I have an 18. If you have the rattle at or after 25000km they recommend you replace the OEM tensioner with a different longer tensioner - quick job and relatively cheap. It quietened down my rattle for another 25000km. Now approaching 60000km it is ratting again and probably need to install one of those manual jobies
I watch this guys videos often, but when I looked up timing chain tensioner I was stoked to see this video came up because it explains in a way that even gxsr riders would understand
I will be the first to say I’m not a bike mechanic, but I am a auto mechanic, and in my field we also use hydraulic timing chain tensioners, and they can lose there prime if they set for a couple weeks, but if u hear a rattle every single day that goes away a few seconds after startup, usually the one way valve in the tensioner is worn out and bleeding off the pressure, it should hold pressure for at least a couple days, if it’s losing it’s prime over night, replace timing chain tensioner
Can confirm. My '80 XS650 has a manually adjustable tensioner and it never rattles, but my wife's 2022 Ninja 400 (my WIFE's, don't judge me) tends to rattle when cold. It only has 1,300 miles or so, and it's done it since 0 if memory serves.
Ok, see, THIS is the kind of content that I value. I don't have a GSX R, but I have a GSX S GT, with the latest iteration on the K5 and was really concerned about that noise at start. 👍👍👍
@@H.D.B.23 to save you the trouble and money, I already did that. It's confirmed that while annoying, it's not broken. It's simply a character of the motor, nothing to worry about. The time to worry is if it was a constant noise above idle and through the rpm range. 👍
Yeah, ive got hydrolic(springloaded) tensioner and i have a CNC manual tensioner. And the day i installed the manual one (i guess i didnt tighten too much) my bike made a horrible sound and i removed it as quickly as possible because that scared the 💩out of me. So i went back to the factory tensioner.
My favorite GIXXER squid mod is to install a manual cam chain tensioner and turn it in as far as you can by hand. It makes your GIXXER sound like it has a supercharger!
Typically with the fz07 and fz09, even if you change the cct it can be common to still hear a slight tick for a few seconds after you turn the bike on after it’s sat awhile, it takes a good second for oil to coat everything back in the motor like clutch plates etc. so in the starting there may always be some slight chatter.
Common for exhaust rattle/buzzing to also sound like a loose cam chain. The exhaust servo valve in my CBR rattles around now that I did a servo delete, sounds very similar to CCT noise.
The cam chain tensioner does not keep cam gears from skipping. That would imply that the cams provide the power. The tensioner keeps the cam chain tight so that they don't skip on the crank shaft sprocket.
I thought I saw an auto spring adjusted with a lock . And at the rattle was like you said oil don't get where it's need till it's warm Guides expand chains expand. Hell I don't know.i don't work on bikes any more
Unless your pretty mechanically inclined i would recomend messing with engine chains. Cheap part doesnt equal problem free. Also although everyone says dont give a cold vehicle throttle, giving it throttle does encourage oil pickup way faster then standard idle, just dont red kine it, dont hold it for more then a second or 2, and dont do it below maybe 40°f
it is to do with oil pressure building up not the oil getting or as you put it reach the tensioner its designed as such just start an leave to run 30 seconds to a couple minutes warms oil an builds pressure
Can anyone recommend waterproof motorcycle sneakers? I was eying the Alpinestars J-6 at first, but their reviews are mixed and I would prefer shoes with a side zipper and reinforced toe.
Just curious cause I know some vehicles when you turn the key over to on but not start that some pumps turn on like fuel pumps and others for things like this, but those are cars does this work on things like bikes?
Never get a manual cam chain tensioner, they cause more problems than they fix. 99% of people don't know how to adjust them. Just get a new oem and don't worry about it.
Dude I just had this problem and still do on my dirtbike hoping you would post this but idk why it seems to be my fly wheel ratting and my sprocket shakes a lot at high rpm’s
Hello, I have a quick question but it's not about your video I am sorry I couldn't find the answer on the internet so I ask to you. I bought a used Rs660 and the person before me put in white fuel. I think it's a special gasoline for the circuit. Do you think I can mix this fuel and regular gasoline when I have to go fill up?
MT10 is best motorcycle, period. I have an '80 XS650, '94 FZR600, and my next Yamaha is either going to be an XSR9 or an MT10. MT10 has that sweet, sweet crossplane I4 so that's obviously the priority 😁
Better to inspect your timing chain slack.. it can be dangerous if it really already have plenty of slack.. that's how my s1krr got a timing jump by two teeth.. luckily only two teeth and i realized the difference or it can be catastrophic failure.
Solid tensioners are not a good idea. He is only partially correct. The rattle is a result of the tensioner taking up excessive chain wear. The chains stretch due to insufficient oil changes or cheap, crappy oils. Oil is necessary to keep chain cool, to help prevent stretching
Once again, wrong. The cam chain wraps about sprockets, not gears. Just the same as the final drive. P.S. If your geekser rattles, that's normal. They are junk.
@@libingmeme8474 i mean I know they have timing belt tensioners inside of the motor, but, I've never seen an adjustment thats easy to take slack of a timing chain such as the one in the video. And he was saying most motorcycles have this adjustment. I've never seen an adjustment like this on a car, as many as I have worked on.
@@Hoov3r107 every car comes with a timing belt tensioner. You can buy manual ones for bikes as aftermarket parts but they don't come stock because they require more fiddling than just swapping it for an OEM one when it goes bad. Cars don't come stock with manual timing tensioners because the tensioners in cars last way longer and using manual ones in a car would be too much of a hassle.
Omg. This is what I needed to hear. Purchased my ‘14 S1000r and each time I fire her up from a cold start I hear exactly as what you are describing.
Plastic CCT :/
Hahahaha had the same fear with my S1000r. But I guess its just the way it sounds 😂
I have an 18. If you have the rattle at or after 25000km they recommend you replace the OEM tensioner with a different longer tensioner - quick job and relatively cheap. It quietened down my rattle for another 25000km. Now approaching 60000km it is ratting again and probably need to install one of those manual jobies
@@brianglendenning1632 Oh nice thanks man, I have an 2020 model but the "old" one and with 28.000km. I will have a look at it 👍👍
@@brianglendenning1632just wear ear plugs and ignore it. It’s fine.
I watch this guys videos often, but when I looked up timing chain tensioner I was stoked to see this video came up because it explains in a way that even gxsr riders would understand
the gixxer jokes are getting stronger😂
Gsxr*
I swear I haven't found another UA-camr who gives such in depth information on anything. Thank you for what you do!
Fortnine, Revzilla.
Got my cbr with the cam chain rattle, replaced the cct in a couple hours and smooth as hell now, such a simple design and simple fix
I will be the first to say I’m not a bike mechanic, but I am a auto mechanic, and in my field we also use hydraulic timing chain tensioners, and they can lose there prime if they set for a couple weeks, but if u hear a rattle every single day that goes away a few seconds after startup, usually the one way valve in the tensioner is worn out and bleeding off the pressure, it should hold pressure for at least a couple days, if it’s losing it’s prime over night, replace timing chain tensioner
My 2023 GSX S1000 is like it. A little bit of noise for a few sec than silk smooth . Now at 15,000 KM and the exact same thing.
I have the 2022 same After 13 k km
You just saved me from so much paranoia I’ve been waiting for my bike to explode 😂😂
bruh i was a lil late on chain maintenence and i heard that noise coming from there. Almost lost my mind lol. Keep up the maintenance brehs
Yes bro i heard rattling noise in cold start in my ninja 1000 but bikes warms up rattling noise will disappear . Thankyou for explaining bro ❤❤❤👍
Can confirm. My '80 XS650 has a manually adjustable tensioner and it never rattles, but my wife's 2022 Ninja 400 (my WIFE's, don't judge me) tends to rattle when cold. It only has 1,300 miles or so, and it's done it since 0 if memory serves.
VFR800’s gear driven cams FTW
For real tho. 97 VFR 750
Ok, see, THIS is the kind of content that I value. I don't have a GSX R, but I have a GSX S GT, with the latest iteration on the K5 and was really concerned about that noise at start. 👍👍👍
Yeah my 2023 gsx s1000 is rattling it’s freaking annoying. Bringing mines in to the dealer hopefully this Friday.
@@H.D.B.23 to save you the trouble and money, I already did that. It's confirmed that while annoying, it's not broken. It's simply a character of the motor, nothing to worry about. The time to worry is if it was a constant noise above idle and through the rpm range. 👍
So, do you have like 8 bikes or do you have 1 and keep trading it for another one every 5 hours?
never seen him show 2 at once, but I have seen him wash the inside of his exhaust pipe 😂
He likes paying the state for the privilege of getting a new bike every month.
Just bought a GSXS750, subscribed to hear more GSXR jokes lol.
Yeah, ive got hydrolic(springloaded) tensioner and i have a CNC manual tensioner. And the day i installed the manual one (i guess i didnt tighten too much) my bike made a horrible sound and i removed it as quickly as possible because that scared the 💩out of me. So i went back to the factory tensioner.
My favorite GIXXER squid mod is to install a manual cam chain tensioner and turn it in as far as you can by hand. It makes your GIXXER sound like it has a supercharger!
That Stryker vest was epic
This just showed up in my shorts while doom scrolling. Cool vid
Typically with the fz07 and fz09, even if you change the cct it can be common to still hear a slight tick for a few seconds after you turn the bike on after it’s sat awhile, it takes a good second for oil to coat everything back in the motor like clutch plates etc. so in the starting there may always be some slight chatter.
*Cries in F4i* I have a subscription for these things
Common for exhaust rattle/buzzing to also sound like a loose cam chain. The exhaust servo valve in my CBR rattles around now that I did a servo delete, sounds very similar to CCT noise.
The cam chain tensioner does not keep cam gears from skipping. That would imply that the cams provide the power. The tensioner keeps the cam chain tight so that they don't skip on the crank shaft sprocket.
Most automatic adjusters have a ratchet system so that it can't slacken off. If you hear a rattle you shouldn't just assume its that.
Dude I've been wondering about that damn rattle on my zh2 at startup forever lol
Okay the gsxr guy character got me 😂
Excellent information
If you get manual adjuster, check it every 20 or so miles
Bro I always thought that bikes were just kind of shitty and that was part of it. I guess it is. Thank you!
👌👌👌🔥🔥👌👌👌
I thought I saw an auto spring adjusted with a lock . And at the rattle was like you said oil don't get where it's need till it's warm
Guides expand chains expand. Hell I don't know.i don't work on bikes any more
I have an adjustable one it makes it much easier to adjust before I ride if needed
Gixxer guy is really cool.
Unless your pretty mechanically inclined i would recomend messing with engine chains. Cheap part doesnt equal problem free. Also although everyone says dont give a cold vehicle throttle, giving it throttle does encourage oil pickup way faster then standard idle, just dont red kine it, dont hold it for more then a second or 2, and dont do it below maybe 40°f
Actually learnt something from you. Now out to my gixer. 😂
Love the Gixxer banter being a Gixxer rider myself
Nice infomercial
Awesome work 😎🍻
Choice my boy😊❤😊
it is to do with oil pressure building up not the oil getting or as you put it reach the tensioner its designed as such just start an leave to run 30 seconds to a couple minutes warms oil an builds pressure
CCT was a problem on my CBR but not on my.... GIXXER!
Righttt😂
Crying in F4i tears 😢
Need one of those icon tank tops rn
Can anyone recommend waterproof motorcycle sneakers? I was eying the Alpinestars J-6 at first, but their reviews are mixed and I would prefer shoes with a side zipper and reinforced toe.
On the cp2 the chain sound is very noticeable and apparently 100% normal...
My new ninja 650 is making that sound but all the time not just in the beginning so maybe just get a new one all together?
Hahahaha never ending gixxer joke . keep it up dude
Just curious cause I know some vehicles when you turn the key over to on but not start that some pumps turn on like fuel pumps and others for things like this, but those are cars does this work on things like bikes?
Will the manual ajuster works?
This sound comes from my r7
Me too! Had no idea
@@mikew.4165 glad to see someone relates!!
Never get a manual cam chain tensioner, they cause more problems than they fix. 99% of people don't know how to adjust them. Just get a new oem and don't worry about it.
So manual Is much better than hydraulic ?
Here for the gsxr hate!
GIXXER start?? 🤣🤣
Dude I just had this problem and still do on my dirtbike hoping you would post this but idk why it seems to be my fly wheel ratting and my sprocket shakes a lot at high rpm’s
Manual is the best🔥
This must be the sound on my RS660 but it seemed to stop after I switched to ESSO 93
My fz1 does it when warm ??
What bike is this
What about a ducati that sounds like a diesel? Is there a fix for that? Redline is like 9k costs like 20k
Is it bad to wear a Icon vest?
Yooooo the best Gixxer jokes hands down an I love the cosplay
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What is your issue with gsxr community
Hello, I have a quick question but it's not about your video I am sorry I couldn't find the answer on the internet so I ask to you.
I bought a used Rs660 and the person before me put in white fuel. I think it's a special gasoline for the circuit. Do you think I can mix this fuel and regular gasoline when I have to go fill up?
Keep the Gixxer jokes coming.
I know there are Aprilia jokes, but most people can't afford those.😜
Bro I had a dream I ran into you at sams
My Yamaha MT 10 sounds broken lol but it's normal Yamaha tick. Don't sweat 💦
MT10 is best motorcycle, period.
I have an '80 XS650, '94 FZR600, and my next Yamaha is either going to be an XSR9 or an MT10. MT10 has that sweet, sweet crossplane I4 so that's obviously the priority 😁
So its normal on my mt07?
On my 2014 636, I didn't have the rattle on startup, but I get the rattle starting at 6k and stop at 7k. Don't know why yet.
Better to inspect your timing chain slack.. it can be dangerous if it really already have plenty of slack.. that's how my s1krr got a timing jump by two teeth.. luckily only two teeth and i realized the difference or it can be catastrophic failure.
Yoooo that's a nice icon vest where can I get one? XD
Just use manual tensioner. Mas maganda hehe
On my Husqvarna Vitpilen 701 I never hear it when I cold start but I always hear it after I start after the engine's already warm. Is this normal?
If you’ve lost oil pressure/oil in the tensioner between starting & stopping it, then yes.
bro has opps 😂
Mine rattles when shifting gears at times , sounds like chain is jumping off gear & rattles a bit
Solid tensioners are not a good idea.
He is only partially correct. The rattle is a result of the tensioner taking up excessive chain wear.
The chains stretch due to insufficient oil changes or cheap, crappy oils. Oil is necessary to keep chain cool, to help prevent stretching
What if the sliders are finished and you put a manual ct. 😮😮😮
Gixxer should start paying u bro😂🤣
And if the noise is louder when the bike is warm after 2 hours of riding? 😬
Honda owners will never understand it cause they just drive and it works bc they did a service back in 98‘
Love the gsxr jokes. But don’t underestand why hated on so much? Like i got a gsxr750 as my second bike. Things awesome yet you hate? Confused
New character unlocked?
Sir pano po mag karoon ng proper slack ng kadena?
My bike rattles when I shut it off…why would that happen I wonder?
Yamaha is known for cheapy auto tensioners. Replaced my fz09 with a manual one. Much mo betta.
First of all, check the engine oil level.
bro ano ginawa sayo ng gixxer😂
Whos that paid actor😊😂😂
Bro eats 3 Gixxer riders in breakfast
if it's hydraulic why is it spring loaded
why don't you hear the rattling when it's new
Ironic
Every Gixxer owner knows that it's the cam chain tensioner
Because these things are notorious for going bad on the GSX-R
Once again, wrong. The cam chain wraps about sprockets, not gears. Just the same as the final drive. P.S. If your geekser rattles, that's normal. They are junk.
But you do your need valve clearance checked
Its so loud on my rs660 when I start it up.
U just saved me 150 buks 😅
damn that h0b0gixxer hair 😅
after 20k kms I hear tappet noise so I just fix it with filler gauze
Hey Adobo,
I ride a 99 996, it clicks all the time, and everyone tells me only one headlight is on??😂
pretty much every ducati clicks all the time. And while I'm not sure with the 996 specifically, tons of bikes only run 1 light normally.
@@libingmeme8474
I was being sarcastic!! But your absolutely correct!!
So that how it worrk
i feel like this kind of technology should be used in cars... but that makes too much since.
it is used in cars.
@@libingmeme8474 i mean I know they have timing belt tensioners inside of the motor, but, I've never seen an adjustment thats easy to take slack of a timing chain such as the one in the video. And he was saying most motorcycles have this adjustment. I've never seen an adjustment like this on a car, as many as I have worked on.
@@Hoov3r107 every car comes with a timing belt tensioner. You can buy manual ones for bikes as aftermarket parts but they don't come stock because they require more fiddling than just swapping it for an OEM one when it goes bad.
Cars don't come stock with manual timing tensioners because the tensioners in cars last way longer and using manual ones in a car would be too much of a hassle.
@@libingmeme8474 that makes alot more sense to me, Thanks for clarifying on that.
Bro is having personal issue with Gixxer.