Grandmaster Level Beyond All Reason - 8v8 Cast (Epic RTS)

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @TheJackOfFools
    @TheJackOfFools Рік тому +139

    Man I would love to see what a coordinated 8v8 game would look like, where the players are all used to cooperating as a team, and strategize together.

    • @Veldrin92
      @Veldrin92 Рік тому +15

      With 3 1-minute timeouts per match

    • @__Brandon__
      @__Brandon__ Рік тому +13

      @@Veldrin92 I bet 1 minute mandatory timeouts every 10 minutes would increase the strategy level quite a bit. A lot of who can click faster these days

    • @UnknownSquid
      @UnknownSquid Рік тому +33

      @@__Brandon__ Another thing I always thought would be interesting in these kinda games, would be if each team had an assigned spectator (that only saw what the team saw) to communicate with. I did something like this once with my brother and some friends. The extra player has so much more time to really carefully study the battlefield, and spot both weaknesses in the team as well as opportunities. It really changed how the game played.

    • @donbionicle
      @donbionicle Рік тому +2

      @@UnknownSquid Ah yes, the coach.

    • @blackhand2850
      @blackhand2850 Рік тому

      They all are talking like hel
      l do this
      do that
      wtf
      they broke
      help
      Lets CHARGEEER

  • @Youwanttodream
    @Youwanttodream Рік тому +29

    I actually love that all the units and buildings of the losing team blow up bit by bit at the end, it makes for this big fireworks show followed by soothing silence as you contemplate the end of the game. It's very well done !

  • @catbert7
    @catbert7 Рік тому +7

    BAR buildings are so volatile that it may as well be They Are Billions competitive: one enemy gets into the base and it's all over.

    • @UnknownSquid
      @UnknownSquid Рік тому +6

      Very true. Although it does still confound me on why the majority of players still insist on building their base so tightly packed that it's a one-shot powder keg waiting to go off. Even without the fancy spacing commands, it's not that hard to just build quick lines of wind turbines rather than solid blocks. Or to build your fusion reactors in little groups of two, rather than a glowing mass of 8 with your energy converters and storage weaved between them like a fuse of demolition cord.

    • @WatermeloniusXVI
      @WatermeloniusXVI Місяць тому

      @@UnknownSquid I'd imagine the main reason is that if you're in a position that the enemy can take those out then you're still fairly screwed regardless so why bother

  • @frydac
    @frydac Рік тому +5

    Best BAR cast I've seen, I hope devs are inspired by this to make casting more a priority to make it even better.
    I've been playing this game a little bit here and there for years now, but it seemed so much to learn, and I didn't really feel like investing the time. But by watching your streams and vids, I got motivated and am slowly improving and enjoying the game more, thanks

  • @dubhd4r4
    @dubhd4r4 Рік тому +28

    A Winter Pro BAR cast!I'm glad I stayed up and caught this one live, we were all amazed!!!

  • @TheDeathlyG
    @TheDeathlyG Рік тому +10

    Thank you for the video!! It would be nice during the openings to talk about bots vs vehicles vs air openings different players are going for, and what type of roles people go for in these bigger games. Even just an explanation of support vs Frontline, and different ways to hold a front would be super helpful!

    • @EugeneParallax
      @EugeneParallax Рік тому +1

      I think its more suited for a separate tutorial video to explore these roles/builds. Certainly something sought for at the moment.

    • @TheDeathlyG
      @TheDeathlyG Рік тому +1

      @@EugeneParallax I hear you, but I think that during the initial sets of videos, I'd rather know what they are doing "Oh X player is opening double metal into bots" or whatever opener, than tidbits about each of the players who are playing. I just felt like the opening 5 minutes, when it's easiest to follow people's builds, wasn't used to set the groundwork for the players lineups very well.

    • @EugeneParallax
      @EugeneParallax Рік тому

      @@TheDeathlyG I agree, but I just think that many viewers might not find it informative, at least not to understand implications for the chosen strategy in context of the team matchup. I actually think it will be a perfect second tutorial video to explore these different tech paths and the advantages/risks they introduce.

  • @StaffanNilsson1
    @StaffanNilsson1 Рік тому +5

    Really good job commentating these matches! Keep up the good work!

  • @ExtraRaven_
    @ExtraRaven_ Рік тому +1

    really enjoyed this cast, i wasnt sure how well this game would be in terms of casting but everything seems to come together just great, thanks for making great videos

    • @UnknownSquid
      @UnknownSquid Рік тому

      It's a nightmarishly hectic game to try and keep track of every important moment, but at the same time, there's never a single dull moment either.
      The constant back and forth, and high potential for shock comebacks, have always made the TA/SupCom genre of RTS my favourite to watch by far.

  • @wojciechkups2914
    @wojciechkups2914 Рік тому +4

    I’ve been looking forward to this!
    Here we gooo!

  • @warppooted
    @warppooted Рік тому +10

    Love your BAR videos Winter, keep em coming

  • @nERVEcenter117
    @nERVEcenter117 Рік тому +2

    What a fantastic freaking game. I'd love more of these casts, watching you play is fascinating but you're hilarious when casting.

  • @nktslp3650
    @nktslp3650 Рік тому +23

    Finally ! A pro cast from you ! Amazing.

  • @Bdubuc0401
    @Bdubuc0401 Рік тому +3

    Cool cast! It's neat seeing this game from a spectator's view instead of a player's.

  • @Vevvev8
    @Vevvev8 Рік тому +10

    There were a lot of amazing plays, especially towards the end. I definitely need to explore the unit roster a bit more, wow.

  • @waylanddavick9459
    @waylanddavick9459 Рік тому +1

    Awesome cast! You're gonna be a big name in casting, dude, keep it up.

  • @Bokille
    @Bokille Рік тому +1

    The very dawn of the BAR,thislooksgoooood!Great cast Winter!👍

  • @lazygrindgaming
    @lazygrindgaming Рік тому +3

    So many great plays here, enjoyed the show!

  • @RaikoH6644
    @RaikoH6644 Рік тому +1

    Quality cast, great content!

  • @Jon47222
    @Jon47222 Рік тому +3

    What a great game! Had me on the edge of my seat!

  • @tylerk6632
    @tylerk6632 9 місяців тому

    "WELL YA SEE MACK, CONTROL ON THE OASIS IS CRITICAL, those rich sediment deposits are great for hops and hops are great for beer"

  • @tonyromero8219
    @tonyromero8219 Рік тому +3

    I dont even play RTS games. Idk why youtube wanted me to watch this. Very entertaining though.

  • @DJHawkB
    @DJHawkB Рік тому +1

    Yes! I love seeing you cast BAR. Hope to see more of this alongside the StarCraft stuff. ❤

  • @ayylien5934
    @ayylien5934 Рік тому +4

    MomsBoyToy is the most toxic guy I've met so far after playing a game with him today

    • @kirktown2046
      @kirktown2046 Рік тому +3

      Report him please, he's harassed other players too.

  • @SimplySacredNow
    @SimplySacredNow Рік тому

    "remember, I don't know much, but I'm very good at saying things confidently".. Lol!

  • @ZachRE88
    @ZachRE88 Рік тому +1

    EvolvedMonkey putting on a show. The wall of Tachyons was also very entertaining

  • @T-Sepideus
    @T-Sepideus 4 місяці тому

    You have raised the BAR

  • @seongwookhong6608
    @seongwookhong6608 Рік тому

    YES! I have waited this for this!

  • @prismaticbeetle3194
    @prismaticbeetle3194 4 місяці тому

    this game is a dream come true

  • @laurikaldamae6841
    @laurikaldamae6841 Рік тому

    The EMP "missiles" were actually self-detonating spy bots. And if you see a crater this big (and don't see another one just as big), you know that you have missed a nuke. Excellent camera work tho, you got several big events just in time. Also, nice comments: nuke hits base - "well, that certainly not gonna help".

  • @burnmybread4985
    @burnmybread4985 Рік тому

    This video randomly popped up on my recommended so I started watching. I noticed an uncanny resemblance to total annihilation so I looked up the game and realized it was indeed a homage game. Now gonna try the game lol

  • @Adalore
    @Adalore Рік тому

    it's neat recognizing player names. and being like "OHhyeah, I have fought these guys some." Including having uhh I think evolved monkey going "Poor soul" on one 8v8 as 3 players shoved three economies worth of spam into my front line.

  • @lorddragontree
    @lorddragontree Рік тому +2

    I think some of those emps were the suicide unit.

  • @Yayaloy9
    @Yayaloy9 Рік тому

    i have bad eyesight feels like im watching pixelated vsing each other

  • @szymonnieciecki5138
    @szymonnieciecki5138 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic, please cast more and 1v1 and other matches if possible too ❤

  • @piotr780
    @piotr780 2 місяці тому

    39:12 look at blue at the mape - nuked xD

  • @jwdeepsky
    @jwdeepsky Рік тому

    This guy is frickin entertaining

  • @HistoryIsAbsurd
    @HistoryIsAbsurd 10 місяців тому

    Can confirm, never played, very confused, very entertained!

  • @talldruid81
    @talldruid81 Рік тому +1

    Haha love this recap, im pretty certain your rank 1 when it comes to strat commentary, well.. #2 if you count totalbusicuit ;p would have loved to see him do a commentary on this game aswell q.q

  • @Mupersega
    @Mupersega Рік тому +1

    Definitely opportunities for you as a content creator in this space. Keep it up make it good :)

  • @LeonSparrow
    @LeonSparrow Рік тому

    Thank you wintergaming

  • @pauldraper1736
    @pauldraper1736 Рік тому

    22:10 The greenscreen'ed water bottle :D

  • @rogernewcomb9014
    @rogernewcomb9014 Рік тому

    Armada or cortex? Wow, plays on Core and Arm from Total Annihilation that closely? That's kinda awesome.

  • @mattfirestone1
    @mattfirestone1 Рік тому

    There's a happy face on the map!

  • @jtheexistentialist1221
    @jtheexistentialist1221 Рік тому

    This looks so much better on my phone then on my PC.

  • @unclenchasbestos
    @unclenchasbestos Рік тому +2

    Winter, I've watched about half your BAR videos (and 99 percent of your SC2 videos) this year (absent permanent twitch sub as well)
    TL/DR this is SO MUCH BETTER than watching you play 🎉🎉🎉🎉 and it's as fun as watching SC2 pro casts.
    I stuck with BAR bc it's clearly a great game, but when you're playing (note I've only watched teams) I have little idea what's happening and the huge zoom required means it's just ugly. Like, it might as well be huge Atari 5200 games with nukes. And there's no NARRATIVE, no tactical combat or micro. I mean it may be happening but I can't tell. Game is like "the blobs are making blobs" for 15 minutes and then a commander dies or the beaver dam collapses.
    Whereas here and now you can zoom in, see the missiles flying and tell a story. Love it!

  • @MicheleAria
    @MicheleAria Рік тому

    This game is stupidly fun

  • @jtheexistentialist1221
    @jtheexistentialist1221 Рік тому

    It takes so long to get I to a game I end up doing a single play skirmish.

  • @dylancakes
    @dylancakes Рік тому +1

    This is the way.

  • @dukecunning7046
    @dukecunning7046 Рік тому

    Thanks Winter! 🙂

  • @jgillservices
    @jgillservices Рік тому

    a lot of the higher ranked players are in europe so you'll see quite a few high ranks playing at european time. most of the time all are welcome to join games with the higher ranks but sometimes we will put a minimum rank lock on the battle room.

  • @stevdor6146
    @stevdor6146 Рік тому

    Would it be cool if players were only able to control a squad of units from first person perspectiv? And switching viewpoints between cockpits when the lead unit is destroyed. Able to switch models/buy more units back at base. You would need 2-3 teammates attacking together to get a diverse composition. Would get the feel that instead of commanding overhead you are more in it like battlefield 2142

  • @TheoTheLeo
    @TheoTheLeo Рік тому

    More BAR winter i love it homie

  • @kevinlee753
    @kevinlee753 Рік тому

    Great game, downloaded 2 days ago and had my first game yesterday, this RTS game is soooo good!
    But then this video also make me question myself will I be able to be this good, because they are REALLY good.

  • @kiler273
    @kiler273 Рік тому

    thank you

  • @jarrod752
    @jarrod752 3 місяці тому

    _Yo dog, I heard you like RezBots so I got you some RezBots to Rez your Rezbots._

  • @판사님저는오늘만삽니

    what would happen when you lose commander unit? i havent played this game

  • @mackmonro
    @mackmonro Рік тому

    Is this just a smaller simpler copy of supreme commander? And total annihilation? Seems neato!

  • @thatmanreturns
    @thatmanreturns Рік тому

    AFUS, otherwise known as “AFUSsy”

  • @Scyte89
    @Scyte89 Рік тому +3

    This game is a god damn spectacle with anything more than 4v4, I don't want to be mean but this 8v8 makes Supreme Commander looks like "baby first RTS" :P

    • @yang8244
      @yang8244 Рік тому +1

      they sometimes host 16v16 games

    • @Scyte89
      @Scyte89 Рік тому

      @@yang8244 that's just unhealthy :P

  • @KKND89
    @KKND89 Рік тому

    why do the payers off set built the metal extractors from the metal spots? Why not on top of them?

    • @shadow7988
      @shadow7988 Рік тому

      slightly faster when you have buildings queued up. The placement allows you to minimize the amount of time the builder is moving around instead of constructing.

  • @TWLpontus
    @TWLpontus Рік тому

    Wow that was a epic game!

  • @MunchyHam
    @MunchyHam Рік тому

    Sick game!

  • @ironyconfident
    @ironyconfident Рік тому

    idle air Transports will help units reach their rally point.

  • @JohnSmith-lc1ml
    @JohnSmith-lc1ml 10 місяців тому

    You're a very odd but very enjoyable fellow to watch/listen to

  • @litodito6424
    @litodito6424 Рік тому

    Love it!

  • @MyriadColorsCM
    @MyriadColorsCM Рік тому

    Incredible match.

  • @StarFox31
    @StarFox31 Рік тому

    Anyone know if unit experience and levels do anything? Do they shoot faster?

  • @galvanizeddreamer2051
    @galvanizeddreamer2051 Рік тому

    The aesthetic of this game looks like if a bunch of rival Eggmans got into a fight. I love it and I hate it.

  • @CPT_Nelson
    @CPT_Nelson Рік тому

    I keep seeing players placing metal extractors AROUND metal nods, is there a reason for this? I thought you could only get metal from a nod when building an extractor on it.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 Рік тому +4

      You don't have to build right on the metal node just within its range and you still get full benefits, only 1 extractorgets all the metal.

    • @EugeneParallax
      @EugeneParallax Рік тому +1

      The reasoning is that an ex placed directly on the node is easy to kick out blindly, such as with manual area-attack order or bombing runs. Also, when you start the match, placing exes on the nodes will require moving around, while you can place them offset standing still which saves several seconds of buildup and can marginally affect further plays (especially given some builders are not very maneuverable).

    • @kirktown2046
      @kirktown2046 Рік тому

      In practice, press Z to build your mex and point your mouse toward the desired metal, it'll automatically built it as far toward direction as possible while getting max metal. So this corner building takes pretty much no thought/effort.

  • @trawelgrad5471
    @trawelgrad5471 6 місяців тому

    That in WH 41k universe please :)

  • @fioralangust
    @fioralangust 7 місяців тому

    Yeah... Chain reaction is a little bit OP...

  • @dumnor
    @dumnor Рік тому

    I think this game would benefit from having logarithmic income indicators for casters :D

  • @dskinnerify
    @dskinnerify Рік тому

    ya these are a lot of really good players

  • @ygreaterr
    @ygreaterr Рік тому

    i really want this on steam!!!

  • @T0tenkampf
    @T0tenkampf Рік тому +2

    every game i have seen MBT in so far leads me to believe he is 10 or just a butthead

    • @UnknownSquid
      @UnknownSquid Рік тому +1

      Lol. I was so close to posting a comment about this last night, but held off not wanting to be toxic or judge too quickly, but it seems I'm not the only one.
      I played with MBT last week. Around the 7 minute mark he totally freaked out in chat at the rest of the team for not sending him enough backup soon enough, scribbling a mess all over the map like an angry toddler, and implied the game was over. Then we all rolled forwards and wiped out the enemy. Was a totally one sided match. He didn't even die or get pushed or anything, just had a couple light laser towers taken out. Seriously needs to chill and lay off the chat.

    • @T0tenkampf
      @T0tenkampf Рік тому

      @UnknownSquid seems right. In one game he chastised winter for not taking a starting spot and then demanded winter give him a level 10 mineral deposit which winter had immediately ran out and grabbed with his commander instead of starting at that spot. Good player for sure but ffs.

  • @slapaway8510
    @slapaway8510 Рік тому

    Is anyone running this on mac?

  • @Ekstrax
    @Ekstrax Рік тому

    what in the unholy Supreme Commander Knock Off is this?
    Just joking, this just proves there's still a market for these things :p

  • @toreger2852
    @toreger2852 11 місяців тому

    Cool that you give this game, that does something original, attention, instead of jumping on the big starcraft wannabe's popping up these days

  • @acqua_gaming
    @acqua_gaming Рік тому

    Epic!

  • @aurawolf664
    @aurawolf664 11 місяців тому

    Flash is insane

  • @manumaster1990
    @manumaster1990 Рік тому +1

    nice

  • @jgbeerx
    @jgbeerx 3 місяці тому

    Winter got me into bar and then dipped out lol rip

  • @tacolord2100
    @tacolord2100 Рік тому +1

    Better rts is Zero-k, also free but with way more units and buildings!!!

  • @piotr780
    @piotr780 2 місяці тому

    16:13 if they would push adainst AFUS the game would we over ! that is why AI based teams would dominate human ones

  • @TheCrazyZebra1
    @TheCrazyZebra1 Рік тому

    Let's go

  • @глебновиков-ъ5ъ

    it s looks like supcom, but i don t remember this game

  • @drpeabody1946
    @drpeabody1946 Рік тому

    A great game, but the admins are hyper-active. Just one example from today, as per their mod bot:
    "(player) has been moderated.
    Reason: Griefing by destroying your own base even if the game is clearly lost, just resign instead., Restriction: Login" (2 day ban)

  • @davidklemen5264
    @davidklemen5264 8 місяців тому

    the game seems intimidating and i atfirst quit after my first game because i got rockem sockemed by the easiest ai in the game.. but i retried it a few days ago and it seemed .. just so damn good!

  • @romanclub
    @romanclub Рік тому

    Game name please

  • @BCG88
    @BCG88 Рік тому

    Emp is just too strong. Ghost is too broken for what it can do.... wait.... wrong game. Those juggernauts are super menacing though! This game looks awesome , especially from a casted view.

  • @ezequieltellez9082
    @ezequieltellez9082 Рік тому

    niceeeeee XD

  • @maniteegaming6613
    @maniteegaming6613 Рік тому

    i skiped 8th period to watch this

  • @Zecuto
    @Zecuto Рік тому

    As much as I enjoy BAR games on your channel, I feel like 45 minutes and longer per video is a commitment that makes it harder for me to click on a video.
    Initially I watched every bar video in it's entirety, and then it got hard and I thought that maybe that's because novelty has worn off and you are not yet knowledgeable enough about bar to provide commentary that would keep me hooked during slower parts of the game. But now that you give that commentary, I realized that maybe it's not the reason. I don't really know the solution or if you even need to change anything and it's simply a "me" problem.
    Just wanted to give some feedback due to feeling conflicted about it as of late, because I enjoy BAR games, but feel bad tanking the algorithm by not watching every video you make. Thank you for the great content you upload.

  • @wilshireanasurimbor3068
    @wilshireanasurimbor3068 Рік тому +2

    Kinda rough to watch. The game was lost in the first 5ish, maybe10 minutes, and then 40 minutes of dying slowly.

  • @XtaReplay
    @XtaReplay Рік тому

    Noooo !Baaaaartoooo!

  • @joshuagray6061
    @joshuagray6061 Рік тому

    Looks like you might be due for a computer upgrade. Awesome cast though.

  • @DafcX
    @DafcX Рік тому

    the game is good for the battles, must have been fun if ur not trying to win but other than that it was lost pretty fast and for teammates who want to go for wins it was not so fun and a waste of time

    • @EugeneParallax
      @EugeneParallax Рік тому +1

      Well there is good oppostunities for comebacks, unlike many other strategy games, because you can revive your and enemy units and buildings, and you also can assist your surviving teammates in ways that allows them to turn the tide, such as with some of the bombing runs you've witnessed here. Resources are infinite, and so there's always opportunities to impact the outcome. It all depends on counters and what you may predict to happen in a few next minutes. For example, the river player could've invested into a Flagship, which is more-less a rapid-fire artillery piece that can cover almost the entire map and can whittle down even Juggernauts. There's no telling how it would end up in that case.

  • @A123-d8o
    @A123-d8o Рік тому

    do some tutorials pls

  • @FrankyFes
    @FrankyFes Рік тому

    grand master level and 0 dispersion of the volatile production buildings..... shame if someone bombed them.... other than that nice game as always.

  • @amn7319
    @amn7319 Рік тому

    Need to work on your camera controls. The jittery movements sorta ruin the viewing experience.