They basically seem different mainly in what is different: the nibs. Of course aside the filling mechanism. Most of the comments seem to be about the smoothness and other characteristics or the writing experience. That is to be expected with different nibs. So, to be constructive, I would suggest that besides using the same ink, you use pens with the same nib width. I guess we all know the results in that situation: they would feel and write the same.
I just received my N8 Maple Leaf. I already had the N7 Peacock - brilliant pen, very reliable. They both put down the same line, despite the Maple being Fine and the Peacock being Extra Fine, but the Maple nib has more spring to it (luck of the draw) so more line variation.
Ironically your comments on the N7 N8 were exactly what I was thinking while you were doing the writing sample. The piston filler for a few dollars more is worth it. The amount of ink it can hold is convenient and it is very easy to fill (no mess or fuss with a converter ). If you can swap the N7 nib and feed with the N8 nib and feed it would seem to me to be a perfect piston filler pen. The medium nib seems to dry faster which for me being left-handed is a plus, ( It saves my shirt cuffs). Quite a comprehensive and entertaining review, Garry !
Hi sir! I have a n7 and it is my favourite pen. Beautiful and feels good in the hand. But writes dry. I need to tweak it a little. I was going to buy a n8, but the n6 caught my eye. Thank you for the video.
The N8 gets my vote. I have several Hong Dien pens and enjoy all of them but prefer a medium nib. I also like to change ink frequently so I much prefer cartridge/converter pens. Probably will not buy either of these because with my large hands I want my pens to either be a little longer or excellent posters and the price point is a little high.Thanks for the video, a fun series.
Heya Garry, I have a suggestion for Your reviews. Instead of the usual writing sample, the same one every time. I'd love to see You choose out a unique quote, perhaps a person who You admire or respect. It would give Your channel some added beautification.
The gold and silver are real, but they are plated. So 24k gold plated and silver plated. Plated precious metal are not as expensive as people may think, it is only micron layer thickness. But that also means micron level precision. You need either skill or money to achieve this. Very impressive for the price
@GarryEves Nice comparison, but, like the INK consistency, you probably should look for nib consistency, ie. comparing M to M. Doing a review on its own, it doesn't matter what nib, you are reviewing that as is, but in a comparison it needs to be apples and apples. As noted in a reply to one of your earlier comments: The N7 now comes with EF F M And LongKnife (whatever that is). I just ordered a N7 (Because it's a piston filler) and with the M nib.
As I have the N6, I have avoided the N7 as it is very similar. However the N8 is significantly different. It is certainly a different pen. I do have the N1S. It is lighter than the N6 or 7. I haven't inked it, yet, so, I am not able to compare these two. Any significant staining in the resin? Great comparison, Garry.
Thank you for your interesting and very complete review. While I was watching your video I was asking myself if the nibs of these two pens would be swappable. Have you tried it?
I love the N7 but I am having Problems with the ink flow, if I turn at the bottom the ink splurges all over the place … but a Fountain who stops while I am writing as pretty as it is is going on my nerves … admittingly its my first piston … any tips ?
What ink are you using? I have issues with shimmer inks in piston fillers? It may also be worth looking at pulling out the nib and feed and giving them a good clean before putting them back in. Make sure you are confident to do this before attempting it though. There are quite a few videos on UA-cam demonstrating how to do this on various pens.
I dont like paper that shows through the back page, I use clarifontainne or j burrows. Are there any other paper that is good for fountain pens - no feathering, and don't show through?
I also like Optik paper - in either Oxford or Black n Red notebooks. Ayush paper is also nice, as it it 100gsm, but does tend to be a creamier coloured paper.
That N8 is a beautiful white/silver, i wish it was not as translucent, i'm not a fan of demonstrators having the converter, i'd rather see the ink in the pen than the converter inside the pen holding the ink personally. Dja see the Red N8 Doug reviewed? That might be more up my alley. I pray the triune God of the supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible reveals Himself to you in Spirit & objective truth (John 16:13). May the infallible God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!
It's a nice-looking pen, but although I find the pens nice I don't see myself buying any different models. I am finding that HongDian is making a number of quite interesting pen models now. Hopefully, they keep innovating.
They basically seem different mainly in what is different: the nibs. Of course aside the filling mechanism. Most of the comments seem to be about the smoothness and other characteristics or the writing experience. That is to be expected with different nibs.
So, to be constructive, I would suggest that besides using the same ink, you use pens with the same nib width.
I guess we all know the results in that situation: they would feel and write the same.
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I just received my N8 Maple Leaf. I already had the N7 Peacock - brilliant pen, very reliable. They both put down the same line, despite the Maple being Fine and the Peacock being Extra Fine, but the Maple nib has more spring to it (luck of the draw) so more line variation.
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Ironically your comments on the N7 N8 were exactly what I was thinking while you were doing the writing sample. The piston filler for a few dollars more is worth it. The amount of ink it can hold is convenient and it is very easy to fill (no mess or fuss with a converter ). If you can swap the N7 nib and feed with the N8 nib and feed it would seem to me to be a perfect piston filler pen. The medium nib seems to dry faster which for me being left-handed is a plus, ( It saves my shirt cuffs). Quite a comprehensive and entertaining review, Garry !
The N7 mow comes with EF F M And LongKnife (whatever that is). I just ordered a N7 (Because it's a piston filler) and with the M nib.
Hi sir! I have a n7 and it is my favourite pen. Beautiful and feels good in the hand. But writes dry. I need to tweak it a little. I was going to buy a n8, but the n6 caught my eye. Thank you for the video.
I've got the N6 on my list for future purchase.
I hane the n8 for three weeks. It's such a pleasant writer. I can't believe how smooth feels. Much better than very expensive pens
The N8 gets my vote. I have several Hong Dien pens and enjoy all of them but prefer a medium nib. I also like to change ink frequently so I much prefer cartridge/converter pens. Probably will not buy either of these because with my large hands I want my pens to either be a little longer or excellent posters and the price point is a little high.Thanks for the video, a fun series.
Heya Garry, I have a suggestion for Your reviews. Instead of the usual writing sample, the same one every time. I'd love to see You choose out a unique quote, perhaps a person who You admire or respect. It would give Your channel some added beautification.
I’ve N7 and I love its looks.. But it’s a little too girthy for me, so haven’t decided on N8 yet
The gold and silver are real, but they are plated. So 24k gold plated and silver plated. Plated precious metal are not as expensive as people may think, it is only micron layer thickness. But that also means micron level precision. You need either skill or money to achieve this. Very impressive for the price
Cool. Thanks for the info.
@GarryEves Nice comparison, but, like the INK consistency, you probably should look for nib consistency, ie. comparing M to M. Doing a review on its own, it doesn't matter what nib, you are reviewing that as is, but in a comparison it needs to be apples and apples. As noted in a reply to one of your earlier comments: The N7 now comes with EF F M And LongKnife (whatever that is). I just ordered a N7 (Because it's a piston filler) and with the M nib.
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As I have the N6, I have avoided the N7 as it is very similar. However the N8 is significantly different. It is certainly a different pen.
I do have the N1S. It is lighter than the N6 or 7. I haven't inked it, yet, so, I am not able to compare these two.
Any significant staining in the resin?
Great comparison, Garry.
After my issues with the Jinhao 100 I have syringe filled the N8, so hopefully that will avoid the section staining.
Thank you for your interesting and very complete review. While I was watching your video I was asking myself if the nibs of these two pens would be swappable. Have you tried it?
Not yet, but I am thinking of swapping out the N7 nib for a Kaigelu Long Knife nib.
I love the N7 but I am having Problems with the ink flow, if I turn at the bottom the ink splurges all over the place … but a Fountain who stops while I am writing as pretty as it is is going on my nerves … admittingly its my first piston … any tips ?
What ink are you using? I have issues with shimmer inks in piston fillers?
It may also be worth looking at pulling out the nib and feed and giving them a good clean before putting them back in. Make sure you are confident to do this before attempting it though. There are quite a few videos on UA-cam demonstrating how to do this on various pens.
I dont like paper that shows through the back page, I use clarifontainne or j burrows. Are there any other paper that is good for fountain pens - no feathering, and don't show through?
I also like Optik paper - in either Oxford or Black n Red notebooks.
Ayush paper is also nice, as it it 100gsm, but does tend to be a creamier coloured paper.
I do use Red n Black notebooks. @@GarryEves
That N8 is a beautiful white/silver, i wish it was not as translucent, i'm not a fan of demonstrators having the converter, i'd rather see the ink in the pen than the converter inside the pen holding the ink personally. Dja see the Red N8 Doug reviewed? That might be more up my alley.
I pray the triune God of the supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible reveals Himself to you in Spirit & objective truth (John 16:13). May the infallible God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!
It's a nice-looking pen, but although I find the pens nice I don't see myself buying any different models. I am finding that HongDian is making a number of quite interesting pen models now. Hopefully, they keep innovating.