Isabel Wilkerson with Anand Giridharadas: Caste
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2022
- In this brilliant book, Isabel Wilkerson gives us a masterful portrait of an unseen phenomenon in America as she explores, through an immersive, deeply researched narrative and stories about real people, how America today and throughout its history has been shaped by a hidden caste system, a rigid hierarchy of human rankings.
Isabel Wilkerson will be joined in conversation by editor -at-large for Time, Anand Giridharadas.
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Beyond race, class, or other factors, there is a powerful caste system that influences people’s lives and behavior and the nation’s fate. Linking the caste systems of America, India, and Nazi Germany, Wilkerson explores eight pillars that underlie caste systems across civilizations, including divine will, bloodlines, stigma, and more. Using riveting stories about people-including Martin Luther King, Jr., baseball’s Satchel Paige, a single father and his toddler son, Wilkerson herself, and many others-she shows the ways that the insidious undertow of caste is experienced every day. She documents how the Nazis studied the racial systems in America to plan their out-cast of the Jews; she discusses why the cruel logic of caste requires that there be a bottom rung for those in the middle to measure themselves against; she writes about the surprising health costs of caste, in depression and life expectancy, and the effects of this hierarchy on our culture and politics. Finally, she points forward to ways America can move beyond the artificial and destructive separations of human divisions, toward hope in our common humanity.
Beautifully written, original, and revealing, "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents" is an eye-opening story of people and history, and a reexamination of what lies under the surface of ordinary lives and of American life today. - Розваги
“I'm not interested in anybody's guilt. Guilt is a luxury that we can no longer afford. I know you didn't do it, and I didn't do it either, but I am responsible for it because I am a man and a citizen of this country and you are responsible for it, too, for the very same reason... Anyone who is trying to be conscious must begin to dismiss the vocabulary which we've used so long to cover it up, to lie about the way things are.” ― James Baldwin
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This book is the definition of how a color coded system works! This is literally their playbook of lies and abuse! We needed this book to help us understand America and the West in general 🙏. Thanks to our brilliant sister for defining the system! We all need this book!!!!
Caste is an excellent page turner because Wilkerson keeps it interesting. It will be difficult for many Americans to accept this because they have been programmed for so long to think of prejudice as natural. Yes, many will attribute their opinions to themselves based on facts (crime) derived from a press that maintains the predominant caste view. Or by attacking being woke without understanding what it means to see, comprehend and feel empathy for others. I look forward to reading Mrs. Wilkerson’s first book: The Warmth of Other Suns.
Easily the U.S book of year. Excellent talk by a top tier author with an excellent interviewer to boot.
She needs to be heard as a MANDATORY AP college course for sure
She’s a professor at several universities.
Life & mind changing book. Isabel is brilliant. Canadian here.
🕊One of the best book ,I have ever read. I wish everyone would read it 🕊📚🕊
....BTW....I will still purchase her book. She has given the most complete explanation of the "caste" system....good stuff!
I like her material and presentation. She has much more hope than I do about Amerikkka doing the right so we can ALL live in peace. The dominant group in Amerikkka can care less about those who have less. It's about the "haves and have nots" they don't even care about poor white people. I do hope her assessment is correct and that I'm wrong!
HUMAN NATURE SUCKS
Well done! Excellent interview.
Who are the people that established the casting system in this country and why.
🕊They ( British)learned the caste system tactics from India & model it true the world . German model its tactics in Holocaust by using American slavery tactics to keep slavery going for 300 years & so on, specifically Medical Apartheid 🕊
🕊It’s all in the book . I highly recommend you reading it 🕊
Read! Read many books and not be indoctrinated to your cultural, culture, race etc narrative!
40:22; The hearts and minds hv already been manipulated by the capitalist oligarchy found in different forms and shapes ; today even the victim of crass capitalism has started believing that only capitalism can resolve his/her issues ….
Conformity is the invisible body in all aspects of this caste system and colonization is the brain that has affected everyone on this planet. When you have been rob of your identity culture & language etc, its hard to open the eyes & minds of the very same people who go along just to get along
Today society peoples are so busy with theirs everyday life the Internet make it easy to get any information as fast as they can people don’t even buy book anymore Most book today should have and audio with them ,someone like me who speak two other languages I like to listen 🎧 first to my audio than read the book it is good for me to invite the author and my lieu first get to know a bit about the story now I can read the book Not my brother he is the other way around .I brought a book a year ago the audio was so exciting to listen too but the book was very boring I only read five chapters I never read it again I give it to charity not the audio I heard people love that particular book a lot I believe it for me the read was very boring .I think I will love her books she wrote real life historical type of stories about injustice and the south View me I am a black person who’s not from America 🇺🇸 who came to visit heir and there who leave and America for couples years Those stories never ends I can’t wait to buy her book I never heard of her before audio or not audio I will read her book it might take me months but I will read her book Thanks 🙏 for your podcast .I am admired you for years and MSNBC also you hair is the most beautiful things ever.thanks.
Caste as practiced in India is infinitely more complex than race. Dealing with that would be a lot different than dealing with race
Can you explain yourself?
@jaiku99 Why is it more complex than race? Also, did you listen between 6:37 minutes to 9:40 minutes. She explains that race and caste are NOT the same thing. In fact, as she expounds on the difference, she refers to race being a metric or signifier of where one is placed/ranked within a caste system. Hunny, listen to actually hear her and not to respond baselessly.
@@phumzilegubanca4116 Caste hierarchy is not set in stone as it is believed. There are numerous examples of caste that have moved up the social hierarchy and assumed positions of power. Not talking about individuals. The cast as a whole. It can work the other way too when castes can slid down the ladder. Race is something you are born with and you are stuck with.
The irony of this interview, being about a caste system, and the narrator continues to rank everything all throughout the interview.He starts by ranking his work in comparison to Isabels work. He then goes on to rank Isabels work, his work, and Michael Lewis is Work. The irony
Her book was an interesting read, but watching this interview puts her in a different light for me. She seems hopeful, when very little has changed for the average black person.
When he asked about Kamala Harris, she totally missed his point. She came across as part of the black misleadership class. I was really disappointed in her response.
Trying to find the good in bad people, is a fools errand, and often the result of religious programing.
Ms. Wilkerson may have done research on the Indian Caste system and Anand maybe of Indian heritage but I submit that neither of them have a clue about the caste system. Neither have lived or could live a day in an Indian lower caste person's life. To use the woke term of "cultural appropriation" this appropriation is criminal. This is the mind set of a sick person to go searching for victimhood. You cannot convince me that the life of African-Americans is in anyway close to the misery of an Indian Untouchable. It baffles me that a sane person can do research on the Indian caste system and not come to the realization that, yes there are people in this world that are much worse off than the African-Americans, maybe we should help them beat the caste system. Instead she equates with them. All she has done is given a twisted justification to the Upper Caste Indians to say - every society has its problems, even the USA has a caste system. This is the saddest book I have read. To see a person go out of her way to find victimhood and the gallery of applauders is a sickening spectacle.
The oppressing castes (so called upper castes) will always find justification for casteism and resort to whataboutery no matter any number of books gets written on this topic.
Thank you so much for having the good sense to come to this realization. I cannot stand these two, anand giridharadas in particular drives my blood pressure through the roof. God bless you for seeing through this harsh, pathetic woke garbage. Notice how everything comes back around to America as the problem. These people are so blatantly antiamerican its horrid. Anand had the gaul to compare nazi Germany as less evil as America. Drives me crazy.
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Are you an Indian “untouchable”?
@@AW-ji7no I don't understand
Isabel Wilkerson is born & bought up in rich-advanced USA , so who oppressed her , where when , how ??
Fixation on purity is da imaginary scale dat creates imaginary value dat da hierarchy MUS maintain 2 justify biases n abuses!🌚👁️🖐🏽🌸🍯🐝🦾🇺🇸 psycho damage 2foster complicit zeitgeist oda 100th monkey… ‘monkeys’😟🔐🧠🫀🎀