So the question about the flak… a bit of an oops, but I was just so surprised after being able to freely bomb his base and to find a tonne of additional anti-air over the other front. Wasn't tryna be mean :(
From the losing side it may look bm. But from my side (observor) I felt it was a legit question. Why no flak to protect AFUS when he saw so many aircrafts... Anyway. GG WP !
I love the visible cursors it makes watching replays so much better. Also when youre playing 8v8 and someone breaks through somewhere on the map, its hilarious to see 16 cursors frantically microing units everywhere.
It feels like no one is really _really_ good at this game yet, which is exciting, because it feels like when people really know what they're doing, there is room for a multitude of strategies to employ.
The game needs to be balanced correctly. Most of 'Core' units have way too much HP. As a 'Arm' player I'm forced to spam tachyon cannons. They are also overpowered lol.
before BAR there was BA, the game BAR is based upon. in some iteration this game has basically been around for 20~ years. there are players playing BAR who have been here for 20 years. if the players who have been playing for 15+ years aren't really good then i don't know what to say. obviously we are always happy to have new players who might be the next "pro" top ranker to show us new strats and tactics.
@@miguelf.6827 Yeah, I still keep up with BAR, I love so much about it. I mean, not only does the meta change every week, but so does the game balance. I mean, they're still adding a third faction that is distinctly different from the other two so... I feel like my point stands.
Duuuuude. Watching that thor march into the front line about to wreck things then just get erased by the D gun was amazing. That Thor (and we) didn't see it coming!
What an absolutely insane match! When the vid started and epic battles were already going down i thought "oh that's different, Winter doesn't usually do a teaser..." Then it just kept going and getting even more intense for 45 more minutes! Holy crapoli. Love to see it!
I think MasterBel's critique of MightySheep's flakgun locations was him being mildly upset that such an EPIC 1v1 that almost never happens ended with a bombing run on advanced fusion reactors. Such an anti-climactic end that could've devolved into even more insane fights ended with a right-click with bombers.
The Annihilator is what the Pulsar was called in Total Annihilation. Fired a single extremely strong shot instead of the more pulse like shot that the Pulsar fires.
the pulsars popping down and up is masterbel turning them off and on. when you turn them off they shut down and turtle, meaning they take considerably less damage but not being able to shoot.
This was epic! So glad you've gotten so into this game. I really hope you branch out further, there are more RTS games out there that you will love, Winter!
Nice commentary. Been playing this for a year or so after playing Warzone 2100 and Zero-K as well as most of the commercial RTS titles. BAR is really well made and polished IMO.
Annihilator is the TA name of the pulsar yes. It is what makes Armada so strong in BAR at the T2 stage because their range is insanely better than the Bullwark, the Coretex equivalent. A good counter for pulsars is Dragons (T2 planes) coz pulsars can't fire in the air (they used to in TA).
Fantastic, I really wanted to see a 1vs1 Cortex bots vs Armada bots early game. In theory (and in practice) is extremely hard to play with Armada early on with bots because your basic unit the Pawn it's outmatched by it's counterpart the Grunts given they have the same speed, less range, less accurate and being more expensive. Using ticks early on instead seems quite effective although with little room for error.
tbf, it just means you have to play more defensively, and if the opponent screws up their micro Pawns absolutely destroy Grunts metal for metal. Not to mention that Grunts use energy to fire, meaning a good push when the wind is low could at the very least gain some ground, and at the very most kill all the Grunts and get some good raiding going on.
@@MediaevalJames I would say is the opposite, you want to be aggresive against Grunts because when you are being defensive is a lot easier to bully the Pawns lack of range and, if you are the one attacking you force the opponent to react and this can lead to micro mistakes. But the odds are completely against you even if you play well though. The Grunts do use energy weapons but I don't understand what you mean with push when the wind is low unless is a mechanic I am not ware of. They don't need energy to fire, but they deal half damage at max range
Can you please go in depth on what's a good/acceptable/great wind speed for wind turbines and hydro? How much resources you need to start building construction buildings?
gonna be honest I kinda forgot that the commander is the actual win condition: in team games you only need 1 remaining per team so they don't matter beyond being a good unit that everyone has...which is to say that how the players use them _absolutely_ matters but they are not really treated as a win condition...hell, half the time they just blow their commander up themselves to get at the tasty tasty metal in their corpse for building their infrastructure.
Ignore the SC2 hardliners who are irritated at you playing this amazing game. I hope you don't stop! BAR is way more entertaining both to play and watch than SC2 for me personally, and I say that as a fan of SC2, but they are such different games and very different experiences and BAR is a take on the genre that needs more attention and love.
not to be *that guy* but at 6:00 the core player could *easily* have rotated north around the commander and killed it with those ten grunts in about 4 seconds, which is how *most* 1v1's go, wildly ending on t1 in the first ten minutes, which I think is actually super unsatisfying and I'd love if the usual game would go up to tier 3 units like this one did because the spectacle of tier 2 and up battle lines facing each other down is super cool and I love watching it, and I love playing it too I can understand if that balance doesn't manifest itself for many reasons, including just the inertia of the balance as it exists at this point in development, but I can't help dreaming all the same
trying to do that can be incredibly risky because at that stage of the game, 10 grunts is a significant portion of his army and a high skill player like masterbel would probably dgun them easily.
48:40 To be fair that is one of rookie mistakes to not shove your main eco as far away from the enemy as possible while also shoving as much anti-sniping defenses around it.
Instead of CTLR+T I prefer to ALT+Scroll wheel to zoom in and out quickyl without changing the angle which is a bit more comfortable to my eyes and brain.
Overdrawn intro man I wanted to know wtf they were doing their first moves. Commentate more on the battle especially the beginning and their placements and production and the advantages/disadvantages of whatever is going on
Do we know if any brood war / sc2 players or really any pro RTS players are playing this? Hopefully with you covering this game on the regular, it gets the attention it deserves. This game is easily worth $20-30 especially if that income lead to more features and a Dev team able to fully focus on this and truly bring out its full potential. The best part is no ghosts with EMP!! Looking forward to angry coach covering this game potentially in the future.
@@ben10lol that could potentially be amazing in this game. I don't know enough about the game yet to form an opinion, let alone complain about balance. But soon hopefully.
This game in some iteration has been around for 20~ years. some players have been playing that long. if these guys are not "pro" at BAR i dont know who is. anyway we are always welcome for more players and more "pros" to come and challenge and even surpass us so we can learn new things.
We have top player from Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander now, and yet it’s still the BA/BAR veterans ruling the roost. ((I’ve dropped a bunch in rating tho))
Just when I thought winter was starting to get better at casting he does this video where instead of watching the battle I get to see setting screens while he picks background units and zooms in on one tank that is not fighting while a battle ensues elsewhere. Is it my fault for continuing to give winter another chance?
Really like the replay games, but the fps cam is really not great, it's very entertaining for me seeing all of the various things happening on the map and when we go fps cam we basically see nothing, we lose all context
throws all his bombers into the fighter wall on a one in a million chance they'll get through to kill a fusion, then he starts whining about how he can't figure out how to kill pulsars, while they're completely isolated from any static air defense on the front. You gotta love playing new strategy games, these are not like SC2 pro's who never make mistakes, everyone's kinda bad right now.
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Please continue playing and casting this game!
I second that motion
Yes! This game is absolutely sick and I need more. I can't stop playing it and watching content.
@@botmes4044 I second third that motion
So the question about the flak… a bit of an oops, but I was just so surprised after being able to freely bomb his base and to find a tonne of additional anti-air over the other front. Wasn't tryna be mean :(
O hai it’s the guy
It was a bloody good question tbh!
It's both a good question and a dick move. Actually, it's also little different to a rhetorical question since you don't really expect an answer...
From the losing side it may look bm. But from my side (observor) I felt it was a legit question. Why no flak to protect AFUS when he saw so many aircrafts... Anyway. GG WP !
I love the visible cursors it makes watching replays so much better. Also when youre playing 8v8 and someone breaks through somewhere on the map, its hilarious to see 16 cursors frantically microing units everywhere.
hahahahahaha
It feels like no one is really _really_ good at this game yet, which is exciting, because it feels like when people really know what they're doing, there is room for a multitude of strategies to employ.
The game needs to be balanced correctly. Most of 'Core' units have way too much HP. As a 'Arm' player I'm forced to spam tachyon cannons. They are also overpowered lol.
before BAR there was BA, the game BAR is based upon. in some iteration this game has basically been around for 20~ years. there are players playing BAR who have been here for 20 years. if the players who have been playing for 15+ years aren't really good then i don't know what to say. obviously we are always happy to have new players who might be the next "pro" top ranker to show us new strats and tactics.
I agree bar playerbase sucks
Hello, one year later people say the fucking meta changes by the week
@@miguelf.6827 Yeah, I still keep up with BAR, I love so much about it. I mean, not only does the meta change every week, but so does the game balance. I mean, they're still adding a third faction that is distinctly different from the other two so... I feel like my point stands.
Im a starcraft fan AND a BAR fan.
And Im ecstatic that you're making so much BAR content, especially as a major Supreme Commander fan as well.
18:56 This needs to be in a recap for best comedic ideas from winter. I saw it twice.
Man i really enjoy how much fun you have casting matches. you make it so damn funny and even educational. Keep it up :)
Finally an rts that is fun to watch and fun to play
and it is free
TA-like RTSs are all crazy good.
@@gobbibomb It's better than free, it's FOSS
Was kind of shocked at how slow the game became but the FPS fiend view camera was HILARIOUS. I will watch Winter cast this game for sure
19:03 Winter National Geographic
35:30 Billy's First Person View
37:40 Tier 3s
44:44 Thor dGunned
Duuuuude. Watching that thor march into the front line about to wreck things then just get erased by the D gun was amazing. That Thor (and we) didn't see it coming!
What an absolutely insane match! When the vid started and epic battles were already going down i thought "oh that's different, Winter doesn't usually do a teaser..."
Then it just kept going and getting even more intense for 45 more minutes!
Holy crapoli. Love to see it!
I think MasterBel's critique of MightySheep's flakgun locations was him being mildly upset that such an EPIC 1v1 that almost never happens ended with a bombing run on advanced fusion reactors. Such an anti-climactic end that could've devolved into even more insane fights ended with a right-click with bombers.
Pulsar ARE a bit unfair with them having more range than artillery
The Annihilator is what the Pulsar was called in Total Annihilation. Fired a single extremely strong shot instead of the more pulse like shot that the Pulsar fires.
the pulsars popping down and up is masterbel turning them off and on. when you turn them off they shut down and turtle, meaning they take considerably less damage but not being able to shoot.
20 minutes in and Winter has dawned a David Attenborough accent and is narrating ... Glorious
I took notice of Beyond All Reason like a few years ago. It was small and I wasn't sure. Now? Holy crap. I desire this now!
This isn't a casting of a game of BAR. This is ART. In it's natural habitat... Winter's magnificent mind...
This was epic! So glad you've gotten so into this game. I really hope you branch out further, there are more RTS games out there that you will love, Winter!
More! It's really nice to see top tier players and what the build order variance they have early game are!
That was the best BAR 1v1 I've seen =0
And the first time I've seen anyone use the follow-cam! Great stuff, Winter.
14:02 thx for the tips and tricks!
19:13 LMAO
45:01 WOW
Thx for the video!
Bro for real keep doin this game ❤❤❤ thx winter for everything your guide and cast listen to every single one of them
I love watching your casts, dude. Very chill to watch with my dinner or with a beer. I like your commentary style.
Nice commentary. Been playing this for a year or so after playing Warzone 2100 and Zero-K as well as most of the commercial RTS titles. BAR is really well made and polished IMO.
you do a great job casting, thank you
I love how the game records the equivalent of APM for observers too lol.
That was an amazing game to go so late, and back and forth. Red with the eco lead early and then blue with a great push to even it up.
Started off watching BAR skeptically, now I find myself looking for more.
@35:32 lol 😆 great live action commentary.
Annihilator is the TA name of the pulsar yes. It is what makes Armada so strong in BAR at the T2 stage because their range is insanely better than the Bullwark, the Coretex equivalent. A good counter for pulsars is Dragons (T2 planes) coz pulsars can't fire in the air (they used to in TA).
Not really, anti air is so cheap.
@@Phoenixklinge You'd need a ton of anti air to stop a few dragons.
incredible game! more long 1v1's with tech 2 and 3 please!
This is so sick! Gonna start playing over the weekend
I'm really pleased you enjoy this game because that means i get to enjoy the content you put out.
Love the content a lot Winter!
One day when I win a big BAR tournament I will say that I learned from you Winter. You are the best!🤗
This was great, please do more
Jaguars in their natural habitat!!!🐈
best 1v1 i have seen so far thank you
Those pulsars are really strong I didnt know they could fend off so many units. Great cast and great game from both players!
I am really digging the realistic texrtures of the maps.
Crazy entertaining games these high level 1v1.
keep pushing this game I've played it a little and its pretty fun
Love your commentary. You crack me up so much, dude... :D
The CARPET BOMBING LOOKS SO SICK !!!!!!! I NEED THIS GAME LOL !
Fantastic, I really wanted to see a 1vs1 Cortex bots vs Armada bots early game. In theory (and in practice) is extremely hard to play with Armada early on with bots because your basic unit the Pawn it's outmatched by it's counterpart the Grunts given they have the same speed, less range, less accurate and being more expensive. Using ticks early on instead seems quite effective although with little room for error.
tbf, it just means you have to play more defensively, and if the opponent screws up their micro Pawns absolutely destroy Grunts metal for metal. Not to mention that Grunts use energy to fire, meaning a good push when the wind is low could at the very least gain some ground, and at the very most kill all the Grunts and get some good raiding going on.
@@MediaevalJames I would say is the opposite, you want to be aggresive against Grunts because when you are being defensive is a lot easier to bully the Pawns lack of range and, if you are the one attacking you force the opponent to react and this can lead to micro mistakes. But the odds are completely against you even if you play well though.
The Grunts do use energy weapons but I don't understand what you mean with push when the wind is low unless is a mechanic I am not ware of. They don't need energy to fire, but they deal half damage at max range
@@Etruscots Guess I was mistaken on that last part about energy to fire. I might have been thinking of turret lasers in that regard.
for anyone who's old enough, remember robocraft? yeah that "first person" camera angle is hitting all the robocraft feels lmfao
When too many fighters is translated to not enough flak. GG.
Building those Advanced Fusion Reactors IN THE BASE, turned out to be reds biggest mistake.
There's nothing more natural than nuclear fusion. It's the reason you and I exist in the first place ;)
We need more Beyond All Reason Winter! I'm starved!
People miss 200 supply armies? How cute... * Laughs in 1000 bot army. *
the crazy air on the top left of the map hurts my head lol
of note: one building can make 'decoy commanders' that also have 300 build power
12:30 sound effects soooo cool
please keep casting this Supreme Commander Clone.
Annihilator is the old TA turret the Pulsar is based on. Spot the old school players!
Can you please go in depth on what's a good/acceptable/great wind speed for wind turbines and hydro? How much resources you need to start building construction buildings?
yeah this game is good saw another vid from you was not convinced but now i am.
24:50 World of warcraft theme music?? It really reminds me of it at least.
the fighter spam is to overwhelm air defense while nuke bombers snipe the enemy commander
Super epic. I hope to see 1v1 continue to playout to late game
gonna be honest I kinda forgot that the commander is the actual win condition: in team games you only need 1 remaining per team so they don't matter beyond being a good unit that everyone has...which is to say that how the players use them _absolutely_ matters but they are not really treated as a win condition...hell, half the time they just blow their commander up themselves to get at the tasty tasty metal in their corpse for building their infrastructure.
Yooo Winter finally covered MasterBel! Bel is great for the community
Thanks :)
Ignore the SC2 hardliners who are irritated at you playing this amazing game. I hope you don't stop! BAR is way more entertaining both to play and watch than SC2 for me personally, and I say that as a fan of SC2, but they are such different games and very different experiences and BAR is a take on the genre that needs more attention and love.
Annihilator was the name of that turret in total annihilation
It's crazy how many units are from ta but with different names
Had no idea this game was in development since 2010.
Great casting
not to be *that guy* but at 6:00 the core player could *easily* have rotated north around the commander and killed it with those ten grunts in about 4 seconds, which is how *most* 1v1's go, wildly ending on t1 in the first ten minutes, which I think is actually super unsatisfying and I'd love if the usual game would go up to tier 3 units like this one did
because the spectacle of tier 2 and up battle lines facing each other down is super cool and I love watching it, and I love playing it too
I can understand if that balance doesn't manifest itself for many reasons, including just the inertia of the balance as it exists at this point in development, but I can't help dreaming all the same
trying to do that can be incredibly risky because at that stage of the game, 10 grunts is a significant portion of his army and a high skill player like masterbel would probably dgun them easily.
A tier 3 in 1v1? What a rare sight
excellent cast!
Ah, I've been waiting for another BAR video for 2 days xD
How do you launch the Thor missiles?
48:40 To be fair that is one of rookie mistakes to not shove your main eco as far away from the enemy as possible while also shoving as much anti-sniping defenses around it.
19:10 lol nice
Instead of CTLR+T I prefer to ALT+Scroll wheel to zoom in and out quickyl without changing the angle which is a bit more comfortable to my eyes and brain.
Is there any way pf having what they’re building?
Игра хорошая, надеюсь на релизе о ней будут знать куда больше людей. Желаю успехов игре и автору
Overdrawn intro man I wanted to know wtf they were doing their first moves. Commentate more on the battle especially the beginning and their placements and production and the advantages/disadvantages of whatever is going on
Hi! 👋😄
maaah boiii is in TV!!!
My problem with Ctrl T is that it rotates the camera back to default every time.
We want to see more
Does "ARMOR" really exist? or it's just HP?
Do we know if any brood war / sc2 players or really any pro RTS players are playing this? Hopefully with you covering this game on the regular, it gets the attention it deserves. This game is easily worth $20-30 especially if that income lead to more features and a Dev team able to fully focus on this and truly bring out its full potential.
The best part is no ghosts with EMP!! Looking forward to angry coach covering this game potentially in the future.
Wait until you hear about the unit named ghost that self-destructs into an emp bomb. It's also invisible and only detectable when right next to it.
@@ben10lol that could potentially be amazing in this game. I don't know enough about the game yet to form an opinion, let alone complain about balance. But soon hopefully.
This game in some iteration has been around for 20~ years. some players have been playing that long. if these guys are not "pro" at BAR i dont know who is. anyway we are always welcome for more players and more "pros" to come and challenge and even surpass us so we can learn new things.
We have top player from Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander now, and yet it’s still the BA/BAR veterans ruling the roost. ((I’ve dropped a bunch in rating tho))
this map is trippy
This game will never be mainstream competitive
Amazing !
Just when I thought winter was starting to get better at casting he does this video where instead of watching the battle I get to see setting screens while he picks background units and zooms in on one tank that is not fighting while a battle ensues elsewhere.
Is it my fault for continuing to give winter another chance?
i'm extatic !
nice!
Insane. I was supporting blue because I'm an idiot with no idea. Good job, random people.
Yyyeeeees! Casting!
19:03 made me laugh lol
What a match
Great match
Really like the replay games, but the fps cam is really not great, it's very entertaining for me seeing all of the various things happening on the map and when we go fps cam we basically see nothing, we lose all context
throws all his bombers into the fighter wall on a one in a million chance they'll get through to kill a fusion, then he starts whining about how he can't figure out how to kill pulsars, while they're completely isolated from any static air defense on the front.
You gotta love playing new strategy games, these are not like SC2 pro's who never make mistakes, everyone's kinda bad right now.
It took me 2 minutes to work out this game coming from TA
That a better planetary annihilation
If you have an ai barbarian ally they give you metal and energy unlimited. 😊