Small correction bro Badagas people do not belong to tamilnadu they have migrated from mysore in order to escape from Thipusuthran during his time. All other trials belong to Niligiris
The name Badaga, meaning 'northerner', comes from Old Kannada Badagana, meaning 'north.'According to the Badaga oral tradition, their ancestors were presumed to be Vokkaligas who migrated from the plains of Mysore to avoid Muslim persecution.[1][2] According to American anthropologist Paul Hockings, whose research on the Badagas spans nearly six decades,
Vokkaligars are not migrated they are Native citizens of "Kongu nadu" Migratted peoples are baduga people at earlier not all kannadigars Ganga / Kongu Dhesa: Kongu Nadu of the Gangas dynasty land is owned to the Nation of Karnataka that is divided only by language. Karnataka Land : Kongu Nadu- Ganga Dynasty at South Maal Nadu- Kadamba Dynasty at Middle Tulu Nadu- Chalukya Dynasty at North Gowders and Nayakers also live in Kongu Nadu, this Kongu Nadu does not belong to Tamilnadu and Kerala, That is full and full owned Karnataka because the King name of the Western Ganga dynasty, The Great King Name is Konganivarma Madhava, So here called the region as Kongan Nadu or Kongu Nadu by Tamil peoples Kongu name is full belongs to the Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka, Most theories have been based on Ganga and River Ganges. Somehow they should be related. Ganga Empire is called Gangavadi or Gangapadi. However, Gangas started their kingdom in Kolar and later Nandi Hills(Near Bangalore). Only later Talavanapura (Talakad) was established as Capital. Inscriptions call them Konganis after their Kongani varma, though they call themselves Ganga vamsa in Karnataka Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka since 2nd-century Gowders are Blood heirs ( Ancestry) to Kongu Nadu Gowder and gounder names are same to only Vokkaligars in case of speech at tamilnadu, Gounder name given to Tamil people to the identification of Ganga land, Tamil speak people migrated from Chola Nadu and Pallava Nadu to Ganga/Kongu Nadu On 26 January 1950, it was formed as Madras State following linguistic lines. The state was finally renamed Tamil Nadu on 14 January 1969 by C.N. Annadurai, but kongu land full owned to Karnataka Look at this Tamil video to know the Kalabhras of the Ganga dynasty: ua-cam.com/video/VJvhHg6gryU/v-deo.html&authuser=0 The Tamil novel Sarithai mentions a Kalappira king named Achuthak Kalappalan. The book states that Ivan imprisoned the three hairdressers Chera, Chola and Pandiyar. Some of the songs about him are featured in the Yapparungala Karikai text and the Yapparungala Viruthi speech. Many historians told that the Kalapirars belonged to the Karunataka and conquered Tamil Nadu from Periyapurana Save Kannada..land ! Grow Kannada... !!
First recorded history of Badugas in Nilgiris. is 1590 when Italian Priest ferrera visited and stayed in Baduga village Melur and Konavakarai. But Tipusultan period is 1800s so the o formation provided by Paul hockings is totally wrong and in his last writing he clearly mentioned that his information is wrong. The worship stone and carvings of Ancient Badaga villages were dated 5AD, which clearly says Badugas resided before 2000 years atleast in Nilgiris.
25% may be. Moundadan chetty community was not mentioned in Gudalur region...they are the pupils lived decades and provided shelter to kurmaas, kattu nayakkars and panniyas for helping their agriculture. Community was asked to maintain a temple Nambalakodu...Gudalur and pandalur was missed out completely....Pandalur was revenue land for British since gold mining was happened on those days
As someone born and brought up in the Nilgiris, this video is a real eye opener on the rich heridity and diversity of the Nilgiris long before the British came here.Therefore today we must preserve that diversity and culture of the Nilgiris.Thank youu for makung this short but very informative video. Although Tamil is not my mother toungue i do undetstand and can follow Tamul si was able to understand the commentry in the video but would it be possible to put some subtitles in English specially for those viewers from other states of India and also ourside of India who cannot undetstand Tamil and will miss out on the richness of the information and knowledge on this District put into the video.A District that draws tourists from all over the world and more specifically from the different states of India who could muss out o.n the information provided in this video. Every year lots of tourists come here, except for these past 2 years because of COVID 19 not much of tourists have been coming. God Bless you and your team fir bring out this first ynbiased video on the history of the Nilgiris. .
Thank you very much your feedback. As advised by you, we have added the subtitles in English (at the possible extent for us), so people who cannot follow Tamil also can understand the video contents. Once again thanks for your suggestions, will come back shortly with an another interesting video about Nilgiris. Thanks, Vanam 360 team.
Nice to see this video but need clarification who are the indigenous people of the Nilgiris and who where migrated , Tribes of Nilgiris (toda,kota,kurumbar,kattunayakan,panniyas,irular those were the( primitive) indigenous people's of Nilgiris, if u need any clarification about I said pls refer with govt of India (tribal research centre )at Ooty ,
And bro this vello from Kota community, and I could see that you have directly mentioned that the Kota community was helpers for badags!... If so can u pls prove how.? As we were speclist on pottery, black smith and the it goes on. I think it will great to hear from regarding the topic.... Thanks you
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Was any link with Vadukar community of Palakkad district in Kerala State? Badaga and Vaduka community are same or different communites? Perhaps if any relationship between this two, any one can share the details of evidence?
Nice video @Vanam 360. But neenga sonathu correct tha but yea bro kotagiri erundha makal nu soliringa yea Badagas mention panala. Oru Place ooda history solrathum atha terinjikarathum nalathu tha but Anga valandha makal yaru nu mention panunga correct ah. Thankyou
@@tn43primitivetribe94 You need to provide the proof that Badugas came from Karnataka since you have posted your comment confidently...I just asked for my understanding...
Am also at Niligris ...super video bro keep it up ... I got more information frm this video channel ..... Keep going dude 💪 And make a video of nilambur Kovilakam ..wht r the issues with Niligris land ..
It's correct dhimbatti was the place where John Sullivan settled his camp for a month then later his office was shifted to Kannerimukku as per the records.
only 50% inormation mysore rulers used as vacation spot its under mysore rulers post indipendence. its all kannada people were there now also many places have kannada names
Badagas are people who came from karnataka....The names of the Hatties( Villages) did not exist then...Todas are the first people whom John Sullivan encountered..plz don't change history nor add cooked up theories...
Hello Madam, Thanks for watching the video and your comments. We would like to clarify the following. 1. We are aware of the the ongoing debate what you have mentioned in your comment. But we have not only referred the Paul Hockings book, we also referred various books by J.W.Breeks, E. Francis, Edgar Thurston, Willam E Marshal, H.R. Rivers and many other articles. Information is not be same in all books. 1. As per our understanding the first note about Nilgiris by a Westerner is by Mr.Fininicio in 1603 and he has mentioned about Todas and Badagas (I think there are some notes about Nilgiris in Siapathikaram and also by King Vishnu Vardhana in 12th century ). So what we are trying to convey in the video is that the said group of people were living in Nilgiris irrespective of Change in King/Dynasty and they were living in Nilgiris before British arrives there. And just for your information, few other Britishers have visited nilgiris before Mr.John Sullivan and it was firstly by Dr.Francis Buchanan. In 1800s, he has visited lower part of Nilgiris and during his visit, he met some Irulas (as per available references). So our main moto is to explain the interesting history of Nilgiris based on various records. We have not focussed on which group moved to this land first and which is last..Thanks for your understanding on this.
FYI UN accreditation ll not be given to a migrated community. But badaga community has accredited by UN. It means their origin is the Nilgiris. Ppl who migrated from mysore are odayas and lingayats but not badagas. Still odayas and lingayats marry only mysore ppl. Whereas badaga ll never marry anyone other than their community. Names of village did not exist when? Just because Sullivan met todas first, it doesn't mean they are the only ppl who lived there.
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7.12 Nilambur kovilagathula inaikapadudh ok va .. History nama explain pandradh tha elarkum theriyum so plz note theese points ❣️❣️ By Heaven Rider Nilgiris @heaven_Riders_Nilgiris
I am from Kerala but born and brought up in Manjoore in 1958 to1962 period during the kundah hydro-electric project. i am appreciating this video but more modern period devlopments ,personalities are not covered. so do another one about it.
Badaga , Irula,,betta kuruba,,kadu kuruba, jenu kuruba,,mullu kuruba ,kota, kadu Nayaka, soliga, these people ,s are speech in old Kannada,and village Kannada.90℅ Kannada and 10℅ Tamil & malayalam mix..because the Nilagiri and Waynad, kasaragodu ,area,s ruling in Tamil nadu & Kerala government.......but really two area,s was Kannada people own land...& back century this area was Mysore Raja ruling administration..
The name Badaga, meaning 'northerner', comes from Old Kannada Badagana, meaning 'north.' According to the Badaga oral tradition, their ancestors were presumed to be Vokkaligas who migrated from the plains of Mysore to avoid Muslim persecution. According to American anthropologist Paul Hockings, whose research on the Badagas spans nearly six decades, "the (Badaga) tribe despite its sketchy history is as indigenous to the Nilgiris as the English are to Britain. So Badaga BJP MP Master Marhan did not do anything even in the BJP ruling period. Badagas Many badagas of Nilgiris have their surname as Gowder which is Gowda in kannada and are Vokkaligas. The fact that Badagas main occupation is agruculture reiterates they arr Vokkaligas. Gowder is a surname used by all badaga clans except two badaga clans of Haruva and Adhikari. Many Badagas of Nilgiris are Vokkaliga Gowdas of ancient Karnataka who migrated from Ummathuru, Tagaduru, Hosahalli, Thayuru regions of current Kollegal and Chamrajnagar districts. They represent the majority clans. Few have adopted Lingayat traditions in their culture. Badagas traditions invoke their places of origin and their ancestors in their prayers even today. Nilgiris was actually in Mysuru presidency later came under British.Nilgiris has connection with British not with Tamils.Before Independence Baduga was written using Kannada script.Nilgiris is just like Chikka magaluru etc of Karnataka which was in Mysuru presidency later came to Madras presidency.Langague of Madras presidency is Kannada,Telugu,Malayalam,Urdu,Tamil Not only Tamil But official language of mysuru presidency was Kannada only.Nilgris,waynad should be merged with Karnataka.Tamils were brought to this place just as labourers by Britishes just like They took Tamils to Mumbai etc.Nilgiris and waynad Should rightfully belong to Karnataka.
Hi, Thanks for watching the video. Here comes the few replies for your comment. 1. We are aware of the the ongoing debate what you have mentioned in your comment. But we have not only referred the Paul Hockings book, we also referred various books by J.W.Breeks, E. Francis, Edgar Thurston, Willam E Marshal, H.R. Rivers and many other articles. Information is not be same in all books. Our focus is to explain the history of Nilgiris and not to conclude which group moved to this land first and which is last (as we do not solid reference for any). 2. And for your information after the Treaty of Srirangapatna, Nilgiris was controlled by Madras presidency not by Mysore presidency. 3. Also your statement of "Nilgiris and Waynad Should rightfully belong to Karnataka" may not be logically correct. Long time ago, most of the southern parts including Nilgiris was part of Maurya Empire(who was based from current day Patna, Bihar). Will you agree if people say all those portions including Nilgiris should rightfully belong to Bihar ? In my opinion, we need to forget the differences and stand unitedly as Indian.. Hope you will take our replies positively..
Lol nilgiris and waynad belong to karnataka 🤣fantasy kannadiga story . Firstly it not that tamils brought there as labours by british infact badagas are migrants here who came during islamic invasion after fall of vijayanagara.infact many of the kannada people came here during islamic invasion for example among gounders you will find tuluva gounders they are originally tuluva in origin but they assimilated in tamilnadu
@@abiasher6703 how can someone be so chauvinistic!? Baduga people do worship and have statues of Hakka-Bukka, who were from Karnataka and built the mighty Vijayanagar dynasty. Do you have any explanation on this? This pretty much shows where and to whom Kongu Naadu rightfully belonged. Ella naave ellavu namadhe annuva muttalara hatra mathadoke hege agathe! Hogi kelsa nodkoli.
Please tell the correct information for people. Don't explain wrong history because first you read about the people ,then you tell the story . Nobody's depend the thodas people. They only depend kotas people. Please collect the kotas history after you tell the other cast people.
உண்மையை மட்டுமே சொல்லுங்கள்... நீலகிரியானது கர்நாடகாவின் கங்கா (கன்னட) தேச நிலமே.. கொங்கு நாடு ஆகும் "கொங்கு" என்ற பெயர் கர்நாடகாவின் கங்கா நாட்டின் மன்னர் "கொங்கனிவர்மா மாதவன்" என்பது மருவி "கொங்கன் நாடு" மற்றும் "கொங்கு நாடு" என தமிழ் மக்களால் அழைக்கப்பட்டது, கர்நாடகாவின் ராஜாவின் பெயரை கொண்டே கொங்கன் நாடு மற்றும் கொங்கு நாடு என அழைக்கப்படுகிறது கர்நாடகாவின் நிலம் : கொங்கு நாடு - கங்கா வம்சம் (தெற்கு தேசம்) மால் நாடு - கடம்ப வம்சம் (நடு தேசம்) துலு நாடு - சாளுக்கிய வம்சம் (வடக்கு தேசம்) கொங்கு நாடு "கங்கை", "கங்கா" என்ற வார்த்தையின் மாறுபாடான "கொங்காதேசம்" என்பதிலிருந்து வந்தது, அதாவது "கங்கைகளின் நிலம்" மேற்கு கங்கா வம்சம் கொங்கு நாடு கர்நாடகாவுக்கு சொந்தமானது, மொழி வாரியாக மட்டும் தான் பிரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது தவிரா நிலம் வாரியாக இல்லை, கன்னட மக்களே பூர்விக இரத்த வாரிசுகள் கொங்கு நாட்டிற்கு, தமிழ்நாட்டில் கிழக்கு தொடர்ச்சி மலையிலிருந்து மேற்கு நிலமும் மேற்கு தொடர்ச்சி மலையிலிருந்து கிழக்கு நிலமும் முழுவதும் கர்நாடகாவுக்கு சொந்தமான நிலம் கொங்கு நாடு.. ஆகும்.
Nilgiri is native land of Kongu Nadu Ganga / Kongu Dhesa: Kongu Nadu of the Gangas dynasty land is owned to the Nation of Karnataka that is divided only by language. Karnataka Land : Kongu Nadu- Ganga Dynasty at South Maal Nadu- Kadamba Dynasty at Middle Tulu Nadu- Chalukya Dynasty at North Gowders and Nayakers also live in Kongu Nadu, this Kongu Nadu does not belong to Tamilnadu and Kerala, That is full and full owned Karnataka because the King name of the Western Ganga dynasty, The Great King Name is Konganivarma Madhava, So here called the region as Kongan Nadu or Kongu Nadu by Tamil peoples Kongu name is full belongs to the Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka, Most theories have been based on Ganga and River Ganges. Somehow they should be related. Ganga Empire is called Gangavadi or Gangapadi. However, Gangas started their kingdom in Kolar and later Nandi Hills(Near Bangalore). Only later Talavanapura (Talakad) was established as Capital. Inscriptions call them Konganis after their Kongani varma, though they call themselves Ganga vamsa in Karnataka Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka since 2nd-century Gowders are Blood heirs ( Ancestry) to Kongu Nadu Gowder and gounder names are same to only Vokkaligars in case of speech at tamilnadu, Gounder name given to Tamil people to the identification of Ganga land, Tamil speak people migrated from Chola Nadu and Pallava Nadu to Ganga/Kongu Nadu On 26 January 1950, it was formed as Madras State following linguistic lines. The state was finally renamed Tamil Nadu on 14 January 1969 by C.N. Annadurai, but kongu land full owned to Karnataka Look at this Tamil video to know the Kalabhras of the Ganga dynasty: ua-cam.com/video/VJvhHg6gryU/v-deo.html&authuser=0 The Tamil novel Sarithai mentions a Kalappira king named Achuthak Kalappalan. The book states that Ivan imprisoned the three hairdressers Chera, Chola and Pandiyar. Some of the songs about him are featured in the Yapparungala Karikai text and the Yapparungala Viruthi speech. Many historians told that the Kalapirars belonged to the Karunataka and conquered Tamil Nadu from Periyapuran Kongu Nadu is owned to Karnataka South land.
Finaly i tel u all one think thos who talking about religen .....tamil baduga like that .......my father is army mane in India..tel me now who am i stup it nonsens pepol talking about Religeyan
Yes you are correct bro. This people what want means they want land and want to sale want to make money. Money money money that's the life. But for us we know this is not land this is our mother blood that we can't sale it.
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Nilgiris is the place i loved the most, can't imagine what a beautiful place it would have been a hundred years back
Iam a nilgiri guy we love malayali people and they love us
ப்ரோ நான் நீலகிரி gudalur devala நீங்க
Na gdr nanthaty
Small correction bro Badagas people do not belong to tamilnadu they have migrated from mysore in order to escape from Thipusuthran during his time. All other trials belong to Niligiris
Unga appa sonana migerated nu ella netha nilgiri colectora
Correct bro
@@vivekandhansundran1767 ingu enna da punda unmaiyatha na solraru
Baduga people r tribes community for the Nilgiris..... Not migrated
They migrated they were cowards back then @@gowthamraman8154
The name Badaga, meaning 'northerner', comes from Old Kannada Badagana, meaning 'north.'According to the Badaga oral tradition, their ancestors were presumed to be Vokkaligas who migrated from the plains of Mysore to avoid Muslim persecution.[1][2] According to American anthropologist Paul Hockings, whose research on the Badagas spans nearly six decades,
Madam, Thanks for your reply. We have added our part of clarifications in your another message. Thanks..
Vokkaligars are not migrated they are Native citizens of "Kongu nadu"
Migratted peoples are baduga people at earlier not all kannadigars
Ganga / Kongu Dhesa:
Kongu Nadu of the Gangas dynasty land is owned to the Nation of Karnataka that is divided only by language.
Karnataka Land :
Kongu Nadu- Ganga Dynasty at South
Maal Nadu- Kadamba Dynasty at Middle
Tulu Nadu- Chalukya Dynasty at North
Gowders and Nayakers also live in Kongu Nadu, this Kongu Nadu does not belong to Tamilnadu and Kerala, That is full and full owned Karnataka because the King name of the Western Ganga dynasty, The Great King Name is Konganivarma Madhava, So here called the region as Kongan Nadu or Kongu Nadu by Tamil peoples
Kongu name is full belongs to the Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka, Most theories have been based on Ganga and River Ganges. Somehow they should be related. Ganga Empire is called Gangavadi or Gangapadi. However, Gangas started their kingdom in Kolar and later Nandi Hills(Near Bangalore). Only later Talavanapura (Talakad) was established as Capital. Inscriptions call them Konganis after their Kongani varma, though they call themselves Ganga vamsa in Karnataka
Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka since 2nd-century Gowders are Blood heirs ( Ancestry) to Kongu Nadu
Gowder and gounder names are same to only Vokkaligars in case of speech at tamilnadu, Gounder name given to Tamil people to the identification of Ganga land, Tamil speak people migrated from Chola Nadu and Pallava Nadu to Ganga/Kongu Nadu
On 26 January 1950, it was formed as Madras State following linguistic lines. The state was finally renamed Tamil Nadu on 14 January 1969 by C.N. Annadurai, but kongu land full owned to Karnataka
Look at this Tamil video to know the Kalabhras of the Ganga dynasty: ua-cam.com/video/VJvhHg6gryU/v-deo.html&authuser=0 The Tamil novel Sarithai mentions a Kalappira king named Achuthak Kalappalan. The book states that Ivan imprisoned the three hairdressers Chera, Chola and Pandiyar. Some of the songs about him are featured in the Yapparungala Karikai text and the Yapparungala Viruthi speech. Many historians told that the Kalapirars belonged to the Karunataka and conquered Tamil Nadu from Periyapurana
Save Kannada..land ! Grow Kannada... !!
This is from the book castes and tribes of southern India by a britisher
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongu_Nadu
First recorded history of Badugas in Nilgiris. is 1590 when Italian Priest ferrera visited and stayed in Baduga village Melur and Konavakarai. But Tipusultan period is 1800s so the o formation provided by Paul hockings is totally wrong and in his last writing he clearly mentioned that his information is wrong. The worship stone and carvings of Ancient Badaga villages were dated 5AD, which clearly says Badugas resided before 2000 years atleast in Nilgiris.
25% may be. Moundadan chetty community was not mentioned in Gudalur region...they are the pupils lived decades and provided shelter to kurmaas, kattu nayakkars and panniyas for helping their agriculture. Community was asked to maintain a temple Nambalakodu...Gudalur and pandalur was missed out completely....Pandalur was revenue land for British since gold mining was happened on those days
S bro moundadan chetty is not mentioned
நீலகிரியின் வரலாறு 25% correct
75 thappaa
Pls reply
I think the British developed roads,tea estates,bungalows effect later you said this👍
Thanks for watching our video. Yes, Roads , Tea estates and Bungalows are built after British reached there..
As someone born and brought up in the Nilgiris, this video is a real eye opener on the rich heridity and diversity of the Nilgiris long before the British came here.Therefore today we must preserve that diversity and culture of the Nilgiris.Thank youu for makung this short but very informative video.
Although Tamil is not my mother toungue i do undetstand and can follow Tamul si was able to understand the commentry in the video but would it be possible to put some subtitles in English specially for those viewers from other states of India and also ourside of India who cannot undetstand Tamil and will miss out on the richness of the information and knowledge on this District put into the video.A District that draws tourists from all over the world and more specifically from the different states of India who could muss out o.n the information provided in this video. Every year lots of tourists come here, except for these past 2 years because of COVID 19 not much of tourists have been coming. God Bless you and your team fir bring out this first ynbiased video on the history of the Nilgiris.
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Thank you very much your feedback. As advised by you, we have added the subtitles in English (at the possible extent for us), so people who cannot follow Tamil also can understand the video contents.
Once again thanks for your suggestions, will come back shortly with an another interesting video about Nilgiris.
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Ooty originally belongs to Karnataka
Correct
Nice to see this video but need clarification who are the indigenous people of the Nilgiris and who where migrated , Tribes of Nilgiris (toda,kota,kurumbar,kattunayakan,panniyas,irular those were the( primitive) indigenous people's of Nilgiris, if u need any clarification about I said pls refer with govt of India (tribal research centre )at Ooty ,
Helow unga chenal erukanuma ellaya badugas trailble nu ungaluku theriuma therincha store podunga ella mudittu erunga
It's my native pandalur ,uppatty nelliyam .inga palaya aranmanai irunthathu inga Mysore rani valthatha kelvi patuiruken avanga varisunga innum inga valranga
My native place is coonoor very nice information
And bro this vello from Kota community, and I could see that you have directly mentioned that the Kota community was helpers for badags!... If so can u pls prove how.? As we were speclist on pottery, black smith and the it goes on. I think it will great to hear from regarding the topic.... Thanks you
I have questions for you ???
Very nice and detail explanation. Expecting more videos ..
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Was any link with Vadukar community of Palakkad district in Kerala State?
Badaga and Vaduka community are same or different communites?
Perhaps if any relationship between this two, any one can share the details of evidence?
I gave the particulars only historical. Thankyou
18/19 ம் நூற்றாண்டு காலத்தில் நீலகிரியில் தொழு நோய் தொற்று ஏட்பட்டதாக தகவல் அது எந்த ஊர் என்று அறியமுடியுமா ?
ஒத்தைகல் மந்து என அழைக்கப்பட்டு தற்பொழுது உதகமண்டலம் என மறுவிய ooty-யை சுத்திய பகுதி
@@murugananitha2326 correct bro. கப்பாச்சியில் கல்வெட்டு இருக்கு
I am Nilgiri
Thank you very much
Nanu nilagiri tha
Good keep it up
Voice pakkava irukku video continue pannunga 👍👍👍
Very nice
Super cute is true message iam nilgiri
Super 👏👏
Nice video @Vanam 360.
But neenga sonathu correct tha but yea bro kotagiri erundha makal nu soliringa yea Badagas mention panala.
Oru Place ooda history solrathum atha terinjikarathum nalathu tha but Anga valandha makal yaru nu mention panunga correct ah.
Thankyou
Super. A History of Tirunellvelli book - author Robert Caldwell So many Badaga news there. THANKYOU
அது பாந்தலூர் இல்ல, பந்தலூர்
Badagas r not Nilgiri s origin peoples. They came from karnataka. So pls hereafter don't mention them as nilgiri tribe.
Is there any document shows that Badugas came from Karnataka...
The ppl who came from mysore are odayas and lingayats and not badagas. Dont make rubbish comment with half baked knowledge.
@@mageshkrishnan3966 u have any proof that Badagas r nilgiri tribe???
@@tn43primitivetribe94 You need to provide the proof that Badugas came from Karnataka since you have posted your comment confidently...I just asked for my understanding...
@@praneshhaldorai79 every one knows tat Badagas came from karnataka. So u don't comment like rubbish.
Am also at Niligris ...super video bro keep it up ... I got more information frm this video channel ..... Keep going dude 💪 And make a video of nilambur Kovilakam ..wht r the issues with Niligris land ..
Wat super vdio dai kevalama ella da u sat ur nilgiri
@@vivekandhansundran1767 Like Kanyakumari district, Kerala also lost Nilgiri district....
Good effort .All the best.please verify Sullivan's first settlement was at Dimbhatty or Kannerimukku.
Thank you very much Madam, we will check this point and update the description accordingly.
கன்நேரிமுக்கு ஊர் திம்பட்டி பள்ளத்தாக்கில் அமைந்துள்ளது.
It's correct dhimbatti was the place where John Sullivan settled his camp for a month then later his office was shifted to Kannerimukku as per the records.
நம்ம ஊருக்கு இப்படி ஒரு கதையா 🤓🤓🤓
very informative
super sir i m in coimbatore
1806 la british kattuna house innum iruku
But 1819 la than vanthatha soldringa
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My.native tq sir
God blessed pepoles
Yes, very much true..
Interesting video 👌👍
Thanks for visiting
Really super
Very interesting
Madan Gowri voice madhuri irukku
Bro it is ruled by vettuva king kandeera Koperunalli in sangam era....
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ப்ரோ அது பந்தலூர் .. பண்டலூர் இல்ல
I'm from dhimatti
2:48... the year is wrong.. please change ..
Dear Sir, the mistake in the subtitle has been corrected.
only 50% inormation mysore rulers used as vacation spot its under mysore rulers post indipendence. its all kannada people were there now also many places have kannada names
Kaalaraja The Great Baduga king 👑
Badagas are people who came from karnataka....The names of the Hatties( Villages) did not exist then...Todas are the first people whom John Sullivan encountered..plz don't change history nor add cooked up theories...
Hello Madam,
Thanks for watching the video and your comments. We would like to clarify the following.
1. We are aware of the the ongoing debate what you have mentioned in your comment. But we have not only referred the Paul Hockings book, we also referred various books by J.W.Breeks, E. Francis, Edgar Thurston, Willam E Marshal, H.R. Rivers and many other articles. Information is not be same in all books.
1. As per our understanding the first note about Nilgiris by a Westerner is by Mr.Fininicio in 1603 and he has mentioned about Todas and Badagas
(I think there are some notes about Nilgiris in Siapathikaram and also by King Vishnu Vardhana in 12th century ).
So what we are trying to convey in the video is that the said group of people were living in Nilgiris irrespective of Change in King/Dynasty and they were living in Nilgiris before British arrives there.
And just for your information, few other Britishers have visited nilgiris before Mr.John Sullivan and it was firstly by Dr.Francis Buchanan. In 1800s, he has visited lower part of Nilgiris and during his visit, he met some Irulas (as per available references).
So our main moto is to explain the interesting history of Nilgiris based on various records. We have not focussed on which group moved to this land first and which is last..Thanks for your understanding on this.
FYI UN accreditation ll not be given to a migrated community. But badaga community has accredited by UN. It means their origin is the Nilgiris. Ppl who migrated from mysore are odayas and lingayats but not badagas. Still odayas and lingayats marry only mysore ppl. Whereas badaga ll never marry anyone other than their community. Names of village did not exist when? Just because Sullivan met todas first, it doesn't mean they are the only ppl who lived there.
Don't know what thrill and happiness you get by stickering us a migrant?
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@abi asher Don't change the history and twist here.... Badagas r the origin and மண்நின் மைந்தர்கள்.
நீலகிரி மாவட்டம் பெயர் மட்டுதன இல்ல நீலகிரி என்று ஊர் இருக்க bro
Name only
7.12 Nilambur kovilagathula inaikapadudh ok va .. History nama explain pandradh tha elarkum theriyum so plz note theese points ❣️❣️ By Heaven Rider Nilgiris @heaven_Riders_Nilgiris
தல எங்க ஊரு பத்திபோடுங்க கோவை
Sure Brother...
@@Vanam போடீங்க
I am from Kerala but born and brought up in Manjoore in 1958 to1962 period during the kundah hydro-electric project.
i am appreciating this video but more modern period devlopments ,personalities are not covered. so do another one about it.
Pls more vedios
Badaga , Irula,,betta kuruba,,kadu kuruba, jenu kuruba,,mullu kuruba ,kota, kadu Nayaka, soliga, these people ,s are speech in old Kannada,and village Kannada.90℅ Kannada and 10℅ Tamil & malayalam mix..because the Nilagiri
and Waynad, kasaragodu ,area,s ruling in Tamil nadu & Kerala government.......but really two area,s
was Kannada people own land...& back century this area was Mysore
Raja ruling administration..
Thiyagal. Anand
நீலகிரி மாவட்டத்தில் உள்ள தோடர்கள் பூர்வீகம் கிடையாது
The name Badaga, meaning 'northerner', comes from Old Kannada Badagana, meaning 'north.' According to the Badaga oral tradition, their ancestors were presumed to be Vokkaligas who migrated from the plains of Mysore to avoid Muslim persecution. According to American anthropologist Paul Hockings, whose research on the Badagas spans nearly six decades, "the (Badaga) tribe despite its sketchy history is as indigenous to the Nilgiris as the English are to Britain.
So Badaga BJP MP Master Marhan did not do anything even in the BJP ruling period.
Badagas
Many badagas of Nilgiris have their surname as Gowder which is Gowda in kannada and are Vokkaligas. The fact that Badagas main occupation is agruculture reiterates they arr Vokkaligas. Gowder is a surname used by all badaga clans except two badaga clans of Haruva and Adhikari. Many Badagas of Nilgiris are Vokkaliga Gowdas of ancient Karnataka who migrated from Ummathuru, Tagaduru, Hosahalli, Thayuru regions of current Kollegal and Chamrajnagar districts. They represent the majority clans. Few have adopted Lingayat traditions in their culture. Badagas traditions invoke their places of origin and their ancestors in their prayers even today.
Nilgiris was actually in Mysuru presidency later came under British.Nilgiris has connection with British not with Tamils.Before Independence Baduga was written using Kannada script.Nilgiris is just like Chikka magaluru etc of Karnataka which was in Mysuru presidency later came to Madras presidency.Langague of Madras presidency is Kannada,Telugu,Malayalam,Urdu,Tamil Not only Tamil But official language of mysuru presidency was Kannada only.Nilgris,waynad should be merged with Karnataka.Tamils were brought to this place just as labourers by Britishes just like They took Tamils to Mumbai etc.Nilgiris and waynad Should rightfully belong to Karnataka.
Hi,
Thanks for watching the video. Here comes the few replies for your comment.
1. We are aware of the the ongoing debate what you have mentioned in your comment. But we have not only referred the Paul Hockings book, we also referred various books by J.W.Breeks, E. Francis, Edgar Thurston, Willam E Marshal, H.R. Rivers and many other articles. Information is not be same in all books.
Our focus is to explain the history of Nilgiris and not to conclude which group moved to this land first and which is last (as we do not solid reference for any).
2. And for your information after the Treaty of Srirangapatna, Nilgiris was controlled by Madras presidency not by Mysore presidency.
3. Also your statement of "Nilgiris and Waynad Should rightfully belong to Karnataka" may not be logically correct. Long time ago, most of the southern parts including Nilgiris was part of Maurya Empire(who was based from current day Patna, Bihar). Will you agree if people say all those portions including Nilgiris should rightfully belong to Bihar ?
In my opinion, we need to forget the differences and stand unitedly as Indian..
Hope you will take our replies positively..
Lol nilgiris and waynad belong to karnataka 🤣fantasy kannadiga story . Firstly it not that tamils brought there as labours by british infact badagas are migrants here who came during islamic invasion after fall of vijayanagara.infact many of the kannada people came here during islamic invasion for example among gounders you will find tuluva gounders they are originally tuluva in origin but they assimilated in tamilnadu
I want those Book in pdf... Please this is for thesis...
@@sweetysweet6719 nice explanation...befitting reply...for those Liars..👍👍
@@abiasher6703 how can someone be so chauvinistic!? Baduga people do worship and have statues of Hakka-Bukka, who were from Karnataka and built the mighty Vijayanagar dynasty. Do you have any explanation on this? This pretty much shows where and to whom Kongu Naadu rightfully belonged. Ella naave ellavu namadhe annuva muttalara hatra mathadoke hege agathe! Hogi kelsa nodkoli.
Hi
Thanks for watching Mr.Adhithya.
வேட்டைக்காரன் சமுதாயத்தை ய௫மே
Please tell the correct information for people. Don't explain wrong history because first you read about the people ,then you tell the story . Nobody's depend the thodas people. They only depend kotas people. Please collect the kotas history after you tell the other cast people.
Baduga hi is not tribes
உண்மையை மட்டுமே சொல்லுங்கள்...
நீலகிரியானது கர்நாடகாவின் கங்கா (கன்னட) தேச நிலமே.. கொங்கு நாடு ஆகும்
"கொங்கு" என்ற பெயர் கர்நாடகாவின் கங்கா நாட்டின் மன்னர் "கொங்கனிவர்மா மாதவன்" என்பது மருவி "கொங்கன் நாடு" மற்றும் "கொங்கு நாடு" என தமிழ் மக்களால் அழைக்கப்பட்டது, கர்நாடகாவின் ராஜாவின் பெயரை கொண்டே கொங்கன் நாடு மற்றும் கொங்கு நாடு என அழைக்கப்படுகிறது
கர்நாடகாவின் நிலம் :
கொங்கு நாடு - கங்கா வம்சம்
(தெற்கு தேசம்)
மால் நாடு - கடம்ப வம்சம்
(நடு தேசம்)
துலு நாடு - சாளுக்கிய வம்சம்
(வடக்கு தேசம்)
கொங்கு நாடு "கங்கை", "கங்கா" என்ற வார்த்தையின் மாறுபாடான "கொங்காதேசம்" என்பதிலிருந்து வந்தது, அதாவது "கங்கைகளின் நிலம்" மேற்கு கங்கா வம்சம்
கொங்கு நாடு கர்நாடகாவுக்கு சொந்தமானது, மொழி வாரியாக மட்டும் தான் பிரிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது தவிரா நிலம் வாரியாக இல்லை, கன்னட மக்களே பூர்விக இரத்த வாரிசுகள் கொங்கு நாட்டிற்கு, தமிழ்நாட்டில் கிழக்கு தொடர்ச்சி மலையிலிருந்து மேற்கு நிலமும்
மேற்கு தொடர்ச்சி மலையிலிருந்து கிழக்கு நிலமும் முழுவதும் கர்நாடகாவுக்கு சொந்தமான நிலம் கொங்கு நாடு.. ஆகும்.
ஆம் இவருக்கு தெரியாத வரலாறுயே இல்ல. என் என்றால் இவருக்கு வயது இப்போ 2000 மேலே இருக்கும் 😂😂😂 .
நீலகிரி என்பது ஜாதியின் பெயர்
Idhu ennaya pudhu poraliya iruku
😂😂😂😂😂
Nilgiri is native land of Kongu Nadu
Ganga / Kongu Dhesa:
Kongu Nadu of the Gangas dynasty land is owned to the Nation of Karnataka that is divided only by language.
Karnataka Land :
Kongu Nadu- Ganga Dynasty at South
Maal Nadu- Kadamba Dynasty at Middle
Tulu Nadu- Chalukya Dynasty at North
Gowders and Nayakers also live in Kongu Nadu, this Kongu Nadu does not belong to Tamilnadu and Kerala, That is full and full owned Karnataka because the King name of the Western Ganga dynasty, The Great King Name is Konganivarma Madhava, So here called the region as Kongan Nadu or Kongu Nadu by Tamil peoples
Kongu name is full belongs to the Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka, Most theories have been based on Ganga and River Ganges. Somehow they should be related. Ganga Empire is called Gangavadi or Gangapadi. However, Gangas started their kingdom in Kolar and later Nandi Hills(Near Bangalore). Only later Talavanapura (Talakad) was established as Capital. Inscriptions call them Konganis after their Kongani varma, though they call themselves Ganga vamsa in Karnataka
Western Ganga dynasty in Karnataka since 2nd-century Gowders are Blood heirs ( Ancestry) to Kongu Nadu
Gowder and gounder names are same to only Vokkaligars in case of speech at tamilnadu, Gounder name given to Tamil people to the identification of Ganga land, Tamil speak people migrated from Chola Nadu and Pallava Nadu to Ganga/Kongu Nadu
On 26 January 1950, it was formed as Madras State following linguistic lines. The state was finally renamed Tamil Nadu on 14 January 1969 by C.N. Annadurai, but kongu land full owned to Karnataka
Look at this Tamil video to know the Kalabhras of the Ganga dynasty: ua-cam.com/video/VJvhHg6gryU/v-deo.html&authuser=0 The Tamil novel Sarithai mentions a Kalappira king named Achuthak Kalappalan. The book states that Ivan imprisoned the three hairdressers Chera, Chola and Pandiyar. Some of the songs about him are featured in the Yapparungala Karikai text and the Yapparungala Viruthi speech. Many historians told that the Kalapirars belonged to the Karunataka and conquered Tamil Nadu from Periyapuran
Kongu Nadu is owned to Karnataka South land.
Finaly i tel u all
one think thos who talking about religen .....tamil baduga like that .......my father is army mane in India..tel me now who am i stup it nonsens pepol talking about Religeyan
Yes you are correct bro. This people what want means they want land and want to sale want to make money. Money money money that's the life. But for us we know this is not land this is our mother blood that we can't sale it.
Brother any doubt full detail I sent you contact my mail ID Thanks br0