Foggy can come off as annoying in this episode, but it's trying to show that this vigilante life isn't easy, and there are major consequences to this type of life. Foggy and Matt are lawyers, who are supposed to uphold the law, but Matt wants to take it a step further, through vigilante justice... which is above the law. Foggy in this episode is supposed to be from the perspective of a lawyer.
And add that Matt is his best friend and the person he trusts the most. And Matt is the one that pushed him to be a "good lawyer" and he ends up finding out that Matt works outside of the law.
With all the shows we watch these days, it’s so easy to say “Yeah, just kill the bad guy.” We encourage fucking murder, of all things, because it would easily solve problems. We justify lying, deception, violence, etc. because it’d make things “easier.” It’s hard to wake up from the context we are used to watching shows in. Foggy is completely right, and Matt was wrong. Learning that your closest friend, your brother, has been lying every day you’ve known him? Learning that there is this huge part of their life they’ve hidden from you, when you’ve been open, vulnerable, and honest since the beginning? That’s heartbreaking. Matt, attempting to go after Fisk with murderous intent is a betrayal of everything he is, and everything Foggy knows him to be… but now Foggy isn’t so sure anymore if he ever knew his friend at all. And it’s entirely Matt’s fault.
@@thechad4485 and i believe the show highlights that really well. matt isn't right in this situation, but we've seen his perspective on things, so we understand why
Foggy has good reason to be mad. His friend lied to him for their entire friendship and continued to lie until he got caught which showed he was likely planning to never stop lying to him. Plus Matt always played the holier than thou role in Foggy's life. He always preached this idea of sticking to the law and letting the justice system do its job and they built their firm on those principles, turning away a higher paying path in their law career to do it. Now Foggy is seeing that Matt is a liar, a hypocrite, and basically full of shit for doing the polar opposite from what he stood on his pedestal preaching for years. He's the one insisting that the law should be the way to get justice while also being a vigilante. I mean Foggy's perspective is pretty easy to see. Matt is deeply flawed and as an audience we should be able to see that so that his character development is worth something.
I feel like yall really didnt understand foggys side in the argument. Its more realistic than cool my bestfriends a superhero with powers. He has every right to feel a type of way
The Game No, it’s literally a fact. They decide what their stance is very quickly, usually based off something very small and refuse to ever change it or try to understand why someone would act a certain way. Hence lacking critical thinking and the ability to understand another’s perspective.
funny...rewatching this I realize even more that Karen who also has been traumatized was trying to reach out to her new "friends" but was blown off forcing her to deal with it herself- it's cool that all characters have flaws and conflicts
I think Foggy here is sort of bringing the audience back to reality (in a show that tries to ground this superhero stuff in reality as just ppl making choices) about what Matt is doing. Like as far as Foggy knows the masked man is a murderer. And Foggy works in law he knows all about people who say they are doing good by doing bad, like the conversation with Gao. Is Matt really doing justice by almost murdering that guy who hurt the girl? Yes the guy should be punished, but does that really protect the girl best? And like in ep 1 when beating up a guy in the first scene, Matt's been shown to get to a stagewhere he is hitting someone that is already down. Like he said to the guy he chucked off a roof, he hurts peoplebecause he likes it. The series opening conversation with the priest was about Matt being aware he was committing sin, that what he was about to do was devilish and needed forgiveness, and he was conflicted enough to talk to the priest about it, but he still went ahead and did it anyway. Fisk is kind of a mirror to Matt, he honestly thinks he is improving the city and is happy to use violence to do it, and he too has a professional, reasonable, calm mode and a lose it and hurt people mode trained into him because of childhood trauma. In this episode Matt is finally put back in contrast with someone not from that world, someone who is just a regular guy, and has been there with Matt since the day they met. Imagine this guy you love for being a singular moral voice, who you are willing to risk being poor for to follow his dream, who constantly challenges you to see the good worth fighting for, to never settle for compromise- like taking the well paying job to make change eventually because he points out (with the Bently comment) that's hypocrisy, it's selfishness cloaked in morality- that guy is suddenly in front of you possibly a murderer, but at minimum someone who can brutally harm someone else to achieve his idea of justice. It's a massive hypocrisy. And this episode is showing us how someone who only knows the non-daredevil side of Matt saw him as a hero, but sees his vigilante work as being a villain, which Matt has been trying to persuade himself isn't as it is, he's been trying to excuse the fact he likes hurting people by saying he only hurts the bad ones, that he can't do good in his normal life but he can this way. Foggy feels betrayed and humiliated because the guy he trusted most didn't trust him the same, to know someone is lying and go along with it means he's been faking oart of their friendship, he wasn't always genuine. Foggy literally was ready to spend his life working with Matt, following him wherever, always looking up to him, and now Matt tells him he can tell by breathing when Foggy wants to say something- do you know how creepily manipulative that could make all of Matt's interaction with him seem? Like, this guy knows when you're going to come over and maybe talk about something difficult, and he fakes that he doesn't know what you're really feeling, he is lying to you in some way constantly. Even the little things, like feeling for a glass or the steps when with Foggy is a deliberate performance. Matt is Foggy's best friend and partner, and he's been putting on an act most of the time he was around him, and would rather tell a complete stranger his secret than his best friend. It makes Foggy feel like the friendship wasn't real, it was just useful as Matt's cover, and nothing they had was genuine. It's also a way for the ep the show that Matt thinks he's a hero and we kind of think so too because the show is told from his persoective, but in reality, a guy that can enjoy and seek violence as much as Matt- he's not doing it purely out of duty, he's doing it as an emotional release and kind of as a self-harm mechanism sometimes- in the real world you wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Because Matt isn't God, but he's deciding he doesn't need proof beyond doubt to execute severe brutality, and what's to say he won't one day decide to kill people, because the violence has gone to his head. Daredevil is great because it shows that our hero is flawed. Foggy is one of the main ways of doing that, and personally I love him in this episode.
Your immaturity (no offense) I guess overshadowed the point of the scenes with Foggy. Matt has essentially been steering him in whatever direction he wants since they've known each other. It's like if professor X was your best friend, predicting your every movement and steering you in the direction he wants, it's invasive and a breach of trust.
@@ReptarTheUgly Remember when Matt fucked up the frank castle case? And because Nelson did so well during that trial he got offered a job at another firm
Roxxon Corp. is a large, crooked company across the Marvel Universe and comics. It has appeared in Iron Man (all of them), Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Cloak & Dagger, this series and mentioned in others
Real_Slim_Shady They are an oil and gas conglomerate with ties to The Council of Nine. Anytime there are shady business dealings with weapons, bio-weapons or wars in the MCU, just know that someone from Roxxon or their subsidiary Isodyne Energy will have a hand in it
celeste if everything didn’t need to be a big budget 2 hour movie, or a 13 episode long tv season, I would’ve wanted to see an Ironman/Aos/Daredevil crossover on taking down Roxxon
Ya made it to 800k!!! Ya'll are really the best one of my fave channels Daredevil is fire can't wait for season 2 and 3 reactions. Also when you finish season 2 you gonna watch Defedners or a recap of it ? Cause season 3 has nothing to do with how season 2 ends plot wise ya'll will be confused
I didn't like Foggy's reasoning because he acted like both sides (the law and the unlawful) aren't needed to uphold justice. He needed to understand that there's a difference between upholding "the law" and upholding "justice". Everyone and their mother knows that there are crooks that commit crimes and never get punished when facing the law. The most he could've been mad at was having been associated with a vigilante without knowing, and, even then, he's suppose to just trust Murdock to prioritize his friends' protection when the time comes (in a hostage situation or the like) because they've been friends for so long. Instead, Foggy decided to be mad at stupid things like the fact that he hadn't had the ability to lie to his best friend for all those years.
They should do at least the first seasons of the other shows too if they're gonna watch Defenders. And no, it wasn't lame, but maybe I think that because I find crossovers enjoyable.🤷♂️
@@lurkingposter why do you think it was lame ? I liked it personally and if they skip it then they'll have non context as to why Matt is acting the way he is in season 3 and there will be no resolution to the season 2 ending
@@Narutoanime16g It didn't live up to it's potential. In general, when Daredevil gets supernatural, it's at its weakest. This is true for season 1 and 2, Defenders and the comic books.
GUYS FUN FACT I STARTED WATCHING DAREDEVIL 2 DAY AGO WHEN I SAW IT IN U GUYS'S RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I SAW U HAVE REACTED UNTIL 9 EPISODE SO I CONTINUED AHEAD & TODAY I FINISHED ALL THE WAY TO SEASON 3 x 13 CAN'T WAIT 4 U GUYS 2 GO TROUGH THE SAME JOURNEY AS ME U'LL ENJOY IT. LOVE FROM KOREA. ps. NOW I'LL SEE U IN THE PUNISHER.
Foggy annoyed tf out of me but I understand his POV. He was doing the most though. I can’t wait to see how mad you get at Karen when Spoil She gets Ben killed by Fisk.
🤣🤣 It's true Foggy can be a bitch sometime. But he's not like you and me, he's a sort of faithful dog with confidence issues and so for him who has esteem issues, learning this, his issues are coming back. If it was you and me, we would not make a big thing about "what you knew when I was lying? Oh dare you!". Personally I would just be like "fucking awesome, man!".
Foggy can come off as annoying in this episode, but it's trying to show that this vigilante life isn't easy, and there are major consequences to this type of life. Foggy and Matt are lawyers, who are supposed to uphold the law, but Matt wants to take it a step further, through vigilante justice... which is above the law. Foggy in this episode is supposed to be from the perspective of a lawyer.
And add that Matt is his best friend and the person he trusts the most. And Matt is the one that pushed him to be a "good lawyer" and he ends up finding out that Matt works outside of the law.
Yeah, definitely... lawyers don’t help criminals get away with things. Lawyers are good old fashion innocent people hahah
if you want, cool my best friends as superhero, then see Ned Leeds (Ganke)
With all the shows we watch these days, it’s so easy to say “Yeah, just kill the bad guy.” We encourage fucking murder, of all things, because it would easily solve problems. We justify lying, deception, violence, etc. because it’d make things “easier.” It’s hard to wake up from the context we are used to watching shows in. Foggy is completely right, and Matt was wrong. Learning that your closest friend, your brother, has been lying every day you’ve known him? Learning that there is this huge part of their life they’ve hidden from you, when you’ve been open, vulnerable, and honest since the beginning? That’s heartbreaking. Matt, attempting to go after Fisk with murderous intent is a betrayal of everything he is, and everything Foggy knows him to be… but now Foggy isn’t so sure anymore if he ever knew his friend at all. And it’s entirely Matt’s fault.
@@thechad4485 and i believe the show highlights that really well. matt isn't right in this situation, but we've seen his perspective on things, so we understand why
Foggy has good reason to be mad. His friend lied to him for their entire friendship and continued to lie until he got caught which showed he was likely planning to never stop lying to him. Plus Matt always played the holier than thou role in Foggy's life. He always preached this idea of sticking to the law and letting the justice system do its job and they built their firm on those principles, turning away a higher paying path in their law career to do it. Now Foggy is seeing that Matt is a liar, a hypocrite, and basically full of shit for doing the polar opposite from what he stood on his pedestal preaching for years. He's the one insisting that the law should be the way to get justice while also being a vigilante. I mean Foggy's perspective is pretty easy to see. Matt is deeply flawed and as an audience we should be able to see that so that his character development is worth something.
thank you. They both are flawed
exactly
I feel like yall really didnt understand foggys side in the argument. Its more realistic than cool my bestfriends a superhero with powers. He has every right to feel a type of way
They don't understand anything that requires critical thinking or understanding another's perspective.
@@Jdubayou that's a bit much don't you think?
@@YoureRightIThink it is but then again they are very bias. Like once they think something is one way they stay with that no matter what
The Game No, it’s literally a fact. They decide what their stance is very quickly, usually based off something very small and refuse to ever change it or try to understand why someone would act a certain way. Hence lacking critical thinking and the ability to understand another’s perspective.
@@Jdubayou it's not a fact that's an opinion
Haha I knew for a fact, 100%, that they'd clown on Foggy and his stance this episode.
I was completely on Daredevil's side back then, and I still am more on his side, but Foggy did make better points in some scenarios
funny...rewatching this I realize even more that Karen who also has been traumatized was trying to reach out to her new "friends" but was blown off forcing her to deal with it herself- it's cool that all characters have flaws and conflicts
when they reference the greek girl in one of the flashbacks, it's Elektra.
I think Foggy here is sort of bringing the audience back to reality (in a show that tries to ground this superhero stuff in reality as just ppl making choices) about what Matt is doing. Like as far as Foggy knows the masked man is a murderer. And Foggy works in law he knows all about people who say they are doing good by doing bad, like the conversation with Gao. Is Matt really doing justice by almost murdering that guy who hurt the girl? Yes the guy should be punished, but does that really protect the girl best? And like in ep 1 when beating up a guy in the first scene, Matt's been shown to get to a stagewhere he is hitting someone that is already down. Like he said to the guy he chucked off a roof, he hurts peoplebecause he likes it. The series opening conversation with the priest was about Matt being aware he was committing sin, that what he was about to do was devilish and needed forgiveness, and he was conflicted enough to talk to the priest about it, but he still went ahead and did it anyway. Fisk is kind of a mirror to Matt, he honestly thinks he is improving the city and is happy to use violence to do it, and he too has a professional, reasonable, calm mode and a lose it and hurt people mode trained into him because of childhood trauma. In this episode Matt is finally put back in contrast with someone not from that world, someone who is just a regular guy, and has been there with Matt since the day they met. Imagine this guy you love for being a singular moral voice, who you are willing to risk being poor for to follow his dream, who constantly challenges you to see the good worth fighting for, to never settle for compromise- like taking the well paying job to make change eventually because he points out (with the Bently comment) that's hypocrisy, it's selfishness cloaked in morality- that guy is suddenly in front of you possibly a murderer, but at minimum someone who can brutally harm someone else to achieve his idea of justice. It's a massive hypocrisy. And this episode is showing us how someone who only knows the non-daredevil side of Matt saw him as a hero, but sees his vigilante work as being a villain, which Matt has been trying to persuade himself isn't as it is, he's been trying to excuse the fact he likes hurting people by saying he only hurts the bad ones, that he can't do good in his normal life but he can this way. Foggy feels betrayed and humiliated because the guy he trusted most didn't trust him the same, to know someone is lying and go along with it means he's been faking oart of their friendship, he wasn't always genuine. Foggy literally was ready to spend his life working with Matt, following him wherever, always looking up to him, and now Matt tells him he can tell by breathing when Foggy wants to say something- do you know how creepily manipulative that could make all of Matt's interaction with him seem? Like, this guy knows when you're going to come over and maybe talk about something difficult, and he fakes that he doesn't know what you're really feeling, he is lying to you in some way constantly. Even the little things, like feeling for a glass or the steps when with Foggy is a deliberate performance. Matt is Foggy's best friend and partner, and he's been putting on an act most of the time he was around him, and would rather tell a complete stranger his secret than his best friend. It makes Foggy feel like the friendship wasn't real, it was just useful as Matt's cover, and nothing they had was genuine. It's also a way for the ep the show that Matt thinks he's a hero and we kind of think so too because the show is told from his persoective, but in reality, a guy that can enjoy and seek violence as much as Matt- he's not doing it purely out of duty, he's doing it as an emotional release and kind of as a self-harm mechanism sometimes- in the real world you wouldn't feel comfortable with that. Because Matt isn't God, but he's deciding he doesn't need proof beyond doubt to execute severe brutality, and what's to say he won't one day decide to kill people, because the violence has gone to his head. Daredevil is great because it shows that our hero is flawed. Foggy is one of the main ways of doing that, and personally I love him in this episode.
Damn, is it wrong to feel a bit bad whenever someone gets beaten up Daredevi even if it was needed or satisfying?
Your immaturity (no offense) I guess overshadowed the point of the scenes with Foggy. Matt has essentially been steering him in whatever direction he wants since they've known each other. It's like if professor X was your best friend, predicting your every movement and steering you in the direction he wants, it's invasive and a breach of trust.
who cares, though.
Foggy can leave and go back to being useless. The only reason they won cases was because of Matt.
Jaime Ruiz that’s not true since he eventually goes to work for L&Z with his Ex girl
people are immature
@@ReptarTheUgly Remember when Matt fucked up the frank castle case? And because Nelson did so well during that trial he got offered a job at another firm
20:38 Pat farted and looked if anyone smelled it.
Yo they're freakin lawyers, this jeapordizes everything they worked for! Oh yeah and their friendship! WTF! How clueless can you be?
people are apathetic, even though I saw Foggy's side and he does have some one-ups, I sided with Daredevil
Roxxon Corp. is a large, crooked company across the Marvel Universe and comics. It has appeared in Iron Man (all of them), Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Cloak & Dagger, this series and mentioned in others
@celeste what's their motive again?
Real_Slim_Shady They are an oil and gas conglomerate with ties to The Council of Nine. Anytime there are shady business dealings with weapons, bio-weapons or wars in the MCU, just know that someone from Roxxon or their subsidiary Isodyne Energy will have a hand in it
celeste if everything didn’t need to be a big budget 2 hour movie, or a 13 episode long tv season, I would’ve wanted to see an Ironman/Aos/Daredevil crossover on taking down Roxxon
Y’all buggin, foggy had every right to be mad and y’all missed the “Greek girl” reference smh just remember the Greek girl from Spanish class.
calling foggy names and laughing at him just shows me that these guys are a bit immature for their age
Snake 🤨
Its a fictional show stfu stupid bitch
All blind people have some sort of extra level of sences its science fact
when one of your senses weakens, all the other senses grow stronger
@invincible. Yeah look it up
I highly Reccomend checking out Spartacus after Daredevil.
Its an amazing show. Top to bottom.
the greek part was a reference to an upcoming character
Ya made it to 800k!!! Ya'll are really the best one of my fave channels Daredevil is fire can't wait for season 2 and 3 reactions. Also when you finish season 2 you gonna watch Defedners or a recap of it ? Cause season 3 has nothing to do with how season 2 ends plot wise ya'll will be confused
they really clowning on foggy lmao
I didn't like Foggy's reasoning because he acted like both sides (the law and the unlawful) aren't needed to uphold justice. He needed to understand that there's a difference between upholding "the law" and upholding "justice". Everyone and their mother knows that there are crooks that commit crimes and never get punished when facing the law. The most he could've been mad at was having been associated with a vigilante without knowing, and, even then, he's suppose to just trust Murdock to prioritize his friends' protection when the time comes (in a hostage situation or the like) because they've been friends for so long. Instead, Foggy decided to be mad at stupid things like the fact that he hadn't had the ability to lie to his best friend for all those years.
@Awkward Frank 21:48 This is what Homelander needs in The Boys Season 2 and Jeri Hogarth from Jessica Jones
Keen to see your reaction to Daredevil season 2 & 3. Some of the best work
Check out Defenders before Daredevil season 3.
The plot connects Daredevil season 2&3 via The Defenders.
Fax‼️‼️
Defenders was lame. Best to skip it.
They should do at least the first seasons of the other shows too if they're gonna watch Defenders. And no, it wasn't lame, but maybe I think that because I find crossovers enjoyable.🤷♂️
@@lurkingposter why do you think it was lame ? I liked it personally and if they skip it then they'll have non context as to why Matt is acting the way he is in season 3 and there will be no resolution to the season 2 ending
@@Narutoanime16g It didn't live up to it's potential. In general, when Daredevil gets supernatural, it's at its weakest. This is true for season 1 and 2, Defenders and the comic books.
Congratulations 800K subscribers!
800k CONGRATULATION❤️✨✨
Luke Cage!! Y'all better do Luke Cage next! PLEASE!!!
At least Jessica Jones season 1 before Luke Cage, but yes.
@@therealbwells2024 was going to say, it's only good for that one scene, but you're right. that's a good intro for Luke.
@@pervysage4934 what's the one scene?
@@therealbwells2024 jessica and luke sex scene
just do the Netflixverse shows in order
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🥳
“So you KNEW she was good looking”
So that’s why all the girls that you get look good”
-probably Foggy
Ben urich is the goat🐐 and nice vid btw im reacting to daredevil, im on season 2 now😎
Can't wait for season 2 and Elektra Natchios ♥️
21:48 This is what Homelander needs in The Boys Season 2 and Jeri Hogarth from Jessica Jones
Nelson from this point on into season 2~becomes a whinny baby >.>
FOR JUSTICE
What time is yo lunch u must b in a different timezone⏰⏰ its 10am for me
Love the vid, but also where’d the basketball reactions gooooo
Im looking for people to petition for daredevil season 4 yoh can thank Netflix for canceling it
For justice
This is the episode when my appreciation for Foggy died, and I never regained it.
I’m getting really sick of that for justice shit
Just in time for my lunch break
What time is yo lunch break (timezone⏰)
Xavier Black-Wiley 11 est
Ahhh😮😮😮 east coast
800k 🤞🏾💕
Yo please watch the season 2 trailer before starting the season
It's better if they dont. They'll be more surprised.
TERRIBLE idea.
NO!! RTTV PLZ DONT WATCH THE TRAILER! IT WILL BE BETTER IF U DONT BECAUSE THEN U WILL BE MORE SURPRISED AND YOU WILL HAVE BETTER REACTIONS!!
Because it is the best trailer in the whole Netflix series not to mention the trailer doesn’t ruin anything they literally already watched punisher!
Tripz Tristan it’s actually what they always do since they watch trailers all the time.
if you are fighting for justice??
you get a pass!
i dont owe karen shit! =D
What’s a secutary?
800k nigga🎉🎊🎊🎉
For some reason it always gets me lol'd whnever this comes 13:59
The foggy/identity bs is definitely probably the worst thing in the whole series. Everything else is 🔥
@SilVer Her0 21:48 This is what Homelander needs in The Boys Season 2 and Jeri Hogarth from Jessica Jones
FOR VIOLENCE
GUYS FUN FACT I STARTED WATCHING DAREDEVIL 2 DAY AGO WHEN I SAW IT IN U GUYS'S RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I SAW U HAVE REACTED UNTIL 9 EPISODE SO I CONTINUED AHEAD & TODAY I FINISHED ALL THE WAY TO SEASON 3 x 13 CAN'T WAIT 4 U GUYS 2 GO TROUGH THE SAME JOURNEY AS ME U'LL ENJOY IT. LOVE FROM KOREA. ps. NOW I'LL SEE U IN THE PUNISHER.
Holy cow how can you watch that much??? What's your favorite season?
@@Whateveridksomething @wilson fisk I loved them all but SEASON 2 & 3 was the top one for me it was awesome
@@지넬제이세자르 yeah most people love season 3 the most and 2 the least, my ranking is
2
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Foggy annoyed tf out of me but I understand his POV. He was doing the most though. I can’t wait to see how mad you get at Karen when
Spoil
She gets Ben killed by Fisk.
21:48 This is what Homelander needs in The Boys Season 2 and Jeri Hogarth from Jessica Jones
I messaged you on Instagram but you didn't replied
Do Luke cage next u lots
React to Snyder Cut please 🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️ Love y'all
where is GOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤣🤣 It's true Foggy can be a bitch sometime. But he's not like you and me, he's a sort of faithful dog with confidence issues and so for him who has esteem issues, learning this, his issues are coming back. If it was you and me, we would not make a big thing about "what you knew when I was lying? Oh dare you!". Personally I would just be like "fucking awesome, man!".
@Johnny Skywalker 21:48 This is what Homelander needs in The Boys Season 2 and Jeri Hogarth from Jessica Jones