Very nice, Peggy! I'm glad that piece didn't break when it flew off the lathe, I am always worried about overtightening the chuck and cracking the softer woods. It's kinda nerve wracking, but it's so easy to miss that sweet spot where the chuck is secure without damaging the soft wood. Cheers!
Mortise is usually stronger but cracks in the material can sometimes preclude that. Beautiful bowl turned with precision and skill then you added drama. Everything I needed to see on a rainy day. Thanks for sharing.
I have turned a few cedar bowls, none that big yet, but I have come to the conclusion that a tendon seems to work better than a mortise with cedar. And that made a beautiful bowl, great job.
First time viewer. Beautiful project, and it's nice to see someone own up to their problems or mistakes. You recovered nicely, and I'm glad there wasn't any significant damage (either to the bowl or to yourself).
Hi Peggy glad you did not get hurt with your mishap. Another very pretty bowl like the seafoam. I use a morise most of the time. Cedar dose crack, but I found that when I use mineral to keep it a little moist seems to help, thanks for sharing.
I prefer the MORTISE as i have had trouble with the tenon not being deep enough.. I love the red cedar with the green epoxy, great combination. I agree with you about cedar with the understanding that cedar can be random on the occurrence of bad areas that cause problems. You really did a nice job on your bowl!!
very enjoyable video and glad you weren't hurt by the bowl coming off the lathe. I was surprised you did the epoxy while the bowl was on the lathe! That stuff has a mind of its own and would head into any gaps into the gears on the lathe. However, a very nice end result and the green looks wonderful with the wood colours
Got my carter and sons bowl gouge last week I got the large handle very nice tool happy with it and I like the mortise seems to hold better with the type of Chuck I use.
turned out beautifully. to your question.. i rather mortise most of the time (trees). there are big advantages with using mortise like put it back on the 4 jaws in case of miscalculating\ changes we future might wish to do and another one is the saving time (and risk) of taking out the tenon. if i may, one big advice that i heard recently and truly saved for me a lot of time and got better result is: (i dont remember the precise way it was said but..) you should rather one more pass in order to get better result and dealing with turning marks on the wood. that saves a lot of time.. and send paper. looking forward for some more videos. enjoy safe turnings.
Great job Peggy! I use both mortise and tennon's, if I have resin that goes down to the bottom on a project I use a tennon so that instead of exerting pressure outwards as a mortise does which can cause the resin and wood to separate and coming apart, the tennon is more of a hold it together anchor in my opinion. On pieces that are solid wood on the bottom I do prefer a mortise. I had 1 bad experience where using a mortise on a resin and ash bowl, as I was getting the inside shaped and with roughly 1.5" of thickness in the bottom I started hearing it pop like rice crispies and then it flew off. Didn't ruin the project, had to CA glue and add some resin back where it had started to separate, I put it in the cole jaws, made a tenon, and finished with no hiccups. Learned my lesson 😉
I use a lot of cedar and what a gorgeous bowl with the green color and the black lines!!!!!!! I can't help with tenon/mortise question because I just recently bought a quality chuck that has a dovetail on the outside of the jaws to grip for a mortise so I'm following this also for insight. Ed, I'm jealous of you!!!!!!!!!!! If you get tired of looking at your prize you can send it to me, I will be GLAD to take it!!!!!
Yup…when you sped it up, it reminded me of the last Cedar bowl I attempted. Mine came off when hollowing too. I think Cedar is a bit weak and either requires a deeper Mortise or a Bowl Steady to help keep it on the chuck.
That is a beautiful bowl. As a very new wood turner I have only used tenons as all of my projects have been too small for a mortise. I just bought a new set of jaws for my one way chuck so I can now do a dovetail mortise. I like the idea of a foot on the bottom of a bowl. At least on some bowls that just seems like a good fit for the character of the bowl. That is my opinion anyways.
I was noticing once you turned the bowl it appeared to be slightly off of center. I watched again and there is noticeable wobble. When you put in the chuck again it was running perfectly smooth. Really gorgeous bowl.
Ahh my love hate relationship with cedar... loved the black & white slo mo. I try and use a mortise. I like being able to rechuck if I need to. Plus I just like the look. Another beautiful turn. Thanks for sharing.
Mortise 99% of the time. Glad you weren't hurt. Next time press you're bowl into the headstock with the tail stock and itll help make sure its secure. Beautiful bowl, thanks for sharing.
Cedar always has great color in it and smells awesome when turning. I use a mortise when turning bowls because I'm too lazy and not confident enough to turn off the tennon at the end of turning.
Hi Peggy, I have had mishaps with both tenons and mortises. Lucky you were out of the line of fire when it came loose. But cedar is a weak wood and mountings will fail. (The dust is pretty darn toxic too.) That said, I love cedar. The late Dale Nish developed a rule for bowl turning speed. Diameter in inches times RPM should not exceed 6,000. There is more to it then that, but that is a conservative figure, and I believe, safe. With bowls I get nice results with 600 to 850 RPM. Beautiful outcome.
Hi 👋 lovely job I do like the colours. Myself I'm just getting back in to turning, and I have been making my own tools and experimenting with tool shape, i.e. Hook and a ring sharpened on the inside. Phil from the Moulin in France, still in lockdown because of the virus, stay safe. 👍😘
Lovely mix of colours! I have sometimes used crushed and powdered lapis lazuli in layers with CA to fill fissures and holes - nice depth of deep blue colour and it takes a good finish but all the gold flecks in the lapis disappear when it's crushed!
Definitely mortise whenever I can. The trick for me is getting the mortise deep enough to get a good grip without being overly deep and leaving a thick bottom in my mostly fairly small bowls (so far) of almost always dry wood. Beautiful bowl! I enjoy watching you turn.
Great bowl with beautiful combination of colours. I use both tenon and recess - had fails with both. Had a tenon shear off heavy bowl while hollowing. That needed a coffee break! I prefer recess with dovetail rim which works with my jaws. Brian
Nice project. I've made plenty of pens with red cedar. Like you said, smells great at first but after a while it gets old fast. The epoxy resin color did not hurt the results!
Un trabajo hermoso, esa madera merecía a alguien capaz de hacer un bowl que la aprovechase reduciendo el uso de resina a lo estrictamente necesario y contrastándola con el color para valorizar la veta. Estupendo que cerraras las pequeñas fracturas con esas discretas líneas negras de adhesivo, que casi desaparecieron en el producto final. El comprador se merece esos detalles. Una lástima que no tengas una cortadora hemisférica para extraer una pieza de madera entera del interior, valía la pena para sacar un bowl más pequeño y ensayar otras terminaciones. Una alegría ver a torneras con sentido práctico, buen gusto y prolijidad que otros colegas no tienen.
Very nice job on the bulb that’s a pretty color as a natural red blood type of wood very nice very very nice and Apoxsee you use was really pretty once again you’re great God bless
Had as standing dead cedar in my yard that I harvested and tried a bowl with. Mine came flying off too. Not pretty. Good to see I'm not the only one. :) Thanks for motivating me to pick that piece back up and finish it. New tools arriving on the 8th. Also, as a functioning Scientist, I can tell you that you'd be surprised how much of it is done "by feel". Even when we are measuring our feel.
Whether I use a Mortise or Tenon depends on what I"m turning, how much material is available in the turning, and the shape. Usually I'll use a Mortise though. Lately, with the platters I've been doing I use a Mortise with a wide foot, then when reverse mounted, I turn away the foot so it's like a bead, and hides how it was mounted. Peggy, I noticed that piece was out of round before you mounted it in the chuck, so it was most likely out of balance before you started hollowing. When I have pieces like that, I use the tailstock, and hollow from about 1/3 to the outside working towards the centre, and about an inch deep at a time and establishing the thickness of the bowl, and keep working down that way until your are about 1/3 from the bottom. This not only helps keep the piece on the Lathe, it also helps with the balance as the weight is more centred, you can then start removing the centre part, you still have to be careful though as with any turning. I've not had a piece come off for a long time, or I've at least checked before one has, and also checked my sharpness of the tool in use as I've found as the tool gets dull one tends to push a little more which can upset the balance as well. Overall, I think you're doing a fantastic job, and I always look forward to your next projects.
I just noticed at around 11:40, when your using the gouge down the wall of the bowl, you have the flute open (straight up), that's a very easy way to get a catch on the wing of the gouge. If you turn your tool rest so it's inside the bowl, then use the gouge from an almost closed position (90 degrees with the flute towards the head stock), and slowly open the flute as you work towards the bottom, you'll have a much safer cut and reduce the chances of getting a catch, plus your tool won't be over hanging the tool rest as much, and it will much easier to control the tool, and be easier on your body.
Hi from across the pond. It’s always great to see different woods being turned, especially by someone who knows what they’re doing. You did a very nice job there. Mortise or tenon? I personally prefer a mortise as many others have said, just seems to give a better cosmetic result. However, I don’t think the grip is as secure with the mortise as with a tenon because you just don’t wind up the chuck jaws as forcefully as you would do on a sacrificial tenon. With such a big heavy lump of wood, I would always taper the mortise and always use the tail stock for support until most of the inner bulk has been hogged out. I don’t think the speed would have been too high for a supported bowl. I still enjoyed watching your work and have subscribed, thank you for sharing.
The argument I always hear about recess or tenon, is that one works better than the other. My opinion is that they both work equally well IF they are properly made. I use a recess. I am curious about why it cane off. Looks like there is a small chip and scar on the bottom after it came off. Also noticed that the bowl was running a lot truer after you remounted it. You may be correct about it not being all the way seated on your chuck. Cedar is a bit soft and I expected to see a major wood failure on the recess. That can happen.... Been there, done that, more than once....
I love this bowl. I basically only have cedar to work with so I do a lot of cedar. I do prefer a mortise, had to many tenons break off. I have not really used resin, to poor for that. But that seafoam is gorgeous in that.
Peggy, I choose a mortise or tenon based on the integrity of the wood I am chucking. I enjoy using a mortise so rechucking is easy at any time, but if the wood is punky or has cracks I find that the compression of the wood with a tenon is a safer choice. A tenon is great if at a later date the turning needs to be refinished or polished.
Very pretty piece ow wood. Good job. One bit of advise, don’t put acks in the mortice... makes it easy for the piece to slip out of the chuck. Great stuff, though. I use it on most of my work as well.
I've watched your using the ack's pastes and I decided to order some to try. I did the triple kit order as I have about 40 small to medium bowls to make for food use. So that should give the product a good testing. LOL. Great video and bowl as I have come to expect from you. Thanks.
I am not a turner just do lots of other things with my hands. From a customer's perspective I like the look of a mortise. However from what I have watched if there is any chance of cracking I would use a tenon. I really liked the one you used because it is finished and you don't have to turn the bowl around twice.
A really nice piece beautiful colour pattern and grain BLOODY GOOD RECOVERY pit about all the shakes in the blank to start with but you did a very nice job just a bit over enthusiastic with the speed it it will still look absolutely beautiful sitting in the right place keep up the good safe health practises peace out
I do not do wood carving or turning, but from what i have seen, a tenon can 'break loose' while the bowl is being turned. I saw that with a bowl where the tenon had a bit of bark in it, and broke completely off during turning. A mortise seems more stable to me, though I have seen a couple of projects fly off during turning with a mortise as well. Like in this video for instance. Just an observation.
I'm not a woodturner, but it seems to me that with a mortise, you run the risk of splitting the wood as you tighten the chuck - especially on brittle woods. I realize that a tenon has to be cut off afterward, but it just appears to be a more solid way of mounting the piece. Beautiful cedar bowl. Thanks for the video.
I haven't been turning long, a little over a year thus far, but I've started to use more and more recesses/mortise as opposed to tenons, especially for bowls. Personally, I think the recess looks better on the bottom as a foot as opposed to just a plain bottom, plus I have the hardest time parting off a tenon straight, with a nice clean, flat bottom. To be truthful, I have an issue with getting the bottom flat even with a recess, but to me and my wife, the look of the mortise is just better for us.
looks like me when im turning, hate to turn away all that pretty wood but got to get the shape. its a shame it seems eastern cedar cracks a lot for me too but some of it is beautiful. my grandpa had some cedars with a lot of heart wood and it was purple/red
Very nice, Peggy! I'm glad that piece didn't break when it flew off the lathe, I am always worried about overtightening the chuck and cracking the softer woods. It's kinda nerve wracking, but it's so easy to miss that sweet spot where the chuck is secure without damaging the soft wood. Cheers!
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks for leaving in the drop off the chuck, makes the rest of us feel normal.
Beautiful work.
Right?! It hasn’t happened to me in a long time, just goes to show you that you always gotta be on your toes! 😎
I love the look of cedar, the reds and pinks. Your bowl is beautiful. Learn something every time I watch your videos.
Awesome! Thank you!
I love the fact you use the resin as an accent , rather than a full blown feature. Some times I think resin gets used too liberally.
Agreed! Thanks.
Bravo! Good save on the disconnect, happens to me to frequent to admit. Beautiful bowl
Not a wood Turner worth the name hasn't had this experience You weren't hurt and finished a great bowl..well done peggy
Ha! Very true!!! Thanks much!
You have a great talent and real eye for beauty. This is reflected in all your pieces. Loving watching your videos.
Thank you so much!
Peggy, I agree there are times when a mortise is appropriate and others when a tenon is. Gorgeous colors
Thanks!!! ;-)
Beautiful bowl, nice colors. You scared the CRAP out of me. I hope you didn't get hurt. Be safe and stay healthy
Earl
Connecticut
All good.... didn't even come near me...! Thankfully!
Congratulations Ed. And this new bowl comprised of cedar and epoxy is beautiful Penny. Great color combo
Thanks a bunch!
I absolutely love the look of cedar. One of these I’m going to do a bowl. Thank you.
Awesome! Thank you!
Mortise is usually stronger but cracks in the material can sometimes preclude that. Beautiful bowl turned with precision and skill then you added drama. Everything I needed to see on a rainy day. Thanks for sharing.
Ha! Thanks
I have turned a few cedar bowls, none that big yet, but I have come to the conclusion that a tendon seems to work better than a mortise with cedar. And that made a beautiful bowl, great job.
Thank you
Peggy, i have enjoyed this video very much, thank you. The result is also very beautiful and the colors go well together. Amazing work my friend. 🌷
Thank you so much!
I love cedar. This bowl is awesome Peggy. Love the touch of color too. You did good my friend. ✌👍💙
Thanks so much 😊
I really love the pinky red colour of cedar. It’s such a beautiful wood. Nice looking finished piece too.
😎 thanks!
Wow. That bowl looks awesome. The green resin fits perfectly to the red color of the wood. Great job Peggy. 😊👍
Thanks so much! 😊
Stunning wood and a fantastic piece! Glad you weren't hurt when it jumped off. Well done
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Congratulations Ed, and that turning is beautiful. Cedar and green epoxy were meant to be.✌️
Thanks 👍
Wonderful choice of color to complement the cedar. Great job.
Thank you! Cheers!
First time viewer. Beautiful project, and it's nice to see someone own up to their problems or mistakes. You recovered nicely, and I'm glad there wasn't any significant damage (either to the bowl or to yourself).
Welcome aboard! Thanks very much!
Beautiful bowl, Peggy. Everything you did worked well to bring it all together. Stay safe and well. Bill
Thank you! You too!
Really creative with the resin colour, finished bowl looks amazing, glad you were not hurt. Thank you for sharing
Thanks so much 😊
Great job recovering from the toss off the lathe! Love the color and the highlight with the Total Boat w/green! Love it!
Thank you very much!
I like the accent to the cedar bowl. It is like you said, not too much. Beautiful turning!!
Thanks so much! 😊
Hi Peggy glad you did not get hurt with your mishap. Another very pretty bowl like the seafoam. I use a morise most of the time. Cedar dose crack, but I found that when I use mineral to keep it a little moist seems to help, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the tip!
I prefer the MORTISE as i have had trouble with the tenon not being deep enough.. I love the red cedar with the green epoxy, great combination. I agree with you about cedar with the understanding that cedar can be random on the occurrence of bad areas that cause problems. You really did a nice job on your bowl!!
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My birthday is Tuesday so after celebrating, I am going to kick back and watch your videos.
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very enjoyable video and glad you weren't hurt by the bowl coming off the lathe. I was surprised you did the epoxy while the bowl was on the lathe! That stuff has a mind of its own and would head into any gaps into the gears on the lathe.
However, a very nice end result and the green looks wonderful with the wood colours
Thanks 👍
Love the bowl! That sea green is a cool combination!
Thank you! Cheers!
Got my carter and sons bowl gouge last week I got the large handle very nice tool happy with it and I like the mortise seems to hold better with the type of Chuck I use.
Great to hear!
I prefer a mortis. It just looks cleaner to me, with or without a foot.
Very nice bowl, love the cedar and the epoxy.
Thanks very much 😎
Pretty Bowl. Colored resin is spot on
Thanks!
The bowl turned really nice, even with the little mishap. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you! Cheers!
Peggy, That Is Absolutely Beautiful! I Love It! Congratulations Ed... You Lucky Dog👍
Thank you! Cheers!
turned out beautifully. to your question.. i rather mortise most of the time (trees). there are big advantages with using mortise like put it back on the 4 jaws in case of miscalculating\ changes we future might wish to do and another one is the saving time (and risk) of taking out the tenon. if i may, one big advice that i heard recently and truly saved for me a lot of time and got better result is: (i dont remember the precise way it was said but..) you should rather one more pass in order to get better result and dealing with turning marks on the wood. that saves a lot of time.. and send paper. looking forward for some more videos. enjoy safe turnings.
Thanks, Eran!
Great job Peggy! I use both mortise and tennon's, if I have resin that goes down to the bottom on a project I use a tennon so that instead of exerting pressure outwards as a mortise does which can cause the resin and wood to separate and coming apart, the tennon is more of a hold it together anchor in my opinion. On pieces that are solid wood on the bottom I do prefer a mortise.
I had 1 bad experience where using a mortise on a resin and ash bowl, as I was getting the inside shaped and with roughly 1.5" of thickness in the bottom I started hearing it pop like rice crispies and then it flew off. Didn't ruin the project, had to CA glue and add some resin back where it had started to separate, I put it in the cole jaws, made a tenon, and finished with no hiccups. Learned my lesson 😉
Thank you! Yes, I've heard the rice crispies pop before too!
I use a lot of cedar and what a gorgeous bowl with the green color and the black lines!!!!!!! I can't help with tenon/mortise question because I just recently bought a quality chuck that has a dovetail on the outside of the jaws to grip for a mortise so I'm following this also for insight.
Ed, I'm jealous of you!!!!!!!!!!! If you get tired of looking at your prize you can send it to me, I will be GLAD to take it!!!!!
Ha! Thanks!
Yup…when you sped it up, it reminded me of the last Cedar bowl I attempted. Mine came off when hollowing too. I think Cedar is a bit weak and either requires a deeper Mortise or a Bowl Steady to help keep it on the chuck.
I think so too!
Beautiful!!!! Peggy this is absolutely gorgeous and as you say the epoxy is beautiful and such a contrast from the cedar grain but looks awesome 👍👍👍
Thank you so much!
I love turning cedar. That teal color is a really nice accent to the natural red.
I think so too!
Love the look of cedar.....Great looking bowl...the sea foam dose set it off
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That is a beautiful bowl. As a very new wood turner I have only used tenons as all of my projects have been too small for a mortise. I just bought a new set of jaws for my one way chuck so I can now do a dovetail mortise. I like the idea of a foot on the bottom of a bowl. At least on some bowls that just seems like a good fit for the character of the bowl. That is my opinion anyways.
Thanks, John! Happy turning!
The seafoam color looks nice on the cedar. Good choice.
Thank you! Cheers!
Love the bowl. I have used cut up milk cartons glued on with hot melt glue to form a dam for resins
Great idea!
Very nice! Glad you weren’t harmed.
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I was noticing once you turned the bowl it appeared to be slightly off of center. I watched again and there is noticeable wobble. When you put in the chuck again it was running perfectly smooth. Really gorgeous bowl.
Thanks, Mark!
Ahh my love hate relationship with cedar... loved the black & white slo mo. I try and use a mortise. I like being able to rechuck if I need to. Plus I just like the look. Another beautiful turn. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Wayne!😎
Mortise 99% of the time. Glad you weren't hurt. Next time press you're bowl into the headstock with the tail stock and itll help make sure its secure. Beautiful bowl, thanks for sharing.
Thanks, David!
Cedar always has great color in it and smells awesome when turning. I use a mortise when turning bowls because I'm too lazy and not confident enough to turn off the tennon at the end of turning.
Thanks!!! Yes, I know what you mean about having to reverse it at the end.
Hi Peggy, I have had mishaps with both tenons and mortises. Lucky you were out of the line of fire when it came loose. But cedar is a weak wood and mountings will fail. (The dust is pretty darn toxic too.) That said, I love cedar.
The late Dale Nish developed a rule for bowl turning speed. Diameter in inches times RPM should not exceed 6,000. There is more to it then that, but that is a conservative figure, and I believe, safe. With bowls I get nice results with 600 to 850 RPM.
Beautiful outcome.
Thanks much!
Lovely bowl...the cedar is gorgeous and I love the resin! I prefer a mortise because I really like it as a design feature.
Thank you very much!
Hi 👋 lovely job I do like the colours. Myself I'm just getting back in to turning, and I have been making my own tools and experimenting with tool shape, i.e. Hook and a ring sharpened on the inside.
Phil from the Moulin in France, still in lockdown because of the virus, stay safe. 👍😘
Have fun! Thanks!
Lovely mix of colours! I have sometimes used crushed and powdered lapis lazuli in layers with CA to fill fissures and holes - nice depth of deep blue colour and it takes a good finish but all the gold flecks in the lapis disappear when it's crushed!
Nice!
Definitely mortise whenever I can. The trick for me is getting the mortise deep enough to get a good grip without being overly deep and leaving a thick bottom in my mostly fairly small bowls (so far) of almost always dry wood. Beautiful bowl! I enjoy watching you turn.
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Great bowl with beautiful combination of colours. I use both tenon and recess - had fails with both. Had a tenon shear off heavy bowl while hollowing. That needed a coffee break! I prefer recess with dovetail rim which works with my jaws. Brian
Thanks for sharing!
Nice project. I've made plenty of pens with red cedar. Like you said, smells great at first but after a while it gets old fast. The epoxy resin color did not hurt the results!
Thank you!
Un trabajo hermoso, esa madera merecía a alguien capaz de hacer un bowl que la aprovechase reduciendo el uso de resina a lo estrictamente necesario y contrastándola con el color para valorizar la veta. Estupendo que cerraras las pequeñas fracturas con esas discretas líneas negras de adhesivo, que casi desaparecieron en el producto final. El comprador se merece esos detalles. Una lástima que no tengas una cortadora hemisférica para extraer una pieza de madera entera del interior, valía la pena para sacar un bowl más pequeño y ensayar otras terminaciones. Una alegría ver a torneras con sentido práctico, buen gusto y prolijidad que otros colegas no tienen.
Thanks for watching!
Hi that’s great looking bowl 🍲 thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
you are a very brave man
Woman, though!
Very nice job on the bulb that’s a pretty color as a natural red blood type of wood very nice very very nice and Apoxsee you use was really pretty once again you’re great God bless
Thank you very much!
Wow that's an amazing piece of wood. Gorgeous bowl 😍
Thank you very much!
Glad you're ok PF. Tennons just about all the time for me as long as the wood's strong and stable enough.
:-) thanks.
Had as standing dead cedar in my yard that I harvested and tried a bowl with. Mine came flying off too. Not pretty. Good to see I'm not the only one. :) Thanks for motivating me to pick that piece back up and finish it. New tools arriving on the 8th.
Also, as a functioning Scientist, I can tell you that you'd be surprised how much of it is done "by feel". Even when we are measuring our feel.
:-) thanks Tim!
Love the cedar wood I just picked up a lot of cedar logs love you Channel
Thanks, Fred!
Beautiful! The colour choice really suits the cedar. Such a shame we struggle to get red cedar over here! Stay safe
Thank you!
Wow I thought it was all over when the bowl came off good recuvery brilliant bowl be safe x
ha! Thanks!
It looks like the slots for the seafoam green were put in specifically. The color goes great with the cedar.
I think so too!
Flying off the chuck has happened to me many times, it's so agrovating
Sure is!
Whether I use a Mortise or Tenon depends on what I"m turning, how much material is available in the turning, and the shape. Usually I'll use a Mortise though. Lately, with the platters I've been doing I use a Mortise with a wide foot, then when reverse mounted, I turn away the foot so it's like a bead, and hides how it was mounted.
Peggy, I noticed that piece was out of round before you mounted it in the chuck, so it was most likely out of balance before you started hollowing. When I have pieces like that, I use the tailstock, and hollow from about 1/3 to the outside working towards the centre, and about an inch deep at a time and establishing the thickness of the bowl, and keep working down that way until your are about 1/3 from the bottom. This not only helps keep the piece on the Lathe, it also helps with the balance as the weight is more centred, you can then start removing the centre part, you still have to be careful though as with any turning. I've not had a piece come off for a long time, or I've at least checked before one has, and also checked my sharpness of the tool in use as I've found as the tool gets dull one tends to push a little more which can upset the balance as well. Overall, I think you're doing a fantastic job, and I always look forward to your next projects.
I just noticed at around 11:40, when your using the gouge down the wall of the bowl, you have the flute open (straight up), that's a very easy way to get a catch on the wing of the gouge. If you turn your tool rest so it's inside the bowl, then use the gouge from an almost closed position (90 degrees with the flute towards the head stock), and slowly open the flute as you work towards the bottom, you'll have a much safer cut and reduce the chances of getting a catch, plus your tool won't be over hanging the tool rest as much, and it will much easier to control the tool, and be easier on your body.
Yeah, the out of round didn't help matters! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks.
Hi from across the pond. It’s always great to see different woods being turned, especially by someone who knows what they’re doing. You did a very nice job there. Mortise or tenon? I personally prefer a mortise as many others have said, just seems to give a better cosmetic result. However, I don’t think the grip is as secure with the mortise as with a tenon because you just don’t wind up the chuck jaws as forcefully as you would do on a sacrificial tenon. With such a big heavy lump of wood, I would always taper the mortise and always use the tail stock for support until most of the inner bulk has been hogged out. I don’t think the speed would have been too high for a supported bowl. I still enjoyed watching your work and have subscribed, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!!
Afffff. Ki coisa linda.Estupenda a cor desta madeira!!! Só Deus pra fazer isso...e a Kim para dar a forma perfeita. Very Nice.....
Muito obrigado!
The argument I always hear about recess or tenon, is that one works better than the other. My opinion is that they both work equally well IF they are properly made. I use a recess. I am curious about why it cane off. Looks like there is a small chip and scar on the bottom after it came off. Also noticed that the bowl was running a lot truer after you remounted it. You may be correct about it not being all the way seated on your chuck. Cedar is a bit soft and I expected to see a major wood failure on the recess. That can happen.... Been there, done that, more than once....
Yeah, that's my best guess, it wasn't seated properly in the recess. Live n learn....
Absolutely gorgeous bowl Peggy you done a amazing job, take care my friend god bless and stay safe peace out ✌️✌️✌️✌️
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Congrats Ed.
I like that coloring a lot.
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I use either, all the feeling! I've had failures with both, me being too aggressive! Peace, be safe! Beach, NC.
You, love the bowl!
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I love this bowl. I basically only have cedar to work with so I do a lot of cedar. I do prefer a mortise, had to many tenons break off. I have not really used resin, to poor for that. But that seafoam is gorgeous in that.
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Tenon for end grain work. Mortise cross grain work. Tendons often sheer off in cross grain applications
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Nice job! Live the color!
Glad you like it!
On red cedar I about always use a tendon...to help hold it together ,will explode fairly easy !! 👍👍😷
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Peggy, I choose a mortise or tenon based on the integrity of the wood I am chucking. I enjoy using a mortise so rechucking is easy at any time, but if the wood is punky or has cracks I find that the compression of the wood with a tenon is a safer choice. A tenon is great if at a later date the turning needs to be refinished or polished.
Sorry, I meant that a mortise is great to refinish or polish at a later date
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You do beautiful work . Thank you for sharing
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I just love the color of cedar.
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Very pretty piece ow wood. Good job. One bit of advise, don’t put acks in the mortice... makes it easy for the piece to slip out of the chuck. Great stuff, though. I use it on most of my work as well.
Thanks for the tip!
I've watched your using the ack's pastes and I decided to order some to try. I did the triple kit order as I have about 40 small to medium bowls to make for food use. So that should give the product a good testing. LOL.
Great video and bowl as I have come to expect from you.
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Wonderful!
I am not a turner just do lots of other things with my hands. From a customer's perspective I like the look of a mortise. However from what I have watched if there is any chance of cracking I would use a tenon. I really liked the one you used because it is finished and you don't have to turn the bowl around twice.
For cedar because it is prone to splitting I think the tenon was the best choice.
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Exactly!
A really nice piece beautiful colour pattern and grain BLOODY GOOD RECOVERY pit about all the shakes in the blank to start with but you did a very nice job just a bit over enthusiastic with the speed it it will still look absolutely beautiful sitting in the right place keep up the good safe health practises peace out
Thanks, David! Peace out!
I do not do wood carving or turning, but from what i have seen, a tenon can 'break loose' while the bowl is being turned. I saw that with a bowl where the tenon had a bit of bark in it, and broke completely off during turning. A mortise seems more stable to me, though I have seen a couple of projects fly off during turning with a mortise as well. Like in this video for instance. Just an observation.
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Beautifully done again love it
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I am new but i seem to lean towards a mortise but i do like how you can really crank how a chuck on a tenon
True.
Definitely a mortise user although I have used a tenon sometimes. I turn mostly dry very hard woods like Mulga, Red gum and Ironwood.
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Beautiful piece. I know dear how the cedar is. Thanks
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“You picked a fine time to leave me Loose-Wheel” 🎶 😂
😂 ha, love it!
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I'm not a woodturner, but it seems to me that with a mortise, you run the risk of splitting the wood as you tighten the chuck - especially on brittle woods. I realize that a tenon has to be cut off afterward, but it just appears to be a more solid way of mounting the piece. Beautiful cedar bowl. Thanks for the video.
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I think that it is up to the turner which they use. Depends on the project & the wood itself.
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The mishap is at 10:50. Nicely done cedar bowl!
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That is so gorgeous!
Thank you!!!
I haven't been turning long, a little over a year thus far, but I've started to use more and more recesses/mortise as opposed to tenons, especially for bowls. Personally, I think the recess looks better on the bottom as a foot as opposed to just a plain bottom, plus I have the hardest time parting off a tenon straight, with a nice clean, flat bottom. To be truthful, I have an issue with getting the bottom flat even with a recess, but to me and my wife, the look of the mortise is just better for us.
Yeah, makes sense! Thanks for watching!!
looks like me when im turning, hate to turn away all that pretty wood but got to get the shape. its a shame it seems eastern cedar cracks a lot for me too but some of it is beautiful. my grandpa had some cedars with a lot of heart wood and it was purple/red
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Beautiful Peggy!
Thank you! 😊