Persuasion in an Age of Polarisation, with Anand Giridharadas | Intelligence Squared
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2023
- The lifeblood of any free society is healthy disagreement: people with different views trying to change each other’s minds through argument and persuasion. But many democracies across the world are suffering a crisis of faith in the values of debate and have instead turned to writing off those who disagree with them.
In December 2022 Anand Giridharadas came to Intelligence Squared to discuss how our societies lost the art of persuasion. Drawing on his new book The Persuaders, he took us inside the movements at the heart of the culture wars. From Black Lives Matter to Trumpism, Giridharadas highlighted the intense pressure to conform to ideas and highlight the dissenters who continue to champion persuasion and healthy disagreement in an age of polarisation.
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I agree on many of the issues Anand brings up. The problem is I don't trust in the system that has been set up to address it. It lack the essential signs of a healthy institution: self-interrogation, self-correction, accountability, transparency, etc. To the contrary, I sense that the cause has been corrupted by opportunists who utilize people's good will for nefarious ends. Trust isn't won by persuasion, but is earned through honesty, transparency and demonstration of competence and good intent.
Loved this interview!
“How come we never tell people about the blimps?
In a future where we fight climate change, blimps are going to be important…Blimps are fun, blimps are exciting. People like blimps.
We never talk about the blimps! Instead, we tell everyone we can’t eat steak anymore…”
For a second I thought that Anand had a point that democrats are that party that puts forward reasoned arguments and are fully knowledgeable about the policies the put forward and those policies are for the good of everyone, then I turned on MSNBC and remembered that they constantly pout, call opposing views anti science or extreme without any basis, claim long term issues are immediate emergencies and actual immediate emergencies aren't problems at all, and put forward policies that reduce freedom, cause short term issues, don't address long term issues but claim to solve them.
great summary.
Thanks for the interview.
Very interesting overview of today’s stars and so true we need a different way to talk as well as belonging to a practical project for change
Here we go
.good opinions...
Why do I never see anyone on the right being interviewed on this UA-cam debate channel?
What position from the right would you like represented?
@@paulmccarter908 any position.
Yeah, this is central to the problem.
@@paulmccarter908 How about anyone?
Because it caters to intelligent people.
Agree with inclusive discussion- plz tell the left.
Life is temporary.
Trust isn't won through persuasion, but is earned through honesty, transparency and demonstration of competence and good intent. This is what's lacking.
Imo he posed a contradiction in his statements. He first judged elon and Zuckerberg based on their interviews and public persona without having met them in real life and said demeaning things like "he stopped growing after age 11".
And then later in the interview says people have begun calling others out instead of quietly going to the person after the meeting and saying "hey, so and so...".
Thats being two faced
I disagree. You can't change everyone. And you definitely can't change billionaires. I'm not gonna try to persuade a wall to move aside. And I won't try to persuade my class enemy to help me. You have limited time and have to be strategic about who you try to convince. I suppose what he's saying is the left CAN convince people on the right to join them and fight the billionaires (or whatever else they wanna do). I think most ppl on the left feel they CANNOT reach the right - the right is their enemy and is racist and bigoted and violent and they must oppose them. I won't say which is correct, it depends on the individual you are dealing with. I think many people -can- change, but how long will that take, is it possible, and what about all the harm they are causing in the meantime while you convince them to do the right thing? It's also about priorities, and what people think will work. From my experience, generally you can't convince anyone of anything unless you are close to them and they trust you. And your political and class enemies and rarely that.
I wonder what persuasive techniques Giridharadas would use on someone who says, "There are 50 black countries on Earth and every single one is a failure. Doesn't that prove that the blacks are inferior? Why is there no black country with strong economic growth like China, South Korea, Taiwan, India and Vietnam?"
Two Reasons.
1) They are at the receiving end of the actions of economic hitmen.
2) They haven't had any exposure to modernization.
Reason 1 is already well known. Many companies have ruthlessly exploited black countries till date ...
Sad really, the unwillingness and/or incapacity within the more and more religious-authoritarian woke left to be honest about the said polarisation problem.
Matthew 7:5 "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye"
Ah yes, Intelligence Squared. Previously, an open platform for intellectual debate. Now, an echo chamber for the Establishment Narrative. The lack of self-awareness would be shocking if not so predictable. After Michael Mann and other leftists got decimated in the old format debates, IS2 went into irreversible decline, similar to NPR and PBS. Sad really, as the debate format was already a dying breed...
Yeah nothing compared against Prager U and every other, billionaire funded right wing propaganda machines
Which "Establishment Narrative" are you reffering to?
Leftists are the furthest from the establishment narrative you could possibly be
The interviewer has arthritis in her hands and the AC is clearly too cool for the guest who decides to wear a leather jacket and scarf indoors.
Vapid
I’ve watched two minutes of this and I’m going to put my neck on the line and guess this bloke is a leftist.
Nailed it. What a pair of arrogant communists. Bye.
What does that mean, leftist
Does that mean what he is saying is wrong?
A leftist of the tribal/sectarian sort.
@@paulmccarter908 I think it means Anand holds views common among those who describe themselves as leftist.
You used a lot of words without actually saying anything...
Listen to this guy bad mouth the most contributing…economy driving…wealthiest…intellectual people on the planet….jealousy, envy and sadness