Actually, each character in sonic superstars kind of has a different opening cutscene, and when starting the game on a new file as Knuckles, it's implied that the Master Emerald basically told him to go follow Sonic & Tails, which is what prompted him to join everyone in the first place, and if you beat Eggman as Knuckles, it shows him being dropped off back on Angel Island.
But can we actually talk about the Black Dragon? What's its deal? In the beginning, Eggman tells Fang to go hunt for it, we never hear it mentioned again besides the mural in Golden Capital Act Knuckles and then it just...appears in the Last Story. No one summons it, there was never a prophecy stating that it would come. It just kind of does. And there seems to be a connection with Trip as well. They're both dragons and she seems to have the vessel needed to seal it away....a vessel that comes out of literally nowhere. Is this a relative of some sorts? A friend gone rogue? Anything as to why Trip has what the heroes need to seal it away? This has to be the worst implentation of an acient monster final boss in a mainline Sonic game due to just how much goes unexplained. The Time Eater had a better origin and its origin is "Eggman found it in a primordial state after Colours".
The Storyline for this Game kinda Relies on people *Watching the Tie-In Cartoon on their Official UA-cam Channel,* which is _a Mistake of its own,_ to Understand how *the Black Dragon* fits into things - _and it's quite Vague even then!_ From what I gathered, *Trip's People* - *_the SunGazer Lizard Clan_* - had an innate Bond with the *Chaos Emeralds* beyond that of other Inhabitants, likely granted when *assigned to Protect their Island and the Prophecies and Chaos Emeralds on it.* It was only a matter of Time however, before one of their Tribe was driven Mad with ambitions of Power, and _tried to use the Emeralds to Conquer their People!_ Seven Warriors of their Clan bravely stood up to *the Transformed Black Dragon Tyrant,* and used their Abilities to Extract the Chaos Emeralds, then Seal it away inside *_the Black EggStone (My Name, to give Dr Eggman a reason to Search for it in the First Place!)..._* ...As with all Sealing Rituals, _those Contained are likely to Escape at some point,_ so after Portaining the Timing from their Oracles, they *_Inscripted a new Prophecy to Warn of the BlackEggStone's Danger and assigned a Giant Serpent to Guard it against those who would seek to abuse its Power..._* The Cartoon is one of those Silent Picture-type deals, so *we only have the Visuals to determine things from* - but with the Game out and Extra Context added, _I think we have the General Backstory figured out!_
@@lianaverwood9810 Okay, I just watched Trio of Trouble and that actually makes a lot of sense. It's just kind of hard to verify anything with this vague mural featuring the sungazers that's only shown in this external source of media and the tiny one in Golden Capital. It also still doesn't explain the Black Dragon's escape from being sealed or where the seal came from so I guess we just have to infer that the Black Egg Stone was passed down to Trip. Wait a minute. Last of their kid? Ancient artifact entrusted to them? If the inference is true, Trip is just Knuckles again.
@@castform7 Yes, it does make Trip a Redo of Knuckles' Backstory - such seems the case whenever these Ancient Chaos Beings are involved... And my Theory on why the Black Dragon Escaped is that Dr Eggman used the Powers of the Black EggStone for his Time Manipulation Device - when it was destroyed, the Dragon broke free from the now-weakened Seal...
@@lianaverwood9810 That would be really cool. I just wished there was something in the game to support it. I would also just like SOMETHING to explain the Black Dragon's reawakening, like maybe the stone can only hold in a creature for 1000 years or a cutscene of Eggman finding the stone in a place Trip hid it and finding a way to unseal it only for him to not be able to control it. This game tells what little of a story it already has so poorly.
@@castform7 Seals don't generally last forever so I would make the assumption that the Black Dragon was basically weakening it constantly until it could no longer hold it.
8:58 This machine can only rewind a few minutes and possibly only the Egg Fortress itself. The Time Eater could do all of history (including stuff that technically never happened) and was Modern Eggman’s plan.
In a way, we could even implied that when Classic Eggman succed at going back to his time, the events of Generations inspired him to create a more compacted time machine.
I can only theorise, but the only way Eggman was likely able to create this Time-Manipulating Device was by drawing Power from the Black Dragon's Sealing Stone - that I chose to call 'The Black EggStone', something that'd lead Dr Eggman to Search for it - and the Advanced Chaos Powers of the Dragon within! That's the only way I can think of to Tie the Eggman Plot into that of the Black Dragon Sub-Plot that SEGA chose to throw in there...
@@lianaverwood9810 Black Dragon was a plan back in Sonic the Hedgehog 3, but was dumped for Eggman as Final Boss. SEGA finally put "Black Dragon" in use by this game.
9:09 Yes?... If you beat the game as Knuckles, there's a cutscene that shows him leaving the group and returning to the Master Emerald once they land on the planet
another sin i wished he mentioned is that, the master emerald shrine became what it looks like in sa1... i mean its a cute ref and a good connection on how the next game is supposed to be adventure, but still i wished he went on a funny rant and go "WHY TF WOULD U MOVE THE EMERALD FROM HIDDEN PALACE ZONE TO THE SURFACE?!?!?!?!?!?"
That whole thing with Ian Flynn saying it wasn't The End almost makes me think "this is like if Shinya Kumazaki actively debunked popular Kirby theories", because "visual stuff that looks like something seen before in the series, implying a connection" feels very much Kirby-like.
@@leithaziz2716if you're referring to the void = kirby "debunk", it was not deconfirmed that kirby is void, what was deconfirmed was void mimicking kirby being proof of that.
My favorite zone was Egg Fortress. The aesthetics have been done before, but playing the same level with everything including enemy and platform movement in reverse was really cool.
I... Don't tend to make comments a lot, cuz' I don't tend to have a lot to say, but the outro bit felt very deep and introspective. Felt like it warranted a comment. When a series puts you on the map, and it's what garners the most attention, it can quickly become the main thing you're known for. Seeing the viewer counts on most of your videos, and comparing it to the viewer count that this series usually gets, it's pretty clear you're widely known as 'the Everything Wrong With guy'. Heck, when I first saw this channel I thought you were just 'the Everything Wrong With guy'! But your videos are interesting, and that game project you got goin'? It's some of the most incredible stuff I've seen! It's got passion, it's got talent, and boy is it awesome! I might just be a flat broke bum living in some middle o' nowhere backwater town, but I can still tell you this: I'm absolutely on-board with some more diverse stuff! I know it's just a comment, just a single like, and merely a single view, but I bet there's plenty of folks out there who think the same! It might not reach the same heights as Everything Wrong With, but if you like doing it, I'll probably like watching it. The way you write videos is just swag like that. So whether it's just a skit, or a sign of something yet to come, I'm always ready to watch it! Cuz' your videos rock!
Sega: STILL insisting Sonic's friends be just "EaSy mOdEs" instead of legitimate alternatives. Even in a game who's entire MARKETING revolves around Sonic teaming up with his friends.
4:40 “Hey it’s not his speed he must be using the chaos emerald to warp” someone at some point must’ve known that the emeralds could’ve had powers on their own just w that line
As an artist, I resonate with that sentiment. Trying something new is risky but sometimes the change you make will come out even better than keep doing the same thing. I may not comment a lot but you do got me motivated and interested on your future projects.
9:10 There are Knuckles cutscenes that explain why he isn’t there and why he came along. Knuckles sensed that something was wrong, and saw Sonic and Tails flying off to these zones. Judging by the fact that he locates all the chaos emeralds, we can assume that’s what he’s after. Now that the day is saved, he went back to Angel Island. (Although I will say, I have no idea why his present during the final boss.)
This is why I rarely play as Sonic unironically. And you have to trigger Knuckles' and Amy's starting cutscenes, you have to start a new file first selecting Amy or Knuckles. I think the Final boss cutscenes can be accessed with one save file, though.
The one thing I have mixed feelings towards is the soundtrack. Some tracks I feel like are some sort of mix of sonic 4 type music whiles others feel orginal
Regarding the Black Dragon. If you manage not to get hit for one minute, you automatically get amy and trip tossing ring boxes at you. Not sure why the game doesn't tell you this.
0:19 Tikal said the emeralds convert thoughts into powers. For all we know, this could've been possible long before Sonic. 0:27 Hey I rewrite stories too. 0:31 Foreshadowing? 1:05 ...Yes. 1:52 Classic. 1:55 Oh! 2:22 Even Tails was ticked. 3:05 Oh hey Dolls, long time no see. 3:46 Cameo 5:19 HADOUKEN! 5:52 Physical abilities. 6:22 I read the Wikipedia that Sungazers are also called Giant Dragon Lizards. 9:06 Yeah there's an exclusive ending for Knuckles. 12:56 You kinda mixed the KO name there. 13:51 Smack. 14:00 'Tis the business.
About the endslate, I have been watching your content for years now, and over time I’ve really come to appreciate it. Not just the Everything Wrong With series, just any video where you are yourself, where you are brave enough to express your thoughts, it is entertaining but also very intelligent or insightful to hear. I love this channel not purely because of the videos, but because of the amazing and inspiring person making those videos. Whatever you decide to do next I am excited to see, and I have no doubts that there are tons of other people who feel the same way. Take care of yourself Chariii5, and have a good day.
I feel like the 41st sin kinda confirms that superstars takes place in the classic demension where it's before Mania, I say classic demension, (despite what SEGA said) because this point could be explained by saying that when modern Eggman told Classic about his past failures, he tried to do what modern did but earlier where Sonic was still more naive & less skillful, on top of that, this could also explain the end being there since it is an alternate timeline where maybe someone caused it to escape from cyberspace earlier, & I say before Mania because of the ending cutscene in Origins, since even Tyson Hesse said that it was meant to tie in with Superstars.
that's the thing allegedly during forces and mania they were intending to do the alternate dimension route, however they recently backed away from it to streamline the games
4:27 "If we turn this game into TOTK and Spider-Man 2 we'll complete the quadfecta of games in 2023" I mean if you want to count the discount enerbeam as web-swinging and Eggman's time machine as recalling I'd say we're good!
Hey Chari! During my play-through of the game i came across a glitch that is very very easy to replicate. In Bridge Island Act 1 there’s a speed shoes box that you can pick up. Once you do that, transform into super sonic or (whatever character you’re using) and finish the rest of the stage. If you speed through the chase at the end fast enough the game sort of bugs out and can’t keep up on whether you still have the speed shoes activated or not. This will cause all the main music for the next couple of stages (until the next mini boss fight) to speed up as if you were still using the speed shoes item. It’s super freaky but also funny to hear the sped up version of the game music despite running at base speed.
That's phenomenal lol I always love hearing about little bugs and oversights like this because it's so easy to miss things like that in game dev due to how specific the scenarios are. They're so easy to replicate and probably easy to fix, but also probably really easy to not even consider.
9:34 I'M SORRY? Why is Amy's eyelids human peach when Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles's eyelids are Blue, Orange, and Red respectively. Was this an oversight. Not only did Sega screw that part up but Charriii5 failed to notice it. HOW IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS?!
The Classic versions of the characters (except for Tails) all have eyelids the same color as their muzzle! That's always been the case, and changed to be the color of their fur in Sonic Adventure DX.
It's explain that the island has magical or something in there making the chaos emerald more powerful, which might explain why he is able to make clones.
Oh no, Charriii's multiple personality disorder is getting worse. His personalities are having their own personalities. Quick, everyone, support him and give him compliments about how we believe in him fully so we can help stabilize him while also telling him the truth!!!
These endslates have me invested. I might not truly understand but I get the struggle of wanting to branch out to newer forms of content and break away from the Cinema Sins styled video format that's been made so popular over the years.
I’m extremely late to the premiere of this vid, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Chariii ended up at Egg Fortress (without the Egg Mobile) after closing the shop menu (That’s what happened to me when I played it on day 1)
On the wisp thing for the purple moon, it may actually be connected to the wisps. Firstly, there's the one planetoid with torches that appears purplish when the torches are extinguished in the cutscene where the mind control cannon goes haywire due to the arm of either Big Boy or Globotron (I refer to it as Globotron due to the DS version being my preferred version) being stuck in it, and then the moon gets hit by a mind control beam turning it purple. The second one would be time travel shennanigins but the first one could be plausible
7:46 Okay, seriously no disrespect to Ian but come on dude. It feels like I'M the stupid one for drawing comparisons to purple planetoids from 2 different games that came out a year apart with the first one having DLC that came out not to long before the second. That thing looks like The End so naturally people are gonna start asking questions. Don't tell me I'm crazy and point out a planetoid with no significance because the developpers "coincidently" made the other look at the very least similar to The End.
0:41 the short answer is: yes. you can't just use a question as a sin, you have to explain here. The sin that I suppose you're trying to sin is that Tails' looking around animation still plays even when Trip isn't unlocked.
Every time I see the ending scene for what you're trying to do it hits a cord with me and I can't help but think "I really hope that what you have planned takes off" I'm hoping you can find your footing good content creator ❤
13:52 oh my god this fourth wall break reminds me of the one in Mario and Luigi superstar saga where when bowser’s castle falls apart, bowser get flown straight into the game’s screen.
I love how they made super sonic amazing in Sonic Frontiers only to make the form weak as piss in Superstars, super sonic goes from dusting the Titans and The End to dying to a simple laser
@@burbusburbus8782 fair, but can that be viable since classic super sonic in sonic 3 and knuckles couldn't die to anything other than pit falls and lava which were done so to keep him from being too broken?
@@RadiantBlazeVA they had to do something to get sonic out of his super form and decided to just having the chaos emerald shot out of him instead of just having his rings run out
@@RadiantBlazeVA see, with frontiers we can infer, or maybe even confirm that supersonic isn't completely invincible. knuckles knocked sonic out of super form, eggman had neutralized the emeralds to stop it, and now the lazers make me think supersonic, while on guard, is more RESISTANT to damage, but not completely invincible
If I had a nickel for everytime there was a 2D Sonic game featuring 4 playable characters and a secret playable character, a final Story segment, Sonic with a homing attack, Tails with a tail attack, Knuckles with a punch attack, Amy who can crawl into a ball at will and a fifth character (who make their first appearance) that is shockingly broken when you know what they're capable of I've had two nickels Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
5:59 I would call that...his basic abilities? Super power means being able to turn super, however they should have just used "Knuckles can now transform into Super Knuckles" as every other classes Sonic game does that, now *that's* the sin
To answer Charii’s question about Eggman making a Time Machine, and thus making the use of the Time Eater useless: Are you considering the possibility that Superstars takes place AFTER the time where Classic Sonic and Classic Eggman were pulled into the future for the events of that game? If it happens afterwords, then Classic Eggman could have used the Time Eater he encountered in the future as a basis for the Time Machine.
15:09 Honestly, before I was made aware of its name, I thought that, due to its many similarities with Trip's Dragon Form, that the creature's name was gonna be Dark Sungazer, but nope, Black Dragon. A fine name by itself, but kinda freaking generic. And for a creature that does look kinda cool, too!
Anyone realise that Classic Sonic learned the Homing Attack and became part of his natural moveset in 3DS Generations and is a Skill in the other version?
Hey, I don't know if you'll see this comment, but whatever direction you take this channel in, know that you'll always have my support. Keep up the great work, man.
One thing that kinda does weird me out though is that Trips a dragon in her super form just because the Black Dragon exists, but why? She looks slightly like a ankylosaurus in a way so...why not the armadillo dino instead? (Don't think that Endslate doesn't excite me because it does!)
The reason why eggman didn’t use his time machine instead of the time eater is because superstars is after classic sonic meets modern sonic (sonic generations)
The fact that they turned Trip into a whole-ass dragon for her super form, but _continue_ to de-canonize Super Tails and Super Knuckles, and also not give us Super Amy (unless we count Origins), deserves more sins than that counter can hold. 1,000 sins. The counter can hold 999 sins, so I'm saying it deserves 1,000 sins.
@@Tailsfan5338 Super Sonic is fine, but the other three barely change at all. If it wasn't for the benefits of being super, you probably wouldn't even notice a difference. At least give them new colors.
15:09 It's completely indigo with black claws and horns, red eyes and grey bracelet, belt and shoes. It's barely even 3% black. Also, why does it have shoes?
I could talk about how, by zone, the acts are inconsistent but instead ill critique the endslate of all things. The sweaters change a bunch. Green is supposed to be the one sitting but swaps with red at least 3 different times
It happened to me too. I didn’t fully understand what I was seeing and ran to the left, thinking that I’d get back to the zone I was just in, and ended up falling through the map, forcing me to reload
I know that in the Legend of Spyro trilogy Cynder used to be black but in Dawn of the Dragon and in Skylanders Spyro’s Adventure she’s much more purple just like Spyro which explains why Cynder is the female equivalent of Spyro
I find it ironic that you found Golden Capital the most original since I've heard that it was a scrapped zone idea from the first Sonic game. Also, I'm really appreciating the scenes during the endslates.
At 3:29 You can also do the same thing but with, Tails. for some old reason they still have the top of his tails while flying count as hiting, Robotnik (or Classic Dr. Eggman.)
Would love to see you do more stuff, always coming back to your cintent becayse I think it's great. If you want to diversify go ahead and do it, we'll support you on this
Alrighty everyone, say it with me. "Wow, a new Sonic game that isn't *terrible*, it has good ideas - just executed a bit poorly." I think this is like the 5th in a row lol
I'd like to point out that when I played this game, it tells you to press the bumpers to deactivate the Chaos powers but it does not work, you can't deactivate once you use them.
5:41 he started learning it after sonic generations, on the final cutscene before the credits, classic sonic tries to perform a homing attack, but fails.
9:05 Actually, it does show that Knuckles heads back to Angel Island to go back to guarding the master emerald if you beat the final boss with knuckles.
18:00 At least Sega is okay with the Internet Archive (like the Internet Arcade section and the Books archives), unlike _some_ video game publishers out there... coughnintendocough
The Omnidroid looking Eggman boss really was a surprise, I certainly didn't expect a boss like that, but not as much as the Tails Doll- I was gonna freak out myself like the edit that was put in when the thing appeared on scream. But the Edit really made me laugh and less fearful, I really appreciated that lol. Then there was Trip turning into a mcfreaking Dragon as their super form, like holy cow I did not see that coming, that was nuts man. In regards to your question on what Level I liked in this game, I think it'd have to be Pinball carnival, the music is really funky and fun, especially when going into Act 2 where it's got Eggman's theme going on in it's design. The First act gave me something of a Studiopolis Vibe, which I really liked in Sonic Mania. The visuals were just stunning too in Pinball, same goes for Lagoon City, very pretty and awesome music! This was a great video, I got a good chuckle and laugh here and there on some of the jokes made here, your thumbnail art is really great too by the way! I look forward to your next video! Stay Safe and Stay awesome my guy. ^^
3:41 - On closer inspection, it kinda looks like the electric balls are either hitting the perfectly dry railings or passing into the foreground. I think this thing is just a really bad aim.
I really liked Trip, but yeah. Sega, you're telling me she can use the emeralds to turn into a full on dragon, but someone like Amy or Knuckles can't get a gold color or upturned quills/dreads. Oh, but I'm sorry, you're not Super any more, you just get super powers... yeah... And yeah, Trip's playthrough was insane. Like by the end, I was questioning who on the team was emotionally or physically damaged by a cute dragon girl. I started thinking they just legitimately hated Trip. Overall I actually really liked the game, and had approximately 1 glitch. But, the issues of not knowing what to do in some areas is definitely true. The final Fang fight also took me an embarrassingly long time. I eventually learned a pattern to the webs, and the lasers, but I was so hyper cautious at that point, a single attempt at the fight took me maybe 20 minutes. There was no proper build of difficulty imo, just an immediate middle finger.
The second I saw that moon in the background, my brain made that connection to the end. Probably just an easter egg to frontiers
If it actually *was* The End, that would raise a lot of questions
It might be the death egg from sonic 4 lmfao
@@Areonwashere But why would it be purple and...not metallic looking?
@freddykrueger1699 hello??? Its always looked purple?
Ian confirmed it was indeed JUST a moon and not The End 😔
Actually, each character in sonic superstars kind of has a different opening cutscene, and when starting the game on a new file as Knuckles, it's implied that the Master Emerald basically told him to go follow Sonic & Tails, which is what prompted him to join everyone in the first place, and if you beat Eggman as Knuckles, it shows him being dropped off back on Angel Island.
Whaaaat? I gotta check this out now, I had no idea!
@@Charriii5 there's also different ending cutscenes for each characters. thought i should point that out
@@famaki8072 I played Egg Fortress 5 different times just to see the ending cutscenes... Please just look them up online.
@@Charriii5that’s why I told you to start a new file as Knuckles during your second Superstars stream.
@@Charriii5also, when you start a new file as Amy, guess where her opening cutscene takes place.
But can we actually talk about the Black Dragon? What's its deal? In the beginning, Eggman tells Fang to go hunt for it, we never hear it mentioned again besides the mural in Golden Capital Act Knuckles and then it just...appears in the Last Story. No one summons it, there was never a prophecy stating that it would come. It just kind of does. And there seems to be a connection with Trip as well. They're both dragons and she seems to have the vessel needed to seal it away....a vessel that comes out of literally nowhere. Is this a relative of some sorts? A friend gone rogue? Anything as to why Trip has what the heroes need to seal it away? This has to be the worst implentation of an acient monster final boss in a mainline Sonic game due to just how much goes unexplained. The Time Eater had a better origin and its origin is "Eggman found it in a primordial state after Colours".
The Storyline for this Game kinda Relies on people *Watching the Tie-In Cartoon on their Official UA-cam Channel,* which is _a Mistake of its own,_ to Understand how *the Black Dragon* fits into things - _and it's quite Vague even then!_
From what I gathered, *Trip's People* - *_the SunGazer Lizard Clan_* - had an innate Bond with the *Chaos Emeralds* beyond that of other Inhabitants, likely granted when *assigned to Protect their Island and the Prophecies and Chaos Emeralds on it.* It was only a matter of Time however, before one of their Tribe was driven Mad with ambitions of Power, and _tried to use the Emeralds to Conquer their People!_ Seven Warriors of their Clan bravely stood up to *the Transformed Black Dragon Tyrant,* and used their Abilities to Extract the Chaos Emeralds, then Seal it away inside *_the Black EggStone (My Name, to give Dr Eggman a reason to Search for it in the First Place!)..._*
...As with all Sealing Rituals, _those Contained are likely to Escape at some point,_ so after Portaining the Timing from their Oracles, they *_Inscripted a new Prophecy to Warn of the BlackEggStone's Danger and assigned a Giant Serpent to Guard it against those who would seek to abuse its Power..._*
The Cartoon is one of those Silent Picture-type deals, so *we only have the Visuals to determine things from* - but with the Game out and Extra Context added, _I think we have the General Backstory figured out!_
@@lianaverwood9810 Okay, I just watched Trio of Trouble and that actually makes a lot of sense. It's just kind of hard to verify anything with this vague mural featuring the sungazers that's only shown in this external source of media and the tiny one in Golden Capital. It also still doesn't explain the Black Dragon's escape from being sealed or where the seal came from so I guess we just have to infer that the Black Egg Stone was passed down to Trip. Wait a minute. Last of their kid? Ancient artifact entrusted to them? If the inference is true, Trip is just Knuckles again.
@@castform7 Yes, it does make Trip a Redo of Knuckles' Backstory - such seems the case whenever these Ancient Chaos Beings are involved...
And my Theory on why the Black Dragon Escaped is that Dr Eggman used the Powers of the Black EggStone for his Time Manipulation Device - when it was destroyed, the Dragon broke free from the now-weakened Seal...
@@lianaverwood9810 That would be really cool. I just wished there was something in the game to support it. I would also just like SOMETHING to explain the Black Dragon's reawakening, like maybe the stone can only hold in a creature for 1000 years or a cutscene of Eggman finding the stone in a place Trip hid it and finding a way to unseal it only for him to not be able to control it. This game tells what little of a story it already has so poorly.
@@castform7 Seals don't generally last forever so I would make the assumption that the Black Dragon was basically weakening it constantly until it could no longer hold it.
I’m trying to imagine the amount of sins that this game would get if we’re counting the glitches in co-op
Quadruple digits, maybe quintuple.
It’s because Sonic is faster paced than Mario which caused multiplayer in the story basically impossible
8:58 This machine can only rewind a few minutes and possibly only the Egg Fortress itself. The Time Eater could do all of history (including stuff that technically never happened) and was Modern Eggman’s plan.
In a way, we could even implied that when Classic Eggman succed at going back to his time, the events of Generations inspired him to create a more compacted time machine.
I can only theorise, but the only way Eggman was likely able to create this Time-Manipulating Device was by drawing Power from the Black Dragon's Sealing Stone - that I chose to call 'The Black EggStone', something that'd lead Dr Eggman to Search for it - and the Advanced Chaos Powers of the Dragon within!
That's the only way I can think of to Tie the Eggman Plot into that of the Black Dragon Sub-Plot that SEGA chose to throw in there...
@@lianaverwood9810 Black Dragon was a plan back in Sonic the Hedgehog 3, but was dumped for Eggman as Final Boss. SEGA finally put "Black Dragon" in use by this game.
@@Fredcat11source ?
9:09 Yes?... If you beat the game as Knuckles, there's a cutscene that shows him leaving the group and returning to the Master Emerald once they land on the planet
another sin i wished he mentioned is that, the master emerald shrine became what it looks like in sa1... i mean its a cute ref and a good connection on how the next game is supposed to be adventure, but still i wished he went on a funny rant and go "WHY TF WOULD U MOVE THE EMERALD FROM HIDDEN PALACE ZONE TO THE SURFACE?!?!?!?!?!?"
That whole thing with Ian Flynn saying it wasn't The End almost makes me think "this is like if Shinya Kumazaki actively debunked popular Kirby theories", because "visual stuff that looks like something seen before in the series, implying a connection" feels very much Kirby-like.
The butterfly
I assume you mean the Zero/Void thing.
@@leithaziz2716if you're referring to the void = kirby "debunk", it was not deconfirmed that kirby is void, what was deconfirmed was void mimicking kirby being proof of that.
That rant about “It’s not The End actually” was so cathartic to listen to because it was my exact thoughts about it!
There's hardly anyone talking about the ending segment, but whatever you decide to do going forwards, I know I'm looking forwards to it.
Is it just me or is he getting better and better at making thumbnails?
Yup, and he is sure amazing at these.
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@@RingLeaderCircusSins *"waiT WAIT WaiT WA I T WAIT WAIT-"*
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My favorite zone was Egg Fortress. The aesthetics have been done before, but playing the same level with everything including enemy and platform movement in reverse was really cool.
Seconded, which make that stage a little unique.
It's sometimes annoying with those fish enemies
The best part of the 3:45 bit is that Super Mario Bros Wonder has a wonder effect that switches the water and the air.
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I... Don't tend to make comments a lot, cuz' I don't tend to have a lot to say, but the outro bit felt very deep and introspective. Felt like it warranted a comment.
When a series puts you on the map, and it's what garners the most attention, it can quickly become the main thing you're known for. Seeing the viewer counts on most of your videos, and comparing it to the viewer count that this series usually gets, it's pretty clear you're widely known as 'the Everything Wrong With guy'. Heck, when I first saw this channel I thought you were just 'the Everything Wrong With guy'! But your videos are interesting, and that game project you got goin'? It's some of the most incredible stuff I've seen! It's got passion, it's got talent, and boy is it awesome! I might just be a flat broke bum living in some middle o' nowhere backwater town, but I can still tell you this: I'm absolutely on-board with some more diverse stuff! I know it's just a comment, just a single like, and merely a single view, but I bet there's plenty of folks out there who think the same! It might not reach the same heights as Everything Wrong With, but if you like doing it, I'll probably like watching it. The way you write videos is just swag like that. So whether it's just a skit, or a sign of something yet to come, I'm always ready to watch it! Cuz' your videos rock!
It's never "Just a comment". Comments, especially ones like this, mean the world to me. Thank you.
The one negative I have to say about this, Fang’s boss fight in Trip’s Story, for one reason alone: *Instant-Kill Attacks.*
literally what i was about to comment
@@cyanthehedgehog777 and also, the True Final battle is a massive wasted opportunity.
@@alvaroperez2349 Haven't played it yet
I guess it was his way of showing payback for all the trauma we caused him.
@@maikayee246He traumatized us (Trip) first 😤
3:16 - Tails can also break this fight by literally just flying.
Sega: STILL insisting Sonic's friends be just "EaSy mOdEs" instead of legitimate alternatives. Even in a game who's entire MARKETING revolves around Sonic teaming up with his friends.
4:40 “Hey it’s not his speed he must be using the chaos emerald to warp” someone at some point must’ve known that the emeralds could’ve had powers on their own just w that line
As an artist, I resonate with that sentiment. Trying something new is risky but sometimes the change you make will come out even better than keep doing the same thing. I may not comment a lot but you do got me motivated and interested on your future projects.
9:10 There are Knuckles cutscenes that explain why he isn’t there and why he came along.
Knuckles sensed that something was wrong, and saw Sonic and Tails flying off to these zones. Judging by the fact that he locates all the chaos emeralds, we can assume that’s what he’s after. Now that the day is saved, he went back to Angel Island.
(Although I will say, I have no idea why his present during the final boss.)
This is why I rarely play as Sonic unironically. And you have to trigger Knuckles' and Amy's starting cutscenes, you have to start a new file first selecting Amy or Knuckles. I think the Final boss cutscenes can be accessed with one save file, though.
12:55 - It's a Screen KO, not a Star KO. Star KOs are when they fly away into the background before turning into a star, hence the name.
Star and Screen KO's are labeled as the same, despite the differences.
Is anyone else both interested and concerned with Charriii5's end segment?
17:34
Ironically enough it was recently discovered that only the water power is the only Chaos Emerald Power that prevents you from being crushed
Trip turning into a dragon is definitely one of the moments in a Sonic game.
Thats why they call her "Trip". Cause she's trippy AF
1:49 The levels are MUCH better designed to ease you into how it works, so I am more than willing to let it go. At least Emeralds aren't locked here.
The one thing I have mixed feelings towards is the soundtrack. Some tracks I feel like are some sort of mix of sonic 4 type music whiles others feel orginal
Regarding the Black Dragon. If you manage not to get hit for one minute, you automatically get amy and trip tossing ring boxes at you. Not sure why the game doesn't tell you this.
Fascinating! I always wondered why they were so rare.
Interesting; I never actually got them to appear in gameplay.
0:19 Tikal said the emeralds convert thoughts into powers. For all we know, this could've been possible long before Sonic.
0:27 Hey I rewrite stories too.
0:31 Foreshadowing?
1:05 ...Yes.
1:52 Classic.
1:55 Oh!
2:22 Even Tails was ticked.
3:05 Oh hey Dolls, long time no see.
3:46 Cameo
5:19 HADOUKEN!
5:52 Physical abilities.
6:22 I read the Wikipedia that Sungazers are also called Giant Dragon Lizards.
9:06 Yeah there's an exclusive ending for Knuckles.
12:56 You kinda mixed the KO name there.
13:51 Smack.
14:00 'Tis the business.
9:42 When I first looked at this form I was almost immediately reminded of Yoshi's Final Smash from Brawl
Said Final Smash's name? _Super Dragon._
About the endslate, I have been watching your content for years now, and over time I’ve really come to appreciate it. Not just the Everything Wrong With series, just any video where you are yourself, where you are brave enough to express your thoughts, it is entertaining but also very intelligent or insightful to hear. I love this channel not purely because of the videos, but because of the amazing and inspiring person making those videos. Whatever you decide to do next I am excited to see, and I have no doubts that there are tons of other people who feel the same way. Take care of yourself Chariii5, and have a good day.
I feel like the 41st sin kinda confirms that superstars takes place in the classic demension where it's before Mania, I say classic demension, (despite what SEGA said) because this point could be explained by saying that when modern Eggman told Classic about his past failures, he tried to do what modern did but earlier where Sonic was still more naive & less skillful, on top of that, this could also explain the end being there since it is an alternate timeline where maybe someone caused it to escape from cyberspace earlier, & I say before Mania because of the ending cutscene in Origins, since even Tyson Hesse said that it was meant to tie in with Superstars.
that's the thing allegedly during forces and mania they were intending to do the alternate dimension route, however they recently backed away from it to streamline the games
Charrii5, Your thumbnails are so amazing and they get a lot of love and attention.
Whatever path you take, we're here with you
4:27 "If we turn this game into TOTK and Spider-Man 2 we'll complete the quadfecta of games in 2023"
I mean if you want to count the discount enerbeam as web-swinging and Eggman's time machine as recalling I'd say we're good!
Hey Chari! During my play-through of the game i came across a glitch that is very very easy to replicate. In Bridge Island Act 1 there’s a speed shoes box that you can pick up. Once you do that, transform into super sonic or (whatever character you’re using) and finish the rest of the stage. If you speed through the chase at the end fast enough the game sort of bugs out and can’t keep up on whether you still have the speed shoes activated or not. This will cause all the main music for the next couple of stages (until the next mini boss fight) to speed up as if you were still using the speed shoes item. It’s super freaky but also funny to hear the sped up version of the game music despite running at base speed.
That's phenomenal lol
I always love hearing about little bugs and oversights like this because it's so easy to miss things like that in game dev due to how specific the scenarios are. They're so easy to replicate and probably easy to fix, but also probably really easy to not even consider.
In sonic forces you actually have to time the target reticles. most noticeably, in the stage where modern sonic escapes the death egg.
Yeah but Forces sucked so pulling anything from that game should be an additional sin on top
@@cb6983 ok, fair but it still exists so it should count.
@@cb6983imo Superstars was worse than Forces
@@phil2160 i personally disagree strongly
7:02 i agree. The only characters SEGA thinks about is Sonic and a new one
Knuckles has a unique animation when you finish the story mode with him It hás a cutscene that shows he gente back to angel island
Okay run & analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Here's looking forward to more great content from you!
6:55 Not to mention she's the only other character in the game who gets to turn golden with her super form. RIP Amy.
And Knuckles.
@@Mistergamer846 Mostly Amy though. Silver and Shadow got to turn golden, why is she the only playable hedgehog who can't?
@@MattwosRandomNonContent And Knuckles was also there as a joke.
@@Mistergamer846 I know, it wasn't funny.
@@MattwosRandomNonContentI found it kinda funny 😞
12:25
this is honestly everyone's pain
9:34 I'M SORRY? Why is Amy's eyelids human peach when Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles's eyelids are Blue, Orange, and Red respectively. Was this an oversight. Not only did Sega screw that part up but Charriii5 failed to notice it. HOW IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS?!
The Classic versions of the characters (except for Tails) all have eyelids the same color as their muzzle! That's always been the case, and changed to be the color of their fur in Sonic Adventure DX.
@@Charriii5 Wow, sounds like a whole new world of inconsistencies I never knew about.
0:22 i like how they gave more power the Chaos emerald barely have but I agree with Charrii here
Hey they rewrote history with Sonic 1 with giving the spin dash to a game that originally didn't have it
Technically, sonic does it in frontiers against giganto and supreme
They made him, they can do whatever they want
It's explain that the island has magical or something in there making the chaos emerald more powerful, which might explain why he is able to make clones.
0:10 The trailers for the game DO have this. So it's even more confusing that it doesn't appear in-game.
6:28 we interrupt sonic superstars to bring you freedom planet
And How to train your dragon
Oh no, Charriii's multiple personality disorder is getting worse. His personalities are having their own personalities. Quick, everyone, support him and give him compliments about how we believe in him fully so we can help stabilize him while also telling him the truth!!!
I mean, his criticisms do kinda make sense, though...
Down to see whatever you got next. : )
6:47 yes! Thank you! The one thing i would hope for in this game is unique super forms for sonic's friends. This disappointed me majorly.
These endslates have me invested. I might not truly understand but I get the struggle of wanting to branch out to newer forms of content and break away from the Cinema Sins styled video format that's been made so popular over the years.
I’m extremely late to the premiere of this vid, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Chariii ended up at Egg Fortress (without the Egg Mobile) after closing the shop menu
(That’s what happened to me when I played it on day 1)
1:53 hey look at that! They’re ACTUALLY in a damn forest this time!
On the wisp thing for the purple moon, it may actually be connected to the wisps. Firstly, there's the one planetoid with torches that appears purplish when the torches are extinguished in the cutscene where the mind control cannon goes haywire due to the arm of either Big Boy or Globotron (I refer to it as Globotron due to the DS version being my preferred version) being stuck in it, and then the moon gets hit by a mind control beam turning it purple. The second one would be time travel shennanigins but the first one could be plausible
7:46 Okay, seriously no disrespect to Ian but come on dude. It feels like I'M the stupid one for drawing comparisons to purple planetoids from 2 different games that came out a year apart with the first one having DLC that came out not to long before the second. That thing looks like The End so naturally people are gonna start asking questions. Don't tell me I'm crazy and point out a planetoid with no significance because the developpers "coincidently" made the other look at the very least similar to The End.
0:41 the short answer is: yes. you can't just use a question as a sin, you have to explain here. The sin that I suppose you're trying to sin is that Tails' looking around animation still plays even when Trip isn't unlocked.
Every time I see the ending scene for what you're trying to do it hits a cord with me and I can't help but think "I really hope that what you have planned takes off" I'm hoping you can find your footing good content creator ❤
13:52 oh my god this fourth wall break reminds me of the one in Mario and Luigi superstar saga where when bowser’s castle falls apart, bowser get flown straight into the game’s screen.
I love how they made super sonic amazing in Sonic Frontiers only to make the form weak as piss in Superstars, super sonic goes from dusting the Titans and The End to dying to a simple laser
to be fair, sonic in frontiers is both older, and more experienced, than classic sonic
@@burbusburbus8782 fair, but can that be viable since classic super sonic in sonic 3 and knuckles couldn't die to anything other than pit falls and lava which were done so to keep him from being too broken?
Super Sonic got shot out of the sky from lasers multiple times in Frontiers too
@@RadiantBlazeVA they had to do something to get sonic out of his super form and decided to just having the chaos emerald shot out of him instead of just having his rings run out
@@RadiantBlazeVA see, with frontiers we can infer, or maybe even confirm that supersonic isn't completely invincible. knuckles knocked sonic out of super form, eggman had neutralized the emeralds to stop it, and now the lazers make me think supersonic, while on guard, is more RESISTANT to damage, but not completely invincible
Is Soul Star coming back?
Also, that The End reference was definitely Sonic Team doing a little bit of trolling
1:56 No way! you're actually right about that lol!😂
If I had a nickel for everytime there was a 2D Sonic game featuring 4 playable characters and a secret playable character, a final Story segment, Sonic with a homing attack, Tails with a tail attack, Knuckles with a punch attack, Amy who can crawl into a ball at will and a fifth character (who make their first appearance) that is shockingly broken when you know what they're capable of I've had two nickels
Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
sonic advance 2 ?
@@wolfenden9805 Bingo
That's a Phineas and Ferb ref.
@@micahheyward5342 An overused one at that
@@gameomer1855 So are the SMB1 overworld and underground themes yet no one complains
5:59 I would call that...his basic abilities? Super power means being able to turn super, however they should have just used "Knuckles can now transform into Super Knuckles" as every other classes Sonic game does that, now *that's* the sin
Remember, SEGA is racist and sexist.
To answer Charii’s question about Eggman making a Time Machine, and thus making the use of the Time Eater useless:
Are you considering the possibility that Superstars takes place AFTER the time where Classic Sonic and Classic Eggman were pulled into the future for the events of that game? If it happens afterwords, then Classic Eggman could have used the Time Eater he encountered in the future as a basis for the Time Machine.
15:09 Honestly, before I was made aware of its name, I thought that, due to its many similarities with Trip's Dragon Form, that the creature's name was gonna be Dark Sungazer, but nope, Black Dragon. A fine name by itself, but kinda freaking generic. And for a creature that does look kinda cool, too!
Suneater
Anyone realise that Classic Sonic learned the Homing Attack and became part of his natural moveset in 3DS Generations and is a Skill in the other version?
Hey, I don't know if you'll see this comment, but whatever direction you take this channel in, know that you'll always have my support. Keep up the great work, man.
5:55 charriii5 the game was talking about knuckles using his super form. No I’m not joking that’s the reason it says “super powers”.
One thing that kinda does weird me out though is that Trips a dragon in her super form just because the Black Dragon exists, but why? She looks slightly like a ankylosaurus in a way so...why not the armadillo dino instead?
(Don't think that Endslate doesn't excite me because it does!)
The reason why eggman didn’t use his time machine instead of the time eater is because superstars is after classic sonic meets modern sonic (sonic generations)
Keep up the good work and keep believing in yourself
The fact that they turned Trip into a whole-ass dragon for her super form, but _continue_ to de-canonize Super Tails and Super Knuckles, and also not give us Super Amy (unless we count Origins), deserves more sins than that counter can hold.
1,000 sins. The counter can hold 999 sins, so I'm saying it deserves 1,000 sins.
Dude, just don’t.
@@Tailsfan5338 I can and _I will._
Come on dude I love super trip and the other 4 super characters in this game. What the heck is wrong with them?
@@Tailsfan5338 Super Sonic is fine, but the other three barely change at all. If it wasn't for the benefits of being super, you probably wouldn't even notice a difference. At least give them new colors.
@@bonedude666 ooooh okay that makes sense. But like I said, I love trip and her super form.
15:09 It's completely indigo with black claws and horns, red eyes and grey bracelet, belt and shoes. It's barely even 3% black.
Also, why does it have shoes?
I love trip’s design without her armor. She’s so cute.
04:05 fun fact Mario Wonder released on my birthday
I could talk about how, by zone, the acts are inconsistent but instead ill critique the endslate of all things.
The sweaters change a bunch. Green is supposed to be the one sitting but swaps with red at least 3 different times
4:52 Well Sega _does_ own Atlus
YO, its the Ainrofilac Region Map, thats so cool to see it again, cant wait to see where your are going with this!
Something weird that happened to me is after leaving the shop I was just randomly placed at the entrance of the last act in the main story
thats a bug i think has been fixed now
@@mayotails4602 Nah, it still works
It happened to me too. I didn’t fully understand what I was seeing and ran to the left, thinking that I’d get back to the zone I was just in, and ended up falling through the map, forcing me to reload
@@PeanutButter-wb5mb i thought thay fixed gueess i was wrong
Oh me too. It was weird.
I know that in the Legend of Spyro trilogy Cynder used to be black but in Dawn of the Dragon and in Skylanders Spyro’s Adventure she’s much more purple just like Spyro which explains why Cynder is the female equivalent of Spyro
I find it ironic that you found Golden Capital the most original since I've heard that it was a scrapped zone idea from the first Sonic game.
Also, I'm really appreciating the scenes during the endslates.
The level itself wasn't a scrapped idea from the first game, just those loops with the sun design on it
Chariii5, you’ll know when your dream is complete. I’m looking forward to reviewing your completed game in the future.
Superstars developers making the fang bossfight: yeah just make everything instakill no loic needed
At 3:29 You can also do the same thing but with, Tails. for some old reason they still have the top of his tails while flying count as hiting, Robotnik (or Classic Dr. Eggman.)
Would love to see you do more stuff, always coming back to your cintent becayse I think it's great. If you want to diversify go ahead and do it, we'll support you on this
me after beating the main story:wait! there's a secret final boss? 💀
*Good Lord, I love these videos. Awesome as usual man* 😊
I slept in late and missed the premiere, but good video, Charriii!
0:25 Yes they have. Archie continuity (well non canon still acts as supporting evidence)
Alrighty everyone, say it with me. "Wow, a new Sonic game that isn't *terrible*, it has good ideas - just executed a bit poorly." I think this is like the 5th in a row lol
The endings of these videos are starting to get really ✨meta✨. I hope that introspection is going well for you
I don't know what was charis reaction when trip was unmasked before the super form but I felt that i made the same noise as well.
I'd like to point out that when I played this game, it tells you to press the bumpers to deactivate the Chaos powers but it does not work, you can't deactivate once you use them.
5:41 he started learning it after sonic generations, on the final cutscene before the credits, classic sonic tries to perform a homing attack, but fails.
0:31 can’t wait for the “classic sonic rewritten”!
9:05
Actually, it does show that Knuckles heads back to Angel Island to go back to guarding the master emerald if you beat the final boss with knuckles.
18:00 At least Sega is okay with the Internet Archive (like the Internet Arcade section and the Books archives), unlike _some_ video game publishers out there... coughnintendocough
1:52 Lovin' that Sonic Shorts refrence
3:12 He can’t feel the sunshine ☹
The Omnidroid looking Eggman boss really was a surprise, I certainly didn't expect a boss like that, but not as much as the Tails Doll- I was gonna freak out myself like the edit that was put in when the thing appeared on scream. But the Edit really made me laugh and less fearful, I really appreciated that lol.
Then there was Trip turning into a mcfreaking Dragon as their super form, like holy cow I did not see that coming, that was nuts man.
In regards to your question on what Level I liked in this game, I think it'd have to be Pinball carnival, the music is really funky and fun, especially when going into Act 2 where it's got Eggman's theme going on in it's design. The First act gave me something of a Studiopolis Vibe, which I really liked in Sonic Mania. The visuals were just stunning too in Pinball, same goes for Lagoon City, very pretty and awesome music!
This was a great video, I got a good chuckle and laugh here and there on some of the jokes made here, your thumbnail art is really great too by the way! I look forward to your next video! Stay Safe and Stay awesome my guy. ^^
3:41 - On closer inspection, it kinda looks like the electric balls are either hitting the perfectly dry railings or passing into the foreground. I think this thing is just a really bad aim.
The Power of Vision: We interrupt Sonic Superstars to bring you the Vanny Mask from Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach's Ruin DLC
I like it how in the opening cutscene, the chaos emeralds shining noise was the tera orb activation noise
oh that rant about the end appearing was so cathartic. exactly what i was thinking
I really liked Trip, but yeah. Sega, you're telling me she can use the emeralds to turn into a full on dragon, but someone like Amy or Knuckles can't get a gold color or upturned quills/dreads. Oh, but I'm sorry, you're not Super any more, you just get super powers... yeah...
And yeah, Trip's playthrough was insane. Like by the end, I was questioning who on the team was emotionally or physically damaged by a cute dragon girl. I started thinking they just legitimately hated Trip.
Overall I actually really liked the game, and had approximately 1 glitch. But, the issues of not knowing what to do in some areas is definitely true. The final Fang fight also took me an embarrassingly long time. I eventually learned a pattern to the webs, and the lasers, but I was so hyper cautious at that point, a single attempt at the fight took me maybe 20 minutes. There was no proper build of difficulty imo, just an immediate middle finger.