Following Up On : How Bad Is Turbo Yeast . . . . .Really?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- The last video I put out "How Bad Is Turbo Yeast . . . . .Really?" had a lot of interesting comments I thought deserved a follow up video. Here we go . . . .
How Bad Is Turbo Yeast . . . . .Really?:
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Loved your last comment, "Meh, we don't need you here anyway man." Well said, Jesse. Sometimes people in the home distilling world get very heated and it's uncalled for. In contrast, home beer brewers tend to be very supportive and less guarded when it comes to sharing their secrets sauce. Let's all be respectful to one another, drink some spirits, and share ideas with one another.
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It's fantastic that you are creating so much quality content so often. Love it. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
Thanks for introducing me to the iSpindel... yee-hah
Totally Agree, it's all about the ART. We all use the same paints and brushes we just paint different pictures. Love the craft. I tend to listen and learn and share my knowledge.
Yeah bro great ispindel video! This hobby make share love and knowledge.
Great video, Thank you for the re-visit. I really like how our comunity can express different views respectfully and share all our experiences. You make my Craft experience all the more better.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with the t500:-)
Agree do a normal wash and see what it does and try their copper dome and do a real comparison it’s a easy process to do so let’s see how it can go
Agreed! T500 was my first still, great starter one that would be used by someone who might use turbo. I thought that was a way better idea than using an OP still by comparison
@@skeettoclawforte5586 what is an upgrade from the T500 for whiskey?
I can not describe how professional and informative you are as a content creator! Very refreshing, subbed.
Great video, you have a highly reputable platform here. Keep it coming bro.
Appreciate it! And will do ;)
It's been awesome to see it grow!
Your test sample of two was priceless. Your reation and questions on what was liked made smile.
Another great video Jesse! There are so many different taste's one can achieve with the same mix, no one should be criticizing your pick of reasons for doing what you do. We respect you standing up for yourself! Keep up the great Chase!
This has been a really interesting couple of vids. I'm a pretty experienced home brewer of beer and work in a LHBS that sells turbo yeast and T500s. Your comments make 100% sense to me and mirrors what I've often thought. Keep up the good work!
First off let me just say that I’m a huge fan of your channel. I’ve been practicing this craft for a couple years now and personally enjoy using alcotec turbo 200 yeast. I’m working on expanding my yeast usage and also my fermentation’s. Keep the videos coming. They have certainly kept me entertained while quarantining with this case of covid I have. Keep chasing the craft!
Jesse...... your passion is infectious, can't get enough my man, f n love it
Loved the last video. Even liked this one as you summarised everything after you absorbed your results from the turbo test.
I'm fermenting my first tpw (even though i added yeast nutrient) but now I'm not afraid to throw down a turbo if i want to try it.
Keep doing you👍
I have a tonne of respect for you Jesse, you are one of few, who can put things into perspective from all sides, and not take it personally, it is extremely good to possess that character. Love your channel, I will support you on pateron ASAP.
Another great video. Never apologize for expressing your opinion or tastes. Keep them coming brother.
I'd love to see a video comparing the unfiltered unclarified version of the turbo with a version that's clarified and filtered according to the instructions.
Amen...... we use it ....one packet in a 40 gallon wash......10 days later we clear....filter and then send it to the still.....and I dare you to tell the difference between Turbo and Daddy in the end product
I'm a new distiller,in the us and I've learned more and more guidance from you Jesse than I've found anywhere else. Thanks to that,I've nothing but great great results.
Good video, well considered and good on you for holding your hands up regarding your preconceived judgement on it. I'm going to try it when I start because as you say, it's guaranteed to work. It'll get me going without worrying about the first step. 👍
Thanks for sharing. I’ve been using the T500 for some time with the copper alembic dome and condenser and a variable transformer to control boiler temp and managed to make some tasty grain whiskeys. Love your channel. And George at Barley and Hops. And Bearded and Bored. You guys rock!
I started learning about stilling in October. I’ve seen a few other guys in my UA-cam rabbit hole and you have answered any questions I’ve had either in reply or a video. It seems to me this hobby is a matter of preference no matter how you look at it. So I think you handled it diplomatically. I’ve seen things you do for flavors that my may not like but that’s ok. If everyone had the same taste there’d be no variety. I say keep up the good work and thank you for my education. You seem like a cool dude to me.
I really appreciate your honesty. It's your unashamed opinion that I love. Please don't change a thing.
Appreciate your honesty! YAY for an honest dude!
I'm grateful that you did the video. I've already started a fresh wash with a different yeast and look forward to comparing it to my turbo vodka. Cheers.
I switched from the Turbo yeast that I used for the first few runs and now use Dady and Dap. Let’s me adjust the amounts used by batch size without over pitching. Product seems much better IMO. Thanks Jesse for keeping it real. Cheers buddy ! 🥃
Another great video. Thanks again for your work and thank you for sharing. keep it up man.
I don't even distill and I'm new to all of this but that last video was pure confirmation bias. You set out with a conclusion already in mind and tried to find evidence to support it. Pure motivated reasoning. I like the channel a lot though so it was cool to see a follow up.
It's not reasonable to expect Jesse to set up a double blind or have biases. It definitely wasn't conclusive, but it does show us that turbo yeast could potentially produce rougher flavors than many alternatives.
@@raidengoat sure, you're not wrong. But he could have done one experiment like he did, so he could find whatever flavors the turbo contributes, then done their recommended method and at least compared the cost / time / process/ end results to determine if it's worth ever using.
@@GuernB2 That makes sense and I agree.
If the stuff worked everyone would be using it but that's not the case .
Maybe start distilling yourself before you make such assumptions
Another good video Jesse. As you say, it's about making what you want the way you like it. A suggestion for future videos is to dive into the effects of yeasts on flavor. I plan on starting my first UJSSM in the near future and am planning to use Safbrew T-58 as I want a yeast that should theoretically add some interesting flavor to the recipe. Not to bash turbo (I've never used it) but what's the point of a fast yeast if you go through added steps to clean up after fermenting and make multiple distillations. Just start with a recipe that will yield a good clean ferment, leave it be for one or two weeks and keep life simple.
Hey Jesse, please do a full turbo kit run & then you can make another statement on the taste differences, for me, I started with the Pure Distilling system, the first 2 runs made me fall in love with the craft & I used the Pure Distilling yeast kit for that, then my supplier that I travel 230km return to could not get the yeast kit ( by that I mean the same as the Classic * Turbo packs) just there brand, so I had to try the Classic 8 Pack run in the Pure Distilling system, & I somehow liked the end product better, our local Foodworks started to stock it so got it from there, then I had a fall couldn't drive for 8 weeks & they ran out of the Classic 8 no one could get any, the suppliers where out, so had to use the Classic 6 for 4 runs, had problems with that the taste was not bad, but not the same, now we are lucky they have been able to get stock so back to the Classic 8.
I am looking at making maybe a plate collum to take me to the next level, so for me, I see the Turbo 500 & the Pure Distilling setups as a good way for a new person to stick the toe in & see if the craft is for them at a price that is not way out there.
Keep up the good work Jesse, cheers from OZ
Really keen to see what mods you do with the t500. Cool video man because of you I have tried some funky stuff not as funky as bearded but one day hopefully will follow his adventurous things.
Keep up the great content and don't stress. Have a homebrew!
Some honest information there mate that's what I like about this channel so keep up the good work 👍
looking forward to learning more about what you do with the 500
Looking forward to more t500 vids mate,ive been using it for 2 years,made some great spirits,especially gin with the kit,take care
Confirmed: I am now receiving secret messages from your epic beard.
You do your coding in bash or you bash coding?
"If your dad doesn't have a beard you've got two mum's."
Perfect ending to the video. A very “south of the equator” answer to critics! 3” stainless CCVM keg build with 3” shotgun is getting vinegered soon and it wouldn’t have happened without your vids. A few 50l washes of Turbo after the cleaning, sure, but I have a 200l blue ex-vinegar barrel for TSFFV just waiting for proof of concept thanks to your vids Jessie. Rock on!
Nothing says you can't repeat the experiment with the full turbo procedure. In a way, that would allow you to also give us an informed opinion on whether the added steps help.
Nothing says people can't take the information from this video and run their own experiments, it's just turbo yeast and a sugar wash, fairly quick and inexpensive experiment.
@@markellis7961 people are doing it the right way thats the point
And doing a double blind A/B/X taste test wouldn't hoit, either!
Great channel, good job!
Good on you Jess.
I enjoy all of your vid's.
Keep the good work up.
Nice honest video. It really is what we want as opposed to what is 'correct'. Coming from the brewing world, which is the wash world in effect, I appreciate the like of difference in the end product that fermentation temp makes with the same yeast, same recipe. Same recipe, different yeast, different end product. And so on - endless variables. As we gain experience we learn what we like and what we don't. We learn where we concentrate our efforts and where we're not really interested.
For instance, I run a T500 at just above 55C on the water outlet. If a sugar wash with a 'turbo yeast' it's normally the vodka star style. Whichever one it is it will be fermented at a low temperature (got cooled fermentor for brewing) to prevent too many esters etc. The wash will be cleared - why burst all those yeast cells and run nutrient and dead yeast through the still. Don't use carbon as this may take out the taste but doesn't remove what produces it. When distiling I only redistill mids together. And so on.
Oddly, I'm not a spirit drinker except with mixers and making the likes of sloe gin and also white rum to keep the neighbor happy. I find that a turbo yeast (cleared and fermented low) , first run mid mixed with the Still Spirit white rum essence produces a great white rum, that once mixed with coke keeps any Bacardi and coke fan happy. Why piss around trying to perfect the Bacardi flavour? A double distilled mid tastes almost exactly like Grey Goose vodka. Like your wife, most people seem to like a bit of sweetness to their vodka. My reference is Absolut. I once mixed a triple distilled turbo with a sachet of west coast whiskey essence and gave it to a west coast fan and she thought it wonderful. No point in making super high grade gin for the likes of sloe gin as its stuffed with sugar and sloes - which is true for a lot of liqueurs. And so on. It's horses for courses.
Back in my brewing world we have THT. (That Homebrew Taste). Assuming that it's not some shitty cheapo kit, (there are some really good kits these days if that's your thing), the THT is normally a result of someone without experience chucking a load of sugar into the ferment or too high a ferment temp, not getting rid of the chlorine etc. They simply don't know on which areas to concentrate their efforts - brewing is a very forgiving process but we need to know which areas aren't so forgiving, so where to concentrate on getting within parameters. Usually very simple tweaks to produce exponentially better beer. Past this we get into the multi hop world, wet yeasts, bla bla. I think this is where your video on turbo yeast loses some of us. There's a big difference on pragmatic acceptance of the perfectly acceptable relative to effort and subjective perfectionism.
As always Awesome video. Thanks for the clarification. Cheers.
Looking forward to your T500 tips and mods . 🍻
Good point on the reasoning for the amount of stuff in the package.
My current waiting to process batch was 2 buckets with half the pounch in each. Fermented at lower ambient temp and took about a week.
I recon the temp wasnt the issue as thats about how long it took in similar conditions with a full pouch as well.
I will also say, I'm a super fan. I think you're spreading the word and doing good.
Please do some videos on how to improve the T500 and some recipes. I have the alembic dome and have made some rums and whiskey's but am stumbling around trying to learn. I look forward to some guidance. Not everyone can afford spend thousands of dollars to get better equipment. Keep up the great videos!!!
Turbo is incredibly durable - both cold and hot. Botanicals override any yeast flavors. Alcohol conversion is very good.
God for gins and maceration, then?
As always I enjoy your videos. I think the turbo yeast and distiller are so quick and easy to actually make something. It may not be the best but in the beginning to a new distiller it's wonderful. The reason is you made it yourself. I think cutting back on the pitch of turbo yeast May cutback on the bad flavors. So what you have to wait an extra day or two. Patience comes with experience. I'm still in patient LOL
Have been using TUBO Yeast for a year now and found that there was to many unwanted flavors. now just using bakers yeast is a little more neutral flavor in TPW - Great video, you have a highly inform able - Great work Mr STILL IT.
Hey Jesse. Just found your channel by chance the other day and listen to it going yo work. I'm a novice using the t500, but love listening to your vids. The taste of the yeast you talk about is there, but does slightly disappear with carbon filtering, does actually fade away after a couple of months. I've found for myself, the t500 is user friendly time wise. But if I had more time I definitely use both methods. To me me they both have their place, and I'm hanging with anticipation for the mods you can do. Don't let the haters bother you!
I bought a t500 in May, and I've done several runs of vodka using the classic 8 turbo yeast. My whole family enjoys it, but I am looking to reduce costs, as I'm using the dextrose sugar which is expensive. I'm going to try a regular sugar wash once I'm out of dextrose. I look forward to seeing your content on this still in the future.. I'd love to try a new recipe should you put one out. CHEERS!
Love your passion. Great comment at the end to tell the haters to kick rocks. No place for that here.
G'day Jessie. Long time watcher, first time commenter. I use turbo but interested is trying something better. Would be great to see a video showing an alternative wash process. Start to finish
Hi Jesse.
I've been chasing the craft for a number of years and have had great success with a modified version of the T500.It can work well in both pot still and reflux mode
I started off using turbo yeast in its various guises but couldn't stand the taste of the finished product. Now reverted to DADY
Really enjoy the channel from here in the UK. Keep up the good work
Maybe do an additional test and pitch at half rate, then ferment at the the low end of the temperature range? Also might try it on raw or inverted sugar just for an interesting taste test--table sugar is always a little weird distilled.
Would love to get your opinion and ideas on the ways of upgrading the T500, Love the vids keep them coming
I started with turbo yeast kits and well they worked but do have a nasty smell and taste... blended with strong flavours it kinda works but isn't great. However your teddysads video has changed my way of life and wow the difference is amazing. You rock. Keep it up mate from a happy fat kid in auckland
Keep doing what you do. If someone doesn't like it theres dozens of us that do.
Before you totally write turbo yeast off, like I was going to do, try 1/4-1/2 pitch and fermenting under pressure. Completely different final product.
great videos mate. keep up the good work
Thanks 👍
I think you're right about the flavors and everyone tasting things differently, but the only thing I really use turbo yeast for, is vodka or rc car fuel, if I distill it. I use it in wines and meads, and it has multivitamins ground into it to keep it going strong, that's half the nasty off flavor that people talk about, but I really don't taste it myself. Thanks for sharing your views Jessi. This is your hobby, not everyone else's, so do what you like brother.
Thank you for clarifying your previous video. I have used turbo yeast a various times but I am new to distilling (less than a year in) right now I just use it in my rum because I need to use up what I ordered. On another note I have a friend that moved to New Zealand a couple years ago and dabbles a little in distilling. What are some hard to get items for distilling there?
What was the abv of the wash before distilling? George recons anything above 14% ABV in a wash will have off flavours in the distillate. Would it be worth doing a wash say in a larger volume with the normal sugar level to achive 14% or less. Then see if the distillate has a different flavour?
Just subscribed, I like your honesty bruv 👍
T500 for the boiler is ok, use other products for column or pot still. And power controller is a must.
Very well said, if you are a home distiller do what you want because you can Cheers!!
Hey mate good video.
I run the T500 and have done a quiet a few Turbo and TPW washes, some have been good some have been not so good.
To start with I used the carbon etc in the wash but no longer use it, I feel its more of a gimmick than anything else, also I don’t use the clearing agent as that’s mainly used to settle the carbon from what I’ve been told. To clear my wash I just use about 4 Tspoons of gelatine.
The really good runs with the Turbo wash was during winter when the temps were lower than summer and it turned out not too bad, I’m in the process of fermenting in a temp controlled fridge for the first time to see if that helps and then the next change I will be making is to use dextrose to see how that affects the taste.
The local brew shop says that the heat in summer can really stress the yeast and that gives off the bad flavours but you probably knew that already.
A mates old man loves the rum with a turbo wash and when I’ve given him a bottle of Rum made from TPW he wasn’t that keen, I like the TPW as well but just different tastes I guess.
I am looking forward to seeing what you have next in store for the gateway still.
And to those that oppose
Meh !
I think you were clear and as a Turbo user I had no problem with what you said. You have pushed me to change though. A good discussion of the issues.
My first still was an essencia dual element 25L reflux still and I quickly outgrew it, but that being said, it was a great little unit to learn the theory on and build my confidence before I upgraded to my 50L still with interchangeable parts.
You done a science, your opinion changed with the evidence and you shed your bias in doing so. Good job, I wish more people had the ability to do what you've just done and change your opinion when presented with new evidence.
Keep doing what you're doing, please!
Cheers mate
@@StillIt no problem, thank you for all the info you've put out about the craft I'd like to try at some point, altho it might be a bit dodgy to do so here in the UK. I'm still trying to work out exactly what the rules are here for distillation.
I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with the turbo 500. I have been looking into getting one myself as my first still.
Great video! Curious what yeast would you use with a suger wash?
Thank you for your advice it helped me,,, chasing the craft
Don't sweat it, vid was fine. Keep up the good work, always interesting. :-)
Hi Jesse I have been distilling with turbo yeast for a number of years but unlike yourself splitting the yeast between two 5 gallon tubs which I find OK, stay safe thanks for entertaining and educating me 😊
How about your normal wash using the copper dome t500. Does that compère to your CCM
You didn't fuck up, you presented a controversial topic, it's at once interesting, and subject to criticism, but I loved it! I sincerely hope you go to the next stage and go to the full recommended process. I am a baker's yeast fan, but I can think of circumstances (ok mostly due to nno time to do my usual procedure) where I may want to go turbo (again)...
Nice job Jesse. Regardless what you say someone will have a problem with it. No need to defend your results or opinion. You never come across as forcing your opinion. You are open minded. Many on the Forum can come across as morons at times, even if they are being helpful. For those of us that follow you and literally are using and trying your techniques.... thank you and keep it up
Your getting skinny Jesse, might be time to ferment some beer to up the waste line 🤣
Haha, he's just buying bigger T-Shirts 😉 Works for me...
Not sure about that Dr Geeks. Yo, Friar, stop giving my secrets away haha
Love your videos mate ,anyone who unsubscribes ( ITS THERE LOSE ) Keep chasing the craft 👍
Hey Jesse, first off, mad props for making this video. Thank you. As I recently (coincidentally) tried turbo yeast for the first time, I'd like to share my thoughts on it and your videos. Now, I'm a recent subscriber to the channel and I admit to being a bit turned off by the first video. Because in my mind, the title of the video, "How bad is turbo yeast" makes me think turbo yeast is bad. The taste test, seemed to be a way of proving the point. Which your wife didn't exactly support, lol. I guess to me, it kind of came off as a hit job. But I don't think that was intentional, now that I've seen your follow up. My experience with turbo yeast was quite positive, but I don't distill. (yet) I guess you'd call me an experienced home brewer. I make beer and cider, but I've yet to make the leap to purchasing a still (I may have to look at that T-500.) Anyway, I recently made a batch of freezer-jack using turbo yeast. I choose it, because I wanted a yeast that wouldn't bottom out when the ABV got too high. The fact that it converted all the sugar in such a short amount of time, was kind of a bonus actually. So, I froze the cider and ended up with about a 60 proof product. The wife and I have been enjoying it quite a bit. There's no bad yeast, just yeast that you might use for whatever your reasons might be. Your mileage may vary. On your final point, I agree 100% The best part about this hobby is that there is something for just about everyone. Dry/sweet/whatever, you'll likely find things you like and don't like. The stuff you don't like may be bad because you don't like the way it tastes, but it's not "objectively bad." Anyway, I did find your video thought provoking and I have a strong enough sense of my own opinions that I'm not offended when someone disagrees. I, for one, have no intention of unsubscribing! Thanks so much for the great content. -Dave
I can get a 24 hour ferment with kveik and it tastes better imo. I think it was a good enough comparison.
Using the T500 would love to see what the rum would turn out like using the copper Dome. Also a comparison of the stuff provided in the pack and also one of your own ingredients but still using the T500.
Hey mate love your videos. I'm a newbie and looking at buying a still, only thing is I'm going to probably make vodka, gin and mainly whiskey as thats my drop. Looking at the T500 is this a good option to go with as I can get the Alembic Pot for this as well.
Just got my copper T500 and my next wash will be a TPW. You are a effin champion Bro
I would love to see all your stills.
Also in use. I love your content😀
I wouldn't worry about it too much brother. You have a valid argument. I have tried the turbo yeast. There is a place for it, but not in my normal arsenal due to the fact that I have other "flavors" in mind that I would rather produce. With that said, I did try it recently using some back set from a 7th generation UJSSM, and it turned out not too shabby. I will admit, it was still pretty hot tasting after, but it did quell some of the off flavors that I normally don't like in Turbo. Now, if you add the pricing for all of the Turbo products into the mix, to just to make a clean neutral spirit out of it, then I would say hard pass. There are better and more economical options.
Hi Jes, can one use rice for nutrient or will it screw up. Kind regards, Ben za
and on ya jess i love what you do chase that craft
Most of the stuff in the bag is actually a PH buffer, not yeast and nutrients. Its usually sodium citrate and citric acid. My guess is that this is what gives the typical "turbo flavor".
Some T500 things i do...
I put a layer of marbles in the boiler (almost 300)
I do a single run at 48deg C
I put a bit of butter in it to break surface tension
The first 250ml is dumped, there seams to be a taste difference between the 200ml and 250ml mark
Get the small pump from them, this should be a standard with the T500....it makes a massive difference. I also put a temp strip on the pump housing, it helps you understand flow rate VS water temp
Very Entertaining and Good School Teaching MR
I have made Ujssm and vodka using Turbo Yeast and there is no comparison for me which is better. I do have quite a bit of distillate from the turbo yeast and the taste is off . What would happen if I distilled the distillate a second time with some of the backset from the Ujssm?
"With a sample size of 2 we already have a disagreement" bahhh hahaha. My wife is going to love that line.
I have used the Mile High version of the turbo yeast but I did something completely different for a sugar wash.. I allow it to ferment out dry (For me it takes two or three weeks) I haven't been too offended by the flavors it produces. I liked your video on the turbo yeast however and I do think it has a place in the distilling community as well, but if you are using grains or something other than sugar for your fermentation it is really not necessary to use Turbo Yeast for a fermentation you would be much better off using another strain of yeast. Just my thoughts on it. Thanks for all you do!
I use and like turbo, charcoal, clear. But respect your opinion and videos ....keep them coming
So Jesse would you think if a guy used less of the product ie: turbo, it might not have as strong of an off flavour? I started out with turbo's till covid made it unavailable. Then started using DADY and like it. But I made some good stuff with the turbo. So thinking 1/2 to 2/3 pack might take a little longer but give a better result. Also worth noting that I make a lot of liqueurs and Schnapps and cream liqueurs like Irish cream, espresso cappuccino, chocolate hazelnut, limoncello and such and also I drink vodka (shine) and coke. Another question is what is the "teddy sad" recipe. I would like to try it.
I have a question.
How do you set up 2 or 3 glasses on that shelf in front of you and then present in such an expressive manner (aerobics workout) and not send them all flying?
Is it the magic of editing ?
Jesse, since you brought up the topic.... maybe you already have a video on this.... What are your "go-to" yeasts for Bourbon, Rye or Scotch? Are they different? Why? What flavor profile the yeast imparts are you chasing? Do you blend yeast? What about splitting a batch of wash, fermenting with different yeast and recombining them at the distillation step? Sorry man, I am way behind, work has been really busy do to Covid-19 and I need to get caught up.
excellent video!
I started with PD column still and ran the turbo yeast through it as came with it and seems to be the starting point for most. The next batch I read up on TPW and decided to give it a go. And since I don't have a brew shop in town the ingredients needed for the TPW I can source from my local convenience store. So for me TPW is great as I don't have to leave town for ingredients, and I dont have to filter it either as it comes out smoother without that after taste. I did try the turbo once more when I was chasing a harsher flavour to try and replicate Bundy Rum as the TPW is smoother and sweeter when adding essence flavours. But now I just make the TPW neutral and chip it with Rum chips without the essence, its not Bundy but it nice . So yes each to there own on the Turbo.
And yes working with your wife to taste test end product mine done the same to me lol, keeps us on our toes and honest . Keep doing what works for you👍
Hey Jesse! Received coins #224 and 225. Thanks!
The Umami-like texture you referred to in your previous video I think is called Kokumi. The best way to describe it is "depth." It's prevalent in beer. For me, it is accompanied by a feeling in the back corners of your tongue.
And... F the haters!
Can u do your version of the turbo yeast and do a step buy step comparison. Cheers
What is your opinion on turbo 48 hour yest?? I'm very new to this and I just ordered some on Amazon to try it out.
Turbo clear is just Chitosan and Keiselsol like you'd get anywhere. Turbo carbon, I understand, is to absorb some of the byproducts from using the "Turbo" yeast range.
Keep it up Jesse: Love that you share your opinions and openness. Hobby Distilling and ‘religion’ don’t mix and we don’t need people who don’t get that. We are all on a journey; let’s just enjoy it.