Just an FYI..... I have run my Boss GT 100 from GT100 outputs OR headphones output to the THR10 AUX input (this bypasses the THR10's preamp and goes direct to power amp) and get fantastic results. This basically uses the THR10 as a flat response amplifier for the GT100 and sounds great. Stereo fields are maintained from the GT100. I have also done this with the Roland GR55, Fender Mustang Floor, and a Zoom MS50G. The THR 10 is an excellent amplifier for the purpose of amplifying MFX pedals in a small room/low volume use. By doing it this way, you can have 2 guitars playing thru the THR10, one thru the MFX pedal and one thru the amp itself with all it sounds and features so two people can jam at the same time.
Hi, given all the modelling on the THR is 'hand controlled' (no present foot pedal options) - am I right in assuming you could also connect up say a Boss ME80 into its Aux and it would be amplified and operate okay? Ideally I would then like to hook up a DigiTech Trio + for backing and to loop with. From what I have read, does that seem viable - as very new to this and as beginner/improver was initially only looking to acquire the DigiTech for my THR10 - BUT - then a Boss ME80 was offered my way ...
Its always the same with these kind of amps for example the Spark amp, its sooo powerful with its integration with the tone cloud, but it lacks an fx loop and a cab output same with the THR10. but i guess they dont want to give away too much features for these price ranges.
Great Video..Thanks again for sharing this info.I have the same amplifier. What's the filter setting you used? And is it ok to connect a multi-effects unit to THR?
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Well, I tested it finally, I brought for 70 euros shipped the THR10C and sell it (I'm regreting a bit right now, honestly) and after I got for 200 euros both Yamaha THR10 and the THR10X 'cause the guy didn't want to sell the THR10X alone, after I got also, for 20 euros: the Roland Micro Cube. This would be a long review, sorry. my pedals: ─ Modified Boss MT2 (ua-cam.com/video/VYPKV3plXe4/v-deo.html) ─ Stone Deaf Warp Drive ─ Beavis FKR mk1 ─ Ibanez NTS ─ A handmade mixer pedal (like the KMA Tyler) with 2 outputs but one output blend knob, a "tone knob" kinda sweep and some kinda "Precision Drive" simple noise gate, good for playing with 2 amps, why not? ─ TSL tube Big Muff & Green Ringer "Abracadaver" style ringoctaver ─ ICA Delay ─ EHX Black Finger ─ EHX Mel9 ─ The "hacked" Zoom G1xOn A bit of weird pedals, one I helped the guy of the project so I didn't pay, the MT2 my exgf give it me, the Zoom also was 20 euros, the FKR I got in Brazil for some like 40 45 euros nowadays, I paid more on the Ibanez NTS here (100 euros) and got the Warp Drive for a 70 euros work debt, and 80 on the EHX Black Finger (with 1 of those AMT solid state tubes on it) 'cause Why not? Through these years I started to collect these stuff for the right price. So, using the mostly the Clean Channel preset plug and play, what I can say about all of this? ─ The EHX Black Finger give some life to the digital realm, I don't know, sutble but you can hear, dynamics, "feeling", but, you can go weird if you want, the Crunch Channel like to combine stuff creating weird sounds, even with the Rack Comp you can have some nice n' strange fuzzes alone. ─ Applying the filters you can really push pedals through it in a very convincing way, after using the filters and other tricks (like the Phaser one that I use for every gainier stuff and even using sutble subtle the room reverb or to play with it after the preset without the PC), I barely touched again on the Roland Micro Cube ─ The MT2 plus the Ibanez NTS sounded on the clean channel massive, I mean, massive! Beastily heavy, with that "pec punch" feel, also this MT2 with the mixer or the tone knob of the guitar can get some Obituary or Chainsaw (as a boost) sounds that I prefer over the HM2s demos that I saw, tight but very dirty and nasty and retaining clarity, I don't know what sorcery that guy is doing with these pedals or what I'm doing with these filters ─ tube Big Muff with that Green Ringer (like the Abracadaver pedal switching pre and post gain) ? Awesome ─ Very nice play with the blend knob of the Ibanez NTS on clean or edge of breakup style sounds, sounds beautiful also on the Clean Channel of the THR10X ─ Comparing the Clean of the THR10 and the X, besides the Rat style pedal, the other ones it's just not possible to sound good ─ The Lead channel it's one of the best using the editor or with pedals or both ─ On some occasions if you use the "Phaser Trick" (leaving the Depth on 0) you have to tweak the low cut on the delay filters to avoid ugly glitches ─ After using the MT2 with the THR10, is a bit irrelevant now to have the THR10X as I can have tight agressive sounds (eb tuning realm), recto agressive sounds, if you want to go loose all is possible, and at the end sounds just better for ME than the Brown 1 and 2. This make me really want to sell it, but as I work on the mountains from 3 4 to 5 months per year, maybe I'll keep it with me. ─ The Crunch Channel also works using pedals, sometimes I prefer to use my MT2 here and there, sounds different, but awesome on both channels. I'm planning to move my stuff where I live now, now that I do my stuff again on regular basis after this pandemonic times. We can't compare the THR10 even using the John's tips with the big boys, I have in Brazil a 8040 Marshall Valvestate that I don't remember how it sounds after 4 years, and here I have a Crate Preamp (like the Crate GX130C, Flexwave something), with the Carvin T100 poweramp just waiting to be used. The only thing that I'm thinking it's maybe test some new speakers on the THR10X, I know a guy that changed the speakers with the Eminence Alpha 3 and said that those speakers are so much better than the stock ones, I'm not so sold into it... And just for fun, after using all of the 3 THRs, what's my favs amps? ─ FLAT ─ bASS ─ Clean MK2 (THR10) ─ Crunch MK2 (THR10) ─ Class A (THR10C) ─ Lead V2 (THR10) ─ mini (THR10C) ─ Brown 2 (THR10X) ─ Power 2 (THR10X)
hey again! looking to buy this amp and get a jhs AT (andy timmons) distortion pedal or a tech 21 OMG (richie kotzen distortion/overdrive), you think it would work well with this amp even with or without the delay filter mods? thank you very much!
Hi is it possible to use a pedal like a tube screamer clone to boost the Brit high for solos , I like to practice songs and be able to switch solo sound on. With my foot. Thanks
Hi. It depends on the amount of gain you are using. With lower gain settings on the THR you will get a perceivable boost, with higher gain settings, you’ll just get more gain.
TonyG ________ I put some up on guitar patches .com a while back. I have hundreds of them though, literally, because I use the THR for most of my sessions nowadays, along with the Android App.
Great stuff, John! Have you tried a treble boost or any clean(ish) boost directly into the THR10 set up with a mild crunch/breakup (i. e. not boosting an overdrive pedal, but boosting the amp itself). If so, how did it sound/react?
Brian Dress nope, not at all. the only thing that effects the filters is the rev/delay knob. However, if you leave the rev-del knob in a position between 12:00 and full and then select the patch, you can adjust the reverb levels without loosing the filters.
i tried using a wah pedal and it worked fine for like 5 days, then it just stopped randomly. Ive since tried 2 near wah pedals with my thr and none of them work. Anyone else have this sort of problem? Dont know if i just have 3 broken pedals or if the wah effect in my thr is broken
Hi John, I'm a novice and completely loving the sound difference with the filtering. I've recently bought a thr10 so not very familiar with the pc/app settings. Is it possible to show the pc screen setting so that I can mirror you, I'm a bit lost, sorry. Leo
Hi Leo, I'll make another video soon. I don't have any pro cameras at home, or editing stuff😀, bit I'll try to put together a more visually comprehensive video. Have you used the editing software yet?
I can't get my THR10 to sound good with pedals, it sounds harsh as anything. The Bass channel is about the best (I play 6 string electric guitar through it), but the rest aren't great. Can you please upload this patch or library? :-)
Thank you for sharing your knowledge man. I'm learning a lot from you sir. Keep them coming. Great playing by the way!
Just an FYI..... I have run my Boss GT 100 from GT100 outputs OR headphones output to the THR10 AUX input (this bypasses the THR10's preamp and goes direct to power amp) and get fantastic results. This basically uses the THR10 as a flat response amplifier for the GT100 and sounds great. Stereo fields are maintained from the GT100. I have also done this with the Roland GR55, Fender Mustang Floor, and a Zoom MS50G. The THR 10 is an excellent amplifier for the purpose of amplifying MFX pedals in a small room/low volume use. By doing it this way, you can have 2 guitars playing thru the THR10, one thru the MFX pedal and one thru the amp itself with all it sounds and features so two people can jam at the same time.
Clever
Mark Crosby Cool tip man. So I guess I could do the same thing with my THR10X right? The aux ins should be identical I assume? Thanks
I do the same for two guitars and it's bloody awesome :)
I've done this with a Pocket Pod when I've have a friend over to jam.
Hi, given all the modelling on the THR is 'hand controlled' (no present foot pedal options) - am I right in assuming you could also connect up say a Boss ME80 into its Aux and it would be amplified and operate okay? Ideally I would then like to hook up a DigiTech Trio + for backing and to loop with. From what I have read, does that seem viable - as very new to this and as beginner/improver was initially only looking to acquire the DigiTech for my THR10 - BUT - then a Boss ME80 was offered my way ...
Thanks for your contributions John. Killer playing too.
Thanks for this simple and straight forward vid man! Got a mini drop tune Mooer coming and was curious if I could use pedals with the thr
John!!!! Long time no see! Great vid man!
Planning to get the new THR 30 and was thinking if pedals will work just incase I want than the built in effects.
Thumbs Up, John,
Thanks
Its always the same with these kind of amps for example the Spark amp, its sooo powerful with its integration with the tone cloud, but it lacks an fx loop and a cab output same with the THR10. but i guess they dont want to give away too much features for these price ranges.
If you play back in track through it, the pedals work well without passing the back in track signal to them?
Great Video..Thanks again for sharing this info.I have the same amplifier. What's the filter setting you used? And is it ok to connect a multi-effects unit to THR?
Glad you're out there . Subscribed . Would be cool to learn more about my THRs by asking about certain things via email. I'm bad at this modern tech stuff
great channel man
Wry interesting! I have the TH30 II, and I would to love to ask you more questions....,for instance is there any way to use a mic through it?
Great vid, what was the distortion pedal please?
How did you balance that amp to get it in that position? I'd like to do that as well with mine.
Eloy Suopunki 😀 It’s on my wallet.
What's the settings please? I'm having some difficulties to put my pedals in front of it. Thanks
I’m using the filter trick (see earlier videos)🖖.
Well, I tested it finally, I brought for 70 euros shipped the THR10C and sell it (I'm regreting a bit right now, honestly) and after I got for 200 euros both Yamaha THR10 and the THR10X 'cause the guy didn't want to sell the THR10X alone, after I got also, for 20 euros: the Roland Micro Cube. This would be a long review, sorry.
my pedals:
─ Modified Boss MT2 (ua-cam.com/video/VYPKV3plXe4/v-deo.html)
─ Stone Deaf Warp Drive
─ Beavis FKR mk1
─ Ibanez NTS
─ A handmade mixer pedal (like the KMA Tyler) with 2 outputs but one output blend knob, a "tone knob" kinda sweep and some kinda "Precision Drive" simple noise gate, good for playing with 2 amps, why not?
─ TSL tube Big Muff & Green Ringer "Abracadaver" style ringoctaver
─ ICA Delay
─ EHX Black Finger
─ EHX Mel9
─ The "hacked" Zoom G1xOn
A bit of weird pedals, one I helped the guy of the project so I didn't pay, the MT2 my exgf give it me, the Zoom also was 20 euros, the FKR I got in Brazil for some like 40 45 euros nowadays, I paid more on the Ibanez NTS here (100 euros) and got the Warp Drive for a 70 euros work debt, and 80 on the EHX Black Finger (with 1 of those AMT solid state tubes on it) 'cause Why not? Through these years I started to collect these stuff for the right price.
So, using the mostly the Clean Channel preset plug and play, what I can say about all of this?
─ The EHX Black Finger give some life to the digital realm, I don't know, sutble but you can hear, dynamics, "feeling", but, you can go weird if you want, the Crunch Channel like to combine stuff creating weird sounds, even with the Rack Comp you can have some nice n' strange fuzzes alone.
─ Applying the filters you can really push pedals through it in a very convincing way, after using the filters and other tricks (like the Phaser one that I use for every gainier stuff and even using sutble subtle the room reverb or to play with it after the preset without the PC), I barely touched again on the Roland Micro Cube
─ The MT2 plus the Ibanez NTS sounded on the clean channel massive, I mean, massive! Beastily heavy, with that "pec punch" feel, also this MT2 with the mixer or the tone knob of the guitar can get some Obituary or Chainsaw (as a boost) sounds that I prefer over the HM2s demos that I saw, tight but very dirty and nasty and retaining clarity, I don't know what sorcery that guy is doing with these pedals or what I'm doing with these filters
─ tube Big Muff with that Green Ringer (like the Abracadaver pedal switching pre and post gain) ? Awesome
─ Very nice play with the blend knob of the Ibanez NTS on clean or edge of breakup style sounds, sounds beautiful also on the Clean Channel of the THR10X
─ Comparing the Clean of the THR10 and the X, besides the Rat style pedal, the other ones it's just not possible to sound good
─ The Lead channel it's one of the best using the editor or with pedals or both
─ On some occasions if you use the "Phaser Trick" (leaving the Depth on 0) you have to tweak the low cut on the delay filters to avoid ugly glitches
─ After using the MT2 with the THR10, is a bit irrelevant now to have the THR10X as I can have tight agressive sounds (eb tuning realm), recto agressive sounds, if you want to go loose all is possible, and at the end sounds just better for ME than the Brown 1 and 2. This make me really want to sell it, but as I work on the mountains from 3 4 to 5 months per year, maybe I'll keep it with me.
─ The Crunch Channel also works using pedals, sometimes I prefer to use my MT2 here and there, sounds different, but awesome on both channels.
I'm planning to move my stuff where I live now, now that I do my stuff again on regular basis after this pandemonic times. We can't compare the THR10 even using the John's tips with the big boys, I have in Brazil a 8040 Marshall Valvestate that I don't remember how it sounds after 4 years, and here I have a Crate Preamp (like the Crate GX130C, Flexwave something), with the Carvin T100 poweramp just waiting to be used. The only thing that I'm thinking it's maybe test some new speakers on the THR10X, I know a guy that changed the speakers with the Eminence Alpha 3 and said that those speakers are so much better than the stock ones, I'm not so sold into it...
And just for fun, after using all of the 3 THRs, what's my favs amps?
─ FLAT
─ bASS
─ Clean MK2 (THR10)
─ Crunch MK2 (THR10)
─ Class A (THR10C)
─ Lead V2 (THR10)
─ mini (THR10C)
─ Brown 2 (THR10X)
─ Power 2 (THR10X)
hey again! looking to buy this amp and get a jhs AT (andy timmons) distortion pedal or a tech 21 OMG (richie kotzen distortion/overdrive), you think it would work well with this amp even with or without the delay filter mods? thank you very much!
Epic
Amazing feeling.
What do you think is the best cab for the clean channel?
Hi is it possible to use a pedal like a tube screamer clone to boost the Brit high for solos , I like to practice songs and be able to switch solo sound on. With my foot. Thanks
Hi. It depends on the amount of gain you are using. With lower gain settings on the THR you will get a perceivable boost, with higher gain settings, you’ll just get more gain.
Hi John. Great video! Do you have any of your patches available to download?
TonyG ________ I put some up on guitar patches .com a while back. I have hundreds of them though, literally, because I use the THR for most of my sessions nowadays, along with the Android App.
android app?
Bill Rand The one in the video here is the PC version but thee is an Android version as well. He made a video of that earlier
ah ok cheers will check it out
Great stuff, John! Have you tried a treble boost or any clean(ish) boost directly into the THR10 set up with a mild crunch/breakup (i. e. not boosting an overdrive pedal, but boosting the amp itself). If so, how did it sound/react?
PavelP thanks. With the filters, fine. Especially with lower crunch settings.
Can you store the pedal tones into the user memory then detach the pedals and retain that same tone?
No, only the clean amp tone is stored🖖
@@PewPewDevices ok thanks for the reply.
If you save the filter in presets and then adjust gain and eq via the knobs on the unit does it erase the filter?
Brian Dress nope, not at all. the only thing that effects the filters is the rev/delay knob. However, if you leave the rev-del knob in a position between 12:00 and full and then select the patch, you can adjust the reverb levels without loosing the filters.
JohnDaleLive awesome! I have to resurrect my nexus 7 for thr librarian now
Like 210👏
i tried using a wah pedal and it worked fine for like 5 days, then it just stopped randomly. Ive since tried 2 near wah pedals with my thr and none of them work. Anyone else have this sort of problem? Dont know if i just have 3 broken pedals or if the wah effect in my thr is broken
So how is it going with your wah pedals and THR? Have you solved the problem?
@@Имбирнаяпеченька-ю6ь just had rly bad luck with crappy pedals. Got a new 535q and have been using it last 2 months and it works great👍👍
@@thechuube8442 cool, glad you found a good pedal
Hi John,
I'm a novice and completely loving the sound difference with the filtering. I've recently bought a thr10 so not very familiar with the pc/app settings. Is it possible to show the pc screen setting so that I can mirror you, I'm a bit lost, sorry.
Leo
Hi Leo, I'll make another video soon. I don't have any pro cameras at home, or editing stuff😀, bit I'll try to put together a more visually comprehensive video. Have you used the editing software yet?
what filter? is it part of the thr10 software?
Hi Keith! yes, the delay filter. Whack the level up to full, delay time on zero and just pllay around with the hi-cut and low-cut filters.
V1 or v2 firmware on the thr?
Ray Reilly v2, but it doesn’t make any difference.
JohnDaleOfficial thanks. For some reason a lot of people think the v2 firmware sounds worse than the v1.
Hiya, what is that cool looking treble booster at the start of your chain😀?
Richard McEntee it's a custom JTamps treble booster, handmade in Slovakia. Brian May voiced.
JohnDaleLive Ha! Thought it was too good to be true, thanks for the quick reply! 😀
I can't get my THR10 to sound good with pedals, it sounds harsh as anything. The Bass channel is about the best (I play 6 string electric guitar through it), but the rest aren't great. Can you please upload this patch or library? :-)
sus4b9 sorry, missed your comment😀. Just use the delay filters to tame the top end and presence (see my earlier video). I’m using it in this vid.
@@PewPewDevices what earlier video please? Thanks.
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