I am only now learning that current Commander deck packaging has a pull tab on the bottom and I _don't_ have to tear the top apart like a rabid wolverine. Also for the sake of further data, I've opened one of these and got an Art Deco frame Masked Bandits and an extended-art Undercover Operative, both foil.
See mine was closer to the dollar value of your last pack, I also had to explain to my brother, who has not played Magic since he was a child and assumed a putting a single booster pack in a precon was a very normal thing, that no they don't include boosters normally. Then I had to explain that this was not a full booster. Then I had to explain collector's packs. By the end, we were both severely unimpressed.
These packs are fine add-ons but I'd much rather they just put the damn tri-land in each deck rather than have this gambling thing. And your pulls were awesome, all of mine were stuff like queza and the commander deck cards that are all pennies at this point
(Opens foil full-art in pack #2, then non-foil full art of the same card in pack #5, mentions statistics) Kathleen: “That’s not how statistics work.” Graham: “Regression to the mean?” Kathleen: “That’s NOT regression to the mean!”
I had Xanders lounge and the raccoons as well, so far from what I've seen the trims are quite frequent, in exactly that alt style, but i have a very small sample size as well.
7:32 It encourages other players to attack other players with tapped creatures as well. Also, the player who sits 3 places away from you gets the short end of the stick, since the other 2 players gets to untap and attack, while the last player have to attack into untapped creatures(probably)
Kros seems like an interesting commander, as it allows you to goad while protecting the opposing creature from things like death touch or just general damage, so you can reuse them on the next turn. Throw in a couple ways to repeat that ability and you have a very interesting form of board control
Extended art versions of cards from the set itself were always available in foil, it's specifically the extended art versions of particular cards from the Commander decks (or cards released under the auspices of that set symbol, but not actually in the decks) that don't appear in foil (depending on the set, they've switched things around a few times).
Not sure what to think about this addition to the Commander decks. They have already shown that they can make Commander decks cost $20 MSRP, but $50 (up 10 from Neon Dynasty) just for a chance at added value seems price gouging.
Well... that's cause it is price gouging WotC is gonna bleed as much out of players as they can get away with Not that that's unique ti them, it's how companies work Maximize profits
I had a theory (that was debunked by the third pack) that each Commander deck has an in-colour "preview," but the double Jund pack ruled that out. Still interesting that both cards could still slot into the same deck, though: Selesnya land and a Naya land, red creature and a Jund creature, Jund creature and a Jund land, Gruul land and a red creature, Selesnya land and a Bant creature.
Foil, showcase, extended art, full art, and I know that's far from all possible extra-rare card variants. Is there a list of some sort somewhere and does it say how rare the things are? So we know how impressed to be? Cause I've been lost since the hieroglyph font thing.
I also hadn't heard of these packs before buying my Bedecked Brokers deck but oh boy did I get value. I opened a Foil Golden Age Frame Cabaretti Charm (and your probably thinking that's ok but nothing nice enough to rave about) but also a non-foil extended art Bootlegger's Stash :P I was pretty happy with my little bonus pack of paying for most of my deck upgrades.
@@JamesSamson487 ye it was the alt art variation in extended art too (forgot to mention the alt art bit) but ye it was funny because I had already pre-ordered a regular one so then just sold that one which made the deck effectively free, so that was nice.
Mr. Orfeo has a mallet? I thought it was a giant shaving razor. You know, for shaving enemy Capenna furries. Just imagine how electable Civil Servant would be if she was suddenly a Sphynx cat. Politics!
As an advertisment they're pretty crappy, all they did was make me even more sure I don't want to pay 30 bucks for a booster pack of 15 cards, some of which are just standard legal commons. As a free add in to a commander product it's a bonus you can have it.
You want statistical weirdness, I opened two of the new commander decks and got an extended art Bennie Bracks in one and a foil extended art Bennie Bracks in another and for a moment I was like do these packs just have him in them.
I think i have to grab a Kros to build a solo hug deck. You literally play as another player's defense attorney. Like group hug but you attach yourself to one player
i remember that they did that for other decks instead of box topper packs they did like full on draft booster packs back in the dragons maze block for the starter decks
I got a foil Life Insurance (Commander card) from my foil Promo Pack for winning the draft at my LGS a couple of weeks back, & apparently it’s around a $20 card b/c the only way to open many of the SoNC Commander cards in foil is to open one from the FOIL LGS Promo Packs.
Unrelated to the pack can I just voice my enthusiastic support for the paper deckboxes, when I got mine for the AFR deckbox I thought it was kinda brilliant how they work
This is such a massive scam by wizards. I really wish they didn’t sell well to prove a point. Maybe it is too soon to be worried, but I don’t want these precons to start costing $55.
I'm uncertain on how I feel about the SEALED PRODUCT - NOT FOR RESALE limited environment
It says right there that it’s for sealed. Makes sense, it would be very awkward to draft.
I would like to see someone try though.
I'm pretty [EMOTION] about it, I think [CARD NAME] is basically a auto first pick though, kinda format warping.
I am only now learning that current Commander deck packaging has a pull tab on the bottom and I _don't_ have to tear the top apart like a rabid wolverine.
Also for the sake of further data, I've opened one of these and got an Art Deco frame Masked Bandits and an extended-art Undercover Operative, both foil.
I mean, you can still open it that way, no one can stop you
foil art deco rakish revelers and nonfoil extended boxing ring
that pringling right out of the pack though- peak collector's booster experience
Yay, Tuesday evening, time for Graham-Crackers, as I affectionally call the format. Because I'm sure nobody's ever made that joke ever.
well i'd never thought of it.
Nice, 2 of the tricycle lands.
See mine was closer to the dollar value of your last pack, I also had to explain to my brother, who has not played Magic since he was a child and assumed a putting a single booster pack in a precon was a very normal thing, that no they don't include boosters normally. Then I had to explain that this was not a full booster. Then I had to explain collector's packs. By the end, we were both severely unimpressed.
They used to! My Theros Intro Pack had two Theros Draft Boosters in it.
You missed the Prof's rant about the collector booster sample packs, I guess
They're fine as a "bonus", the problem is the packaging seems very purposefully unclear about them not being actual regular collector's boosters.
These packs are fine add-ons but I'd much rather they just put the damn tri-land in each deck rather than have this gambling thing.
And your pulls were awesome, all of mine were stuff like queza and the commander deck cards that are all pennies at this point
Useful to know: these are still included in the reduced-packaging versions that Amazon sells in just a compact cardboard box.
(Opens foil full-art in pack #2, then non-foil full art of the same card in pack #5, mentions statistics)
Kathleen: “That’s not how statistics work.”
Graham: “Regression to the mean?”
Kathleen: “That’s NOT regression to the mean!”
Engagement: my obscura commander deck had a showcase foil tramway station with an extended border Kros in its 2 card pack.
I had Xanders lounge and the raccoons as well, so far from what I've seen the trims are quite frequent, in exactly that alt style, but i have a very small sample size as well.
Looking forward to that "Not for resale" draft.
7:32 It encourages other players to attack other players with tapped creatures as well. Also, the player who sits 3 places away from you gets the short end of the stick, since the other 2 players gets to untap and attack, while the last player have to attack into untapped creatures(probably)
As long time viewer of Mailtime, I just wanted to say that Graham did a fine job with that pull tab.
As someone who comes here in large part for the pack opening ASMR, this was a quality entry in the series
These are neat, though I'd rather they just have the $30 commander decks they had in Kaldhiem/ Zendikar Rising.
Kros seems like an interesting commander, as it allows you to goad while protecting the opposing creature from things like death touch or just general damage, so you can reuse them on the next turn. Throw in a couple ways to repeat that ability and you have a very interesting form of board control
Yours seem so nice! We opened four as a friend group and everything was just bad!
Best ratio of pack opening noises to cards. I heartily approve.
For engagement: I got a foil showcase Obscura Interceptor and a borderless Rabble Rousing, I wish they had just given us the triomes.
Extended art versions of cards from the set itself were always available in foil, it's specifically the extended art versions of particular cards from the Commander decks (or cards released under the auspices of that set symbol, but not actually in the decks) that don't appear in foil (depending on the set, they've switched things around a few times).
Ooh, a new card for the Catmander deck!
Health be with you Graham.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with a badly glued deck box from New Capenna XD
the commander boxes are awful. the lids on all 5 of mine are coming apart.
I got a foil borderless Kitt Kanto and a foil tapped dual in the art deco style from my Brokers deck
Not sure what to think about this addition to the Commander decks. They have already shown that they can make Commander decks cost $20 MSRP, but $50 (up 10 from Neon Dynasty) just for a chance at added value seems price gouging.
Well... that's cause it is price gouging
WotC is gonna bleed as much out of players as they can get away with
Not that that's unique ti them, it's how companies work
Maximize profits
I had a theory (that was debunked by the third pack) that each Commander deck has an in-colour "preview," but the double Jund pack ruled that out.
Still interesting that both cards could still slot into the same deck, though: Selesnya land and a Naya land, red creature and a Jund creature, Jund creature and a Jund land, Gruul land and a red creature, Selesnya land and a Bant creature.
My Maestros deck had in its sample pack...
Anhelo, the Painter
... at least he was full-art, I guess?
No foil though.
Prof. went over these packs on his "Is it worth it to buy..." vid for this Commander product batch.
Foil, showcase, extended art, full art, and I know that's far from all possible extra-rare card variants. Is there a list of some sort somewhere and does it say how rare the things are? So we know how impressed to be? Cause I've been lost since the hieroglyph font thing.
Am I the only one who thought of “The Boulder” from ATLA at instant speed as Orfeo popped up on the screen? 😂
I also hadn't heard of these packs before buying my Bedecked Brokers deck but oh boy did I get value. I opened a Foil Golden Age Frame Cabaretti Charm (and your probably thinking that's ok but nothing nice enough to rave about) but also a non-foil extended art Bootlegger's Stash :P I was pretty happy with my little bonus pack of paying for most of my deck upgrades.
A Bootleggers Stash?! SERIOUSLY?!
I got a Face-Breaker, but still…
@@JamesSamson487 ye it was the alt art variation in extended art too (forgot to mention the alt art bit) but ye it was funny because I had already pre-ordered a regular one so then just sold that one which made the deck effectively free, so that was nice.
"Professional Face-Breaker" is something I'm sure I'll be called soon.
Pretty funny that you didn't open the obscura triland at all when that was the commander box you opened on camers
When I cracked my commander deck sample packs, I also got a double of an extended art card, also in foil and nonfoil. Was very weird!
i pulled a foil skyscraper edition of raffine's tower from my packs but nothing else of worth.
I also opened 5 of these, but none of mine had any of the tri lands.
Mr. Orfeo has a mallet? I thought it was a giant shaving razor. You know, for shaving enemy Capenna furries. Just imagine how electable Civil Servant would be if she was suddenly a Sphynx cat. Politics!
“So when you say shaving a bit off the top, you mean embezzlement, right? … right?”
my decadence was the collector booster boxes, but pulled so many cmdr cards from them I can almost reconstruct the decks lol
I got a fecebreaker too. Thats in half of the sample packs ive seen open.
Engagement, I got a tri land and a borderless boardwipe
I opened a full art Bootlegger's Stash in one of my Showcase Sample packs
As an advertisment they're pretty crappy, all they did was make me even more sure I don't want to pay 30 bucks for a booster pack of 15 cards, some of which are just standard legal commons. As a free add in to a commander product it's a bonus you can have it.
That's why you never buy them for 30, Amazon has them for 20
They aren't worth it at 20 either.
You want statistical weirdness, I opened two of the new commander decks and got an extended art Bennie Bracks in one and a foil extended art Bennie Bracks in another and for a moment I was like do these packs just have him in them.
I think i have to grab a Kros to build a solo hug deck. You literally play as another player's defense attorney. Like group hug but you attach yourself to one player
"Anyway ACHOO!, Anyway."
My two card pack had a Botanical Plaza and a Foil Full Art… Gala Greeters.
What's in the box?!?
What's in the box?
Engagement.
If you put Masked Bandits on a Forest you end up with some Bandit Tree.
i remember that they did that for other decks instead of box topper packs they did like full on draft booster packs back in the dragons maze block for the starter decks
I feel like you got pretty good ones, my rare was evolving door.
That's a lot of tricycles
I got a borderless triome in my sample pack so I was very happy.
I got a foil Life Insurance (Commander card) from my foil Promo Pack for winning the draft at my LGS a couple of weeks back, & apparently it’s around a $20 card b/c the only way to open many of the SoNC Commander cards in foil is to open one from the FOIL LGS Promo Packs.
I suppose the cards in the sampler always match the commander deck's colour? It seems quite the coincidence otherwise
Didn't you also pull a Facebreaker in the normal Collector Booster?
Mine was a showcase Bootlegger's lol.
Nice of WotC to provide you with a sample of how bad their foils can curl.
Huh! These are better than I was expecting. A guaranteed rare or mythic is not a bad bonus.
Unrelated to the pack can I just voice my enthusiastic support for the paper deckboxes, when I got mine for the AFR deckbox I thought it was kinda brilliant how they work
Just here for Graham to read the word Menace
Tri-lands seemed very common for me in these packs as well (opened 2 of them, I believe).
I bought all five Commander decks as well, and got three Hoard Haulers. THREE!
This would be a prime place to use paper wrapping instead of plastic for those boosters. What a waste of packaging.
I opened 5 (the commander box set) and 2 of them contained one of the mythic commanders from those sets. Yay....
You got very lucky in your packs
Are these seeded for the colors of the deck they are included in?
Soo... are you planning to take the decks for a fnpf in the near future?
I wish mine had been non-foil. Instead they've pringled all the way up.
I got 2, one had full art Corpse explosion and a foil Masked Bandits o think, the other had one of the fancy frames Giada and done other card I forgot
Did you say "Areola extortionists"?
Crack a pack mystery! :D
What's with the ASMR in every crack-a-pack videos ?
They could have put showcase Legends in these
Wait, wasn't the point of collector boosters that all cards are foils?
I bet Graham is pleased by the amount of green cards opened
Just open the packs...
I oppened an Elspeth in my free pack.
Hail to Menachee
That's the exact land I got in my booster sample pack. the Naya land
nice new crack a pack
Gesundheit.
Na zdrowie.
Crack! A! Pack!
This is such a massive scam by wizards. I really wish they didn’t sell well to prove a point. Maybe it is too soon to be worried, but I don’t want these precons to start costing $55.
I hope they keep putting these packs in the commander decks, they’re a neat little bonus value to the deck or decks you’ve bought
Not if they are the reason for the price increase.
Ooo
Just fyi, Graham, the word "menace" is supposed to be pronounced as [ˈmɛnəs].
(the mispronunciation is on purpose)
Gesundheit.