were into Ratt, NIN early shit, Juno Reactor, ect....
Ghetto blasters gave a great raw sound which we added guitars, radio bits, and keyboards....
Great days...
The producer was, in the end, correct. Music is subjective, true, but that full stop is just too... kindergarten. It's too simple and worn out, really. Too obvious. Beau knew that and let's face it, the song would have still been a hit BUT he did improve it by filling that empty space with SOMETHING and using the reverse reverb effect was very cool. It ended up being a very memorable part of the song where otherwise, it would be just another break w/o any music. Anyone could do that. The other alt is to do some lick in there on guitar or just bass or just drums. A desceding badass guitar lick just under the "round and round" part and starting B4 the words would have worked, too. A lick that starts on the down beat of the break, continues ALL the way to the downbeat of the chorus, ending on the E note, possibly low E or one above that. Lots of options.
Robbin was such a gentleman. Imagine an alpha guitarist recognizing what they're playing isn't gelling and offers to step aside.
Just listening and watching RATT n Roll the other day, they knew how to do excellent videos as well.... A major Hard Rock player in a key moment in History
Very interesting, well done
I loved “You Think You’re Tough” from the EP and found “Round & Round” too poppy. But I’m happy it got them in heavy rotation, leading to label support and a second great album.
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Great to seeing Ratt finally getting the credit they deserve. I remember older kids guilting me in the late 80s and 90s that Ratt was "glam rock".
30 years later and it is still fresh and rocking whereas other bands didnt hold up as well. Way Cool Jr, Round and Round, Wanted Man and especially Nobody Rides for Free which brought them back in the 90s so hold up.. Rocking
Full in Bloom, where everything old is new again.
Once Robin "King" Crosby passed on, it's a shame they didn't get Jake E. Lee back in the fold. His tenure with Ozzy and Badlands were already done, and it was well before he started the Red Dragon Cartel, which had a promising start, but didn't really go that far... Not to say Carlos Cavazo wasn't great, but it's a shame to only see and hear Carlos do RATT tunes, and not his own epic material from Quiet Riot...
I'd like to hear the original Round and Round without that little detail that Beau added in. I bet it totally changes the feel of the song and turned it from a good song into a smash hit.
I would have love to see "Ratt" "Poison" concert.!! 🎸
I'm trying to remember exactly when that song first reached us (me and my friends) but we were 12 years old and I'm pretty sure it was May '84 when we first heard it. We have the end of the school year coming up, we.all just got new BMX bikes, the weather was getting very nice, and we have this new song with so much energy we can't get out of our heads! And the summer of 84 coming up! 84 was the year of the Ratt!
Demartini and lee should move back in together , may get their careers back
This kinda came after Quiet Riot and such..but these guys were playing festivals with the Cars, Tom Petty, Stray Cats, Berlin...it was weird to see them on a festival gig considering they were cock rock. Impressive that Warren helped George Lynch helped figure out Randy's parts while audition for Ozzy while Jake go the gig. Good stuff and great stories.
The 80's rocked!
We were discussing Ratt at the Whiskey Friday night and everyone agreed these guys need to get past their differences and reunite if they ever wanna make decent money again! Touring is really the only option for them at this point.
Lack of Communication was the riff that made me appreciate Ratt as a band with good , or at least creative guitar players. I appreciate creativity over fancy chops
Part of the soundtrack of my life. Such a wonderful time for music. This album still gets regular airplay in my house. Not a bad song on it.
I bought albums Rough Cutt & Badlands wearing down those vinyl discs seriously all the time! Loved Jake’s style! But Demartini was one that a similar style to Jake’s! He has a very cool style hisself! I had all the Ratt albums up through Invasion of Privacy.
I wish Beau went to help record Van Halen or Ozzy material, would be interesting to hear his ideas on it.
Ratt was my favorite band in the 80's. I saw them live on the Invasion tour, the Dancing Undercover tour and again on the Reach for the Sky tour. The only band (I saw almost all the 80s hair metal bands at least once) I ever saw live that many times. Incredible talent and even better stage shows. Still love them today. 👍🏻
Saw Ratt, Great White and Kix at Verizon Amphitheater in Birmingham Alabama, Ratt absolutely rocked. Oddly, I have memory of seeing a guy get pummeled by 10 guys "up" the steps of the first level and to this day I don't think he survived, it looked like a cartoon brawl. I also (on the 15 row) saw Robin Crosby and a roadie at the front corner while girl's clawed their way to the front Robin was pointing out the girl's pulled backstage for the after party. 🧨🧨🧨
It wasn't mentioned but the pre-chorus guitar rif is just like Van Halen's Panama who came out that same year
Does a version exist with that cold start to the chorus?
Freaking awesomeness
It was Beau's idea for the voice reverb in for the break, he felt the song should not stop. A great solution.
Yet Ratt initially did not trust Hill, they thought he was sandbagging the session and taking too much time and making money off of the extra hours as overtime pay. Words were exchanged to where Hill stated to the band he was a flat fee employee and not trying to make money more at the expense of the band. Hill should be considered the 6th member of the band.
Beau even did backing vocals !
@@seangagnonProvidenceR.I. If I remember right he may have filled in for some bass and guitar parts too. A great producer who does not get enough credit.
@@ericscottstevens I’m not sure if he played any instruments but it wouldn’t surprise . I agree Beau was great and was the right producer for RATT. Worked wonders with Stephen Pearcy .
Beau's idea was good, but I can't agree it's the hook that sold the song.
I want to go to Ratt Mansion West, send me back.
The EP is the best Ratt. I wish they would have kept that heavier street vibe. Producers believe they are the reason the songs become hits, in some cases, but it's the bands
I still has 2 copies of Out of Celler album!
Compared to other bands of the time Ratt was a low grade band for me, but now I wish they be playing. They be on top of the world.
"It took off like a rat on fire". No pun intended?
I think you meant "Late 1982", not 1992. Out of the Cellar came out in '84.
I never really cared for hair bands, but some of those 80s guitarist had good riffs😂
Ohhhh that video! Must have seen it a thousand times at 2 or 3 in the morning on MTV's Headbangers Ball. Hair metal was awesome in the 80s, so many hot shot guitarists. Saw Ratt backing up the Crue in Boston way back when. Ratt kicked ass, the Crue were falling-down drunk and drugged out of their minds.
I liked Ratt.
Misquote @:22 “in late 1992” he came up with the chorus and riff for Round and Round. Wrong maybe late 1982.
He says 1982.
@@mg-ThisHandleIsSoStupid ok it sounded like 92 over my iphone speaker.
@@kevins.3825 All good.
After listening to several Beau Hill interviews, I’m convinced he takes maybe a little too much credit for the artist’s creation. I mean sure he got rid of the pause between the round and round in the song to strengthen it a bit. But, that didn’t make this song. I would go with Warren and Stephen’s take on it.
I always liked Ratt more than Crue. More mature lyrically and musically. Also, on side note, Mick Mars' riffage is the sound that carried Motley Crue. They were lucky to have had him, sad it ended so ugly.
0:46 Try cranberry juice.
😂🤣
I have always claimed that the greatest guitar solo (duo?) is the Round n Round solo.
I can't believe Lay It Down didn't chart better than Round and Round.
Could have been due to whatever competition was in the rock and Top 40 charts at the time that affected it. I think Lay It Down is one of the best rock songs of the 1980s.
@@chriscampbell9191 That all makes sense and the MTV video of Round and Round definitely helped .
@@chriscampbell9191 That's true. I guess I just remember Lay It Down having more play, but I guess not.
"The big hook that sold the song"
Beau Hill has megalomania
There is no pause except before the last chorus. Its Robbins cowboy chords in the prechorus.
Could you imagine being a fly on the wall while those two guys were jamming..
I could never get into RATT because of Stephen Pearcy as a singer, not my jam baby… yet an excellent band.
Nothing will ever beat the Party that was LA in the 80's !
What about George Lynch?
What space is Beau Hill talking about?
Like what thing "made the whole song" as he says ....
I like Way Cool Jr. better.
Urine trouble
I always like Ratt's follow up album, Invasion Of Your Privacy, much better..every song on that album was good..Out Of the Cellar was o.k., but the songs on it were too simplistic and repetitive for my taste..especially the riffs and lyrics....
Beau Hill is always his biggest fan. Ratt would have killed it with or without you. Be grateful not some idiot that thinks he was a creator.
Round and round is the song I'd listen to last from ratt.. In my opinion there are so many better songs than that one.. The freaking radio won't play anything else but RnR..
It’s down the list for me as well so many better songs . Body Talk , Morning After and Lay it Down are my favorite three and all three are much better than around and around imo .
lies different story
I feel so honored being the 666'th like
nothing is more despicable than men doing duck lips at a camera
Urine Trouble
There was a better original video on MTV- which you cannot find today -- replaced for all posterity by the weaker milton berle thing -- politics, right?
I worked security at the Ratt/Poison concert back in the 80s.
They were both terrible.
Stating they were both terrible without anything else to back up your claim isn't validating and comes across very troll-like
One hit is better than none. 🐀
RATT N ROLL
Beau Hill is the sole reason Stephen Pearcy didn't have a career in the custodial arts.