The Blood Drinking Cult of Thomas Becket | Curator's Corner S6 Ep6

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  • Опубліковано 4 сер 2021
  • You probably don't associate blood drinking cults with Christianity. Stick around and listen to curator Lloyd de Beer walk you through the ever changing, very bloody, Medieval cult of Thomas Becket (aka Saint Thomas of Canterbury) and you soon will!
    Find out more about Thomas Becket, and our exhibition here: bit.ly/3CmUizs
    CONTENT WARNING: probably goes without saying, but there's going to be a lot of references to blood, self-filling jars of blood and ways of acquiring blood (both legal and slightly less so).
    Images of the Miracle Window © The Chapter, Canterbury Cathedral
    The Seven Works of Mercy (detail), 1504. Oil on panel. © Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam, SK-A-2815.
    Becket Leaves © The Trustees of the Wormsley Fund
    Digital Reconstruction © The Centre for the Study of Christianity and Culture (CSCC), University of York.
    #BecketfulOfBlood #BecketExhibition #CuratorsCorner

КОМЕНТАРІ • 393

  • @chattykathie7129
    @chattykathie7129 2 роки тому +228

    Welcome back I’ve missed the curators corner

  • @racheldavis5229
    @racheldavis5229 2 роки тому +77

    So glad Curator's Corner is back. Love this guy's passion and enthusiasm for the smaller, less sparkly, more personal items. Its not so surprising that big shiny things survive the centuries - they're big and valuable. But that these little common articles have survived is a miracle and a testament to how important they were to the people who owned them through time. Either that,or they got lost in a corner and forgotten! 😉

  • @masterdrewanthony
    @masterdrewanthony 2 роки тому +179

    This guy is an excellent orator.
    ...And he should definitely cite this comment in his CV.

    • @lefroy1
      @lefroy1 2 роки тому +3

      Hark!. yon pitter-patter of BBC4 heed t'ward his door.

    • @kelvinkersey5058
      @kelvinkersey5058 2 роки тому +1

      @@lefroy1 I doubt it. too white too male for bbc

    • @homo.incurvatus
      @homo.incurvatus 2 роки тому +1

      @@kelvinkersey5058 was that a joke? genuinely asking

  • @MegaJackpinesavage
    @MegaJackpinesavage 2 роки тому +9

    "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?!!! And here we sit mesmerised hundreds of years later.

  • @naskabeer950
    @naskabeer950 2 роки тому +17

    When I was taught about Beckett and that he used to wear a scratchy vest with maggots and insects underneath constantly to forever remember the pain.. put a 10 year old me off eating rice for a month.

  • @SiriusFeanor
    @SiriusFeanor 2 роки тому +48

    What I enjoy most of all about the Curators Corner is the enthusiasm of curators about their subject. That's really contagious and admirable. Thank you for sharing it with us!

    • @obcl8569
      @obcl8569 2 роки тому +2

      So very true!

  • @lechatel
    @lechatel 2 роки тому +10

    I have found six different pilgrims ampullae in my corner of rural Normandy.Different patterns and decoration depending on which shrine and pilgrimage they were collected from.Most of mine are 13th and 14th century. They would be filled with Holy water and/or oil and then taken home. More than half of my finds are breached, a hole pushed in them and the lead peeled back. The Holy liquid was poured on the land and the ampulla buried as a way of ensuring a good harvest and ambundant orchard etc.

    • @GillRant
      @GillRant 2 роки тому +2

      Very interesting to read, thanks for sharing!

  • @laurabuche5191
    @laurabuche5191 2 роки тому +35

    Coming from a majoritarian Christian (and Catholic) country, Argentina, I have just a very vague idea of who Thomas Beckett is. The video has ignited my interest in reading and learning more about his story.

  • @gaslitworldf.melissab2897
    @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 2 роки тому +36

    Love this channel. Museums really keep history alive and preserved for future generations. I could live in a museum, such the geek that I am.

  • @djhart25
    @djhart25 2 роки тому +60

    "You probably don't associate blood drinking cults with Christianity" kind of cracked me up in the description. That's actually the first religion my mind associates drinking blood with

    • @davidevans3227
      @davidevans3227 Рік тому +8

      in mass everyday

    • @MicaiahYaakovBuzi
      @MicaiahYaakovBuzi Рік тому

      Wannabes British Israelism A joke by jokers of reality 🔥🎃🔥

    • @davidchurch3472
      @davidchurch3472 Рік тому +4

      Precisely - you can get Christ's blood for free in Church daily, but to be able to sell miracle blood and make money on the enterprise, obviously you need the blood of another saint instead : it is rarer, stronger, and therefore deserves a bigger charitable donation to the monastery treasury.

    • @myqueerplantfamily
      @myqueerplantfamily Рік тому

      I remember my little brother yelling “Ewww!” in PSR when the teacher explained transubstantiation 😂

    • @madamedellaporte4214
      @madamedellaporte4214 8 місяців тому +2

      You don't have a clue that is why. I am brought up Orthodox Christian and the actual dinking of blood does not cross my mind. You might be shocked to know that actual blood is not present in Holy Communion.

  • @maureencrawford2275
    @maureencrawford2275 10 місяців тому +1

    Such a fascinating story teller! Thank you so much.

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve never seen the objects ordinary people would have carried back with them…very much enjoyed this.

  • @juliepoppy1021
    @juliepoppy1021 2 роки тому +32

    Thanks so much, this is brilliant. That's how I actually feel about historic objects the really interesting and fascinating objects that were used or worn by lots of people, really are more impressive.

  • @ashcross
    @ashcross 2 роки тому +4

    My life goal is to have someone smile at me in the same way Lloyd smiles at the thought of overflowing miracle blood.

  • @ABlessman
    @ABlessman 2 роки тому +11

    I have watched many Curator's Corner presentations and am so thankful to have had them during the pandemic. This presentation is perhaps my favorite one so far. The storytelling is so well done -and I really appreciate seeing objects like this (of more humble origin.) Thank you!

  • @ericduffield524
    @ericduffield524 2 роки тому +3

    Dr Beer is an excellent teacher. Thanks for Curator's Corner!

  • @fabrisseterbrugghe8567
    @fabrisseterbrugghe8567 2 роки тому +12

    The placebo effect is wonderful.

  • @obcl8569
    @obcl8569 2 роки тому +12

    This was such a rich treat!! It's the sundries, the miscellany that I find most nurtures my affinity to people & times in history. It's like finding something of a relative's & within it getting a true, tangible sense of a part of their day. Magic.
    Thank you for this - cannot wait for the video on the exhibit since most of us can't get to the museum any time soon :) Makes these videos all the more special.

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 4 місяці тому

    Watching this with honour. ❤ 🎉happy saint day!

  • @SkylersRants
    @SkylersRants 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating. Thank you.

  • @nance1111
    @nance1111 Рік тому +1

    I wish I'd had history instructors like LdB when I was in school. He makes learning about the past very interesting. I'm going to read more about Thomas Becket now. Well done.

  • @jaymevosburgh3660
    @jaymevosburgh3660 2 роки тому +9

    This is amazing! I had never heard anything about this at all. Very surprised that none ov my teachers told me about this.

  • @mymind101
    @mymind101 2 роки тому

    Please continue doing this serie, I really enjoy it!

  • @NellaCuriosity
    @NellaCuriosity 2 роки тому +1

    This was a fantastic video! I love Curators' Corner!

  • @cleof1503
    @cleof1503 2 роки тому +1

    I love these #CuratorsCorners. I get to see & experience artifacts i would otherwise never get to see. Thank you

  • @caravaggiosaccomplice7841
    @caravaggiosaccomplice7841 2 роки тому +10

    This was brilliant! Is your name really de Beer? And you’re the gold treasure guy? Too funny. More of this, please!

  • @ArndTWS
    @ArndTWS 2 роки тому +8

    Incredible story and amazing insights into the workings of pilgrimage. Thank you!

  • @EcceJack
    @EcceJack 2 роки тому

    This was absolutely fascinating! Thank you for delving into the small objects, which indeed still tell us a very large and complex story!

  • @rhondahuggins9542
    @rhondahuggins9542 2 роки тому +1

    Living in small town America is not the first place most people would find an ancient Egyptian exhibition...but I was able to view The Ramses Ii Exhibition about ten years ago. I have been an "armchair anthropologist" much of my life, but there, before me artifacts I'd only ever seen in pictures. Of course, all the royal artifacts were magnificent...but my absolute favorite part was a 'hammer and chisel that would have been used by an everyday worker. The hammer looked more like a squatty bell, but you could see the wear on its head from use and a split in the wood on one side. A real person held that and worked with it all day. That to me is the most profoundly relevant reminder of our place in this world. Thank you so much for sharing these three 'everyday' artifacts.

  • @elainelillianjoseph3905
    @elainelillianjoseph3905 2 роки тому +2

    This was bloody brilliant. I really want to see this exhibition now if I can. But it would be even more enhanced if this curator gave a guided tour!

  • @richardthorpe8889
    @richardthorpe8889 2 роки тому

    Well done Mr. De Beer, very engaging description of these wonderful artifacts and their context in this amazing part oh history.
    Thank you.

  • @johnathanadams6378
    @johnathanadams6378 2 роки тому +5

    My absolutely favorite series!

  • @julesschultz2910
    @julesschultz2910 2 роки тому +3

    Great to see the curators again 🙂

  • @davidevans3227
    @davidevans3227 Рік тому

    thankyou for sharing this..
    ..and highlighting parts of the images and pictures we're seeing and explaining them too..

  • @carmenartigas1
    @carmenartigas1 2 роки тому +6

    I love his deep knowledge and passion!

  • @rgnyc
    @rgnyc 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent historical mini-lecture - thank you!

  • @vickiharrington8870
    @vickiharrington8870 2 роки тому +5

    That's an amazing story. I've always been fascinated with Becket. Thanks.

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 2 роки тому +2

    I've missed curator's corner. Thanks for this :)

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold 2 роки тому +40

    "Divine will", aka, money. :) Great story!

    • @thomasbeckett1245
      @thomasbeckett1245 2 роки тому

      Hahaha 🤣… not really. Although they weren’t poor, the wealthy people didn’t have the luxuries we do today.

  • @jbos5107
    @jbos5107 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you all so much for making these videos. So many things and people and places that I will never get to see. It means so much to me and others I'm sure that we can see a bit of the world through these videos.

  • @bedewedwithpleasure
    @bedewedwithpleasure 2 роки тому +2

    Yes yes yes... I love looking at the details but its soo hard to look closely especially the small objects. Thank you for featuring them!

  • @joeastham0
    @joeastham0 2 роки тому

    The passionate presentation of the curator has me hooked

  • @DavidMaurand
    @DavidMaurand 2 роки тому +3

    is curator's corner back?! fantastic!

  • @gerardosalazar161
    @gerardosalazar161 2 роки тому

    Extremely interesting conference and as you said many times we do not pay attention to these humble exhibits and go for the shiny ones without realizing the deep historical value of these relics. Something that never cease to fascinate me is how art decayed so much during medieval times from the Roman times with their highly realistic and well-proportioned images to the childish-like depictions of the Human figure. Thank you for posting Mr. DeBeer and kindly bring out more videos. Have a great day.

  • @sometimessiri.8559
    @sometimessiri.8559 2 роки тому +10

    This was a fantastic presentation and makes me really appreciate the small, every day objects that people in the past held dear to them. I don't know much about religion in general but good marketing is good marketing regardless of the century it's done in. It's also a lot more enjoyable to hear someone speak on a subject that they're clearly interested in and I wish my teachers had taught with the same amount of passion. History is full of amazing stories but it's the best storytellers who are able to bring it to life years later. Well done all around.

  • @arsongrady
    @arsongrady 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, what an orator. Great explanations of the items!! Very interesting.

  • @conningdale8805
    @conningdale8805 2 роки тому +2

    Very interesting video. Would love to see this exhibition, but unfortunately we are all in lockdown here (Sydney). A miracle would be very handy right now! All the best, and thanks for posting this. Good viewing.

  • @gregkral4467
    @gregkral4467 2 роки тому

    Those pieces are very intricate, fascinating, and tell a story. I can imagine someone putting in a lot of work on those details.... as a gift or order, or respect, or love....

  • @MindinViolet
    @MindinViolet 2 роки тому

    That was genuinely fascinating. Thank you.

  • @cj4631
    @cj4631 2 роки тому

    Nice work Lloyd…a metaphor for life on so many levels within three small unassuming objects!

  • @anttibjorklund1869
    @anttibjorklund1869 2 роки тому +1

    I remember years ago visiting the British Museum and having the opportunity to touch that reliquary of St Thomas Becket. It was an inspirational visit.

  • @kimberlypatton205
    @kimberlypatton205 3 місяці тому

    Please continue your remarkable passion and incredible professional insight regarding these objects!I found this video so engaging and full of the kind of details that bring history to life! Things I never would have known or heard about! Thanks! New sub!

  • @lisakilmer2667
    @lisakilmer2667 2 роки тому +8

    This is one of the best presentations in the Curator's Corner series. I wish I could see the exhibit; its premise of how a murder victim was turned into a saint is fascinating.

  • @conmckfly
    @conmckfly 2 роки тому

    What a fascinating bit of history. Thank you for such a great story.

  • @SkunkApe407
    @SkunkApe407 2 роки тому +1

    Hello! New subscriber from sunny Florida here. Fascinating and morbidly interesting material, this. Thank you for sharing!

  • @LaLaLaAllDayLong
    @LaLaLaAllDayLong 2 роки тому +1

    “It’s very good business to never run out of the thing everyone is coming to get” haha so true 6:16

  • @margaretmax-community
    @margaretmax-community 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much. I found that so interesting. Looking forward to more. 🇦🇺

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting and worthwhile video.

  • @mantronixtube
    @mantronixtube 2 роки тому +1

    this is awesome!

  • @flamencoprof
    @flamencoprof 2 роки тому +51

    To me, the "Christianity" of the European Middle Ages is as mysterious, complex and foreign as Tibetan Buddhism.

    • @walmorcarvalho2512
      @walmorcarvalho2512 2 роки тому +4

      I have that feeling too, but regarding Orthodox Christianity in general

    • @majordendrocopos
      @majordendrocopos 2 роки тому +5

      Christianity in all it’s various forms is still as weird as any other religion ever invented, but Buddhism at least has a more caring attitude towards other the animals on the planet.

    • @flamencoprof
      @flamencoprof 2 роки тому +1

      @@walmorcarvalho2512 Forgot that, Icons for a start.

    • @flamencoprof
      @flamencoprof 2 роки тому +1

      @@majordendrocopos Some would say Buddhism is not a religion.
      Personally, I kill ants with a mental apology to their sisters, eat meat because I have canine teeth for a reason, but have never killed anything bigger than a rat or maybe a fish of a kg or so.

    • @majordendrocopos
      @majordendrocopos 2 роки тому +1

      @@flamencoprof Buddhism is not a religion if you need gods to be involved, but it is a way of life and an explanation of how things are and life after death, except for Zen Buddhism which concentrates on now, not later.
      I have omnivorous teeth and a brain and free will, so I eat what it pleases me to eat.
      You may not personally have killed an animal larger than a good sized fish, but if you eat the meat of larger animals then you are just paying somebody else to kill them for you.

  • @gregkral4467
    @gregkral4467 2 роки тому

    fascinating presentation,,,, thank you so much.

  • @floraposteschild4184
    @floraposteschild4184 2 роки тому +4

    I'd like to see DNA analysis of the stained cloths, etc.: how many are actually human blood, and of those, how many different people they came from, and what they looked like.

  • @elizabethingram9784
    @elizabethingram9784 2 роки тому +2

    Very Interesting!

  • @Luna.3.3.3
    @Luna.3.3.3 2 роки тому

    ~Thank you Mr de Beer! for the personal history lesson. As a history nerd & Anglophile, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I hope to visit your fine museum someday. ~Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @EmilyJelassi
    @EmilyJelassi 2 роки тому

    Very interesting video.. Thank you! 😊❤

  • @Chlorate299
    @Chlorate299 2 роки тому +1

    That was really interesting, thanks!

  • @damselfly8
    @damselfly8 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you! So interesting and well done! I used to love spending time a the BM.

  • @madaug5101
    @madaug5101 2 роки тому

    This was very interesting. I never knew any of this, thank you.

  • @bobm.4268
    @bobm.4268 2 роки тому +1

    excellent thank you!

  • @Ceorolus
    @Ceorolus 2 роки тому

    I enjoyed this video reminding me of the exhibition and the story behind the ampullae.

  • @CamdenArtsCentre
    @CamdenArtsCentre 2 роки тому

    thank you for the story , amazing

  • @bwiddi2
    @bwiddi2 2 роки тому

    Fantastic!

  • @simonettapolenghi1404
    @simonettapolenghi1404 2 роки тому

    Brilliant, thank you

  • @joekeegan937
    @joekeegan937 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting; thank you.

  • @Sweetgi28
    @Sweetgi28 2 роки тому

    Oh the corners back! Yay!

  • @AngelaBonanza
    @AngelaBonanza 2 роки тому +1

    Lloyd is so cute and so enthusiastic!! Such an interesting video

  • @Oj12323
    @Oj12323 2 роки тому +3

    I would literally pay this guy to sit in the corner of my room rocking in a chair talking about history while I just chill 🤣

  • @deejayk5939
    @deejayk5939 2 роки тому

    So interesting!

  • @lelleithmurray235
    @lelleithmurray235 2 роки тому

    Fascinating!

  • @gnarshread
    @gnarshread 2 роки тому

    This was exellent.

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 2 роки тому

    Much enjoyed this UA-cam

  • @sam21462
    @sam21462 2 роки тому

    So much of this excellent presentation just kept making me think of Father Guido Sarducci.

  • @alessandrofirmani700
    @alessandrofirmani700 2 роки тому

    Been soo many times in that museum, live it, is always a jurney

  • @chuth2768
    @chuth2768 Рік тому +1

    "You probably don't associate blood drinking cults with Christianity. "
    it's literally the most important part

    • @chuth2768
      @chuth2768 Рік тому

      "Antitransubstantiationalism was a mistake" - Hayao Miyazaki

  • @colinbrigham8253
    @colinbrigham8253 2 роки тому

    Thank you ,🤗

  • @hardmuscl4life
    @hardmuscl4life 2 роки тому

    Well done.

  • @cat_city2009
    @cat_city2009 2 роки тому +2

    What's really amazing is the superstition and tall tales of medieval Christianity.

  • @jlee4039
    @jlee4039 2 роки тому +1

    This was great! (and not based on looted artifacts!) 👍👏👏

  • @lowlize
    @lowlize 2 роки тому +4

    All this blood drinking and blood healing stories must certainly have been an inspiration for Bloodborne

  • @malcolmboyd3503
    @malcolmboyd3503 2 роки тому

    Fascinating

  • @Reddragon2157
    @Reddragon2157 2 роки тому +7

    Is this the inspiration for bloodbornes church of blood healing? Either way, fear the old blood.

  • @carlabattistella1483
    @carlabattistella1483 2 роки тому

    Amazing

  • @TheGigigurl
    @TheGigigurl 2 роки тому

    Ahhhh...weird history my favorite cup of tea

  • @diegoguerra8736
    @diegoguerra8736 2 роки тому

    Awesome

  • @delphinidin
    @delphinidin 2 роки тому

    I think I speak for everybody when I say.... what the actual f***.
    Fascinating video!

  • @DingbatToast
    @DingbatToast 2 роки тому

    It's all about the Merch!

  • @oldmanpence4803
    @oldmanpence4803 2 роки тому +4

    Good sir, you had my attention at “murder”. Carry on, please.

  • @Freshwater121
    @Freshwater121 2 роки тому +1

    We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. Fear the Old Blood.

  • @zantonsus
    @zantonsus Місяць тому

    Is there a theory he camped out in Sandwich via tunnels rather than the continent. I'm from Sandwich, been in tunnels and crypt so i assumed that's why i had an embellished vision on dmt related to it all, where the blood was beyond miraculous and still used. Fascinating video.

  • @commentpost907
    @commentpost907 2 роки тому +1

    ‘Miracles’