Stranded MB ZETROS 4x4 - Grand Tour EXMO - Mud Free for the Truck, finally!
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2023
- #zetros #vanlife #exmo
They still have the winch. It's a tough WARN winch, capable of pulling up to 18,000 pounds. But having a winch is no good if you can't anchor it anywhere, as the saying goes.
As the lieutenant failed to familiarize himself with the spare tire holder's workings, he couldn't manage to crank it down. He decides to unscrew the tire while it's still in position, hoping not to be crushed by it, relying on his reflexes. Meanwhile, for the past hour, Robin, the young scout rover, has been digging a large hole across the track, measuring 1.5 meters by 1.5 meters and 0.5 meters deep. The excavation amounts to 1.125 cubic meters of earth. During the short night, the lieutenant came up with the idea to bury the spare tire as a sort of an earth anchor. After all, it weighs 300 kilograms and has a diameter of about 1.4 meters. If buried deep enough, it should offer significant resistance for the winch. However, just getting it rolled forward over the hill from its position behind the truck requires the lieutenant to shovel a ramp; otherwise, the guys won't manage. The efforts of the past days have taken a toll on them. The loops of the recovery straps don't align precisely with the bottom of the tire when it falls into the pit. Under tension, the tire twists, causing the lifting strap to be on top. The soft sandy ground can't withstand the force, and the tire gets pulled out. Back to one says the lieutenant, starting all over again. The tire needs to be completely pulled out first, the loops repositioned, and more ramps need to be dug at the truck's front while placing boards underneath the tires. With God's help and after a long struggle, they will finally succeed in freeing the truck!
To make things clear about this situation: It was really bad luck! We were trying to find a passage between 2 highland roads and an Icelandic Ranger advised us to drive there - by saying: "yes, it's possible on the track and this truck goes anywhere anyways.."
But track conditions became worse - as I stayed on this desolate way - I got stuck. The track WAS already in a devastation condition, I did stay on this track as I didn't want to off road it to pass the impassable part..
No signal for mobile phones - and nobody since 2 days around..! What was our options?
So we dug it out for 4 days and turned around..
Shovel and wood we brought back to the shelter plus a good amount of alcohol we deposited there..
I completely respect nature - in this case we just worked on a track that was destroyed before!
Btw: 250m ahead the track ended anyways at impassable rivers..
Meanwhile new Volcano eruptions will straighten things out anyway..
Btw to think about: In Iceland, they had strict rules against leaving the marked paths or going off-road. Which is good. But then, right next to those regulated trails, a mountain would just nonchalantly burp out millions of tons of lava, wiping out entire valleys! It makes me question the whole notion of proportionality - where's the fairness in that, I wonder.
And if that wasn't enough, I cannot help but think about emissions. They were always telling people to save fuel and be eco-friendly, yet at the same time, this volcano was belching out massive amounts of sulfur dioxide and CO2 into the stratosphere, causing darkness over the northern hemisphere. It was a real irony - talk about proportionality gone out the window! - Авто та транспорт
What a disgrace! Have you ever thought about calling the Icelandic SAR for help before destroying the track? I hope you have at least repaired the track after your carnage?
yes that was the idea, but no cellphone-signal .. so what was the option.. the track was in very bad condition before, we just freed the truck with minimal damage to the surroundings.
@@peteruppertmaybe just MAYBE don't go that routes with your heavy truck destroying beautiful nature
I’m operating the truck on 13 tons as it’s not completely filled with water, diesel and gear. On the 16.00R20 tires and deflated down to 2.0bars, a tire has a contact area on the ground of 0,3 square meters - all tires together 1,2 square meters. So the pressure on the ground is 1,08kg/cm² which is not so bad. Also is the width of the truck 2,5m which is about the same or less as the heavily modified Icelandic super jeeps! The truck is neither too heavy nor too wide for F-roads!
And again to make things clear about the STUCK situation: It was really bad luck! We were trying to find a passage between 2 highland roads and consulted an Icelandic Ranger. He advised us to drive there - by saying: “Yes, it's possible on the track and this truck goes anywhere anyways.."
But track conditions became worse - still drivable, no problem. But finally as we stayed on this way - we got stuck suddenly. The track on this particular part WAS already in a devastation condition, still I did stay on this track as I didn't want to off road it to pass the impassable part..
No signal for mobile phones - and nobody since 2 days around..! What was our options?
So we dug the truck out (took us 4 days, step by step) and turned around..
Shovel and wood we brought back to the shelter where we borrowed it from plus a good amount of alcohol we deposited there as a kind of payment to whom it may concern..
I completely respect nature - in this case we just worked on a track that was destroyed before!
Btw: 250m ahead the track ended at impassable rivers, so it was a dead end anyways..
Was this necessary?
Absolutely not! it was really bad luck!
In the beginning, an Icelandic Ranger specifically guided us to take this path when we inquired about a route connecting two highland roads. He provided clear instructions to follow this route. Additionally, it's important to emphasize that we never ventured into off-road driving.
So, let me emphasize again: following our map, we naturally adhered to designated trails, which were further marked by wooden posts. Nonetheless, there were several locations where these wooden markers were missing. In such cases, we followed existing tracks on the terrain, essentially driving in areas where previous vehicles had traversed. Interestingly, as we progressed, additional markers would reappear. The landscape in the glacier region undergoes continuous changes due to river flows. Iceland might want to consider either closing off these routes or providing more visible signage to prevent people from getting disoriented or lost.
yes that was the idea, but no cellphone-signal .. so what was the option.. the track was in very bad condition before, we just freed the truck with minimal damage to the surroundings.@@martijnveenman5129
How about not going where you dont belong?
@@peteruppert The ranger never mentioned that this vehicle was too big for the nature and the roads? And the tires are too narrow, you need a lot wider tires to carry a truck like that in the Icelandic highlands.
@@Wisurrivplot twist: there was no ranger
На Урале бы колёса спустил и выехал 😄
Ни в коем случае не хотел вас обидеть. Зетрос - прекрасный вездеход. Но система централизованной подкачки шин - очень сильный инструмент. И на всех вездеходах Урал она установлена по-умолчанию.
I've travelled Iceland's F-roads quite often, usually in a Landrover Defender. I've also driven MAN KATs off-road on military training grounds in Germany and abroad. The choice of vehicle for travelling is at your own liberty, as long as its use complies with regulations in Iceland. Based on the information you provide this appears to have been the case. I'm also well aware that sometimes one is just unlucky. However, it is more than obvious that a 13-ton Zetros is grossly oversized for Iceland. Ground pressure is an ambivalent argument. A Leopard II A7 battle tank can claim an even lower ground pressure (mass per square cm) than the Zetros. Forget about the irony - this incident certainly hasn't helped the reputation of tourists driving "off-road" vehicles with the local population. It may well trigger even stricter regulations at the national level which will affect an entire body of tourists to Iceland, not just yourself. Apart from all this, it was more than unnecessary to advertise your controversial experience by uploading this video to UA-cam. You've done the community a bad service ...
At least a voice that stands out from the general and undifferentiated storm of criticism! And yes, it was just bad luck and unforeseeable that we got stuck at that spot. (By the way, this wouldn't have happened if we had departed from the already heavily rutted path and driven on the vegetation cover next to it - which we didn't do due to regulations!)
Unfortunately, there was no mobile network, and otherwise, there was no chance to get help. So, we had to dig ourselves out. The truck has a ground pressure of 1.08 kg/square centimeter at 2 bar tire pressure, which is not even bad! And no, the truck is not oversized either. All the tracks were very drivable, and there were no other problems. By the way, some of the Icelandic 'Superjeeps' are even wider than 2.5m!
Wenigstens mal eine Stimme, die sich abhebt vom allgemeinen undifferenzierten ShitStorm! Und ja, es war einfach Pech und nicht vorhersehbar, dass wir uns an dieser Stelle festfuhren. (Was übrigens nicht passiert wäre, hätten wir den bereits maximal zerfurchten Weg verlassen und wären daneben auf der Pflanzendecke gefahren - was wir nicht taten aufgrund der Bestimmungen!)
Dummerweise kein Mobilfunknetz und auch sonst keine Chance, Hilfe zu holen. Also Freigraben. Der Truck hat einen Bodendruck von 1,08kg/Quadratzentimeter bei 2Bar Reifendruck, das ist nichtmal so schlecht! Und nein, der Truck ist auch nicht oversized. Sämtliche Pisten waren sehr gut befahrbar, es gab sonst keinerlei Probleme. Übrigens: Einige der isländischen 'Superjeeps' sind sogar breiter als 2,5m!
@@peteruppert Stop whining about you being criticised, you do stupid shit, you put it on youtube, you get shit on. Wasnt that the intention?
Well I guess you can learn something every day
yes we did!
Вы под трос траншею не выкопали, поэтому колесо и выдернуло из ямы.
They still have the winch. It's a tough WARN winch, capable of pulling up to 18,000 pounds. But having a winch is no good if you can't anchor it anywhere, as the saying goes.
As the lieutenant failed to familiarize himself with the spare tire holder's workings, he couldn't manage to crank it down. He decides to unscrew the tire while it's still in position, hoping not to be crushed by it, relying on his reflexes. Meanwhile, for the past hour, Robin, the young scout rover, has been digging a large hole across the track, measuring 1.5 meters by 1.5 meters and 0.5 meters deep. The excavation amounts to 1.125 cubic meters of earth. During the short night, the lieutenant came up with the idea to bury the spare tire as a sort of an earth anchor. After all, it weighs 300 kilograms and has a diameter of about 1.4 meters. If buried deep enough, it should offer significant resistance for the winch. However, just getting it rolled forward over the hill from its position behind the truck requires the lieutenant to shovel a ramp; otherwise, the guys won't manage. The efforts of the past days have taken a toll on them. The loops of the recovery straps don't align precisely with the bottom of the tire when it falls into the pit. Under tension, the tire twists, causing the lifting strap to be on top. The soft sandy ground can't withstand the force, and the tire gets pulled out. Back to one says the lieutenant, starting all over again. The tire needs to be completely pulled out first, the loops repositioned, and more ramps need to be dug at the truck's front while placing boards underneath the tires. With God's help and after a long struggle, they will finally succeed in freeing the truck!
Hi Pete, it was a bit easier in the 80. All the best. Cheers, Eric.
Hi Eric! You speak words of great wisdom
Самое обидное в этой ситуации то, что это была не та дорога, которая нужна, она вела в тупик. Но ничего, вы справились, молодцы! Интересно, сколько весит в сборе заднее запасное колесо. В одиночку его похоже что не поднять.
Дополнительное колесо весит около 250 кг, нет шансов поднять его, но мы смогли опустить стойку, чтобы его установить! Спасибо за ваш комментарий - вы абсолютно правы!
Habt ihr keine Bleche am Start?
die liegen zuhause.. kennt man doch vor der Abfahrt: "ach was- wozu braucht man die.."
Welchen Reifendruck seid ihr gefahren?@@peteruppert
And all the nerves for still making a video !! Great - thank you
😭
Mantap
I am curious, Did you end up paying a fine for this breach of Icelandic laws?
Help me again Sir: What law did we break? Remember: We didn't drive off road, we didn't drive on closed roads. We got stuck on an F-road and digged out the vehicle. What else?
300 kilograms?
the iron rim is very heavy and the 16.00R20 tire as well
Wäre es nicht besser im unverdichteten Bereich neben dem Weg zu graben oder gleich einen stabilen Erdanker mitzunehmen ,der sich selbst eingräbt ? Nur so ein Gedanke .
richtiger gedanke! next time
That's funny!!! This is not a Soviet URAL!!! Didn't go on uneven ground.
Die gesamte Action mit dem Resevereifen war um sonst, sehe ich das richtig?
nein, beim 2. Versuch klappte es doch, sieht man im Video!
Si cavas un poco mas encuentras ORO...
hihi - there was no gold - only mud, mud, mud - and then water..
Too tall. The leverage on one side must me massive.
I’m operating the truck on 13 tons as it’s not completely filled with water, diesel and gear. On the 16.00R20 tires and deflated down to 2.0bars, a tire has a contact area on the ground of 0,3 square meters - all tires together 1,2 square meters. So the pressure on the ground is 1,08kg/cm² which is not so bad. Also is the width of the truck 2,5m which is about the same or less as the heavily modified Icelandic super jeeps! The truck is neither too heavy nor too wide for F-roads!
Das mit dem Ersatzrad funktioniert erst richtig wenn man einen schmalen Graben für das Seil zieht so daß der Refen nicht aus dem Loch sondern gegen die Erde gezogen wird.
Haben das so gemacht, selbst bei unserem relativ leichten Unimog hat es nur so funktioniert.
PS: der Gurt muß dazu so um das Rad geschlungen werden daß er in der Mitte des Rades rauskommt, dann ist es auch nicht so wichtig ob das oben oder unten ist, auf die paar Zentimeter kommt es nicht mehr drauf an.
schon klar, das haben wir dann auch rausgefunden, wie du sicher bemerktest..
Oder das Ersatzrad flach vergraben mit ca 1m Erde drüber.
Wie du schon schriebst muss das Seil einen Kanal haben. 👍
Video looks set up to me....as in, fake, he wasn't stuck
not at all my dear!! all this happened in real!
if you followed the previous episodes, you will realize: it's REAL!!
Danke
3:20 for anchor use a T-type trench, not a I-type. And the rope need to fix down the anchor, not the top. And for 6 tons and soft soil need more deep trench
try and error..
there is always a gap between theory and praxis..
truck is 14t, winch pulls 8t, rope: sure on the bottom - but it's not easy to calculate while rolling the wheel into the trench.. was sideways on 1st attempt, so the wheel turned and rope came to the top as so can see in the video. 2nd try was better as the rope came to the bottom and so it worked..
Better yet; don't get yourself in a situation like that - it seems that your common sense was significantly outweighed by your vehicle, that track and the delicate landscape is clearly not suitable for this vehicle.
How about you just call the SAR instead of destroying the track and have the professionals get you out
Leute dieser Ansatz war gut, hätte ich von Anfang an versucht.
Nur das Loch für das Rad versenken, mit leichtem Winkel nach vorne Graben.
Dann hättet ihr das Rad eingraben und den Sand feststampfen müssen.
Ihr wollet Arbeit sparen und seit dafür bestraft worden.
PS: ihr hättet auch vom Rad aus ein Schmale schrage Rinne für das Seil graben sollen, damit das Rad nicht nach oben gezogen wird.
Das war der Knackpunkt.
ja dieses Rad (300kg) einzugraben ist zunächst eine Überwindung, und mit sehr viel Mühe verbunden. Erstmal versucht man alles andere.. Das problem war auch wirklich der unglaublich weiche Boden dieses feuchten Lavastaub-Materials.. Die Gurte lagen 90° seitlich an am Rad, als es im Loch lag. Dadurch drehte sich das Rad, und die Gurte waren dann oben. Der Weiche Boden gab dann sofort nach, als 8Tonnen Windenkraft am Rad zerrten.. Beim 2. Versuch befestigten wir mehrere Gurte versetzt am Rad, sodass wir den Gurt, der dann ganz unten sass, mit der Winch befestigten.. Das funktionierte dann..!
@@peteruppert
Der lose Sand ist keine Endschuldigung, damit zieht man sich auch im losesten Sand in der Wüste raus.
Das Hauptproblem war die falsche Gurtbefestigung und wie der Gurt aus dem Loch läuft.
Sicher 300 kg sind kein Pappenstiel, aber gleich von Anfang so richtig gemacht hätte euch viel Arbeit gespart.
Wie auch immer, über diese Erfahrung, darüber können die Beteiligten ein Leben lang am Lagerfeuer reden.
Horrido die Gams, was kost die Welt.
Dein alter Toyota war nicht so schwer...
Die Schlaufe um die Oberseite des Reifens wurde falsch gelegt dadurch wurde er hautsächlich gehoben anstatt zu verkanten, der Schlupf muss auf der Abgewandten Seite obendrüber in Richtung Fahrzeug gelegt werden.
bestimmt hast du Recht.. beim 2. mal gings aber auch so:)
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Sehr gutes Video, mega Fahrzeug, doch am besten ist das Pixeltarn
Design! Spricht für guten Geschmack😊
ja vielen Dank - ich hasse diese Weissware/Champignon Camper, solcherlei Fahrzeuge zerstören das gesamte Landschaftsbild :)
good deal
You need to engineer a safer way to drop your spare tire.
truu
Endlich mal ein Festfahr- und Bergevideo, das den Namen auch verdient. Nicht wie die ganzen Valnlifer,
bei denen schon ein durchdrehendes Rad das Drama für eine halbe Stunde Video liefert.
Top gemacht.
danke Bruder!
coolen IVECO hast du da!
@@peteruppert Danke! Das wichtige ist das reisen 😀
absolut! unterwegs sein in jeder hinsicht:)@@ALFIVECO-AW
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Super ihr seid frei Mensch wir sind doch Nachbarn Friedberg super 👍👍
mega!!
krasse Geschichte…gut das wieder horizontale Lage…
aber noch nicht zu Ende.. Is ja ne Sackgasse, wir müssen wohl oder übel drehen und zurück..
Uff, endlich raus aus dem Loch. Hoffentlich war es dass. Allerdings sieht der weitere Verlauf des Weges vom Boden her nicht viel besser aus. Fuer uns "Zuschauer " bleibt es spannend. Fuer euch sicherlich keine schoene Situation
gut erkannt! der ganze 'Weg' stellt sich als 'Sackgasse' heraus.. Also RETOUR!!!
@@peteruppertzurück durch die Furchen die ihr zwangsläufig "gezogen" habt? Da braucht's ja vorher eine Planierraupe zur Bodenverdichtung :-(. Zum Glück seid ihr Strom mäßig autark und Diesel hoffentlich auch noch genug an Bord zum fahren und heizen. Und Wasser hoffentlich auch noch genug da. Wenn der Kühlschrank leer wird, sinkt vermutlich die Stimmung. Wir drücken weiter die Daumen
danke - wir haben noch genügend Vino dabei.. Sonst wärs hart:)) @@markuswissing3994
Привет из России. Мы каждый день так ездим с дома на работу и обратно. Детей в садик возим. Главное не боятся и проходить ходом а не сбрасывать газ. Пару тройку траншей и будите не боятся вовремя газу поддать.
Да, я знаю, в России ездят жёстко, но эта почва отличается. Это ледниковый песчаник с тонким пылевидным песком, очень мягким грунтом, и грузовик тут же проваливается, и протектор шин сразу забивается. Если здесь оставаться на газу, то не будет движения вперёд, только погружение глубже, пока грузовик не сядет снизу на дно!
@@peteruppert приезжайте к нам на Южный Урал с семьёй и вашим грузовиком. Здесь есть много красивых мест. Доступных для разной техники.
@@peteruppert когда ты уже сел. То без разницы уже какой грунт. Тяжёлый грузовик будет рыть вниз. Пока не провалится к гномам в подземелье)))))
А грунт этот скорее всего песок с торфом.
Awesome idea 👍
Good job guys
Thank you! Cheers!
Spannendes Video - Top 👍 zum Glück ist am Fahrzeug und bei Euch alles okay.
danke! ja, wir kamen da schliesslich raus mit kleineren Schäden nur.. also nochmal gutgegangen..
Hey hey😊. Sorry I was not able to row you on my car 😊😊😅😅😂😂. You are always welcome to Iceland 😊. Enjoy your journey.. 🤗🌍
Next time!
Hvaða kjaftæði er þetta?
Bjóða þessari ógeðslegu karlrembu aftur til Íslands.
Algjör skömm að maður þurfi að lifa meðal fólks eins og þér.
Finnst þér bara í lagi að einhverjir erlendir aðilar koma til okkar lands bara til að rústa því?
Ef þú værir með eitthvað vit myndirðu sjá að þessi maður ætti að sæta sektum og banni frá Íslandi.
..and to make things clear about this situation: It was really bad luck! We were trying to find a passage between 2 highland roads and an Icelandic Ranger advised us to drive there - by saying: "yes, it's possible on the traxk and this truck goes anywhere anyways.." But track conditions became worse - even before there was no poles more to see, but tracks from cars we followed.. finally as I stayed on the desolate way (I should have driven on the side - then I wasn't stuck initially) - I got stuck. No signal for mobile phones - and noboys snice 2 days around..! What was our options? So we digged it out for 4 days and turned around.. Shovel and wood we brought back to the shelter plus a good amount of alcohol we placed there.. I completely respect nature - in this case we just worked on a track that was destroyed before! btw: 250m ahed the track ended anyways buy impassable rivers..
@@peteruppert I know you did no do anything wrong 😉. There are always people who complain about anything 😉
The Icelandic media is trying to make a big drama out of this. All I can see is an honest attempt to get the car loose with minimal damage to the surroundings.
this is actually true!
This is a fragile ecosystem, Icelandic people know very well not to do these sorts of things yet dumb idiots like this keep coming to our country and getting there trucks stuck or tearing up nature that will take more than a 100 years to recover, Icelandic media is not the problem dumb turists like this are the problem
I’m operating the truck on 13 tons as it’s not completely filled with water, diesel and gear. On the 16.00R20 tires and deflated down to 2.0bars, a tire has a contact area on the ground of 0,3 square meters - all tires together 1,2 square meters. So the pressure on the ground is 1,08kg/cm² which is not so bad. Also is the width of the truck 2,5m which is about the same or less as the heavily modified Icelandic super jeeps! The truck is neither too heavy nor too wide for F-roads!
no off-road experience. it was necessary to roll it out first with flat tires if the ground is soft. and then drive in at speed. and a hole from the wheel was dug right across the road, now other drivers who drive there will fall into it. You could have dug it on the side of the road.
tried everything before.. the road ended few hundred meters later, so no harm with the hole..