Just jerk off your precious Attitude era and leave us alone , face it : people are having a Blast right now , its far more profitable and successful than before even Cornette and bichoff are enjoying it now
It’s making more money because of smart marketing and business decisions combined with the fact that they have no competition. I don’t know anyone that likes todays products. My kids laugh at it and i don’t see any mainstream acceptance. If people are having fun that’s great but where are they?
For all the hate Tony Khan gets for his booking, I agree with Vince, Triple H never books heat. He caved to the Cody sausage fest marks and was too afraid to book heat at Wrestlemania.
Most of those old wrestlers are the reason why they need to be kicked out of their executive positions. Never make a wrestler or wrestlers control other wrestlers careers.
Yep. Which doesn't draw any kind of audience whatsoever. Triple H knows what he's doing. He is intentionally hurting the business. He needs to be held accountable for this.
@@James-if3kcliterally no but the way books the show, he's trying not to become super cena to any wrestlers, Rhea is the latest example and they wrote her off TV.
Stevie summed it all up perfectly at the end: Fifty-fifty booking every week, babies over, heels over, somebody going through the table at the end of every show. That last one is the one that bugs me the most, and is the perfect example of how complacent, boring, and predictable WWE has become, especially Smackdown. You know that EVERY SINGLE SHOW is going to end with somebody neatly clearing off the announce table of all the monitors and everything else, getting it all nice and smooth, and then put somebody through it in the most obviously-safe looking and boring way. Just keep giving these sheep what they want, right Levesque? Give 'em "banger after banger" and then somebody through the announce table, and they'll come back for more. Except they won't. They're leaving. More of them every week.
Russo asked "what's missing" with Triple H. I think we all know the answer. Triple H isn't this stupid. He knows exactly what he's doing. And Russo has said it himself. Triple H doesn't want anyone to ever become bigger than him or the company. It's all about preserving his legacy. Why do you think he's in all the ads for the PPVs? They all end with Triple H saying something. Every single one. The focus isn't the wrestlers. Hell, it's not even the company. It's him. It's always him.
Triple h is so annoying. I wish he can permanently leave the WWE. I can't stand when he inserts himself in the Pay per view shows. He was in Bad Blood like 5 times. He's too prideful and self centered. What's also annoying is how he takes pics with wrestlers every time they just won a title.
@@TabithaK-ue4ci You're absolutely right. Even Vince didn't do this stuff. Triple H is making it all about himself. He's the "papa" of the main roster, and HBK is the "papa" of NXT. And they are abusive parents who will continue to hold their children down.
@@TabithaK-ue4ci You're absolutely right. Even Vince didn't do this stuff. Triple H is making it all about himself. He's the "papa" of the main roster, and HBK is the "papa" of NXT.
I tell you what. Agree with EVERYTHING you all said, especially about the booking leading to Survivor Series and MCMG. The one thing I would say is Booker T's school is great, the guys and girls that came from Reality of Wrestling are some of the best workers in NXT and have some decent character work. We don't need Seth's school, not like there is much he can teach that other vets know much better but Booker T is a vet who knows how to train wrestlers and help attract good talent and nurture them better than most other schools. The guys doing the botches or who make wrestling look fake and scripted especially in AEW, none of them are Booker's guys or girls. That's all I can say. OVW is great and I agree they should be part of this as you said because Al Snow gets it, and I watch them weekly
It's moving into a similar direction as AEW, working a horrible match once a week or less, no more house shows, no mandatory practice, crazy high salaries and about zero effort being put into storytelling, match structure,realistic selling etc....
Yep, but "Ohhh Triple H is such a good guy for cancelling house shows and giving the wrestlers more time with their families." This mindset is pathetic. Always has been, always will be. Wrestlers need house shows to get better and keep their momentum. Once a week or less doesn't cut it. More of this soft snowflake "feelings" era of wrestling.
Exactly. Imagine a NBA player playing basketball for 10 minutes a week. It`s ridicolous and why many wrestling fans think this is okay especially considering what these guys are getting paid these days is crazy to me.
@@saimakhan3257 These marks will: A) Say you're jealous B) Praise the wrestlers for "knowing their worth" and getting paid as much as possible C) Tell you to "watch AEW". D) All of the above The correct answer is D.
@@James-if3kc good to see that there are still some people that haven't completely lost their mind😂👍 I'm okay with being called jealous but I will not support this craziness that would have never happened without some mark called Tony Khan starting to pay girls who have not done anything ever in the wrestling business six figures for working 8 days a year
Bro, let me tell you, her leaving Raw and Lillian Garcia coming back is the best thing that could happen, and something that I hoped for. Didn't think it would actually happen though.
One thing that AEW does a lot better than WWE is table spots. When somebody goes through a table during a fight in AEW, it feels spontaneous and that somebody threw them through a table that happened to be there. In WWE it's an entire predictable display, clearing off the announce table every single week, as if to say "well, here's the weekly table spot you tuned in for" and then making a big contrived production out of putting someone through it. Boring as hell.
The future is no different than the last 15 some years. There’s really no defining moments, characters or personas. The wrestlers look the same, no one stands out and the match’s have become silly with the flip flopping. Hate to see pro wrestling so homogenized and bland
@@Spooky_515 the wrestlers look the same 30 years ago, everyone had to be bodybuilders. The only thing thats different today is the promos , where it’s obvious that they’re reading from a piece of paper instead of just saying it like they mean it . , sure they were reading promos from a script back the attitude era also but they made it sound believable
@@danielsims916I beg to differ. Mid to late 90’s still had a variety of unique characters that stood out. They had a handful of “body” guys. Other than that you had Austin, Taker, Goldust, Bret, Viscera, Yoko, Doink, Gangrel, Hardy boys and the list goes on. I will agree that the end of attitude era was the beginning of the scripts but mostly they were given key points to hit and then it was up to them
@ even In the mid 90s they were the same , it was so bad in the mid 90s that they had to have occupations , like a dentist and a garbage man. Even in the attitude era . They was the same to a degree with the sex , and cussing every 15 minutes. But since at the time it was over with the crowds, it got swept under the rug so no one really cared
@@danielsims916 They actually say worse swear words now in WWE that they weren't allowed to say in the Attitude Era. And the "sex" every 15 minutes was a relatively small part of the show. A few midcard gimmicks and that was it. It was never at the top of the card. But please, keep virtue signaling to show your twitterbois how kewl you are.
@@danielsims916 just admit it instead of scrambling around trying to validate yourself. You said they were all the same, all body builders. Now you’re saying they’re all the same because they had occupations. Just the fact that they all had different occupational gimmicks made them stand out more than the guys from today.
To be extremely fair… OVW had the best prepared wrestlers because they had Jim cornette getting guys ready. Without cornette, I don’t think they would re contract.
I heard backstage the wrestlers don’t even watch the show and are playing video games. Back in the day Austin and company were all sharks trying to be the top dog watching everything. Kevin Owen’s doesn’t even go to the gym and admits he’s lazy. Hhh just hires his buddies Hbk and puts Stephanie making cameos. Bret should have wiped the floor with both of them backstage in Montreal after they swore to god lol.
At least there would be something entertaining, if Glenn Gilbernetti was on NXT. Maybe he is too scared to go there, because he was too scared to put me on his list.
I agree with Stevie that it's cool to see MCMG in WWE finally, I've liked them for almost 20 years, but for them to win the titles only A WEEK after they debuted? There's probably tons of WWE fans who had no idea who they were. How about building them up on tv for a month or two before doing this? Instead of assuming that everybody knows who they are. This is the same problem that AEW has had for a long time. Bring in somebody from Mexico or Japan and expect the whole audience to know them, without explaining who they are at all.
Steves initial silence speaks volumes to a degree. Espcially nowsdays. I miss when this was niche to a degree and colt was the main media source. This whole scene has become a little too common and complacent.
I know Russo and Stevie , who is the other guy? Never heard of him in wrestling, I can at least hear what Russo and Stevie opinions are even if I don’t agree with them, the other guy, can’t even take his opinion seriously
This is like MLB’s “Top 100 prospect list” where you get that ID next to your name. I’m not sure how this will go, I like it and I kinda don’t like it. Like in MLB when they show minors games, if Jackson Holliday comes up to bat, they refer to him on tv and in the media as “MLB Top Prospect #3” in the top 100 prospects. That’s what this is like. The only dumb thing is that one company WWE puts this list out from like 3 schools. Maybe itll change and more schools come into play, but that’s like MLB saying OK, here’s your top 100 prospects but only from 3 teams. NYY, Dodgers and Mets….stupid. For this to actually work in theory, AEW prospects should be included in this list too, but obviously it’s business, so that’s not happening. In fact, if these idiots had any clue, HHH and Tony would get together and propose real game changing things for pro wrestling. What about if money, health, injuries and insurance were covered, what if LEGIT, WWE/AEW could trade/buy out talent from each other in real life like in sports? And a “true” WrestleDream Show. That changes the entire wrestling business which would overnight change the entire businesses. Not gonna happen, but it only takes 2 adults to sit down and truly take this to the next level.
You know if they bring OVW into the fold they are going to try to hire the person who ran OWV at that time, Jim Cornette, reducing Al Snow to be a coach, right?
Lol the future is 40 year old over the hill establishment wrestlers whove been in the industry way to long and refuse to put over new home grown talent.
You can kind of tell when people have lost the plot and they're just taking shots for Ratings it's it's pretty sad like I'm I am generally sad for these three individuals you know once credible people in the wrestling business now just taking the route of the shock jock trying to get views and ratings
@ it has to do with Russo saying he came up with the game but Iam saying it don’t matter when u work for someone else your ideas are there ideas they payed you for them and that’s that so it’s really all Vince McMahon it’s his money that payed Russo to think Russo gets no credit cuz he never owned anything just how she goes he should stop crying about it
the future of wwe? well russo its basically looks like this. Very successful, far more than it has ever before run by people who dont take all the credit for themselves. Its glorious and the further away u from it u are the better. As kevin Owens once said: its a good thing Russo dosent like me'' now back to ur litttle wahhhh wahhhh podcast
@@James-if3kc I’ll be waiting for a very long time. The wwe is doing great rn. Keep coping and listening to a guy that hasn’t been in the business for years 😂🤦
Just jerk off your precious Attitude era and leave us alone , face it : people are having a Blast right now , its far more profitable and successful than before even Cornette and bichoff are enjoying it now
It’s making more money because of smart marketing and business decisions combined with the fact that they have no competition. I don’t know anyone that likes todays products. My kids laugh at it and i don’t see any mainstream acceptance. If people are having fun that’s great but where are they?
Tony?
Lol, Russo pinned this comment! XD
😂😂😂😂 Absolute De - Lu Lu
@clapdouglas That's the
Problem you modern fans Benchmark is if it's better than AEW. Both Companies suck 😂
For all the hate Tony Khan gets for his booking, I agree with Vince, Triple H never books heat. He caved to the Cody sausage fest marks and was too afraid to book heat at Wrestlemania.
Triple H is a mark for himself.
@@jkjk42898 every one is a mark but it’s just different levels to it
Most of those old wrestlers are the reason why they need to be kicked out of their executive positions. Never make a wrestler or wrestlers control other wrestlers careers.
@@casualtalk6512you're right I don't want Will Ospreay control my career just for the sake of 5 star match
I agree 💯 they need fire him. Go new direction WWE. 😎✌🏻
@@NathanSchellTV fire him for who ? Vince Russo ???😂😂😂
They are doubling down on injecting more indie wrestling crap in WWE
Yep. Which doesn't draw any kind of audience whatsoever. Triple H knows what he's doing. He is intentionally hurting the business. He needs to be held accountable for this.
Triple Nose said no more John Cena's & apparently he is sticking to that.
Did he really say that?
@@James-if3kcliterally no but the way books the show, he's trying not to become super cena to any wrestlers, Rhea is the latest example and they wrote her off TV.
@@punk0101 Isn't she injured for real?
HHH only got his spot in management because he married Stephanie
And the grass is green.
Stevie summed it all up perfectly at the end: Fifty-fifty booking every week, babies over, heels over, somebody going through the table at the end of every show. That last one is the one that bugs me the most, and is the perfect example of how complacent, boring, and predictable WWE has become, especially Smackdown. You know that EVERY SINGLE SHOW is going to end with somebody neatly clearing off the announce table of all the monitors and everything else, getting it all nice and smooth, and then put somebody through it in the most obviously-safe looking and boring way. Just keep giving these sheep what they want, right Levesque? Give 'em "banger after banger" and then somebody through the announce table, and they'll come back for more. Except they won't. They're leaving. More of them every week.
Russo asked "what's missing" with Triple H. I think we all know the answer. Triple H isn't this stupid. He knows exactly what he's doing. And Russo has said it himself. Triple H doesn't want anyone to ever become bigger than him or the company. It's all about preserving his legacy. Why do you think he's in all the ads for the PPVs? They all end with Triple H saying something. Every single one. The focus isn't the wrestlers. Hell, it's not even the company. It's him. It's always him.
Triple h is so annoying. I wish he can permanently leave the WWE. I can't stand when he inserts himself in the Pay per view shows. He was in Bad Blood like 5 times. He's too prideful and self centered. What's also annoying is how he takes pics with wrestlers every time they just won a title.
@@TabithaK-ue4ci You're absolutely right. Even Vince didn't do this stuff. Triple H is making it all about himself. He's the "papa" of the main roster, and HBK is the "papa" of NXT. And they are abusive parents who will continue to hold their children down.
@@TabithaK-ue4ci You're absolutely right. Even Vince didn't do this stuff. Triple H is making it all about himself. He's the "papa" of the main roster, and HBK is the "papa" of NXT.
The Heartfail Kid is the best booker in history, the booker of bookers!
@@koolgadgetor LOL!
Best Line: '...Why watch anything?!" -BH
"Tiki Rising" gets a close second, brothers.
Tee Hee Tiki, Torch unpassers
I tell you what. Agree with EVERYTHING you all said, especially about the booking leading to Survivor Series and MCMG. The one thing I would say is Booker T's school is great, the guys and girls that came from Reality of Wrestling are some of the best workers in NXT and have some decent character work. We don't need Seth's school, not like there is much he can teach that other vets know much better but Booker T is a vet who knows how to train wrestlers and help attract good talent and nurture them better than most other schools. The guys doing the botches or who make wrestling look fake and scripted especially in AEW, none of them are Booker's guys or girls. That's all I can say. OVW is great and I agree they should be part of this as you said because Al Snow gets it, and I watch them weekly
The future is looking pretty bleak for WWE considering the Bloodline.
It's moving into a similar direction as AEW, working a horrible match once a week or less, no more house shows, no mandatory practice, crazy high salaries and about zero effort being put into storytelling, match structure,realistic selling etc....
Yep, but "Ohhh Triple H is such a good guy for cancelling house shows and giving the wrestlers more time with their families." This mindset is pathetic. Always has been, always will be. Wrestlers need house shows to get better and keep their momentum. Once a week or less doesn't cut it. More of this soft snowflake "feelings" era of wrestling.
Exactly. Imagine a NBA player playing basketball for 10 minutes a week. It`s ridicolous and why many wrestling fans think this is okay especially considering what these guys are getting paid these days is crazy to me.
@@saimakhan3257 These marks will:
A) Say you're jealous
B) Praise the wrestlers for "knowing their worth" and getting paid as much as possible
C) Tell you to "watch AEW".
D) All of the above
The correct answer is D.
@@James-if3kc good to see that there are still some people that haven't completely lost their mind😂👍 I'm okay with being called jealous but I will not support this craziness that would have never happened without some mark called Tony Khan starting to pay girls who have not done anything ever in the wrestling business six figures for working 8 days a year
@@cutiemarshall6502 Thank you! Yep, I totally agree with you. I like your name too. I just heard QT Marshall is coming back to AEW, lol.
All the simp/marks who cried over Samantha Irvin leaving
Lmao.
Bro, let me tell you, her leaving Raw and Lillian Garcia coming back is the best thing that could happen, and something that I hoped for. Didn't think it would actually happen though.
One thing that AEW does a lot better than WWE is table spots. When somebody goes through a table during a fight in AEW, it feels spontaneous and that somebody threw them through a table that happened to be there. In WWE it's an entire predictable display, clearing off the announce table every single week, as if to say "well, here's the weekly table spot you tuned in for" and then making a big contrived production out of putting someone through it. Boring as hell.
Ngl the announce table breaking looks so much better than aew, and this is coming from an aew fan
@@devicebackup664 Lmao not even remotely true.
The future is no different than the last 15 some years. There’s really no defining moments, characters or personas. The wrestlers look the same, no one stands out and the match’s have become silly with the flip flopping. Hate to see pro wrestling so homogenized and bland
@@Spooky_515 the wrestlers look the same 30 years ago, everyone had to be bodybuilders. The only thing thats different today is the promos , where it’s obvious that they’re reading from a piece of paper instead of just saying it like they mean it . , sure they were reading promos from a script back the attitude era also but they made it sound believable
@@danielsims916I beg to differ. Mid to late 90’s still had a variety of unique characters that stood out. They had a handful of “body” guys. Other than that you had Austin, Taker, Goldust, Bret, Viscera, Yoko, Doink, Gangrel, Hardy boys and the list goes on. I will agree that the end of attitude era was the beginning of the scripts but mostly they were given key points to hit and then it was up to them
@ even In the mid 90s they were the same , it was so bad in the mid 90s that they had to have occupations , like a dentist and a garbage man. Even in the attitude era . They was the same to a degree with the sex , and cussing every 15 minutes. But since at the time it was over with the crowds, it got swept under the rug so no one really cared
@@danielsims916 They actually say worse swear words now in WWE that they weren't allowed to say in the Attitude Era. And the "sex" every 15 minutes was a relatively small part of the show. A few midcard gimmicks and that was it. It was never at the top of the card. But please, keep virtue signaling to show your twitterbois how kewl you are.
@@danielsims916 just admit it instead of scrambling around trying to validate yourself. You said they were all the same, all body builders. Now you’re saying they’re all the same because they had occupations. Just the fact that they all had different occupational gimmicks made them stand out more than the guys from today.
In another news, bischoff is dissing russo again. With bischoff's loan officer boss in attendance.
To be extremely fair… OVW had the best prepared wrestlers because they had Jim cornette getting guys ready. Without cornette, I don’t think they would re contract.
I heard backstage the wrestlers don’t even watch the show and are playing video games. Back in the day Austin and company were all sharks trying to be the top dog watching everything.
Kevin Owen’s doesn’t even go to the gym and admits he’s lazy.
Hhh just hires his buddies Hbk and puts Stephanie making cameos. Bret should have wiped the floor with both of them backstage in Montreal after they swore to god lol.
Modern wrestlers are pathetic.
OVW weekly show is usually better than Raw and Smackdown . Even with really green talents.
Triple H is so overrated as head of creative.
Absolutely.
Where can I watch these three guys ? Patreon ? UA-cam ?
You're watching them right now.
5:08 The way he pronounces the names.
😂😅wwe ratings for latest show was pretty bad 👎 I'm guessing Netflix won't mind it if they just stop trying before they ever even get there.
Tiki RIsing, lol!
JEALOUSY BRO
HHH is missing Vince McMahon that's why WWE sucks
At least there would be something entertaining, if Glenn Gilbernetti was on NXT. Maybe he is too scared to go there, because he was too scared to put me on his list.
I agree with Stevie that it's cool to see MCMG in WWE finally, I've liked them for almost 20 years, but for them to win the titles only A WEEK after they debuted? There's probably tons of WWE fans who had no idea who they were. How about building them up on tv for a month or two before doing this? Instead of assuming that everybody knows who they are. This is the same problem that AEW has had for a long time. Bring in somebody from Mexico or Japan and expect the whole audience to know them, without explaining who they are at all.
Steves initial silence speaks volumes to a degree. Espcially nowsdays. I miss when this was niche to a degree and colt was the main media source. This whole scene has become a little too common and complacent.
Tiki brothers 😂😂😂 vince speaking facts so the usos can beat up three people but jimmy and roman couldnt they got laid out several times..
Tiki brothers… bro lol
“Two wrestling fundamentalists “. I know Bin had the muslim gimmick but this is taking it too far 😂😂
Stevie's look in these videos is like his talking to 2 idiots and he be right
WWE Fanatics watch Russo everyweek with baited breath praying he says something good about WWE...No, It sucks😂
Tiki and Taki
I like Taki's beef sticks.
I know Russo and Stevie , who is the other guy? Never heard of him in wrestling, I can at least hear what Russo and Stevie opinions are even if I don’t agree with them, the other guy, can’t even take his opinion seriously
Bin Hamin, whoever that is.
@ who is he ?
He wrestled I think, though I’m not sure where
@@danielsims916 No idea.
@ if he wrestled, never seen him.
Vince is such a bro, bro. I can't believe bro of how much of a bro he is bro. HE can't even believe how much of a bro he is bro... Bro. 😌
This is like MLB’s “Top 100 prospect list” where you get that ID next to your name. I’m not sure how this will go, I like it and I kinda don’t like it. Like in MLB when they show minors games, if Jackson Holliday comes up to bat, they refer to him on tv and in the media as “MLB Top Prospect #3” in the top 100 prospects. That’s what this is like. The only dumb thing is that one company WWE puts this list out from like 3 schools. Maybe itll change and more schools come into play, but that’s like MLB saying OK, here’s your top 100 prospects but only from 3 teams. NYY, Dodgers and Mets….stupid. For this to actually work in theory, AEW prospects should be included in this list too, but obviously it’s business, so that’s not happening. In fact, if these idiots had any clue, HHH and Tony would get together and propose real game changing things for pro wrestling. What about if money, health, injuries and insurance were covered, what if LEGIT, WWE/AEW could trade/buy out talent from each other in real life like in sports? And a “true” WrestleDream Show. That changes the entire wrestling business which would overnight change the entire businesses. Not gonna happen, but it only takes 2 adults to sit down and truly take this to the next level.
1:42 - Are they all Britt Baker fans?
Bischoff going overtime making Vinny Ru videos today eh.
You know if they bring OVW into the fold they are going to try to hire the person who ran OWV at that time, Jim Cornette, reducing Al Snow to be a coach, right?
And Cornette will accept because then he can slobber on Punk in person.
Lol the future is 40 year old over the hill establishment wrestlers whove been in the industry way to long and refuse to put over new home grown talent.
You can kind of tell when people have lost the plot and they're just taking shots for Ratings it's it's pretty sad like I'm I am generally sad for these three individuals you know once credible people in the wrestling business now just taking the route of the shock jock trying to get views and ratings
It’s all about the game and how ya play it it’s all about Russo and no he can’t take it it’s all about the game and who’s gonna make not the russo 😂
Is this English?
@ yep
@ it has to do with Russo saying he came up with the game but Iam saying it don’t matter when u work for someone else your ideas are there ideas they payed you for them and that’s that so it’s really all Vince McMahon it’s his money that payed Russo to think Russo gets no credit cuz he never owned anything just how she goes he should stop crying about it
@@fantasticdavidson1179 ok
Solo sequoia!!!😅😅😅😅😅
Y’all haters.
lmao what an intelligent argument. XD
@@James-if3kc yup it is
@@ThatGuy-p2c LOL!
@@James-if3kc I don’t even watch. But unless Russo is writing it, then it sucks.
@@ThatGuy-p2c Wait, so you like Russo?
the future of wwe? well russo its basically looks like this. Very successful, far more than it has ever before run by people who dont take all the credit for themselves. Its glorious and the further away u from it u are the better. As kevin Owens once said: its a good thing Russo dosent like me'' now back to ur litttle wahhhh wahhhh podcast
Lmao, keep saying that as the ratings fall farther every week.
Use one word to describe WWE's future
Bleak.
Indy
@@James-if3kchahaha ok little guy
@@BrendanFinnagin Just wait and see, mark.
@@James-if3kc I’ll be waiting for a very long time. The wwe is doing great rn. Keep coping and listening to a guy that hasn’t been in the business for years 😂🤦
HEAT ON THE HEELS👍