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So Buffy is emotionally dulled, experiencing disrupted sleep, & pulling away from those she's closest to. Welcome to one of TVs most accurate portrayals of clinical depression.
and yet she is opening up and confiding in Spike... and comfortable around him.. and randomly also talking about real world stuff. "So what do you know about finances?" (love that tiny line)
Anya's idea about charging for slaying is literally what Angel Investigations does.
I understand the argument against, but everyone treating it like Anya's hyper-capitalist wackiness feels unnecessary.
Right!? Angel has proven that it's a totally viable source of income and yet they treat Anya like she's terrible for having the idea. I mean, obviously Anya's idea won't literally work, but investigator work would definitely be effective in a town like Sunnydale.
Buffy regards slaying as her calling, not a money-making opportunity.
The Scoobies seem to take pleasure in correcting, reprimanding & treating Anya like an outsider or like she’s useless. (Including Xander who it’s the worst coming from because you know he should have her back as her partner... but god forbid he defend or support her against his friends.) Even though without her suggesting the plan last year with Olaf’s hammer & the dragonsphere what were they gonna do? It just bugs me because she’s always trying & she is a useful member of the team!!
@@dbrockbank7755 Yes! I just rewatched the series this year and it really stuck out to me how much they tend to treat her like shit. Especially in this season and the final season. Anya puts up with so much crap and gets no credit.
The money issue in the Buffyverse irritates me so much. Totally agree that Willow and Tara should be chipping in if they're going to live there. I get that slayers don't usually live long enough to worry about stuff like this (and judging from Kendra's situation, most of them are expected to live with their Watchers, who presumably feed and shelter them). But if the Watchers get paid, there should be some sort of trust fund or something to take care of the slayer.
and can´t Anya help?? She has a huge apartment and Idk I immediatly thought why doesn´t she give a little
@@LittleMissDivine its anya, it would be against her character
Keeping the Slayers penniless and dependent is leverage for the Council to control them. As for Willow and Tara, we don't know that they aren't contributing just because it's not mentioned. Though the writers could've slipped in an 'even with Willow and Tara's rent...'.
Even if the Watchers Council would pay the Slayer, Buffy wouldn`t get anything, because she officially quit in season 3
@@BabyJenks1986 she reinstated Giles as her watcher with full pay in season 5
The thing about Giles scolding Willow is that it probably wasn't all about the whole channeling powerful magic that he was so pissed about, it was because he felt that Willow put herself in so much risk and that risk wasn't something he could take. Like it would've cost her her life and he couldn't bear to lose her just for doing the ritual. He was like a dad to all of them, and to him in was similar to someone like buying a car without getting insurance lol (sorry can't think of another comparison). Irresponsible. But what the worst part about that might be his fear that Buffy's resurrected body would've turned out to be really bad. I'm just thinking that he fears she's not the same Buffy (perhaps, not just physically but even mentally, spiritually, etc.) He figured that Buffy was better off where she was, she was at peace. Or perhaps he also felt that she was really finished and another Slayer would have to take her place even if Faith can't get out of jail yet. *He must've felt like what Willow did was disrespectful to Buffy, assuming she had the right to do that just because she can.*
These early episodes are kind of a slow burn but it ramps up the darkness and craziness soon
The thing about Giles scolding Willow is he used to channel magics. I honestly think Giles screamed at her because of his own experiences as a youth and doesn't see Willow is not him
interesting I never thought about that!
Or he'd been taught about the dangers, ignored the warnings, and found out for himself how bad an idea that was. Willow is finding her own way instead of being taught, which means she's not building on other's experiences.
The least Giles can do is be furious and hope Willow takes the lesson to heart.
I kinda understand Xander not wanting to tell everyone about the engagement. Buffy just got back from what they assume was Hell. She's still getting used to being back and dropping another big revelation, which she'd have to act happy for might be difficult after a trauma. One thing I never understood about the money troubles is that The Watchers get paid by The Council. Shouldn't the Slayers get paid also?
Watching this late at night, I was counting how many episodes were left before my favorite episode of the season, and I got the Nightmare on Elm Street song stuck in my head ... "One, two, Freddy's coming for you. Three, four, better lock your door. ..." And so on. Being tired can definitely make you a bit loopy, with very stream-of-consciousness thoughts in your head.
I really can't understand why Anyas idea is completely brushed off. Getting paid for saving lives is exactly what firefighters and doctors do and nobody thinks that is greedy. Of course she should not charge individuals but the city of Sunnydale or the watchers Council should cover her.
@2:20 made me think of A Pyromaniacs Love Story. Unexpectedly sweet movie.
And agreed. Why weren't Tara and Willow working since they live there?
But yeah, that's the biggest adult world vs growing up theme for me is just that Anya's suggestion bad, accept on Angel where it's a respectable living.
Yeah, Xander is Totally stalling. Like a marriage announcement during the summer wouldn't have helped? And a casual here's what's new with us wouldn't be nice? I mean I get it, him being scared makes sense with his childhood. But you take that leap, it's time to talk about it and be honest. Don't lie, least of all to someone who is brutally honest.
Thanks Giles for asking "How are you?" He's so great 😍. And that conversation with Willow, chills.
Spike
"Do I like it, do I not?" 😂😂
On the point of charging people for saving their lives, Anya's idea was terrible, but it's adjacent to a good idea. The city government presumably knows they are living on a hell mouth, buffy is providing them a major service and could find some way of getting them to offer her a stipend for her work, Giles and the counsel could help set this up.
Willow does NOT know about Rupert "Ripper" Giles and what he does (and does not) know about magic.
They've had five months while Buffy was dead. How is this taking them by surprise?
And, yeah, Tara and Willow should be chipping in for expenses.
If this does not define the American health system then I do not know what does.
This is my least favorite season and one of the many reasons i dislike it is because willow and terra should really be paying rent. It's a normal thing, if buffy willow and terra all had part time jobs then they would have no money problems, they could even work at the same place and then it would even be fun. On top of all this buffy's dad should be paying child support, and finally Giles' salary should really be split between him and buffy if he were still being paid by the counsel, but he probably isn't after leaving.
When is work "fun"?
While we're "being real"... which one of you farted?... It was you, wasn't it? You. There. The one in Cincinnati.
I'm sure Willow and Tara chare whatever money they can afford. Must be an issue of bad writing. They study during the day and, look aftter Dawn, and, as we have seen, slay at night, so no excuse, but time for jobs might have been hard to find.
Kendra once yelled about having her favorite - and only - shirt damaged.
This shows how the Watchers is expected to pay the slayers, who is supposed to die soon anyway.
Episode was good.
Unpopular opinion: I love season six.
I really like this episode- with the exception of the nerd plot stuff. I do have one little big bone to pick: I thought it was SUPER out of character for Willow to a) threaten Giles, and b) out of character for that not sending up a flair to Giles and him addressing it immediately. She fucking THREATENED him. 😧
I don't think you understood that part then. It was out of character for Willow because the magics she has been channeling are starting to take a hold of her. This was the first negative spark we see from Willow because of it. Giles already knows this. Even though he was taken back when she went on the offensive to him, he understood why she said what she said at this point. Therefore he refrained from reacting to it here. He realises he must keep a close watch on her from this point.
Andrew Mathias I understand why she’s acting out of character, I have should specified that, but my problem is that Gile’s didn’t address her threat/the fact that that’s out of so completely out of character for her to say- immediately.. he moved on to talking about Buffy.
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I never understood how Willow and Tara, who live in the Summers' house, weren't at least paying Buffy rent to help her out or had jobs of their own, school or no school.
The fact that Anya suggests exactly what Angel does to earn money and is dismissed shows me that the Scoobies dismissed it because it was something she said. Anya also definitely had a right to be upset with Xander about their situation. He isn't giving Buffy time so much as using Buffy as an excuse for his own cold feet. It always seems to me that there are four Scooby originals and then everyone else as Scooby side characters. The scenes encompassing those things really show that idea well.
As much as I agree with Giles about what he said to Willow, I was confused about him saying he expected her to respect the rules of nature. Has she ever really shown that she does before? Her magic usage has always been at the expense of rushing into it before she should and come with the consequences that she hasn't taken seriously.
I always liked the reason why Buffy is talking more to Spike than anyone else. She is identifying her resurrection with Spike's life as a vampire, she is overall depressed, has a disconnect with her friends for bringing her back, a disconnect from Giles for leaving and is therefore trying to reconnect with him, and Buffy assumes Dawn is too young for Buffy's problems.
Buffy8Fan yeah, the scooby core are an awful bunch, kind of bar Giles! They are so terrible to each other, drove me nuts in Season 4, drove me nuts here, and later in Season 7!
@@zenithquasar9623 In that regard S3 bugged me most. And even Giles on some occasions wasn't any better. The original four's bond always made Cordelia, Angel, Oz, Riley, Anya, Spike, Dawn, Tara, Jenny, Wesley, Joyce, and spoiler characters seem more like outsiders in comparison to the close bond the original four had. And just as you said even with the bond, they were just as terrible to each other also. It always speaks as to why my favorite characters are mostly outside the original four.
@@Buffy8Fan Yeah, it actually makes me question the writers and how they view friendships. I almost feel like, some of this is a cultural American issue but I may be wrong.
@@zenithquasar9623 It's always good to write characters with flaws. It makes the characters more human than the stock note TV characters some shows have when shows are more about plot. I enjoy to dislike the main four's personal life decisions because those decisions feel real.
@@zenithquasar9623 I don't think so. In Angel, I never get the impression there's an outsider mentality. Wesley comes in and is never questioned in that regard. Same with Gunn, Fred and Lorne. Anytime they get rejected it's usually from some personal issue.
Kyle your eyes in some moments............ and my eyes too when I wanna comment so much, but I´m not gonna!!! This is awesome
Beyond happy to see reactors seeing & taking Anya’s side & perpective as VALID! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 So many fans always laugh off her feelings because she’s the show’s resident comic relief. And always defend & take Xander more seriously & his excuse for literally everything...
I´m always on Anya´s side
That’s my buddy, Todd, playing the demon.
Mackenzie, yes! Every one of your reactions was so aligned with how I feel every time I’ve watched this episode. Maybe it’s just a unifying episode, as you and Kyle also had very similar reactions.
Is it just me, or is the “Buffy beating the demon with the pipe” scene *very* “Mommie Dearest”?
“No wire hangers!!! EVER!!!”
great reaction! one thing that I didn't get (but understood that they probably didn't want to add other side characters/plots) was where was Mr Summers after Joyce died? Even if he had a new family now, I would've expected to hear that he was doing something to make sure his daughter(s) were somewhat taken care of to some extent.
Also I just want to say we say so often how the Scooby gang is goals but Jesus do they kinda leave each other hanging so much. Like Xander is my favorite character but the stuff like not taking care of the plumbing at least or helping out with bills really angered me. He could make some cuts to his life to help out the house payments or something. But Willow and Tara were actually living there and weren't paying anything? Anya owns a whole store as well. 4 people, two with very successful jobs at this time couldn't find the money or expertise to help out? What is this kangaroo court?
i know right!!
First off, xander is a carpenter not a plumber, he'd only make it worse and on the money front...no one helped him when he lived in a basement with his abusive family and he only just got out, he's earned his money and probably needs most of it maybe he didn't want to lose what he had by financing buffy or maybe he recognised that willow, Tara and buffy need to grow up, get an income and take some responsibility
Zak jaggs yeah I should have said my comment more clearly. When I was talking about helping with plumbing I was talking about helping to get the plumber to fix it, he's in construction and could easily find a way to work some favors or get a guy from work to at least help. He simply just left it on Buffy's feet. Like she was dead. It's bad writing.
I feel like they were paying for utilities at least while Buffy was Dead.
Thanks again, folks! Oh, and I should get the library edition of Season 12 later today!
Two episodes tell what we have been waiting for.It was explained way after the show that spike went to jail for tax evasion so not a lot about finances
You know, the summer between S5 and S6 was particularly hard on us BTVS fans. From the end of May to when the new season started over on UPN, there were NO Buffy reruns...anywhere. Not a trace of Buffy to be found-unless you owned some of the old VHS tapes. So, when S6 finally started, I was really excited. And hey, Joss and ME didn't disappoint with a first rate season premiere, followed by a truly wonderful episode seeming to give us spuffies everything we ever wanted...
... and then this turd dropped and we realized who the ongoing villains of the season might possibly be-three underachieving assclowns.
And just like that, I braced for a very long, long year.
No, I didn't like this one at all.
Ugh I remember that. I was in middle school then and was devastated thinking The Gift was the very last episode.
@@lindseystein9676 You can blame the WB for that with their little "final announcement." Of course a lot of people at the time didn't get UPN-the smallest of the networks-and for them sadly, it was the last episode. At least until the dvds came out.
I like this episode (the character stuff is great) and I really like this season, but I get your point. The Trio are easily the worst part of the season.
@@antoniolamounier I really hate the demon too. It's lame and the make-up is horrible. Compared to the earlier seasons and demons like der Kinderstad it really looks fake. The character bits are great but not enough to save this for me.