Let's be Clear about Clarity in Brewing

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Let's be Clear about Clarity in Brewing. Clarity in wine mead and ciders as well as beer can be a heated topic. Some people feel very strongly that it should always and only be 100% crystal clear. Well, as much as we appreciate a clear brew, it's not that important. There's other things that factor in more strongly, and sometimes, how you achieve that clarity is just as important as the clarity of your brew itself.
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  • @GogiRegion
    @GogiRegion 2 роки тому +10

    While I recognize that clarity isn't super important, I just remember a time in which I brought some homemade wine over to a friend's house for an event and I had just not racked it well enough and it was super cloudy and nobody tried it. In the end, it tasted great when I drank it myself, but the lack of clarity made a lot of people hesitant to drink, so now if I want to share, I like to try and have it clear, but if I plan to drink myself only I don't care quite as much.

  • @KaribeCuebas
    @KaribeCuebas 2 роки тому +13

    Amen sir! My mango wine never got to the “clear” stage but my friends and I loved it. It was delish to us without all the extra stuff. Only fresh blended mango, water, sugar and yeast with a three week wait did the trick. 😎😎

  • @ChrisRedheart
    @ChrisRedheart 4 роки тому +14

    I totally agree. My wine/mead can be cloudy, IDC. I am drinking it for the taste, not for the looks.

  • @jeffclark9500
    @jeffclark9500 4 роки тому +23

    I started making my own wine for one reason. To suit my taste. Some of mine are clear, some aren't. What I don't like I don't drink. It don't have to be complicated to be good. Thanks for the great information.

  • @kenw7098
    @kenw7098 4 роки тому +22

    Thank you for clarifying ( see what I did there) the use of clearing agents in our fermentations. As always you guys provide information as well as entertainment. I'm sure there will be so push back on this, but those that feel the same as you understand why you feel this way.

  • @robertlrosekranssr7409
    @robertlrosekranssr7409 4 роки тому +38

    Hey Brian.... “cations” would be pronounced “cat” “ion”+s as in the pleural. Just positively charged ions

    • @gwwasham
      @gwwasham 2 роки тому +3

      Hey Robert, "pleural" is supposed to be plural.

    • @lukeshedid650
      @lukeshedid650 Рік тому

      @@gwwasham I was just gonna give the etymology 😂

    • @andruloni
      @andruloni Рік тому

      In my language it's pronounced close to what you can hear in the video, so when I heard cat-ions I found it just very cute

  • @dragonianwolf
    @dragonianwolf 4 роки тому +49

    heavy metals can be good like mettalica, iron maiden, disturbd, motorhead, deep purple, .... ;-)

    • @carolusrex8488
      @carolusrex8488 3 роки тому +2

      dont forget sabaton!

    • @tstatus1206
      @tstatus1206 2 роки тому

      Smooookke on the water, and fire in the sky

    • @geekay2024
      @geekay2024 Рік тому +1

      Avenged sevenfold linkin park system of a down five finger death punch and so and so

  • @brentreece3905
    @brentreece3905 4 роки тому +8

    Another bonus on letting time clear your brew. You are also letting it mellow and age. So, you are doing two things at once to make your brew more appealing to yourself and others! In MY OPINION, the only time to use a clearing agent is when a brew is best when it is un-aged or "fresh" from fermentation. Which I have only found once out of the 30 brews I have made and I just cold crashed it the second time I made it.

  • @TheOriginalDroid
    @TheOriginalDroid 5 місяців тому

    A four year old video...
    After watching ALL of your podcasts, and a good majority of your videos, the initial nervousness of beginning is being quelled.
    The gratitude for what you guys are doing just can't be put into words.
    I've invited you into my home every day so far i feel like your part of my family ha!
    So, just like everyone else who watches and appreciates your hard work (and humor) thank you...
    It's not as mysterious and complicated as some might think. (Myself included)
    Sorry for my verbosity lol
    Please keep em coming 😊

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! Glad you're getting so much out of our videos 👍

  • @williamcurry185
    @williamcurry185 6 місяців тому

    I really appreciate the information of the clarifying agents. Had you all not made this video and had I not happen to cross it at this particular time I probably would’ve ruined 6 gallons of something delicious. Thank you for all the helpful information.

  • @joshuaguy1099
    @joshuaguy1099 4 роки тому +22

    I’ve used chemicals (pectic enzyme and a yeast nutrient) in one brew. It was my worst brew to date. On the flip side my best brew was made using local honey, some fresh picked blueberries, orange zest from the back yard, and bread yeast. But one thing has remained true with all off my brews. I can’t seem to taste clarity.

    • @rayc5255
      @rayc5255 9 місяців тому

      Can't taste clarity that is golden 👍👍👍

  • @dankauffman8568
    @dankauffman8568 4 роки тому +7

    Brian and Derica , thank you . I only have pectic enzyme at home . Never used it . Haven't had the need to . After this , don't think I ever will .

    • @borttorbbq2556
      @borttorbbq2556 4 роки тому

      So that is for industrial usage like we're talking pounds of this stuff at a time not the couple grams you might use for a brew. I would say it's good for like bread yeast Brews but outside of that not really much need.

    • @jsharkey1786
      @jsharkey1786 3 роки тому +1

      It will also kill the natural yeast from the grapes so when you pitch your yeast you no what your actually getting

  • @paulallerston3771
    @paulallerston3771 4 роки тому +2

    Absolutely spot on. Don't boil, you'll probably not have pectin issues. Who wants to add mud to their brews? If you let it sit in conditioning, it'll clear and de-gas and be a beautiful thing

  • @avifreed5243
    @avifreed5243 3 роки тому +1

    "mor-on that later (throws away sheet)" That made me chuckle, hats off to you.

  • @Greez1337
    @Greez1337 3 роки тому +6

    Fridge space is my favourite ingredient in mead making.

  • @codyhubert6178
    @codyhubert6178 2 роки тому +4

    I see clearing as a challenge. I love to try and get a perfectly clear brew (beer). Some styles of beer *generally* require the beer to be clear (most lagers). It's a mental thing for people who don't know the difference.
    I will use gelatin (or chitosan/kiesosol) and carrageenan, time, and cold crash to get a clear beer.
    My wine, however, I feel should be cleared with time. Wine needs time and it's going to clear anyways, and its clarity is a testament to its age.
    In the end the flavor will never change but to me it just feels better to drink something I can read a newspaper through

  • @mattkanaby974
    @mattkanaby974 4 роки тому +10

    forgot Irish Moss. just saying. keep brewing dont lick door handles. have a nice day

  • @michaelderrick810
    @michaelderrick810 Рік тому +1

    I have been using pasteurizing as my clarification tool. 140 degrees from 20 minutes and crystal clear mead in 5 days.

    • @AM2PMReviews
      @AM2PMReviews 7 місяців тому

      I did this on my first one and then cold crashed it and it was like amazing after 2 days.

  • @patrickhanlon3404
    @patrickhanlon3404 4 роки тому +4

    I love your guys' content, been watching for a long time now! I've gotten to a point where now I can answer these questions along with you guys, which just shows how much I've learned in my time brewing. I'm happy to be growing in my experience along with you guys, thank you for all you've taught me!

  • @CrenJay
    @CrenJay 4 роки тому +3

    Yay I made the comments show! That cyser came out great by the way, I think I finished the last bottle in January. Watching this video with a glass of the lemon and ginger mead you guys showed us how to make in January (it's crystal clear too 😉)

  • @FunkyFyreMunky
    @FunkyFyreMunky 4 роки тому +4

    Opinions on chemical contaminants concerning bentonite aside here, I have found *one* use for bentonite flavour-wise. I had a rosehip wine where the tannins got away from me. Way too many seeds escaped into the wine. Bottom of the fermentation bucket, didn't see them until clearing. Even after 6 months of aging in the demijohn after finishing, way too much tannin. The bentonite stripped enough of the tannins out to make it palatable. Yes, it stripped out a fair bit of the rosehip flavour as well, but there's something to be said for adding flavours while back-sweetening. Bentonite is by no means my go-to method of clearing, it's like throwing the baby out with the bath water, but if all else fails I find it better than throwing out 25 litres of wine.

  • @TrevorGeene
    @TrevorGeene 4 роки тому +1

    Great video as usual. The one thing I do want to comment on is that if things don't clear in secondary I tend to have sediment at the bottom of each bottle, so that is why I always wait for perfect clarity. If I was the only one drinking my bottles I wouldn't worry, but if I am going to give it to friends I want them to have a sediment free bottle.

  • @Hagrid1313
    @Hagrid1313 4 роки тому +22

    i'll just wait and if my patients runs out i'll have some sediment in the bottle, who cares aslong as the mead tastes great

    • @Dave_en
      @Dave_en 3 роки тому +1

      Just wait 3 months from start. Even the wine made with bread yeast becomes crystal clear without any sediments.

  • @jackb4581
    @jackb4581 4 роки тому +1

    After watching this I appreciate the fact that clarity rarely affects me or the problems associated in obtaining clarity. Peace.

  • @Mrcloc
    @Mrcloc 4 роки тому +1

    I made your easy sweet red wine recipe. It's finally finished fermenting. Tastes great. Went from clear juice to cloudy wine, but I'm not fazed. It's busy settling the sediment out now in the fridge. It turned out a rose rather than a red. Again, not fazed. It tastes great.
    I used gelatin and cold crashing to clear my ale before racking - now that worked! The reason being that I find it takes really long, and I don't have the space to clear the yeast out in the fridge after carbonation, and I don't want the beer to sit clearing for months before I can enjoy it. The yeast taste in beer really spoils it.

  • @johndoe-pz3br
    @johndoe-pz3br 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, i use for my brews 1 week of cold crashing and half a leaf of gelatin for the remaining "dirts". Works very well for all my brews! Cheers from France! Keep up the good work on your videos.

  • @jamestarbet9608
    @jamestarbet9608 4 роки тому +1

    I suggest for clarity (of the issue), secondary should be called something like bulk aging or mellowing. It is not actual fermentation and it is not bottle conditioning/carbing. It is it's own step in the overall fermentation process.

  • @Alwis-Haph-Rytte
    @Alwis-Haph-Rytte 4 роки тому +1

    If clarity is an issue, pour the wine in a mug so you don't notice, LOL. Egg whites are natural and food grade. Only problem is mixing them in without introducing oxygen. I actually used a blender to mix 11 egg whites with a pint of the 5 gallons that I was clarifying. I dumped it in and mixed it up lees and all, and had my doubts. A week later it was as clear as can be. It had no egg flavors and tasted good. This was 30 years ago and I haven't done it since because I hate to waste food, and I like my eggs fried.

  • @eddavanleemputten9232
    @eddavanleemputten9232 3 роки тому +1

    Yay on this video!
    As a Belgian I learned to drink beer that was cloudy. Hence,as long as floaties aren’t haunting my brews I have never minded cloudy brews. As far as wines go, I did have reservations about cloudy brews... that were commercially produced and were supposed to be clear. For a home brew, as long as I suspect it’s pectin, I don’t mind at all. When serving a cloudy wine, just don’t call it wine to snobs. Have them taste it unfettered by preconceived ideas and as you said: give it time. Pour carefully. No probs.
    On other words: I happen to agree... again!

  • @jimcurt99
    @jimcurt99 2 роки тому

    The winner once again is TIME!!! time will always WIN- and just do things right to begin with

  • @Kingcj2001
    @Kingcj2001 4 роки тому +8

    I care more about taste than clarity. After putting my brew in secondary, I forget about it. Four months pass and I'm like, "Oh, look. I can see through it." XD

    • @Dave_en
      @Dave_en 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly! Brian told me to wait for a while and magic happened. The wine clears itself within 3 months from start.

  • @the_whiskeyshaman
    @the_whiskeyshaman 4 роки тому +1

    Love it. I feel like a lot of the comments haven’t watched the early videos were y’all talk at length about using as few ingredients as possible and knowing what goes in it. Keep it up.

  • @archietyler6759
    @archietyler6759 4 роки тому

    I totally agree with both of you. Every brew I've made cleared with time. Love it. By the time I finished drinking one the other one was ready to go and Crystal clear. Set it and forget it. I don't worry about any chemicals or additives that way. Nice and simple. Thank you for all you do and the info too!!! Cheers!!!😊

  • @bartrommelaere9561
    @bartrommelaere9561 2 роки тому +3

    In my experience, adding fruits is the best way to clarify mead. I made your viking blood and it cleared up insanely quickly because of the hibiscus!
    And since i have raspberries in my garden, i often make raspberry melomel and it clears up insanly fast as well. Right now i have one ready to be bottled, which had the raspberries added after primary fermentation. Half of that is still just a tradition mead, is still not clear after using bentonite AND gelatine in it, while the rasperry one was clear a week after adding them.
    I'll definitely look for other ways for clearing from now on. The secret might be in a small corner, like just adding some fruit that does little in taste but a lot in nutrients and clarifying agent.

  • @DukeTrout
    @DukeTrout 4 роки тому +4

    You covered this, but it deserves repeating: “volcanic” should set off some alarm bells when it comes to anything that touches your food or goes in your body. There are lakes in dead volcanoes that have very high concentrations of mercury and arsenic due to the natural occurrence of those elements in the soil, such that fish from those lakes can be toxic.

    • @vepristhorn8278
      @vepristhorn8278 3 роки тому

      True, but the content of such elements is completely dependent on the composition of the magma and every volcano has a different composition even when comparing say a felsic to a felsic. Each volcano is unique, so it goes back to what he said know where it comes from

  • @uqox
    @uqox Рік тому

    Wow! This is me from the future! I'm binging the channel using UA-cam suggestions and am excited to understand why you use pectin enzyme now. Something changed, and I like that! Changing our minds is a sign of emotional intelligence when we get new information. Many thanks for continuing to share!

  • @faersher
    @faersher Рік тому

    I bought Dualfine to use. Then read that chitsan was not recommended if allergic to shellfish or mushroom! Your video saved me from making a horrible mistake!! THANK YOU!!!!

  • @oibal60
    @oibal60 Рік тому +2

    After making a batch of hard cider from: freshly-squeezed, natural, cold-pressed, unmolested, unpasteurized, apple juice that TASTED great (tannins), (thanks Belle Saison yeast!) - I had one of the relatives (her side of the family) utter: "But it's muddy!" (And refused to even taste it, whilst everyone else asked for seconds.)
    I took out my wallet, handed her $2 and told her to stop into the store, on her way home, and buy a packet of candy, apple flavor, whilst simultaneously explaining that: adding all sorts of chemicals 'just to make it clear' basically turns it into a Jolly Rancher.

    • @BungSpoot
      @BungSpoot 11 місяців тому

      Unmolested? I can change that.

  • @sandeepbhat8275
    @sandeepbhat8275 11 місяців тому

    I love way you keep it simple.

  • @troyh4292
    @troyh4292 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you guys for all the great information! Great content and I've learned so much. I must be one of the ones that is fairly indifferent on the clearing agents; I have used Sparkolloid for a few stubborn brews that weren't quite as clear as I wanted, but looking back, I just didn't want to wait as long. I only wait a week or so after adding the Sparkolloid before bottling, and the brew is usually crystal clear enough for me. However, at this point, my closet is probably looking somewhat like under Brian's desk and I'm not so quick to bottle anymore. Thanks again; I will likely use Sparkolloid less or phase it out entirely as I get lazier and just forget the aging brews in their dark corner...

  • @MarkTheNewf
    @MarkTheNewf 4 роки тому +1

    Yup, I have tried bentonite, sparalloid, and another type that escapees me. The do work, but.....meh....it's just another tool in the arsenal. Time fixes most of it. The one thing that always helps is making sure you're degassing.
    On that note, I've started transferring some of my brews between carboys via a vacuum. Firstly, the target bottle literally has all the oxygen sucked out of it, secondly, the liquid under lower pressure burps out A LOT of the gasses just in the transfer, and thirdly, I can leave the starting container where it is because the liquid is getting sucked by the vacuum of in the line form the target bottle. It doesn't need to be moved or elevated. Not moving it means that I'm reducing the risk of sloshing lees around and/or dropping a big honkin' glass carboy full of boozy goodness.

  • @AdamFranklin500
    @AdamFranklin500 4 роки тому

    Brilliant video! Couldn’t agree more. Some things are more important to people than it is to others, both ways are perfectly fine. Is clarity 100% needed in home brewing? No, its all down to personal preference. As long as you are happy with your brew. I had an extremely cloudy apple, mango and kiwi cider, tasted amazing. Happy brewing guys and gals

  • @rayc5255
    @rayc5255 9 місяців тому

    One of the best ales Ive ever had was Steelhead Pale Ale. 💯 Phenomenal. And was certainly not clear. As for ciders, Im a cloudy fan.

  • @andyn3532
    @andyn3532 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for clearing that up guys 😊

  • @kevinkult
    @kevinkult 4 роки тому +2

    Great video Brian and Derica, thank you again for all the great insight and info!
    For a future video I wondered if you would consider discussing pH, it's impact on brewing mead, and what strategies can be considered to control it when necessary.

  • @TheRscorp
    @TheRscorp 4 роки тому +3

    Has anyone ever tried egg shells to clear? I saw this guy on UA-cam from Ireland. I had a mead that WOULD not clear for anything. You break up some eggshells after cleaning them and dry them a bit in the oven then toss in the pieces and leave it a week. Well damn if it didn't work. It cleared it about 50% and that seemed to be the catalyst. With another 2 weeks of sitting it was crystal clear after I racked it off the shells. This is after months and months of it sitting there with literally 0 clearing.

    • @thsikezierkojo4991
      @thsikezierkojo4991 4 роки тому

      how long in the oven ?which temperature ?

    • @TheRscorp
      @TheRscorp 4 роки тому

      @@thsikezierkojo4991 I didn't time it, I just put them in at like 275 for a few minutes until they were nice and dry and very crunchy. You want to keep an eye on it just get all the moisture out. I've only done it once so far but it cleared it up when nothing else would and the nice part was it didn't take up space. I didn't lose any volume of product.

    • @thsikezierkojo4991
      @thsikezierkojo4991 4 роки тому

      ​@@TheRscorp 275 f or c?thanks i ll try?do you know how long it is safe to left the dry eggshells in the fermenter ?

    • @TheRscorp
      @TheRscorp 4 роки тому +1

      thsikezier kojo I think as long as you want. Wash and dry the shells then bake them a bit and I think that totally kills off any bacteria. It took a couple weeks I think to clear but I wouldn’t worry about it too much. If you’re bulk aging a long time before bottling maybe put it in closer to bottling day rather than letting them sit for months. I think at least a month is no worry though.

    • @thsikezierkojo4991
      @thsikezierkojo4991 4 роки тому

      @@TheRscorp thanks !

  • @Jitkaas
    @Jitkaas 4 роки тому +1

    Clarity is more of a bonus than a goal for me. I love clarity, but i love taste more. Taste should be your end goal.

  • @scottswineford6714
    @scottswineford6714 4 роки тому +14

    Dammit I'm gonna drink it not read a book through it!

  • @antoniopfpf
    @antoniopfpf 3 роки тому +1

    This video really sunk me in with y'al because of the way y'all feel about contaminants and pretty much anything extra in the wine that don't need to be there. Originally I cold crash my wines but for the last couple batches I've been using unflavored gelatin to clear in which I call and label as reserve. It's working pretty good as far as really clearing the wine faster since I don't wait four or five months before bottling. I most definitely feel anything you put it in the wine for whatever reasons becomes part of the wine and you had me sunk and sealed on that one when you said it . I am now testing cold crashing versus unflavored gelatin to see which one actually taste better which I believe cold crashing probably will because you have more of the fruit/flavor that may still be in the wine versus being taken out with the gelatin. I recently bought bentonite and tried it in a very small batch but wish I would have waited a day longer then I would have seen this video. From the beginning when I was reading about bentonite I was kind of iffy on it because of the fact of some things that may get left behind in my drink(even though they tried the pretty it up) but one thing seems to me is it's extra work and I'm cool on that especially after my first small batch. It didn't come out better than my gelatin or as I expected. I just wanted to say keep up the good work and stay pure.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  3 роки тому +2

      Great story. Thanks for sharing that. I'm a firm believer in "If it's not helping your brew, it could be hurting it", so if we don't need it, it's just left out. Brewing is simple, people make it complicated :)

  • @corinnabohny7352
    @corinnabohny7352 4 роки тому

    Right on. Only really just started out with brewing.... everything so far has been totally clear on it's own. I wouldn't have minded if it wasn't, just the way it turned out.

  • @geoffmallett
    @geoffmallett 4 роки тому

    It took me ages, and viewing a lot of your videos (some multiple times to get a handle on the 'tech-y' stuff), to realise that what I wanted to brew was simply something that I enjoyed drinking. Your cheapo red wine from supermarket juice was my first success (after many failures - and, as an interesting and useful result: rather a lot of vinegar that I use for cleaning.....).
    I enjoy, and agree with, your ethos, which you state clearly and in an easy to understand, and funny, way.
    Thanks for the videos - very enjoyable.
    Stay well, you nine ....
    actually, live long and prosper...

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 роки тому

      Thanks Geoff. Glad to have helped! BTW, I still make that cheap red wine right in the container pretty often. Takes about 30 seconds to make, lol.

  • @evertkleynhans2617
    @evertkleynhans2617 3 роки тому

    I just love the "Brian rants!!!" You've made your point!!! (Point, Points, pointers, pointerers, pointererers??!!!) Love your vids!!!! When Derica starts a rant, I'd just RUN!!!!!!

  • @SabreCycles
    @SabreCycles Рік тому

    Excellent show of knowledge based information.

  • @greyarea3804
    @greyarea3804 3 роки тому +1

    If it tastes good and I don't have to chew it then I don't have a problem with it being a bit cloudy

  • @dr.catmilk
    @dr.catmilk 4 роки тому +2

    Pulled a quart off a stuck fermentation, cold crashed it and it was clear after a week. Most importantly it was burped twice a day to relieve gas pressure.

  • @22airgun
    @22airgun 4 роки тому

    I haven’t even heard of half of these things! Thanks for covering them and looking so deep into them!

  • @ernieverdin5136
    @ernieverdin5136 4 роки тому

    If it is safe to consume I will consume it, cloudy or clear. I prefer natural and simple. Water is harmful if inhaled. Last, I prefer classic country over heavy metal any day. Thank you for clearing things up for us simple home brewers.

  • @Dave_en
    @Dave_en 3 роки тому

    I have shared this video with my new wine-lovers group in telegram. Some guys in the group was ranting about clarity of wine and I stated him the same reasons why I would give more time to the wine rather than adding chemicals and clay to my wine/mead.

  • @AndyB450
    @AndyB450 4 роки тому +1

    No, I’m not an advocate for clearing agents, but I like to share my brews with friends. Problem is, people eat and drink with their eyes. Some of my tastiest meads are cloudy as hell, and before they even try them, people say “ewww that’s gross it looks like vomit”. Maybe I need better friends, but clarity plays a role in people’s willingness to try in my experience.

  • @marcmiddleton2277
    @marcmiddleton2277 Рік тому

    My first mead I tried (Dark Sweet Cherries 2# Blueberries 1#, 1 cinnamon stick in fermentation. 1# of dry Dark Tart Cherries in secondary) started December 2nd and clear, good, and drank at Christmas. It was dry.

  • @maxlutz3674
    @maxlutz3674 Рік тому

    A lot of the artisanal stuff is advertized as "naturally cloudy". As a hobby brewer I see myself more in that lane and I do not really care to get the brew clear. It does not always last long enough to actually clear by itself. I totally agree that flavour is more important.
    I recognized a lot of the elements released from bentonite. Some of them are not allowed to be in my electronics solder or batteries. I definitely do not want to put that in my food.

  • @jamesgreen2974
    @jamesgreen2974 2 роки тому

    I'm in complete agreement with you on your position. I'm in the process of making my very first batch of mead ever. If it turns out cloudy, I don't care... if it tastes good... I care... if it tastes bad... I care. I'm just using 3 ingredients (honey, water, and yeast) with absolutely no clearing agents at all, because i want to experience what a very basic home made mead tastes like. Clarity is not the be all end all of mead making, for me... what is the be all end all is... does it taste good...to me. If so, I'm considering my attempt successful. End of story.

  • @RobGraham048
    @RobGraham048 3 роки тому +2

    I use diatomaceous earth around my bee hives to keep out ants and other pests.

  • @geekUGH2
    @geekUGH2 4 роки тому

    Time is everything with clarity. I did a cyser and it also is very clear. Just took a few months. The only time I use a filter (some filter sack) is when I dryhop my beer with a lot of hops. But that's just to get rid of the hops. Not nice to have hops in the bottle. The problem is that I cannot let the brew sit too long with the hops because this makes some grassy flavours. To do a secondary (conditioning) of that kind of beer is also not a good plan because it will loose the hops flavour. I usually also use tea eggs for dryhopping. This helps a little but still there is too much hops parts in the beer. So I stick to filtering when putting the beer from the fermenter to the botteling tank. Cold crashing the brew before botteling would be a solution but I am afraid to loose too much yeast for the carbonation in the bottle.

  • @johnburke5087
    @johnburke5087 3 роки тому

    I think you just saved my life! I was thinking of using bentonite, even had it loaded in my Amazon cart. I have a very serious metal allergy and consuming some of the elements you listed would be very harmful. Thank you

  • @evansmith2429
    @evansmith2429 4 роки тому

    Agree my pyment is Crystal after 4 weeks at 17deg c in a fridge with 2 weeks cold crash at 3 deg c and is now sitting at 17 deg c in a fridge for several months. Absolutely crystal. No additives. Hydromel and read Mead as well.

  • @monroemartini4781
    @monroemartini4781 4 роки тому

    Thank you both for the "Clarification" ,keep them coming

  • @jamesmaclarnon
    @jamesmaclarnon 3 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video! Very passionate and informative pair. Found you from a subreddit link having had questions about clearing. You’ve got my sub.

  • @edwardcunningham6315
    @edwardcunningham6315 Рік тому

    Another great discussion between you, derika and us😃👍
    I've used pectic enzyme for banana but other than that time has always been my clarifying agent.
    My grandparents taught me this years ago.
    I guess that works for our minds as we get older too🤣😁👍❤️

  • @habutti
    @habutti Рік тому

    You guys rock! Kombucha is not for the taste, it’s for the life benefits. Your first beer in your life was horrible, and you learned to love it 😂

  • @MandalorV7
    @MandalorV7 4 роки тому +1

    Well I'll just say this, for the first brew that I ever did all I added was honey, water, and a small amount of black tea and it turned out clear.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 роки тому +3

      Yup, there's no secret magical voodoo to it. People want to overcomplicate everything for some reason.

  • @ConspiredOne
    @ConspiredOne 4 роки тому +1

    Great Vid guys, I did a clarity test with nothing and bentonite. In my pineapple mead. There was no difference in clarity but the bentonite cleared faster. Taste was the same and I had to let the bentonite age the same as the natural clearing(just let it sit) version. To get the same taste... my personal preference is to just let it sit. It’s too much work for the same results. I have plenty to do instead of adding another process to what works fine. Taste is more important than clarity to me... just one mans opinion..... happy steading 😁🍺😁

  • @gageparker7653
    @gageparker7653 3 роки тому +1

    You already did all the work for us when it comes to trial and error. So there’s really no reason to complain because I can just do it like you. But it’d be really cool to see you go out of your way to try new, risky things, Just to show what happens. Like brewing without cleaning. Or using these clearing agents, you’ve never tried. Hell. Sometimes I wonder if you brewed mead in a barrel would it make it taste better. I know those aren’t super fantastic examples but I still think it’d be cool.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  3 роки тому

      1) Taking a risk of not sanitizing... nope. Not sanitizing won't guarantee failure but if it fails, it's guaranteed to be a complete waste and I hate wasting food.
      2) No need to use clearing agents. We never have, and likely never will. They just aren't necessary. Showing the use of something we don't think is needed is wasteful too. Just not our way of doing things.
      3) Brewing in a barrel is a bad idea. Yeast and bacteria get into the wood. Aging in a barrel can be done though.

  • @Looptydude
    @Looptydude 4 роки тому +2

    Cold crashing seems to be working for me, I doubt I'll ever use a clearing agent.

  • @si98justme1
    @si98justme1 4 роки тому

    I think a lot of people confuse home brewing, nano and micro brewing with commercial brewing. To me the difference is: am I going to sell it or not. If I’m brewing for me, my family and my friends, it’s home brewing. If I’m going to market, sticking labels on it, with a price tag, it’s micro (or nano) brewing.
    In the case of my definition of home brewing, I think of it as a hobby and an education on how it was done for millennia (literally). They never had access to fancy clarifying agents, or even some of the equipment we use today. They kept it incredibly simple, even sanitizing wasn’t completely possible... Am I saying that we should, as home brewers, all use clay pots and use rotten twigs to make stuff with, no. Certain practices and equipment available to us now, improve reliability of a brew, or make it more repeatable. That’s the stuff we should keep, and I agree, don’t put anything that isn’t necessary in the brew.
    Now if you were selling it, ie not a home brewer, then maybe you could add some stuff in there that makes it keep better, or more attractive to consumers, but in my humble opinion, only if it doesn’t negatively affect your product, or your consumers. As pointed out in the video, some of this stuff has recommendations for safety, and you can bet that commercial breweries have deep enough pockets for the R&D to ensure they don’t kill (or even risk) their customers. They also will have optimized their processes to save the most amount of time and money possible, cause that equals bigger profits and more competitive pricing.
    As a micro/nano brewery, what should set you apart, and what your key marketing strategy should be, as that your stuff hasn’t suffered economy of scale. It should be better, take longer, be different and be truer to the product you’re making, and as a consequence, more expensive. So even at a point where you’re a nano/micro brewery, I still think there’s no reason to add compounds that reduce your product to the same as commercial products, at a higher price, is more difficult to produce, and tastes similar. What’s the point then?
    In short, as is pointed out in the video, it time gets the brew clear, give it the time. If you don’t care about clarity, don’t. If you want it clear, why? Does it make it better somehow, if it is? Does it cost more and make it more complicated? Definitely. Objectively, is it necessary? No. If you still want to have a clear brew, and don’t want to wait, that’s fine, use the stuff, but don’t pretend your brew is better, and tell others it’s required, simply on the merit of how transparent it is.
    I can bet you the real brews, the ones made 100’s Or even 1000’s of years ago were cloudy. In fact, if you’d offered the people of that time one of our clear beers, they probably would have thought you had just offered them your cold pee some beer even tastes like urine if it’s not ice cold and fizzy (yes, you, Castle lite!). If tradition is what we’re trying to keep true to, and not the commercial swill that can’t even be tolerable at room temperature, or without intense carbonation, then why add stuff that doesn’t make it better, and could potentially make it worse?

  • @SolidXerm
    @SolidXerm 4 роки тому

    This video couldn't have come at a better time, my most prided mead just unexpectedly became cloudy with a waxy white substance manifesting on its top. It's a spiced apple mead aged with orange slices for a couple months, I just finished racking it last winter and it was beautifully clear. In fact, it looked just like your Fey Wine except a bit more amber in colour. Four days ago, however, it turned into what I described above - Its flavour does not seem impacted, but my heart bleeds for its tarnished looks. I reckon that the weather is at fault, it was consistently 22 Celsius for a week and I keep the bottles outside in a shack.

  • @trotter2099
    @trotter2099 3 роки тому

    My tomato wine cleared naturally after 3 months. After 6 months it tasted amazing and looked amazing. 6 bottles of clear tasty wine that cost 20p per bottle

  • @simonvarghese9193
    @simonvarghese9193 3 роки тому

    Lovely explanation and experience. I go with you.Amatuer from India. God bless you both.

  • @zvipeshkess8536
    @zvipeshkess8536 2 роки тому

    Just found this video.
    One note about Honey and pesticides ....
    Guess what .. Unless you are getting honey from a source that is miles away (10+ miles or in remote mountains etc. )from any farming area that uses pesticides .... you will have pesticides residues in your honey period!! How much ?? unless tested you will not know. ....Bees travel long distances to get their Nectar and Pollen ..
    other than that , great information ... made up my mind to change how I make my wines ..bering them closer to 100% natural..

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  2 роки тому +1

      Absolutely. It is very difficult to find products that are 100% pesticide free. Even in our own small backyard garden where we try to be as organic as possible, I know there are still plenty of unwanted chemicals from our water, from our neighbors treating their own property, from the County's treatment of mosquitos and the like, getting into my gardens. We just try to do the best we can to limit it from our side.

  • @MerlinsBeard91
    @MerlinsBeard91 4 роки тому

    Holy crap I thought Brian actually broke something...well done. Ya got me. Thank you for all of the great info!!

  • @hugopaulini
    @hugopaulini 4 роки тому

    As usual, I love your videos guys!!!
    Gotta say though that one thing is being a homebrewer and another, quite different, is being a comercial mead maker...
    That said, it's all about what you want!!! One thing is not necesarily better than the oter!

  • @kylegilbertson2401
    @kylegilbertson2401 2 роки тому

    Exactly why I don't make beer, If it takes that much time and effort, I'll just buy it.

  • @bradpalmer2914
    @bradpalmer2914 3 роки тому +1

    I have to be fair I do agree with you. I choose not to use finings generally but if anybody else wants to then that's fine. Just know what you are really putting in your brews.
    I live in the UK and I love visiting Somerset apple orchards. Some of their scrumpy cider should come with a knife and fork (ok maybe not that bad) but the taste.... Oh wow, compare to a commercial bottled hard cider and it is just a different drink totally.

  • @NatsuDragneel021
    @NatsuDragneel021 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for this video. It really helped me understand more about what goes into the brews. The first mead I ever made I used a store-bought kit (liquor quik brand) and it used finings and a bunch of other things that I can't pronounce to clear the mead. In the end, it came out super clear but tasted absolutely awful. Tasted too much like chemicals and rubbing alcohol. After that, I went to Google and UA-cam to find better ways. That is when I came across your channel and fell in love. I have made multiple batches from your videos and they have tasted immensely better. The only problem I have had is how long some of them have taken to clear. I have had a batch sitting for a year and is still cloudy. Not sure if it is something I did, but after watching this I am no longer concerned.
    I have a question if I am going for a clearer mead, will it affect the quality if I simply let it sit after the fermentation has stopped, or should I rack it to remove the lees and then let it sit after that?

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 роки тому +2

      No rush to rack it. It can sit several months no priblem.

  • @Jakep339
    @Jakep339 Місяць тому

    Got plim trees made a lot of wine with them and bread yeast clear and taste pretty good and it's not very old

  • @monsurbanpatch
    @monsurbanpatch 3 роки тому +1

    Great Video! I'm new to brewing so I'm watching a lot of brewing videos at the moment. I've subbed!

  • @thankfulpeeps5456
    @thankfulpeeps5456 2 роки тому

    The only time I'm concerned with clarity is when gifting the brew to friends & family, but I know I'm losing flavor when I "make" it clear.

  • @10rarthurc
    @10rarthurc 4 роки тому +2

    Is it weird that my Cyster clarified in two weeks? Still brewing, just crystal

  • @warrenthiele4954
    @warrenthiele4954 4 роки тому

    Love the channel guys, been watching for some time now. You keep it simple so I tried my 1st batch some time ago and found a new hobby!

  • @wwallace8865
    @wwallace8865 4 роки тому

    Just found your video's and they are excellent ! I've been trying to watch them all, as I'm new to brewing and trying to apply the KISS principle to my new found hobby. Thumbs Up!

  • @hman2912
    @hman2912 4 роки тому

    Bentonite is used as a lubricant for drilling rigs. More commonly called Mud. If you've seen it in that context, it doesn't make you wanna rush out and chuck it in your drink

  • @temjenjim4649
    @temjenjim4649 3 роки тому

    Love you man, i tried making my own win and it worked.
    Thank you for teaching me. I wish i could send some to you for your opinion.

  • @joebonaiuto5554
    @joebonaiuto5554 4 роки тому

    Kombucha, condition with a couple of prunes, dried sweet cherries and a dash of vanilla, it tastes like dr pepper.

  • @raymondking9063
    @raymondking9063 4 роки тому

    Good video guys - I have been seeing a lot on the pectin and was thinking it might be something to consider - didn't realize it could be "potentially' harmful. I'm with you on the natural ingredients and easy to do!

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  4 роки тому

      Wait.... I never said pectin was harmful!

    • @raymondking9063
      @raymondking9063 4 роки тому

      @@CitySteadingBrews The enzyme being a potential respiratory irritant, avoid contact with skin - yes, I realize this is probably the extreme - in a concentrated form. May be harmful if absorbed thru skin. Guideline to handle are using google and long gloves. Doesn't sound like something I want to drink.

  • @Dark666Ferret
    @Dark666Ferret 3 роки тому

    Very helpful! All good info to know!!

  • @moleratical1232
    @moleratical1232 3 роки тому

    kombucha is an acquired taste but homemade kombucha is soooooooo good. You can control it's sweet/sourness and use whatever flavors fit your fancy instead of the mass appeal flavors available at the store.
    I prefer peach and jalapeno or korean melon and mint or Tuna (prickly pear, not the fish) and star anise myself. I can't decide. At first I liked them sweeter but now I like them a little more on the sour side than I used to.

    • @CitySteadingBrews
      @CitySteadingBrews  3 роки тому

      I've recently tried some homemade kombucha and we're going to be doing a video on making it from a kit.

  • @rachellemazar7374
    @rachellemazar7374 2 роки тому

    Thank you! I been watching my spiced metheglin, your recipe, since October. It still hasn’t cleared but I’ll be patient now.

  • @OHanluain
    @OHanluain Рік тому

    Thanks for the video, for my first ever home brew (a cider made from fresh pressed apples from my garden), I added some campden tablets a while before adding the yeast. This was for sanitary reasons as I read it was best practice. Almost a week later and it’s going well, plenty of airlock activity. My question is this; should I worry that by adding the campden I removed some of the complex flavour the fresh juice had to begin with? Thanks for all these videos I’ve learned a hell of a lot and gained a new hobby because of them. Sláinte!

    • @waynesorensen7071
      @waynesorensen7071 Рік тому

      from what i have learned, it shouldnt affect the taste at all and will dissipate by the end of the brew, at the latest! but very important to put it in if you're using fresh fruit, for sure!

  • @andrewlutton4684
    @andrewlutton4684 4 роки тому

    With beer brewing, as you probably know, gelatin is used to clear beer. Works brilliantly, very much like using egg whites to clear a broth/ consommé. Easy and natural and, as far as my simple taste buds can tell, keeps the flavour. Not for vegetarians though.

  • @mkme2358
    @mkme2358 3 роки тому +1

    My friend told me to filter and I did and I found my cider tasted less flavorful and more boring.