I know you are a reviewer, but I love to see that you have so many amazing whiskeys opened in your collection. I drink mine, I also trade and sell but only to have these so I can drink them. Great video as always!
Unfortunately we don't see any of these much in the UK - can get Booker's, Blantons, Old Forester, Stagg Jnr, Elijah Craig & occasionally Wellers but only the introductory level bottlings - until even those sell out! Some online stores here get a tiny Pappy allocation which is MRSP but sold by ballot to regular customers
I've used the secondary for mostly trading to get bottles I can't find or trading up, especially when you can get a good value out of some bottles like Weller.
Thanks for sharing, i am new to the hobby, anymore you can recommend? I know this is 2 years old..... also where is a good secondary market? thank you sir
Excellent video! I live in Manitoba Canada. I have whiskies I'd love to buy, trade and sell with the secondary, but I have no idea how to use it! How do you go about using the secondary market? Thanks, Jeremy!
@@SippersSocialClub A 2018 GTS and a ECBP C917. Think that particular ECBP won some awards. Have a A117 too. Also have a couple of Knob Creek original 9 year left but don't know if those are sought-after. Seems like now that the 9yr has returned people would want a bottle of the old one for comparison?
Being a movie prop collector myself, I’m no stranger to flippers. I recently got into bourbon, and was pretty shocked to see how much these rare bottles sell for. I personally hate when the opportunists rob the true enthusiasts of experiencing these beautiful bourbons, only to make a quick buck. I can certainly understand the higher price tag due to the limited availability of some items, but I think it should be done at a reasonable price. However, market demand will always set the price. So what can ya do? 🤷🏻♂️
Generally agree with the list but would add a couple of other Japanese brands including Karuizawa and Chichibu which go for crazy prices on secondary. Great video.
Not quite related, I just discovered whiskey auctions such as Waddington's. Id be interested to know more about that universe before attempting any purchases.
Waddington's sometimes gets great bottles, but I think their commission for buyers is extremely high, extra 20% on hammer price. I haven't bid from them before.
Great subject matter and some crazy prices! So I went hunting locally today: 3 bottles of Jack Daniels single barrel from 2009, $44 each. One Macallan 12 sherry cask from Jan. 2013, $53 (I seem to recall in one of your videos saying older Mac 12 were better?). 3 bottles Weller Special Reserve $25 each. Are any of these worth it? Thanks and Cheers!!!
I think they can pull the Baker's 13 for the Four Roses SB Ltd editions. I recently traded a 2019 OFBB for the 130th edition FR and was given a choice of the FR or a 2019 GTS or OF 15. Now if they ever open the border, I can complete it and get my other Bourbon stash delivered :)
Wow quite surprised ... no Yamazaki ??? and as you point out no Macallans, here in Europe the Edition series is flipped constantly .... also at auctions here the Highland Park older statements are extremely popular
Agh! I saw the Elmer T Lee 100 at a liquor store that I thought dared to charge $200 for and passed hard! They got another and now want $400 for it. Still, I probably couldnt buy it and not open it.
Great video! Thanks for posting. I think your info is right on. Better than the Magazine. I am neutral on the secondary market, because I am neutral on free enterprise in general. The market is neither virtuous or evil, IMO. I laugh at the whiners. What do they expect? They want people to sell to them below market? Silly. They must be Bernie Sanders fans.
@@SippersSocialClub lol.. maybe. Also, that Barrell Craft Spirits shouldn't even be on the list -- it's still readily available online for below MSRP.. around $219, so how this could be a top secondary whisky is beyond me.
Most flipped in CAD? Hope you are well Jeremy. Never purchased a bottle on secondary. Do not plan on it. I am willing to trade, but I am a drinker, not a collector/hoarder/flipper/tater.
There are no Canadian whiskies flipped here for the most part as the special stuff never goes south and in many cases the best of them are still on the shelf. The best bottles of Canadian Whisky that I traded to my US friends was the Crown Royal Cask 16 and Lot 40 cask strength 12 year. Incredible what you can get for a CR Cask 16.
I have seen blantons listed at $250.00 weller 12 over $200.00 both way over hyped and overpriced. They're good but not great and not really worth more than retail price. Pappy way over hyped and not worth more retail.
No way will I ever pay that much for these. But a few bucks more than regular price I wouldn’t mind
Great video!!! Secondary market is great for selling low quality at high prices to afford purchasing high quality at lower-mid price points.
100%
Where are these “secondary “ markets in the us?
I know you are a reviewer, but I love to see that you have so many amazing whiskeys opened in your collection. I drink mine, I also trade and sell but only to have these so I can drink them. Great video as always!
Thanks! Yeah, im the same, I buy, sell, and trade, but always open bottles and enjoy them :)
The secondary market is so crazy! Fun video !
Unfortunately we don't see any of these much in the UK - can get Booker's, Blantons, Old Forester, Stagg Jnr, Elijah Craig & occasionally Wellers but only the introductory level bottlings - until even those sell out! Some online stores here get a tiny Pappy allocation which is MRSP but sold by ballot to regular customers
I've used the secondary for mostly trading to get bottles I can't find or trading up, especially when you can get a good value out of some bottles like Weller.
Thanks for sharing, i am new to the hobby, anymore you can recommend? I know this is 2 years old..... also where is a good secondary market? thank you sir
I need to shop in your market
Whisk(e)y is for drinking, not flipping... IMHO
That Van Winkle Lot B is selling for $1,250 here in Maryland, seen it a few times. Blantons at $200
What secondary market site are you keeping your eye on?
I have an eye on different markets, from Facebook to UK Auctions
Excellent video! I live in Manitoba Canada. I have whiskies I'd love to buy, trade and sell with the secondary, but I have no idea how to use it! How do you go about using the secondary market? Thanks, Jeremy!
Great video Jeremy! Need to learn how the secondary market works as I have a couple of bottles that I bought just for this. Cheers
What ya got? :)
@@SippersSocialClub A 2018 GTS and a ECBP C917. Think that particular ECBP won some awards. Have a A117 too. Also have a couple of Knob Creek original 9 year left but don't know if those are sought-after. Seems like now that the 9yr has returned people would want a bottle of the old one for comparison?
I'm assuming this is just American whisky's? You should see how much Australian whisky sells for in the second hand market!
Sullivans cove
@@peterross2985 Yep & Heartwood (over priced)
Being a movie prop collector myself, I’m no stranger to flippers. I recently got into bourbon, and was pretty shocked to see how much these rare bottles sell for. I personally hate when the opportunists rob the true enthusiasts of experiencing these beautiful bourbons, only to make a quick buck. I can certainly understand the higher price tag due to the limited availability of some items, but I think it should be done at a reasonable price. However, market demand will always set the price. So what can ya do? 🤷🏻♂️
Generally agree with the list but would add a couple of other Japanese brands including Karuizawa and Chichibu which go for crazy prices on secondary. Great video.
Yeah, Japanese whisky has probably been the best investment whisky in the last 5-7 years
Wow i'm looking at the prices of all these now
Not quite related, I just discovered whiskey auctions such as Waddington's. Id be interested to know more about that universe before attempting any purchases.
Waddington's sometimes gets great bottles, but I think their commission for buyers is extremely high, extra 20% on hammer price. I haven't bid from them before.
Love these vids!
Thanks, cheers :)
Great subject matter and some crazy prices! So I went hunting locally today: 3 bottles of Jack Daniels single barrel from 2009, $44 each. One Macallan 12 sherry cask from Jan. 2013, $53 (I seem to recall in one of your videos saying older Mac 12 were better?). 3 bottles Weller Special Reserve $25 each. Are any of these worth it? Thanks and Cheers!!!
Those are all great prices, and totally worth buying. Cheers!
Yamazaki, hakushu, nikka
Bourbon is meant to be drunk, not collected to get dusty
I think they can pull the Baker's 13 for the Four Roses SB Ltd editions. I recently traded a 2019 OFBB for the 130th edition FR and was given a choice of the FR or a 2019 GTS or OF 15. Now if they ever open the border, I can complete it and get my other Bourbon stash delivered :)
Ive got some stuff over there as well... cheers Peter
If it wasn’t for the secondary market i wouldnt get hold of bottles released before my whiskyinterest started👍🏻
Great point
Thanks for the laugh, I love how the next video UA-cam qued up is "12 most flipped whiskies"🤣 #quirksofwiskeytube.
So where do you check secondary market to check pricing sir?
Mostly Facebook or auction sites
@@SippersSocialClub Any way to name a fb group or auction to look at? Thx for responding by the way.
@@millionairemccoy218 the Facebook groups are all private, but UK auctions try scotchwhiskyauctions.com and whiskyauctioneer.com
@@SippersSocialClub awesome thx
The secondary market, I feel it’s getting a little out of control…
Blantons here where i live in Calif. 120.00 to 170.00 and Wellers 107 i just seen it for 200.00
Wellers 107 here for $47...maybe I better get it.
Yikes
Wow quite surprised ... no Yamazaki ??? and as you point out no Macallans, here in Europe the Edition series is flipped constantly .... also at auctions here the Highland Park older statements are extremely popular
I assume they pulled most information from Bourbon groups
Sippers Social Club yes it surely points to that 😃 thanks
Agh! I saw the Elmer T Lee 100 at a liquor store that I thought dared to charge $200 for and passed hard! They got another and now want $400 for it. Still, I probably couldnt buy it and not open it.
Lol, that's why you need two, one to drink, one to flip :)
Great video! Thanks for posting. I think your info is right on. Better than the Magazine. I am neutral on the secondary market, because I am neutral on free enterprise in general. The market is neither virtuous or evil, IMO. I laugh at the whiners. What do they expect? They want people to sell to them below market? Silly. They must be Bernie Sanders fans.
I like how you have most of them ha
I saw weller 12 in a small shop today for 260 usd
Wow, unreal
Sippers Social Club blantons was 159, I said thanks and walked out
Colonel E. H. Taylor. :)
I'm the stupid 3rd type of person.
The admirable kind? :)
@@SippersSocialClub lol.. maybe. Also, that Barrell Craft Spirits shouldn't even be on the list -- it's still readily available online for below MSRP.. around $219, so how this could be a top secondary whisky is beyond me.
Most flipped in CAD? Hope you are well Jeremy. Never purchased a bottle on secondary. Do not plan on it. I am willing to trade, but I am a drinker, not a collector/hoarder/flipper/tater.
There are no Canadian whiskies flipped here for the most part as the special stuff never goes south and in many cases the best of them are still on the shelf.
The best bottles of Canadian Whisky that I traded to my US friends was the Crown Royal Cask 16 and Lot 40 cask strength 12 year. Incredible what you can get for a CR Cask 16.
I have seen blantons listed at $250.00 weller 12 over $200.00 both way over hyped and overpriced.
They're good but not great and not really worth more than retail price. Pappy way over hyped and not worth more retail.
Craziness
Flipped whiskies ... "personal experience" ... eh ? ... i wonder ... but ... DO IT AGAIN: FOR CANADIAN WHISKIES ! ... (( kiddin': dont waste yr time))
Flipping Canadian Whisky? Haha, there isn't much market.