“Hey man, do you think this is a good deal?” *proceeds to never reach back out* *makes fun of the guy for reaching out to him on stream* *goes and talks to the company about the guys deal* *deal falls through* Seems pretty sus
Extremely sus. I think they buried the lede with this one. This, alongside all the rumors of SA and cover-ups, is the part of this whole debacle that is the most concerning and could potentially open Atsu up for legal trouble, at least civilly for damages.
@@rory1er only through mihoyo headquarters, which was okay. Maybe he only informed them about the confidentiality of the contract which wasn't followed by brax, in turn making the mihoyo contractors think that brax is untrustworthy since he could easily disclose information that was supposed to be kept secret, and cut off all negotiations with him since he didn't follow the most basic and important rule.
I love it when Asmongold who doesn't play Genshin Impact at all is actually farming views about Genshin Impact content creators. lol. Absolute W and genius on Asmon's part.
@Medicis1 I've played the game. It was very good, but I don't care for anime cutesy stuff and the microtransactions that are designed to take so much and give little. You don't need Genshin in your life.
@@burrleejohnson there was a video about the deleted tweet from Mtashed's and Tectone's video (sorry for promoting). Atsu called Brax an "obsessive stalker" and saying Brax wants to be his friend so bad like he wants to say Brax is this type of person. Btw he didnt provide any screenshots or proof. All of it are just his words.
It's like I'm watching a kindergarden teacher trying to figure out why the kids don't want to play with each other, but instead it's grown ass men in their 20s and 30s.
Don't know anyone involved: Check Don't play any of the games mentioned: Check Don't understand a single thing they're saying: Check Don't really care and will forget by tomorrow morning: Check Yup, this one's made for me boys
What I got from this: Everyone's fanbase is a bunch of fanatics Tectone is a big crazy hot-head Envy is a little crybaby Mtash is a punching bag of Gatcha community Atsu is not trustworthy Asmon has become a budged Judge Judy Asmon´s viewers enjoy the best drama show on Twitch with popcorn right now
Idk about the atsu “untrustworthy” characteristic. He definitely have higher standards when it comes to personal matters. Which can be interpreted as untrustworthy🤷♂️
@@rickyricardo2006 Maybe and maybe I can be completely wrong about everything since I am not ivested in this drama or most of those creators and this was just my first and second impression :)
this is exactly what I heard. Atsu for reals needs to mind his own business and he totally slipped up that there is a blacklist. Envy needs to get off the internet if its damaging his mental health. Tect did have a point about the whole the platform hates each other and shouldn't talk to each other. Because Asmon did have a a ton of points that when it comes down to it that the hard evidence shows theyre hyper sensitive and the level of narc levels growing is crazy.. It always starts with someone in chats. At the end of the day they look pretty damn foolish.
Im just a guy who doesn’t play Genshin watching another guy who also doesn’t play Genshin LARP as an internet detective and do a deep dive in to some random Genshin CC drama that will have no affect on anyone that I’ve ever heard of, nor give a shit about.. 3hrs, lets go
3:11:47 exactly this, there's a reason, AS MUCH AS THEY'RE CRINGE, corporate statements exist. To be professional is to be not personal, and such a naivety with the streaming industry is people coming into it with a casual mindset because it's fun and falling on their own face because they just don't have the experience to be a public speaker. Accepting criticism with grace, having thick skin against heckling, and not treating associates in the space like you're still in the playground, are all skills that must be learned and honed. Also, streamers thinking that putting their personal lives out for the world to see, and capitalising on the parasocial behaviour of their audience is a huge component of this. Television broadcasters understand this far better, which is why news presenters and others are so formal it's almost like they're soulless. Streaming is still a hilariously young industry, and a lot of the new personalities still haven't learned this about becoming internet celebrities. You see the difference here, when Asmon is saying Envi needs to hang up his coat because he's too sensitive. Asmon understands all of this, because he's been doing this job for a decade or more. You cannot become a public figure without good and bad press, and if you can't handle the bad press you should probably reconsider your ambitions.
The best drama is strange enough that it captivates you and large enough to have plot twists, but also isolated enough that it has no impact whatsoever on you. I watch neither creators nor genshin impact but the drama is so large this is like a movie for free.
@@imaforceanature7297 Exactly, its just like watching some sort of drama TV show, its so inconsequential to your life and so not actually serious if we compare it to some bad politics crap. that you can immerse yourself into it for entertainment without ACTUALLY giving a crap about it
I could be wrong. Atsu said he would not bring up others not involved or speak on their behalf, but was the first to bring up the Enviosity situation and speak on his behalf.
As a total outsider, all I can hear is "Bingbong gatekept Squeeky's trauma dumping during Hoyocon, so Fluffer and Doodlebug are narcissists and abusers."
Ikr. Wth. Mihoyo not respond or change a bit after chinese community boycott. Then, hoyoverse cc make civil wars to expose themself. Reminds me with among us game. 🤣🤣 "Who is the impostor?" It's like that. So funny.
they 😂 hit someones personal life is shit . atsudara and his akatsuki gang started it. imagine tectone did not post an essay about them. then fobLoser posted first followed by Atsudara .. then Devildish Next posting also essay as bad as others then this atsudara post a very long essay its called maalala mo kaya . in my country if its very long sentence 😂 a total drama but in a fking wrong way and annoying . iwatch brax alot his a good person his just like volkin his very nice a very neutral person and drama's isn't his forte atsu must done something really bad personal . brax acted .. its really a bad one if this guy as nice as volkin that don't give time of drama's forced to do something.
Really liking Asmon's approach to this, asking for evidence, admitting that he's obviously biased, not making conclusion without solid proof and asking how he can improve at the end.
Atsu: *to teccy* You know Envy is a crybaby dont be mean. Teccy: Shows proof of other cc bullying him, so just because I can handle it its okay Asmond: We headed into a massive tangent Atsu: yeah we did, dont know why What a snake, he was the one who opened it. And Tectone just gave clips of the hypocrisy.
"Just because I can handle it its okay." I mean... yes? You adjust your force according to the strength of the target, I thought that's common sense. Same reason why you wouldn't punch a baby the same way you punch a grown man, if someone is emotionally weaker you treat them more gently.
Around 1:59:00 they talk about Brax talking about a deal with Hoyoverse with Atsu asking for advice and Atsu goes and discusses with Hoyoverse this deal. While Asmon is right there is no direct evidence the well was poisoned by Atsu regarding the deal, it seems more that just sus since the mere act of reaching out would have put hoyo on the back foot and hesitant about the deal since Atsu didn’t like Brax. I think that is the most severe claim and while Asmon is right about there not being enough evidence, it’s still extremely inappropriate to discuss someone else’s business deal with the company unless explicitly asked to. It’s sus enough even if Atsu said nothing the company would be hesitant to work with Brax if they even remotely read into it. That is in my opinion the biggest issue, not necessarily how Atsu talked with the company, but that he brought it up at all without consent
i think there was also something everyone passed right over in the early part of this. Brax asked Atsu for advice about pricing an exclusivity deal and Brax just dismissed the fact that the deal didn't go through. he tipped his hand to this guy that he was getting an offer and then after getting brushed off he didn't close the deal. it makes me wonder if he had just asked anyone else in the world with no conflict of interest if he would have been able to close. if Atsu is even the slightest bit petty and we have some amount of evidence of that, it's very possible that he got jealous/competitive and moved to sink that deal. even without any proof i feel it's a cautionary tale to play your cards very close to your chest.
i also found that really weird, like i know brax went to atsu first about the contract, but atsu sounded jealous that he wasnt apart of the contract and thats why he asked hoyo staff, atsu seems to have a big ego
It doesn't matter. In the eyes of the judge, if you don't have evidence, everything forming around what you say is made up. For something huge like this accusation, you need evidence.
Everyone working in social media has a big ego, their entire life/brand is built around this account. Doesnt justify atsu's actions but its just a part of the business.
honestly?This just looks like a bunch of speculation. Sure, it is more than sus, but authorities need phisical/digital proof, otherwise how is our world going to deal with possible murdere@#$ rap@#$% and many others with just "i think", or "it looks like".
I think Envi forgets that early on people were excited to watch people pull because most people don't want to whale and the gambling was super contagious. People would leapfrog streams as soon as a streamer started pulling on a banner, YT videos of pulls always have high views. If you can't pull a shiny rock, people will watch others do it instead. And a lot of the player base are young or obsessed and chatters would absolutely pressure streamers to spend their fates. None of this means Tectone was the reason, people are just human.
Yea fr, like I honestly don't even see how any of that is even relevant to Techtone at all. In fact most of this stuff has more to do with the streamer themselves than it does Techtone. If they think Tech is a bully or toxic, then they weren't around for the god awful rein of Maximilianmus, whom is a literal sociopath.
I thought this exact same thing back when Atsu said, "a lot of players have this out of touch misconception that all content creators are rich." Then proceeds to say the most out of touch thing I've ever heard a genshit cc say, "I'm not rich you guys, I've only spent $20,000 on the game." Like that shit is normal, everyone spends $20k on gachas Srsly. That's not my bag baby, I'm not rich
Brax sharing an idea to atsu and atsu discussing it hoyo without brax is severely overlooked here. Maybe the proposal didn’t went through but if it did that would be literally stealing. Especially atsu ignoring brax even after finding the proposal intriguing is a red flag
What really happened, or at least what's implied by atsu (keep in mind, hoyoverse is a company, not a person, and atsu's friend is not the CEO) is brax asked about the deal, atsu consulted his friend/line in hoyo, rhey were mot involved in said deal, and communicated this to atsu.
@@LambatAwal yeah i saw the clip myself, tectone was kinda of a dick with his wife but is nothing beyond a discussion between 2 people that are married. calling this "abuse" is wild, couples discuss all the time is a extremely commun thing, idk how tf people pretend that couples don't fight it's crazy
I just wanted to let you guys know that I baked some amazing apple hand pies while listening to these high schoolers vent about problems 3 years in the making , god damn, their delicious
I was cleaning my room during this entire thing, I stopped a few times to think about some things and look at the evidence, this is a very entertaining anime arc.
47:10 ngl i’m genuinely curious what Brax sent in the DMs that made Asmon say ‘ohhh’ and agreed to Brax immediately without questions regarding the topic of being able to ‘influence’
@@Evizu Could be or could be not. Eitherway even Mtashed who watched this one said he has a hunch what it was and agrees with Brax and Asmon, but also do not want to leak it.
@@LeAlpacaPlays Just that comment "they don't talk about it." when referring to Atsu's contact... Idk... Makes me think it's someone in the public eye, or someone that's known. I have a suspicion it's Atsu's partner, but who knows... Would also make sense with all the special treatment he's getting from hoyo.
If you got to bring up someone's past marriage as a "gotchya", you have already lost. The fact Atsu agrees it was a low blow in this video, then 180s on twitter just recently says a lot. Atsu tweeted to stop dogpiling on his own wife after he and Brax talked, Tectone responds "Tell that to Envi", and now Atsu is trying to justify Envi's actions were right. So now he is trying to spin the narrative that Tectone sent people after his wife. Got to say, looks manipulative 🐍
27:57| "I've got a two and a half hour video summarizing all of this" ~ Tectone "Oh my god, two and a half hours? Holy shit" ~ Asmon "Hold my beer" *3+ hour video* ~ Also Asmon
Honestly, I came here because everyone was like “bro it’s started with a meme” and I do not even understand how the hell it is connected to the original tweet
@UnofficialAstronaut-ul7zh so basically the tweet is count as a meme because it doesn't really hurt anyone who is mentioned in it (Tectone and the second guy), it just points out how different community reacts to genshin 4.4 update. This means, that anyone could be in this tweet and the meaning will remain the same, but twitter took it like a personal insult to Tectone and the second guy and started to shit on these guys
3 hours and Asmongold jumped into the drama towards the end. Mr Pokke was streaming for 12+ hours straight watching the drama unfold 💀Drama of the decade right here
I remember that one time in a Steak and Eggs Podcast episode, Asmon said that he would like to go through every Genshin drama that Tectone was part in. They actually almost did it now xD
I stopped caring at 40 mins. There was a lot of drama and very little hard evidence. There's a lot of circumstantial ones but not enough to really point out what happened.
Asmon digging into the truth and facts, past all the 'he said, she said' is one of my favorite things. Rumors are so bad and him taking time to make sure he has all the facts is huge and I just wish more people were like that.
The fact that this is being noted so much shows how illogically emotional and uneducated a lot of people choose to be though. This level of verification should be a given.
@@dblackout1107 Oh I agree. People fall too easily into the mob mentality of things and it only gets worse with each generation. Most people don't bat an eye when it comes to this stuff until they're the ones in the hot seat. I truly do wish it was more commonplace to ask questions and do research. Maybe some day.
i mean this a little bit different case here, this is why testimony is a form of evidence anyone involved in the drama cant just pull up their convo screenshots like a walk in the park. These are interactions that built up, not like theyre recording it everytime they do that, which is why its so weird asmon is still trying to find a concrete evidence when 22 of them actually spoke up against atsu, i mean its fine to have the fairness but im afraid atsu only benefits from this, since hes been given a huge leeway to stir up stuff. On a sidenote, Asmon would have perfectly cooked atsu and this video would have been much shorter if he just read atsu's tweet against brax.
Finally almost to the end of this video. Just wanna say that I'm grateful to Asmongold for the way he handled this situation. He had zero reason to get involved but he took so many hours of his valuable time to mediate a discord for some people that he has never met and never heard about. Respect to you and for everyone involved for talking things out and I do hope that you all get along in the near future. This community look up to all of you and hope that you all can continue to be the pillars that we needs to make the community better.
My question is why does Atsu call Brax a disgusting person for bringing up the SA at the party when he didn't. If you read both of their twitters, Brax states he heard from a friend that a CC caused a lot of trouble for Atsu and others at the party. All of it being hearsay. It's not until Atsu not only confirms there was an incident but acknowledges the fact that it was in fact SA. So why attack Brax and call him sick when he gave no details. Atsu did and also did nothing but cover it up and try to keep hush hush until he outed himself ?
He says "there has been rumours but nothing has been proven" What do you mean it's proven its all heresy don't go preaching something that does not have proof
@@siliconhawk I'm not preaching. Atsu took down his Twitter post but it was saved by others and tectone even read it on his own UA-cam post around 1 hour and 46 minutes into the video. Atsu is the one who confirms SA. So how is it a rumor if someone who was there is the one to confirm it?
@@gothpanda13666 oh then I have not seen that part of "evidence" but if it did happen then that's pretty bad. But it's not anyone else's but the victims call to make. Not yours not mine. What if you escalate this matter to a level where the victim is adversely affected then what Vigilante justice is unfortunate not how the world works. It's only cool when Batman does it not people terminally on the internet.
@@siliconhawk I get what you are saying there. And I agree it is up to the victim ultimately. The thing that bothers me about it is that Brax never mentioned what the trouble was and even says it was just hearsay. It's not confirmed until Atsu calls him disgusting and some other names while then confirming that it was SA.. so my point is Atsu tries to manipulate the situation as if Brax let out a huge secret when it was in fact himself.
@@gothpanda13666 oh I see what you mean. Yeah that makes total sense to me. Your OG comment kinda got misunderstood or maybe your wording was not perfect. Whatever I get what the problem here is. Glad you cleared the motive of your comment. Not a lot of people do that appreciate it
If the community manager is aware that someone dislikes another person, he will refrain from inviting one or both to avoid issues. Since the Atsu is a friend of the manager, everyone he does not accept is automatically excluded, even without explicit communication. The main goal is to prevent drama at the event. The issue is not with the Atsu itself but with the fact that he is friends with the manager, and through their friendship, the manager knows whom to avoid inviting.
Because lets be real. Do we realllllly believe that at least 1 offhand comment in passing was never made whilst at an event in earshot of someone from Hoyo. Considering Atsu tried to go out of his way to tell even Tectone not to trust him???
but these "events" that brax talks about are social gatherings (dinners, parties) and one specific con at the philippines (conquest). brax still get a lot of deals from hoyoverse for professional business outside of that. he gets sponsored streams, he even hosted an official LIVE EVENT for Honkai Impact 3rd, he often gets early access to the soon-to-be-released genshin characters in order to test them and make his guides. I don't think atsu managed to blacklist brax from hoyoverse if brax is still getting this type of attention from the company.
It's just crazy to me how the main point of the Genshin boycott was to speak out against the bullshit going on in the dev team. But now that initial effort has fucking backfired on the community itself. This all clearly solidifies the point that nobody can count on the Genshin community to do anything meaningful
Where is Zyox in all of this? He's like the freaking unknown god, shows up at the beginning and starts all of this drama, then you never heard from him ever again.
I have trouble grasping Genshin drama even as a Genshin player. It's a single player game, who the fuck cares lol. I genuinely didn't even know there was a bunch of content creators for it.
@@MuhammadKharismawanthe drama is because creators complained that Genshin players are treated like shit while star rail players continuously eat like kings. People said they wanted to boycott but they never did. Made some people really frustrated. They started calling out creators and then this whole thing blew up. Don't you guys care to get more rewards? Star rail players got a free broken ass five star. What do we get a four-star selector and garbage amount of primo / intertwined fades?
@@natebeal18 star rail get material stuff. Genshin get new region and new banger ost every couple patches. i dont care much for stuff i can already buy with money, what i care is whether i enjoy playing the game when i play it. nothing else. Genshin give me what i perceive as valuable when i played it on PC the first time 3 years ago, when Paimon was guiding me to Venti's statue. its been the same top notch world and music delivery ever since. all for free. I'm not unsatisfied.
This is why I only watch guides or smaller channels for their leisure quest commentary videos. If you are unsatisfied about the game, you have the choice to not play and/or not giving them your money. It is as simple as that. Money talks louder than anything, literally nobody gives a damn about overly emotional reactions except toxic spots of social media. Stop acting like overly obese with health problem people who blame junk food for their problem while chowing down on triple cheese burger with a gallon of coke. Everybody can complain because it is the easiest thing to do, yet nobody wants to change because it is the hardest thing to do.
@@natebeal18 HSR get material stuff, but Genshin get new banger ost and regions to explore every couple patches, I don't care much for stuff that I can already buy myself. Instead I care more for whether I enjoy the experience of playing the game itself. Genshin have been giving me what I see as valuable the first time I played it, when paimon led me to Venti's statues all 3 years ago on PC. Great World exploration, beautiful views, wonderful music and vibes. All for free. I'm not unsatisfied. Yes, Hoyoverse is being very stingy about the rewards, I know as Im also a FGO player for 6+ years, but I enjoy playing Genshin more than any other gacha games, heck any games in mobile. I will try Wuthering and judge whether their world can make me spend less time than in Tevyat so am open for new things. Hopefully it does become successful so genshin can be more "generous" tho. Edit: it shows 5 comments on YT but I can only see 4, can't seem to find my earlier comment before this so the repost, also some more elaboration.
Rule number 1 of the internet when your in an arguement. NEVER TAKE PEOPLE'S PERSONNAL MATTERS INTO THE ARGUEMENT. Envy broke that rule... FRICKEN TWICE?!?
It was facts though. Rule number 0 in the internet, you don’t show your shit side in the internet if you don’t want other people use it against you. Problem is, Tectone is sometime “positive” fun and crazy but he defines had thousand of shits and he is proud of his shit, if he feels sensitive about someone bringing out something that is true. Then he should probably grow up. But tbh he is okaybthe way he is, he is fun this way.
The one thing i love about Asmon, even tho he's biased toward Tectone because he's his friend, he still try to be very fair in this discussion and just wanna accept if there's a real proof
1:34:00 wait so their is a voice actor with sexual assault allegations and their still in the game? Cause Atsu said its not Tighnari's VA so there's another one???? or did I interpret that wrong
I searched it up, and i think it's Lyney's VA Daman Mills? I've seen videos where they explain allegations against him for SA to minors. He was defended by Funimation and let off free...
@@cozyjade I forget which exactly, but either Atsu or MTashed said that the person involved in this case was not Tighnari. And the reason being that at this point and time, Tighnari wasn't even in the game; so the Elliot incident hadn't even happened yet. So it would've had to have happened prior to 3.0. That's not to say whatever is happening with Lyney's VA is impossible, I have no clue what any of that is about. Just that the mystery VA in question here couldn't be Tighnari or Lyney's VA.
@@risocakeso you're saying it didn't happen no? But of course, the internet white knights ride forth in their shining armor to brutalize the evil witch! So the company must act before they're accused of being witches too!
when i thought tectone was done streaming and going to sleep he called the big boss, added 3 hours to the drama and feeded asmongold even more content. mtash clutching the whole thing while mr pokke watched the whole time, f4bmaster apologizing, getting out of the crossfire while envy straight up jumped in it ... drama of the year fr fr ... game of thrones type of shit
This was surprisingly interesting to watch, while I do (did) play Genshin I never looked at any communities or creators so had no knowledge or opinion of this stuff, but seeing Asmon be very analytical and detective like make this a surprisingly easy watch, especially it being 3 hours long.
About an hour in, I think Antagonist has an inappropriate relationship(probably just dating) with Community Manager for this Sector of Popular Game. Exiled Streamers are being denied contracts because Community Manager is dismissing them, because Antagonist is influencing Community Manager against the Exiled. Antagonist never says he why he doesn't like the Exiled. Allies of Antagonist are also steering clear of the Exiled on a professional base but not a personal one, and they refuse to say why Antagonist doesn't like the Exiled. Protagonist once had a friend that was an Exiled but was excommunicated so hard that he quit streaming, had mental break down, and is no longer friends with Protagonist. So Protagonist wants to bring awareness that Antagonist is a dick and has caused massive problems, in order to excommunicate Antagonist. The Judge is going through evidence claiming that Antagonist has influence with popular gaming company, but it seems that it might only be influence with Community Manager for this sector...
Finished watching the video. Antagonist seems to just be part of a close knit group and he promotes his inner circle, it just so happens that he has sway with Community Manager. Exiles are just complaining about favoritism, Protagonist keeps getting attacked for no reason. To simplify this, Online communities are childish and selfish. Gacha game communities seem to be a concentration of these toxic traits. No one should ever play these Gacha games.
@@Niger8876 Incredibly easy, the nature of Gacha is toxic. Its foundation is to make as much money as possible so it creates an environment of inferiority complexes to make the player spend money for more power. It becomes a never ending loop for more power to show off, and the free to play users have to spend more time just to stay in line with the lowest tier of endgame. So it becomes a spiteful job to them so they don't lose face.
TLDR: The popular girl - Atsu The jackass - Tectone The nice guy - Mtashed The me too guy - Brax All got called into the principal office while The victim - Enviosity Is crying in the corner.
Kinda surprised that Asmongold never pulled up Atsu's response to Brax to hold him accountable to the claims he was making. Would have been an easy way to see how he was changing his story and trying to manipulate the situation
Also kind of a shame that the Envy tangent missed the main point. The timing of it being put out and the way it was put together with no hard evidence and instead clips of atsu being a "good guy" and tectone as a "bad guy" is extremely suspicious especially since those clips were completely unnecessary to the points he was trying to make. Seemed to me that it was a manipulation tactic directed by atsu to get heat off him and deflect attention and hate towards tectone. Which further proves the claims being made against atsu
Yeah...I was watching it all unfold live from before Atsu posted his response and up until Asmon got involved and checked out mid-Asmon investigation. When I quit paying attention, Asmongold was making demands for impossible proof. He's literally asking for proof that you cannot get without court orders and discovery during a lawsuit. When it comes to big accusation I also want proof, but here we're dealing with whisper networks, back room dealings, and unofficial positions and he kept asking for publicly accessible proof. This is not the kind of thing you post openly on the internet because it will literally get you sued. Also weirdly Brax sent him a DM and Asmon said "I believe him" and then he...didn't stop trying to look for more proof and continuing the circus? I guess it's just the content grind, but man. I didn't like it. I can assume he was trying to give Atsu the most benefit to prove he's definitely 100% guilty with no bias, but sometimes when you do this...all you're doing is giving the guilty party all the leeway.
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbitno proofs - no case . Implying , rumors.. BS . Neither of 2 sides had any hard proofs , so that drama is complete content grind. Both sides had 10k viewers+ . win win for everyone except for viewers , they wasted their time imo
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I realllllly would love to know what Brax sent Asmon to get him to beileve him in a single discord message. I have a guess but am not gonna speculate.
I really enjoy how Asmon approached this drama. It's kinda like watching him play a game lol. The thought behind every question and the quest for receipts is actually refreshing.
Well, this implies that he has instilled fear in you, which is toxic. As much as the guy is hilarious as fk sometimes, he's a bully and a toxic dude. And we know it. And I'd still watch most of his contents, but do not condone his bullying. btw, out of all the people involved, I only watch tash, teccy, and asmonbald.
@@wuuuuuukkkkooooonnngggg4937 theres so many hoops from "instilled fear in you" -> "which is toxic." You know who would scare the sht out of me in person? Marco pierre white. Is he intrinsically toxic for being renowned and highly respected? Is the stern aura he has just toxic by default? Instilling fear = toxic is kinda a wild blanket statement to make that doesnt fit like 95% of the time lol.
im mentally exhausted listening to this convo for 30mins while half paying attention, and you guys can do this convo for 3 hours, dammn content creators do have super powers, good lord
I love how he says Goose went home, got some therapy, quit content creation and now he's doing a lot better. Like content creation is opiates, or meth, god damn.
Yeah, there's nothing weird about what you're saying, it's just right. Envi later on proves that hardcore in the social aspect, but you can also take it from the occasional break vids some youtubers put out where they highlight what their workload entails and why resting is important to them
For some people it basically fucking is lmao. Even taking away his point that he was mentioning about how certain people just don't do well in the spotlight and can't handle all the negative attention associated with any degree of popularity (The same thing is extremely applicable to the entertainment industry as a whole, not just content creators), content creation literally hits certain types of people with huge amounts of dopamine. It's why social media addiction is such a big topic in recent years. Because some people can't help but tie their self worth to their social media e-clout and just love that feeling when they see number go up. Not to mention people who when it goes down at all it fucks them up big time. And then you have what Teccy was talking about with the whole stress and whatnot of just being a public figure in general added on top and some people are just NOT a good fit to be content creators.
Bro jumps in and wants to rant about his experience with Tectone and pulls up personal life sh$% thinking it has anything to do with their beef. This dude needs help for sure and is way too sensitive.
A manipulator knows how and when to divert certain topics from himself. He saw how they were taking apart his bs, therefore he switch the convo elsewhere. Envy just happened to be the bait.
After watching the full 3 hours i can confidently say this whole situation or more an example Nepotism than it is Gatekeeping. I can also say it's fair that people could see someone getting their friends sponsorships or spots at an event as Gatekeeping. Gatekeeping and Nepotism kinda work in a similar way but they're not the same thing. I don't think Atsu was Gatekeeping, but has used his position to bring his group of friends more so into the Hoyoverse fold than they would have without his influence. If he did bad mouth whoever to Hoyo that could be Gatekeeping, but it doesn’t seem Atsu did anything with the intent to gatekeep. The guy airing things out, I cant remeber his name, seems to have read a little too much into things and connected strings that might appear one way, without proper knowledge. Then portrayed them as something they weren't. From his perspective they look that way, with more context I don't necessarily think Atsu was intentionally sabotaging him. Without the full, omniscient, context who knows, this is just the overall vibe I'm getting.
I really think this was just two personalities that dont mesh together, with Atsu being the one more close in the bigger creators he would inadvertently cause his gripes to braxophone(the person accusing him) to straight up be left in the dark not knowing wtf whenever he would contact some deals to fly or party. With him being more in power and perceivably irresponsible by public opinion, I think alot of people will find it real easy for atsu to balme and braxophone to support. Atsu track record of being in dramas doesnt help either.
But 1 thing Mtashed also mentioned (01:58:19) is that, if Brax came to Atsu just to ask about contract stuff since Brax is planning a deal with hoyoverse and he came to Atsu since he's a big content creator and just wants to know things like, "is this enough?" or "how much should I be getting paid?" etc., why did Atsu then felt the need to contact Hoyoverse about this? From the words of Mtashed and Asmongold, that is really sus. Imagine you are talking to your office colleague who has been working in the company more than you about the raise the company is offering you. You ask your colleague "Hey man, since you have been here longer than me, do you think this raise is enough for the amount of work I'm doing in the company?" and then your colleague starts talking to your boss asking about whether the raise is true or not? Obviously, the boss would be angry because why are you talking about these kinds of stuff to other people when it should've been private. Which I assume would be the cause of Brax not getting the deal. But the thing is, it was valid for Brax to ask someone more experienced about these kinds of things. He trusted Atsu and well Atsu did answer his questions. But the problem is, why did Atsu stil felt the need to confirm to someone from Hoyo that Braxophone is closing a deal? What was his motive?
@@xia0ting The motives the intentions, the decision or whatever it is, its really just in atsu’s hands now. He has been suspicious from his mannerisms but I also cant press hard evidences that possibly don’t exist yet.
Atsu called Brax as obsessive stalker in his twitter post though. In my opinion, Atsu hates Brax for nothing. Also when Atsu ask mhy staff about Brax contract is so sus. I'm getting the vibe that he hides something.
Atsu probably felt that Brax was trying to get close to him to gain more popularity, and decide to shut him out. No one likes to be used. I don't know why anyone would like that they're entitled to be friends or be included with bigger content creator groups. If they don't like you, they don't like you, how simple is that?
The most suprising thing about this drama is Asmongold being the middle man and the most fair person in all of it , when it doesnt even concern him at all.
well to be a mediator and unbiased it has to come from a position where the events doesn't concern you. if it did concern him then there would be a bias.
Damn Asmon, I was not a subscriber, I just viewed clips here and there. But you earned it man, going through all this shit. Thank you for being reasonable and expecting proof of claims.
Hate that people in the comments as well as Asmongold at the start, are completely ignorant of the damage it has done to Brax. The highschool drama part is true, and only true for Atsu's controlling behavior. Imagine that you're already someone socially awkward, then the person you look up to suddenly starts talking shit behind your back just from the very few encounter you've had with him. And the person that's talking shit about you, is also the popular kid at school that EVERYONE likes. You don't want to get on the bad side of someone like that, especially when you're an aspiring creator. It's fucking awful and I don't think the words on the document could ever describe the mental exhaustion it actually gave Brax. This was one of the things that made him go on medications for his depression. Yall brushing this off as petty drama when someone's livelihood has been spiraling down.
Brax received no damage. dude been getting sponsored and has access to pre release Mihoyo servers, just because he's not into a creator circle doesn't mean he was sent to the shadow realm.
@@ammarnk9260he’s grown through his own and kudos to him. But remember, Brax stayed away on Atsu’s lane since as he never even tweeted or done things publicly with him and his circle (pretty evident you rarely see him on GI events) and that would have stayed the same (even if it eats him). But Atsu brought him first by labeling him as a manipulator publicly so he could come ‘clean’ onto Tectone.
@@ammarnk9260 And the sponsorships are supposedly enough to make him feel unostracized? You don't get the extent of Atsu's snake behavior. When you're in the same content creation space and you go to events, you don't want people to actively avoid you. Sponsorships and deals aren't everything. He also just want to have peers he can lean back to or hang out with. But it's difficult to do that when there's a certain mean girl going around telling people that Brax is "creepy" or "obsessive", and that he only uses people for clout when literally all he did was reaching out as a fellow content creator. I don't think the video covers the part where there are numerous other smaller content creator that SPEAK UP against Atsu, in defense of Brax because everything that Atsu wrote in his initial response (which has now been deleted, lol) are easily debunked by other people who have actually hung out with Brax. If you don't get how any of that isn't slander, you're probably part of the problem.
@@Ruddline I also need to add that Brax isn't the only one that Atsu has blacklisted from events. There is another much smaller content creator that literally couldn't come to her friend's own birthday party just because Atsu would be there too and her friend said "no, you can't come sorry". ALL BECAUSE ATSU DOESN'T WANT HER THERE. Now whether the friend is areal friend to begin with, it's a different story but Atsu getting the final say in who goes and who doesn't is ridiculously messed up cause, who tf are you??
I don’t think a guy removing potential revenue streams from people, destroying peoples lives and almost getting someone to you know what themselves while also covering up a literal crime which happened in a party he hosted (I’m fairly sure) which he has gone on record to confirm it happening in attempt to guilt trip Brax which in turn exposed it actually happening, is “petty high school drama”. It’s drama for certain but absolutely not petty and shouldn’t be swept under the rug
@@bacon_208you didn't read atsu tweet did you? The SH incident and I remember this was about a victim got SH in the past but she didn't want to talk about it and want to keep it confidential so Atsu and his peers didn't want to go out of their ways to talk on her behalf, the offender wasn't even there at the time. Edit: also I'm on neither side here but this is one of the reason why I call this drama stupid because the people involve just asuming and quick to come to their own conclusion without talking to each other like real adults, as sad as Brax situation is a lot of his accusations on that google doc are just based on rumours and his own conclusion.
Whisper network 101. Atsu has demonstrated that he's not only fiercely protective of his "friends" but shows immense favoritism to the point of ignoring their wrong doings until he was confronted about it. If things were just personal life, this is fine, we're all defensive of our friends. My problem here is Atsu's refusal to make the distinction between "friends" and "business relations". When he starts defending himself: "Can I not choose who I associate... Make "friends" with?". Association implies "business related relations" whereas "friends" does not. Now, in the circle HE created, that distinction doesn't exist. So when he stresses the point about "friends" and that those people are all directly related to either streaming about or are employee's for Mihoyo; ANYONE he does not "befriend" will, as a matter of fact, ALSO be marked with "do not work with". His admitting to cutting his own salary to allow "friends" to get a paid event invitation, only reinforces this message: ""Friends" get work". This makes him the defacto "leader", the person everyone looks at for "friend or not?", of a VERY powerful whisper network that has near to veto powers regarding who gets events invitation/contracts in the games circle.
His awkwardness of answering every question about his communications with Hoyo about Brax just makes him look guilty af. Hes lucky Zack is really chill and pragmatic cause he sounded sus as hell several times.
@@insanedar what? Did Taylor Swift tell her circle of musicians to not support X because she doesnt like them? Then call up music execs and tell them not to invite the person to meetings and events?
@@insanedar You do know that Atsu distanced himself from that VA right? He asked his other VA friends and they also said he was accused of being a sexual predator by others too. You're being really FUCKING weird about this bro.
I watch a couple of these creators, even ones like Sekapoko who just suddenly up and randomly disappeared in my eyes, and woke up one morning to seeing so many drama videos. I was so lost. I don't keep up with any of these people outside of their relevant Genshin/Honkai Star Rail videos (don't follow them on social media) so it's all very confusing to me. The fact that you don't play the game but covered it is unironically so helpful. lol
That's what happened to me too. I realized one day that I hadn't seen a video from him in a long while. I went to check on his channel in case notifications were being strange again to find he sadly had not posted for many months. I'd wondered what happened at the time but this video certainly sheds some light on what's brewing behind the scenes. Regardless of who is to blame and/or who started it all, it's so sad to see the community relations openly sour so much with such alarming speed.@@Reaperherpderp
I think atsu is a rat but that stuff wasn't a big deal. Like it was explained that that was the only picture of that group of people attending a seperate con a year later, so he replaced bead and the Vtuber with another Vtuber to properly represent the group who were going to that event. That is believable and the dates check out
I have been a Tectone hater ever since the start and I am watching this to see what shit he is stirring in the pot once again. Man, I'm only an hour and 7 minutes in but the scale of the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinal in my heart is already leaning in full support towards him. Can't imagine the mental anguish he has gone through for the last 3 years.
All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely Players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts, His Acts being seven ages. At first, the infant, Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms. Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel And shining morning face, creeping like snail Unwillingly to school. And then the lover, Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier, Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard, Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel, Seeking the bubble reputation Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice, In fair round belly with good capon lined, With eyes severe and beard of formal cut, Full of wise saws and modern instances; And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts Into the lean and slippered pantaloon, With spectacles on nose and pouch on side; His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice, Turning again toward childish treble, pipes And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all, That ends this strange eventful history, Is second childishness and mere oblivion, Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything. ~William Shakespeare 1599
Thank you Asmon! I know you didn’t have to cover this but it helps to see you maintain a middle ground. It helps cause I had some bias for Tectone but seeing how you took the drama helps me a lot on how to think.
Yo Tec those Zajef clips proved...... Nothing? I'm so confused why they're even here. The 2nd one was literally the guy memeing about Xiangling. What - were you upset he called HuTao trash or something what is going on here?
All of these claims are really hard to be proven because the VODs are so old. So the only thing we can see are the clips on zajef stream reacting to tectone, about 1min each, most of which doesn’t prove shit
@@user-ki4no3ly5 same guy who (rightfully) calls out Atsu for making claims with no clips, is now the guy making claims about Zajef with no clips. And it's worse, in that there's no readily available background narrative to go off, so we the people are even more confused.
You don't need clips to prove shit when there's so much dirt on the guy from other people. If you defend Atsu, ur basically defending the Holocaust starter
Anybody else get 3 hours in and realize that you have no real idea what is going on and stopped paying attention the first couple minutes but still felt invested anyways?
if someone said to me "I'ma take a second pic without you just in case you'd be gone in 6 months" 'd be gone that moment. I'm not staying with people like that ngl
if you told me at 16 that asmonbald would be the mediator for my future online drama i think i would have shit myself
OMFG, Brax
This is fucking crazy Brax hahaha. Hope u are feeling better now.
Yo its Brax, Hope you doing good after all of this man. cheers.
The goat itself commented lets gooo
Let's be honest what they did to you was unjustified and unwarranted and spiteful
Hoyoverse games don’t need PVP because the content creators PVP against themselves.
Genius comment.
Hello guys Atsu here and today I'm gonna tell you how I've become the internets fecal matter disposal for a day
That one guy was doing pvp against himself! That’s a game I need to try!
It's like a guild war with all the factions.
Wait this Hoyoverse games or retardrama games?
“Hey man, do you think this is a good deal?”
*proceeds to never reach back out*
*makes fun of the guy for reaching out to him on stream*
*goes and talks to the company about the guys deal*
*deal falls through*
Seems pretty sus
Extremely sus.
I think they buried the lede with this one. This, alongside all the rumors of SA and cover-ups, is the part of this whole debacle that is the most concerning and could potentially open Atsu up for legal trouble, at least civilly for damages.
I think it didn't fall through because it breached confidentiality.
@@Zero_Li24maybe so but only because ratsu spoke about it
@@rory1er only through mihoyo headquarters, which was okay. Maybe he only informed them about the confidentiality of the contract which wasn't followed by brax, in turn making the mihoyo contractors think that brax is untrustworthy since he could easily disclose information that was supposed to be kept secret, and cut off all negotiations with him since he didn't follow the most basic and important rule.
@@Zero_Li24if he didn't sign an NDA then there was no confidentiality yet.
Asmon already beat genshin's endgame content without even playing the game
Imagine penguinz0 also catch on this
Never thought he'd fulfill his promise to play Genshin in this manner
A tru giga chad
I had a dream that asmon actually played the game but due to the reason he wanted to experience the beginning of it all, the 3 wishes
@@INTJ791if he does this is go to get even bigger.
I love it when Asmongold who doesn't play Genshin Impact at all is actually farming views about Genshin Impact content creators. lol. Absolute W and genius on Asmon's part.
making money without having to stoop low enough to play that garbage
@@kainemarsh9001I'm really curious, what do you not like about the game? Is it the devs or just gameplay itself? And have you actually tried it?
@Medicis1 I've played the game. It was very good, but I don't care for anime cutesy stuff and the microtransactions that are designed to take so much and give little. You don't need Genshin in your life.
@@reginaldcampos5762 I see, fair enough. I agree MTX is really bad with this one.
It’s a fun okay mid game on its own if you have self control. Been playing for year when I really feel bored, haven’t spend a single dime. 😂
Hearing what Astu say about Brax in this conversation and seeing what he said in his now deleted tweet is insane
Wait what?
What he says in the Asmon stream was sooo different to his reply tweet that he deleted 😂 The snake is on damage control and acting to be a victim.
@@Dusk-Cycle I didn’t see what tweet he deleted. I wonder what he said? 🤔
@@burrleejohnson there was a video about the deleted tweet from Mtashed's and Tectone's video (sorry for promoting). Atsu called Brax an "obsessive stalker" and saying Brax wants to be his friend so bad like he wants to say Brax is this type of person. Btw he didnt provide any screenshots or proof. All of it are just his words.
@@Dusk-Cycle ohhh thank you. I’ll check it out.
It's like I'm watching a kindergarden teacher trying to figure out why the kids don't want to play with each other, but instead it's grown ass men in their 20s and 30s.
100 percent this lol
Atsu is 55 😬
@@darkestjay8684lmao WHAT
Yep and 50's
@@alphablue02 He is not 50 lol. It's a inside joke
Don't know anyone involved: Check
Don't play any of the games mentioned: Check
Don't understand a single thing they're saying: Check
Don't really care and will forget by tomorrow morning: Check
Yup, this one's made for me boys
for real 3 hrs is way too much
Tectone 5 minutes before: „yo asmon i got new react content for you“
"this is dumb asf, and that's why it deserves my full attention" - asmon, probably
I am at same state but will skip it. 25 min was enough for me.
I played Minecraft while watching this
What I got from this:
Everyone's fanbase is a bunch of fanatics
Tectone is a big crazy hot-head
Envy is a little crybaby
Mtash is a punching bag of Gatcha community
Atsu is not trustworthy
Asmon has become a budged Judge Judy
Asmon´s viewers enjoy the best drama show on Twitch with popcorn right now
lol I like how u called them “gatcha community” bc that’s totally what they are 😂
Idk about the atsu “untrustworthy” characteristic. He definitely have higher standards when it comes to personal matters. Which can be interpreted as untrustworthy🤷♂️
@@rickyricardo2006 Maybe and maybe I can be completely wrong about everything since I am not ivested in this drama or most of those creators and this was just my first and second impression :)
this is exactly what I heard. Atsu for reals needs to mind his own business and he totally slipped up that there is a blacklist. Envy needs to get off the internet if its damaging his mental health. Tect did have a point about the whole the platform hates each other and shouldn't talk to each other. Because Asmon did have a a ton of points that when it comes down to it that the hard evidence shows theyre hyper sensitive and the level of narc levels growing is crazy.. It always starts with someone in chats. At the end of the day they look pretty damn foolish.
budget Judge Judy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Im just a guy who doesn’t play Genshin watching another guy who also doesn’t play Genshin LARP as an internet detective and do a deep dive in to some random Genshin CC drama that will have no affect on anyone that I’ve ever heard of, nor give a shit about.. 3hrs, lets go
I just watch this content as another drama on Netflix, while eating popcorn.
Me right now. Perfect to grind in an MMO to. Let's be real. :P
@@chiekokurokumothis is the realest shit bro. it like activates a dormant section of your mind and puts you into a flow state. 3 hours flies by
That's what drama is all about. I'm just here for the laughs tbh.
True
Tectone explaining the drama to Asmon has the same vibe as a son explaining the dragon ball z lore to his dad
Except he has a hard take like Goku is actually an evil Namekian and can't substantiate any of his stupid takes.
@@Strikeoutking are you implying goku isnt a evil namekian
My dad is an avid DBZ fan tho xD
@@brimstonezv1694 goku is saiyan, so evil saiyan is more accurate.
@@signumxmagnumyou are completely misunderstanding his comment 🤦♀️
3:11:47 exactly this, there's a reason, AS MUCH AS THEY'RE CRINGE, corporate statements exist. To be professional is to be not personal, and such a naivety with the streaming industry is people coming into it with a casual mindset because it's fun and falling on their own face because they just don't have the experience to be a public speaker. Accepting criticism with grace, having thick skin against heckling, and not treating associates in the space like you're still in the playground, are all skills that must be learned and honed.
Also, streamers thinking that putting their personal lives out for the world to see, and capitalising on the parasocial behaviour of their audience is a huge component of this. Television broadcasters understand this far better, which is why news presenters and others are so formal it's almost like they're soulless. Streaming is still a hilariously young industry, and a lot of the new personalities still haven't learned this about becoming internet celebrities. You see the difference here, when Asmon is saying Envi needs to hang up his coat because he's too sensitive. Asmon understands all of this, because he's been doing this job for a decade or more. You cannot become a public figure without good and bad press, and if you can't handle the bad press you should probably reconsider your ambitions.
Well said!
Needs to be pinned by asmon lol
It's amazing how I paradoxically don't give a crap about this drama but give a crap a tremendous amount just because it's so dumb.
Exactly this is pettier than 7th grade drama
The best drama is strange enough that it captivates you and large enough to have plot twists, but also isolated enough that it has no impact whatsoever on you. I watch neither creators nor genshin impact but the drama is so large this is like a movie for free.
@@imaforceanature7297 Exactly, its just like watching some sort of drama TV show, its so inconsequential to your life and so not actually serious if we compare it to some bad politics crap. that you can immerse yourself into it for entertainment without ACTUALLY giving a crap about it
100% 😂😂😂
I don’t give a shit either but for some reason I’m watching it because Asmongold’s is talking about it.
TLDR:
1. Tectone is an asshole
2. Envi is a sensitive baby
3. Atsu is a Rat
4. This is middle school drama
Spitting facts out here
5. I like cheeseburgers without pickles
So nothing of relevance changed, but the roach king made a 3 HR vid farming the content and also trying to pat Tec on the back while doing it
I like that Tectone admitted that he is an asshole in his tweet
#4 basically describes most internet drama
I could be wrong. Atsu said he would not bring up others not involved or speak on their behalf, but was the first to bring up the Enviosity situation and speak on his behalf.
maybe hes forgor since hes old man? LOL
"bring up others not involved" envi was literally involved in the drama?
@@yayeet4250but that was about Brax right?
Envi was involved.
> speak on his behalf.
He does this a LOT. He speaks for people a lot, with or without their consent. It's gross.
As a total outsider, all I can hear is "Bingbong gatekept Squeeky's trauma dumping during Hoyocon, so Fluffer and Doodlebug are narcissists and abusers."
Same. This shit is incomprehensible
you have adhd?
thas fuckin hilarious lol that's exactly how i feel rn
Dammit me too! Is this important?
@@pulledbyjaguars2418if you don't care about the genshin CC space then don't really.
you know its dumb when the drama isn't even about the actual game anymore 😂
Fr
Ye bro they just need to square up at this point
Ikr. Wth. Mihoyo not respond or change a bit after chinese community boycott. Then, hoyoverse cc make civil wars to expose themself. Reminds me with among us game. 🤣🤣 "Who is the impostor?" It's like that. So funny.
this is what happens when snakes are involve and try to bring up unrelated things to throw dirt hahaha they ended up having their closets dug up too
they 😂 hit someones personal life is shit .
atsudara and his akatsuki gang started it.
imagine tectone did not post an essay about them.
then fobLoser posted first
followed by Atsudara ..
then Devildish Next posting
also essay as bad as others
then this atsudara
post a very long essay its
called maalala mo kaya .
in my country if its very long sentence 😂 a total drama
but in a fking wrong way and annoying .
iwatch brax alot his a good person his just like volkin his very nice a very neutral person
and drama's isn't his forte
atsu must done something really bad personal .
brax acted ..
its really a bad one if this guy as nice as volkin that don't give time of drama's forced to do something.
Really liking Asmon's approach to this, asking for evidence, admitting that he's obviously biased, not making conclusion without solid proof and asking how he can improve at the end.
And yet everyone took his words as the truth.
Atsu: *to teccy* You know Envy is a crybaby dont be mean.
Teccy: Shows proof of other cc bullying him, so just because I can handle it its okay
Asmond: We headed into a massive tangent
Atsu: yeah we did, dont know why
What a snake, he was the one who opened it. And Tectone just gave clips of the hypocrisy.
This 👆
Bruh I was shocked they dropped that
@@TheShootingstarheroi think asmongold was just trying to rush through because tectone kept bringing up his exhaustion
They deviated from the point at hand and were heading in a direction where tectone would just victimize himself.
"Just because I can handle it its okay." I mean... yes? You adjust your force according to the strength of the target, I thought that's common sense. Same reason why you wouldn't punch a baby the same way you punch a grown man, if someone is emotionally weaker you treat them more gently.
Around 1:59:00 they talk about Brax talking about a deal with Hoyoverse with Atsu asking for advice and Atsu goes and discusses with Hoyoverse this deal. While Asmon is right there is no direct evidence the well was poisoned by Atsu regarding the deal, it seems more that just sus since the mere act of reaching out would have put hoyo on the back foot and hesitant about the deal since Atsu didn’t like Brax. I think that is the most severe claim and while Asmon is right about there not being enough evidence, it’s still extremely inappropriate to discuss someone else’s business deal with the company unless explicitly asked to. It’s sus enough even if Atsu said nothing the company would be hesitant to work with Brax if they even remotely read into it. That is in my opinion the biggest issue, not necessarily how Atsu talked with the company, but that he brought it up at all without consent
i think there was also something everyone passed right over in the early part of this. Brax asked Atsu for advice about pricing an exclusivity deal and Brax just dismissed the fact that the deal didn't go through. he tipped his hand to this guy that he was getting an offer and then after getting brushed off he didn't close the deal. it makes me wonder if he had just asked anyone else in the world with no conflict of interest if he would have been able to close. if Atsu is even the slightest bit petty and we have some amount of evidence of that, it's very possible that he got jealous/competitive and moved to sink that deal. even without any proof i feel it's a cautionary tale to play your cards very close to your chest.
i also found that really weird, like i know brax went to atsu first about the contract, but atsu sounded jealous that he wasnt apart of the contract and thats why he asked hoyo staff, atsu seems to have a big ego
It doesn't matter. In the eyes of the judge, if you don't have evidence, everything forming around what you say is made up. For something huge like this accusation, you need evidence.
Everyone working in social media has a big ego, their entire life/brand is built around this account.
Doesnt justify atsu's actions but its just a part of the business.
honestly?This just looks like a bunch of speculation. Sure, it is more than sus, but authorities need phisical/digital proof, otherwise how is our world going to deal with possible murdere@#$ rap@#$% and many others with just "i think", or "it looks like".
I think Envi forgets that early on people were excited to watch people pull because most people don't want to whale and the gambling was super contagious. People would leapfrog streams as soon as a streamer started pulling on a banner, YT videos of pulls always have high views. If you can't pull a shiny rock, people will watch others do it instead. And a lot of the player base are young or obsessed and chatters would absolutely pressure streamers to spend their fates. None of this means Tectone was the reason, people are just human.
Yea fr, like I honestly don't even see how any of that is even relevant to Techtone at all. In fact most of this stuff has more to do with the streamer themselves than it does Techtone.
If they think Tech is a bully or toxic, then they weren't around for the god awful rein of Maximilianmus, whom is a literal sociopath.
The wildest shit is learning that Atsu speaks like a fucking Austin Powers villain
1 million dollars
@@veiregor 50million dollars?!?
@@linkszxx sorry, 100 billion dollars
Damn this comment made me laugh so hard 😭😭🤣
I thought this exact same thing back when Atsu said, "a lot of players have this out of touch misconception that all content creators are rich." Then proceeds to say the most out of touch thing I've ever heard a genshit cc say, "I'm not rich you guys, I've only spent $20,000 on the game." Like that shit is normal, everyone spends $20k on gachas
Srsly. That's not my bag baby, I'm not rich
Brax sharing an idea to atsu and atsu discussing it hoyo without brax is severely overlooked here. Maybe the proposal didn’t went through but if it did that would be literally stealing. Especially atsu ignoring brax even after finding the proposal intriguing is a red flag
Huh?
Do you mean the contract proposal?
What really happened, or at least what's implied by atsu (keep in mind, hoyoverse is a company, not a person, and atsu's friend is not the CEO) is brax asked about the deal, atsu consulted his friend/line in hoyo, rhey were mot involved in said deal, and communicated this to atsu.
"who are Braxophone and Atsu? Why do they hate each other? Why is this video 3 hours long?" best description
it's funny how this whole drama is suppose to be about teccy and atsu but enviosity just show to get massively cooked instead
Envi shows up bringing in Tectone's marriage problem out of nowhere
@@LambatAwal He and Tectone's ex wife are both horrible.
@@SARGEHALO666v2 why ex wife
@@LambatAwal yeah i saw the clip myself, tectone was kinda of a dick with his wife but is nothing beyond a discussion between 2 people that are married.
calling this "abuse" is wild, couples discuss all the time is a extremely commun thing, idk how tf people pretend that couples don't fight it's crazy
They got married pretty young and that rarely ends well.
I just wanted to let you guys know that I baked some amazing apple hand pies while listening to these high schoolers vent about problems 3 years in the making , god damn, their delicious
I am making edibles right now listening to this xD
Thank you for telling me that apple hand pies exist
I was cleaning my room during this entire thing, I stopped a few times to think about some things and look at the evidence, this is a very entertaining anime arc.
Enjoy bro
Yooo, same! I made chili and lemon custard meringue 🎉
47:10 ngl i’m genuinely curious what Brax sent in the DMs that made Asmon say ‘ohhh’ and agreed to Brax immediately without questions regarding the topic of being able to ‘influence’
I think it's his hoyoverse link being someone close to Atsu, like a close friend or family member.
@@Evizu Could be or could be not. Eitherway even Mtashed who watched this one said he has a hunch what it was and agrees with Brax and Asmon, but also do not want to leak it.
@@LeAlpacaPlays Just that comment "they don't talk about it." when referring to Atsu's contact... Idk... Makes me think it's someone in the public eye, or someone that's known. I have a suspicion it's Atsu's partner, but who knows... Would also make sense with all the special treatment he's getting from hoyo.
Ha! I was right. My comment wouldn't have gotten deleted if it wasn't spot on
@@bewbsplox5289 shidd bro i missed it
Magical number 3. 3 pulls, 3 creators, 3 years and 3 hours
Full circle 😂
is it still Feb 3 in the west when the stream start? lol
And still no Half Life 3😢
Holy shit.
3 betrayals
A judge judy style court room with asmon dealing with drama is probably going to be a reality in a far future
I would not want to sit that trial. Intense
Someone buy the man a big white wig
If you got to bring up someone's past marriage as a "gotchya", you have already lost. The fact Atsu agrees it was a low blow in this video, then 180s on twitter just recently says a lot. Atsu tweeted to stop dogpiling on his own wife after he and Brax talked, Tectone responds "Tell that to Envi", and now Atsu is trying to justify Envi's actions were right. So now he is trying to spin the narrative that Tectone sent people after his wife. Got to say, looks manipulative 🐍
You wanna know what's crazy?
It turn's out tectones wife was the abusive one so envi fans literally have no excuse now🤣
27:57|
"I've got a two and a half hour video summarizing all of this" ~ Tectone
"Oh my god, two and a half hours? Holy shit" ~ Asmon
"Hold my beer" *3+ hour video* ~ Also Asmon
As a fellow mint picker I am disappointed in lil slime for bringing out someone's wife bc whales called us mint pickers 😂
Faxx!!!
Wife thing was way out of pocket, but you're a nobody mint picker. He's the him mint picker, big difference.
What in the fever dream is this sentence?
@@mchi6621bruh what are you talking about
@@mchi6621bruh Zmm is THE mintpicker too in Honkai Star rail
The fact that Zy0x started this pvp unintentionally with a meme and now the goat drinks tea in the corner while farming in genshin is so funny.
Honestly, I came here because everyone was like “bro it’s started with a meme” and I do not even understand how the hell it is connected to the original tweet
@UnofficialAstronaut-ul7zh so basically the tweet is count as a meme because it doesn't really hurt anyone who is mentioned in it (Tectone and the second guy), it just points out how different community reacts to genshin 4.4 update. This means, that anyone could be in this tweet and the meaning will remain the same, but twitter took it like a personal insult to Tectone and the second guy and started to shit on these guys
@@yawi4025 yeah, I saw the tweet and thought it was quite funny. Thanks for the explanation!
@@UnofficialAstronaut-ul7zhand bro still stuck at farming vermillion, when this war happened ok
2:10:00 is the start of the destruction of Enviosity
Thanks dude
Mint picker bullying starts 😂
Bro needs to read the room like this isn't about you 😂
envi beatdown
Oh for God's sake, that's all I came for and I'm like 1.5 hour in. Can finally skip to it.
So he said, and she said, we said that they said, but what he said we said, she said he had said we said it. by the sea shore.
In this community? At this time? Located entirely within the involved parties delusional heads?
allegedly
If this isn't the drama of all time, I don't know what drama is
That is why these cc looks so funny. It is all started by hoyoverse game.
Bet they sells sea shells
I can't wait for edits of Asmon as Neuvillette
3 hours and Asmongold jumped into the drama towards the end. Mr Pokke was streaming for 12+ hours straight watching the drama unfold 💀Drama of the decade right here
Will be forgotten in a week.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928no it will not, it’s not some casual shit.
@@ziodyne7774 true its gonna get forgotten in 24 hours 😂
@@kiretan8599 I’m 100% gonna forget this shit when I boot up palworld with the boys tonight
@@kiretan8599 not by the hoyo community, I’m not talking about asmo fans, who didn’t even care in the first place
I remember that one time in a Steak and Eggs Podcast episode, Asmon said that he would like to go through every Genshin drama that Tectone was part in. They actually almost did it now xD
MTASHED MENTIONED
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING 🔊🔊🔊🔊
Okay I have no idea what this is but in 3 hours I won’t care anymore
Here we go
I stopped caring at 40 mins. There was a lot of drama and very little hard evidence. There's a lot of circumstantial ones but not enough to really point out what happened.
Just the result of how weak the men of our generation have become
@@konaqua122 i understand why you think that but keep watching it gets way more interesting
@@Beanskiiiibet you wouldn't even have the courage to defend yourself if these kind of things ever happened to you
@@Beanskiiiiname checks out
Asmon digging into the truth and facts, past all the 'he said, she said' is one of my favorite things. Rumors are so bad and him taking time to make sure he has all the facts is huge and I just wish more people were like that.
I try to live my life this way as well, but boy does it suck when the people you mediate twist the truth :(
@@JH9923 100%. People like you give me hope for the future.
The fact that this is being noted so much shows how illogically emotional and uneducated a lot of people choose to be though. This level of verification should be a given.
@@dblackout1107 Oh I agree. People fall too easily into the mob mentality of things and it only gets worse with each generation. Most people don't bat an eye when it comes to this stuff until they're the ones in the hot seat.
I truly do wish it was more commonplace to ask questions and do research. Maybe some day.
i mean this a little bit different case here, this is why testimony is a form of evidence
anyone involved in the drama cant just pull up their convo screenshots like a walk in the park. These are interactions that built up, not like theyre recording it everytime they do that, which is why its so weird asmon is still trying to find a concrete evidence when 22 of them actually spoke up against atsu, i mean its fine to have the fairness but im afraid atsu only benefits from this, since hes been given a huge leeway to stir up stuff.
On a sidenote, Asmon would have perfectly cooked atsu and this video would have been much shorter if he just read atsu's tweet against brax.
Finally almost to the end of this video. Just wanna say that I'm grateful to Asmongold for the way he handled this situation. He had zero reason to get involved but he took so many hours of his valuable time to mediate a discord for some people that he has never met and never heard about. Respect to you and for everyone involved for talking things out and I do hope that you all get along in the near future. This community look up to all of you and hope that you all can continue to be the pillars that we needs to make the community better.
Not zero reasons at all:
Free content just sitting there waiting to be turned into views
A friend in need of support
Lmao whadyu mean "no reason at all" ? 😂
My question is why does Atsu call Brax a disgusting person for bringing up the SA at the party when he didn't. If you read both of their twitters, Brax states he heard from a friend that a CC caused a lot of trouble for Atsu and others at the party. All of it being hearsay. It's not until Atsu not only confirms there was an incident but acknowledges the fact that it was in fact SA. So why attack Brax and call him sick when he gave no details. Atsu did and also did nothing but cover it up and try to keep hush hush until he outed himself ?
He says "there has been rumours but nothing has been proven"
What do you mean it's proven its all heresy don't go preaching something that does not have proof
@@siliconhawk I'm not preaching. Atsu took down his Twitter post but it was saved by others and tectone even read it on his own UA-cam post around 1 hour and 46 minutes into the video. Atsu is the one who confirms SA. So how is it a rumor if someone who was there is the one to confirm it?
@@gothpanda13666 oh then I have not seen that part of "evidence" but if it did happen then that's pretty bad. But it's not anyone else's but the victims call to make. Not yours not mine.
What if you escalate this matter to a level where the victim is adversely affected then what
Vigilante justice is unfortunate not how the world works. It's only cool when Batman does it not people terminally on the internet.
@@siliconhawk I get what you are saying there. And I agree it is up to the victim ultimately. The thing that bothers me about it is that Brax never mentioned what the trouble was and even says it was just hearsay. It's not confirmed until Atsu calls him disgusting and some other names while then confirming that it was SA.. so my point is Atsu tries to manipulate the situation as if Brax let out a huge secret when it was in fact himself.
@@gothpanda13666 oh I see what you mean. Yeah that makes total sense to me. Your OG comment kinda got misunderstood or maybe your wording was not perfect. Whatever I get what the problem here is. Glad you cleared the motive of your comment. Not a lot of people do that appreciate it
If the community manager is aware that someone dislikes another person, he will refrain from inviting one or both to avoid issues. Since the Atsu is a friend of the manager, everyone he does not accept is automatically excluded, even without explicit communication. The main goal is to prevent drama at the event. The issue is not with the Atsu itself but with the fact that he is friends with the manager, and through their friendship, the manager knows whom to avoid inviting.
Yes. Even if Atsu wasn't intentionally blacklisting Brax, it seems he was EFFECTIVELY blacklisting Brax.
@@SundayMatinee THE MANIPULATOR
This is the best interpretation of the story. I never thought of that, but after reading your comment, many things make sense and click together.
Because lets be real. Do we realllllly believe that at least 1 offhand comment in passing was never made whilst at an event in earshot of someone from Hoyo. Considering Atsu tried to go out of his way to tell even Tectone not to trust him???
but these "events" that brax talks about are social gatherings (dinners, parties) and one specific con at the philippines (conquest). brax still get a lot of deals from hoyoverse for professional business outside of that. he gets sponsored streams, he even hosted an official LIVE EVENT for Honkai Impact 3rd, he often gets early access to the soon-to-be-released genshin characters in order to test them and make his guides. I don't think atsu managed to blacklist brax from hoyoverse if brax is still getting this type of attention from the company.
It's just crazy to me how the main point of the Genshin boycott was to speak out against the bullshit going on in the dev team. But now that initial effort has fucking backfired on the community itself. This all clearly solidifies the point that nobody can count on the Genshin community to do anything meaningful
Nice pfp
What baffles me is that I can't believe I sat through all of this.
Same, I wasted 3hr of my life and gained some extra brain rot😂
lmao i was 20 minutes in and realized i don't know who these people are and don't care about any of this
@@jarjarquanbut you did for 20 minutes didn't ya bud. You can pretend you don't but you exposed yourself lil fella
Same, I don't even know these people! 😅
I walked and listened to it
Where is Zyox in all of this? He's like the freaking unknown god, shows up at the beginning and starts all of this drama, then you never heard from him ever again.
He disappeared among the sea of butterflies
@@Pieceofbreadhuh Illusion of the past
Zyox is actually has been on screen for the whole time, it's just that he's too short you can't see him
@@JustAnActyetI wonder if he is leamenting all over
He'd probably just chilling, moaning and of course LAMENT!
I've never needed to touch grass more in my entire fucking life holy shit.
I am going to change my life going forward.
literal children😂😂😂😂
@@Regis_Philbinyou got this bro
@@patrickboian8545bro just turned 13
This entire stream was like a wild rollercoaster ride 🤣
x ? you mean twitter ?
@@chocolatine1690 🤡
Out of curiosity how much was the 6 mil account?
More like a police interrogation
As much as I want content creators to team up and pressure hoyoverse this drama is the most craziest shit ever and I can’t stop laughing
It feels like they were all called to the principals office
The bald principal's interrogative office
As someone who lived abroad, this sounds like very typical underhanded drama in/from certain international communities.
This whole contnet creator/influencer scene just seems to be a vehicle for children to stay children well into adulthood
People get into it so that they don't have to get a job, so that tracks
Over a children’s game too
This man is a genius 🎉
This is literally highschooler drama.
Adults don't like drama? You must hate politics then
2:48:48 “I hate that I’m invested in this”
Me too LMAO and I fucking love every second of it. This shit’s too hilarious
1:14:24 Atsu joining the call (with Mtashed)
I have trouble grasping Genshin drama even as a Genshin player. It's a single player game, who the fuck cares lol. I genuinely didn't even know there was a bunch of content creators for it.
haha same. just play dude im enjoying Xiangyun so much for exploration and Chenyu Vale is beautiful..
@@MuhammadKharismawanthe drama is because creators complained that Genshin players are treated like shit while star rail players continuously eat like kings. People said they wanted to boycott but they never did. Made some people really frustrated. They started calling out creators and then this whole thing blew up. Don't you guys care to get more rewards? Star rail players got a free broken ass five star. What do we get a four-star selector and garbage amount of primo / intertwined fades?
@@natebeal18 star rail get material stuff. Genshin get new region and new banger ost every couple patches. i dont care much for stuff i can already buy with money, what i care is whether i enjoy playing the game when i play it. nothing else. Genshin give me what i perceive as valuable when i played it on PC the first time 3 years ago, when Paimon was guiding me to Venti's statue. its been the same top notch world and music delivery ever since. all for free.
I'm not unsatisfied.
This is why I only watch guides or smaller channels for their leisure quest commentary videos.
If you are unsatisfied about the game, you have the choice to not play and/or not giving them your money. It is as simple as that. Money talks louder than anything, literally nobody gives a damn about overly emotional reactions except toxic spots of social media.
Stop acting like overly obese with health problem people who blame junk food for their problem while chowing down on triple cheese burger with a gallon of coke. Everybody can complain because it is the easiest thing to do, yet nobody wants to change because it is the hardest thing to do.
@@natebeal18 HSR get material stuff, but Genshin get new banger ost and regions to explore every couple patches, I don't care much for stuff that I can already buy myself. Instead I care more for whether I enjoy the experience of playing the game itself.
Genshin have been giving me what I see as valuable the first time I played it, when paimon led me to Venti's statues all 3 years ago on PC. Great World exploration, beautiful views, wonderful music and vibes. All for free.
I'm not unsatisfied.
Yes, Hoyoverse is being very stingy about the rewards, I know as Im also a FGO player for 6+ years, but I enjoy playing Genshin more than any other gacha games, heck any games in mobile. I will try Wuthering and judge whether their world can make me spend less time than in Tevyat so am open for new things. Hopefully it does become successful so genshin can be more "generous" tho.
Edit: it shows 5 comments on YT but I can only see 4, can't seem to find my earlier comment before this so the repost, also some more elaboration.
Tectone: I'll have a 2 and half hours of video summarizing this
Asmon: Oh my god 2 and half hours (I'll make 3hrs)
XD
1:59:00 the fact he went to them in the first place poisoned the well, the guy asked him for some advice and he ran and told the teacher, RATSU
Rule number 1 of the internet when your in an arguement. NEVER TAKE PEOPLE'S PERSONNAL MATTERS INTO THE ARGUEMENT. Envy broke that rule... FRICKEN TWICE?!?
rule 2, dont take your personal matters into the internet
It was facts though. Rule number 0 in the internet, you don’t show your shit side in the internet if you don’t want other people use it against you. Problem is, Tectone is sometime “positive” fun and crazy but he defines had thousand of shits and he is proud of his shit, if he feels sensitive about someone bringing out something that is true. Then he should probably grow up. But tbh he is okaybthe way he is, he is fun this way.
but to think this logically, couldn't you make his behavior towards his exwife as a pointof reference to the bullying accusations? Just for thoughts.
@@viejitalocarule 3, there are no rules
It’s a argument on the internet it’s a race to the bottom people gonna hit you with whatever they think gonna hurt you the most.
The one thing i love about Asmon, even tho he's biased toward Tectone because he's his friend, he still try to be very fair in this discussion and just wanna accept if there's a real proof
Yes 100%. Asmon handled this VERY fairly, asking for evidence of any claims. That's what you have to do to get to the truth.
The fair man strikes again
1:34:00 wait so their is a voice actor with sexual assault allegations and their still in the game? Cause Atsu said its not Tighnari's VA so there's another one???? or did I interpret that wrong
I searched it up, and i think it's Lyney's VA Daman Mills? I've seen videos where they explain allegations against him for SA to minors. He was defended by Funimation and let off free...
@@cozyjade I forget which exactly, but either Atsu or MTashed said that the person involved in this case was not Tighnari. And the reason being that at this point and time, Tighnari wasn't even in the game; so the Elliot incident hadn't even happened yet. So it would've had to have happened prior to 3.0.
That's not to say whatever is happening with Lyney's VA is impossible, I have no clue what any of that is about. Just that the mystery VA in question here couldn't be Tighnari or Lyney's VA.
@@risocakeso you're saying it didn't happen no? But of course, the internet white knights ride forth in their shining armor to brutalize the evil witch! So the company must act before they're accused of being witches too!
@@risocakeyet they fire and blacklist the VA that didn’t actually have evidence or proof of harassing minors. Welcome to planet clownery
when i thought tectone was done streaming and going to sleep he called the big boss, added 3 hours to the drama and feeded asmongold even more content. mtash clutching the whole thing while mr pokke watched the whole time, f4bmaster apologizing, getting out of the crossfire while envy straight up jumped in it ... drama of the year fr fr ... game of thrones type of shit
The idea that one person could gatekeep an entire community is super fucking weird.
I'm 26 minutes in and this shit makes zero sense
@@JD-mz1rl 1 hour in and im still lost
Because it’s not possible. Hoyoverse does the fuck it wants and one content creator’s suggestion may as well be nothing.
Atsu is Da Wei's long-lost son with the power to grant contracts, obviously.
The only logical thing is if Atsu have relative in Hoyo
This was surprisingly interesting to watch, while I do (did) play Genshin I never looked at any communities or creators so had no knowledge or opinion of this stuff, but seeing Asmon be very analytical and detective like make this a surprisingly easy watch, especially it being 3 hours long.
About an hour in, I think Antagonist has an inappropriate relationship(probably just dating) with Community Manager for this Sector of Popular Game. Exiled Streamers are being denied contracts because Community Manager is dismissing them, because Antagonist is influencing Community Manager against the Exiled. Antagonist never says he why he doesn't like the Exiled. Allies of Antagonist are also steering clear of the Exiled on a professional base but not a personal one, and they refuse to say why Antagonist doesn't like the Exiled. Protagonist once had a friend that was an Exiled but was excommunicated so hard that he quit streaming, had mental break down, and is no longer friends with Protagonist. So Protagonist wants to bring awareness that Antagonist is a dick and has caused massive problems, in order to excommunicate Antagonist. The Judge is going through evidence claiming that Antagonist has influence with popular gaming company, but it seems that it might only be influence with Community Manager for this sector...
Antagonist has a wife???
Finished watching the video. Antagonist seems to just be part of a close knit group and he promotes his inner circle, it just so happens that he has sway with Community Manager. Exiles are just complaining about favoritism, Protagonist keeps getting attacked for no reason.
To simplify this, Online communities are childish and selfish. Gacha game communities seem to be a concentration of these toxic traits. No one should ever play these Gacha games.
@@jrenderos4otk literally exists lol
@@Niger8876 Incredibly easy, the nature of Gacha is toxic. Its foundation is to make as much money as possible so it creates an environment of inferiority complexes to make the player spend money for more power. It becomes a never ending loop for more power to show off, and the free to play users have to spend more time just to stay in line with the lowest tier of endgame. So it becomes a spiteful job to them so they don't lose face.
@@jrenderos4you can clear any Genshin content super easily as f2p what are you on about
Sometimes it's fun to watch dramas where the stakes is so low you can just laugh at everything and don't feel bad at all.
pretty much. i am very invested in this drama i know this will go nowhere. but its very fucking funny
low for us but for the CCs its 10s thousands of dollars of sponsorship
It's not low when it someone's livelihood is being affected
@@biscuithammer2000 And their reputation slandered and they be potentially outcast
on a scale of 1 - 10 of trauma where would you place being a called a mint picker in a game where you go around picking mint
underrated comment😂
Mad respect to the way asmon handled this. It’ll be interesting to see how this goes going forward
Worst part is it was more than 3 hours, by the time Asmon hopped on Mr.Poke had been streaming for 12 hours already watching it from the start.
teccy was also live for like 10h before asmon started talking about it. it was a crazy day
TLDR:
The popular girl - Atsu
The jackass - Tectone
The nice guy - Mtashed
The me too guy - Brax
All got called into the principal office while
The victim - Enviosity
Is crying in the corner.
im proud to watch all of this unfold live on twitch, hopping from one stream to another
what a time to be alive
our generation is doomed if this is what they are proud of...
envy's clip accidentally playing at 2:26:50 is some fucking comical ass timing
Kinda surprised that Asmongold never pulled up Atsu's response to Brax to hold him accountable to the claims he was making.
Would have been an easy way to see how he was changing his story and trying to manipulate the situation
Also kind of a shame that the Envy tangent missed the main point. The timing of it being put out and the way it was put together with no hard evidence and instead clips of atsu being a "good guy" and tectone as a "bad guy" is extremely suspicious especially since those clips were completely unnecessary to the points he was trying to make.
Seemed to me that it was a manipulation tactic directed by atsu to get heat off him and deflect attention and hate towards tectone. Which further proves the claims being made against atsu
Yeah...I was watching it all unfold live from before Atsu posted his response and up until Asmon got involved and checked out mid-Asmon investigation. When I quit paying attention, Asmongold was making demands for impossible proof. He's literally asking for proof that you cannot get without court orders and discovery during a lawsuit. When it comes to big accusation I also want proof, but here we're dealing with whisper networks, back room dealings, and unofficial positions and he kept asking for publicly accessible proof. This is not the kind of thing you post openly on the internet because it will literally get you sued. Also weirdly Brax sent him a DM and Asmon said "I believe him" and then he...didn't stop trying to look for more proof and continuing the circus?
I guess it's just the content grind, but man. I didn't like it. I can assume he was trying to give Atsu the most benefit to prove he's definitely 100% guilty with no bias, but sometimes when you do this...all you're doing is giving the guilty party all the leeway.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit thats why we need certified lawyers hahaha
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbitno proofs - no case . Implying , rumors.. BS . Neither of 2 sides had any hard proofs , so that drama is complete content grind. Both sides had 10k viewers+ . win win for everyone except for viewers , they wasted their time imo
@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit I realllllly would love to know what Brax sent Asmon to get him to beileve him in a single discord message.
I have a guess but am not gonna speculate.
Depp v. Heard live streaming is bearing fruit. Asmon is applying knowledge.
I really enjoy how Asmon approached this drama. It's kinda like watching him play a game lol. The thought behind every question and the quest for receipts is actually refreshing.
Literally the only thing I understood about all this is that I don't want Tectone pissed at me.
Legit 😭
bro will go through hell and back to drag you with him 💀
Bro is vengeance
Well, this implies that he has instilled fear in you, which is toxic.
As much as the guy is hilarious as fk sometimes, he's a bully and a toxic dude. And we know it. And I'd still watch most of his contents, but do not condone his bullying.
btw, out of all the people involved, I only watch tash, teccy, and asmonbald.
@@wuuuuuukkkkooooonnngggg4937 theres so many hoops from "instilled fear in you" -> "which is toxic." You know who would scare the sht out of me in person? Marco pierre white. Is he intrinsically toxic for being renowned and highly respected? Is the stern aura he has just toxic by default? Instilling fear = toxic is kinda a wild blanket statement to make that doesnt fit like 95% of the time lol.
Asmon using all the knowledge he gathered during Depp's trial and acting like ''judge'' thingy here. This is cinema.
im mentally exhausted listening to this convo for 30mins while half paying attention, and you guys can do this convo for 3 hours, dammn content creators do have super powers, good lord
It's called views
I love how he says Goose went home, got some therapy, quit content creation and now he's doing a lot better. Like content creation is opiates, or meth, god damn.
But in a way, it is isn't it ?
Yeah, there's nothing weird about what you're saying, it's just right. Envi later on proves that hardcore in the social aspect, but you can also take it from the occasional break vids some youtubers put out where they highlight what their workload entails and why resting is important to them
For some people it basically fucking is lmao.
Even taking away his point that he was mentioning about how certain people just don't do well in the spotlight and can't handle all the negative attention associated with any degree of popularity (The same thing is extremely applicable to the entertainment industry as a whole, not just content creators), content creation literally hits certain types of people with huge amounts of dopamine.
It's why social media addiction is such a big topic in recent years. Because some people can't help but tie their self worth to their social media e-clout and just love that feeling when they see number go up. Not to mention people who when it goes down at all it fucks them up big time. And then you have what Teccy was talking about with the whole stress and whatnot of just being a public figure in general added on top and some people are just NOT a good fit to be content creators.
This video is biased af
It can heavily affect the mind like opiates, so yes. Not everyone can handle it.
Envy thought he was cooking but got cooked instead 💀
kinda feel bad for him, bro shouldnt be on twitter starting a beef he cant win yet alone mentally handle 💀
He cooked himself 😂
exactly hes extremely soft so i dont know why he tried his luck. @@amazingwormy8453
Bro jumps in and wants to rant about his experience with Tectone and pulls up personal life sh$% thinking it has anything to do with their beef. This dude needs help for sure and is way too sensitive.
weak weak sad slime
@1:19:54 It was at this moment that Atsu realized that he messed up by saying too much 😅🙌
2:20:20 Wtf did this turn into? Why Envy just catching strays, when the Rat is sitting right there.
Master baiter at peak
I don't know, but I think he's free to play.
A manipulator knows how and when to divert certain topics from himself. He saw how they were taking apart his bs, therefore he switch the convo elsewhere. Envy just happened to be the bait.
After watching the full 3 hours i can confidently say this whole situation or more an example Nepotism than it is Gatekeeping. I can also say it's fair that people could see someone getting their friends sponsorships or spots at an event as Gatekeeping. Gatekeeping and Nepotism kinda work in a similar way but they're not the same thing. I don't think Atsu was Gatekeeping, but has used his position to bring his group of friends more so into the Hoyoverse fold than they would have without his influence. If he did bad mouth whoever to Hoyo that could be Gatekeeping, but it doesn’t seem Atsu did anything with the intent to gatekeep.
The guy airing things out, I cant remeber his name, seems to have read a little too much into things and connected strings that might appear one way, without proper knowledge. Then portrayed them as something they weren't. From his perspective they look that way, with more context I don't necessarily think Atsu was intentionally sabotaging him.
Without the full, omniscient, context who knows, this is just the overall vibe I'm getting.
I really think this was just two personalities that dont mesh together, with Atsu being the one more close in the bigger creators he would inadvertently cause his gripes to braxophone(the person accusing him) to straight up be left in the dark not knowing wtf whenever he would contact some deals to fly or party.
With him being more in power and perceivably irresponsible by public opinion, I think alot of people will find it real easy for atsu to balme and braxophone to support. Atsu track record of being in dramas doesnt help either.
But 1 thing Mtashed also mentioned (01:58:19) is that, if Brax came to Atsu just to ask about contract stuff since Brax is planning a deal with hoyoverse and he came to Atsu since he's a big content creator and just wants to know things like, "is this enough?" or "how much should I be getting paid?" etc., why did Atsu then felt the need to contact Hoyoverse about this? From the words of Mtashed and Asmongold, that is really sus.
Imagine you are talking to your office colleague who has been working in the company more than you about the raise the company is offering you. You ask your colleague "Hey man, since you have been here longer than me, do you think this raise is enough for the amount of work I'm doing in the company?" and then your colleague starts talking to your boss asking about whether the raise is true or not? Obviously, the boss would be angry because why are you talking about these kinds of stuff to other people when it should've been private. Which I assume would be the cause of Brax not getting the deal.
But the thing is, it was valid for Brax to ask someone more experienced about these kinds of things. He trusted Atsu and well Atsu did answer his questions. But the problem is, why did Atsu stil felt the need to confirm to someone from Hoyo that Braxophone is closing a deal? What was his motive?
@@xia0ting The motives the intentions, the decision or whatever it is, its really just in atsu’s hands now. He has been suspicious from his mannerisms but I also cant press hard evidences that possibly don’t exist yet.
Atsu called Brax as obsessive stalker in his twitter post though. In my opinion, Atsu hates Brax for nothing. Also when Atsu ask mhy staff about Brax contract is so sus. I'm getting the vibe that he hides something.
Atsu probably felt that Brax was trying to get close to him to gain more popularity, and decide to shut him out. No one likes to be used. I don't know why anyone would like that they're entitled to be friends or be included with bigger content creator groups. If they don't like you, they don't like you, how simple is that?
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1:24:43 Asmongold’s ability to be so direct about something like that
1:39:56 Atsu being dumb
2:08:02 Envy being called a mintpicker
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The most suprising thing about this drama is Asmongold being the middle man and the most fair person in all of it , when it doesnt even concern him at all.
well to be a mediator and unbiased it has to come from a position where the events doesn't concern you. if it did concern him then there would be a bias.
He is biased tho
Damn Asmon, I was not a subscriber, I just viewed clips here and there. But you earned it man, going through all this shit. Thank you for being reasonable and expecting proof of claims.
Hate that people in the comments as well as Asmongold at the start, are completely ignorant of the damage it has done to Brax.
The highschool drama part is true, and only true for Atsu's controlling behavior. Imagine that you're already someone socially awkward, then the person you look up to suddenly starts talking shit behind your back just from the very few encounter you've had with him. And the person that's talking shit about you, is also the popular kid at school that EVERYONE likes. You don't want to get on the bad side of someone like that, especially when you're an aspiring creator. It's fucking awful and I don't think the words on the document could ever describe the mental exhaustion it actually gave Brax. This was one of the things that made him go on medications for his depression.
Yall brushing this off as petty drama when someone's livelihood has been spiraling down.
Good context and I thank you!
Brax received no damage. dude been getting sponsored and has access to pre release Mihoyo servers, just because he's not into a creator circle doesn't mean he was sent to the shadow realm.
@@ammarnk9260he’s grown through his own and kudos to him. But remember, Brax stayed away on Atsu’s lane since as he never even tweeted or done things publicly with him and his circle (pretty evident you rarely see him on GI events) and that would have stayed the same (even if it eats him). But Atsu brought him first by labeling him as a manipulator publicly so he could come ‘clean’ onto Tectone.
@@ammarnk9260 And the sponsorships are supposedly enough to make him feel unostracized? You don't get the extent of Atsu's snake behavior. When you're in the same content creation space and you go to events, you don't want people to actively avoid you. Sponsorships and deals aren't everything. He also just want to have peers he can lean back to or hang out with. But it's difficult to do that when there's a certain mean girl going around telling people that Brax is "creepy" or "obsessive", and that he only uses people for clout when literally all he did was reaching out as a fellow content creator. I don't think the video covers the part where there are numerous other smaller content creator that SPEAK UP against Atsu, in defense of Brax because everything that Atsu wrote in his initial response (which has now been deleted, lol) are easily debunked by other people who have actually hung out with Brax.
If you don't get how any of that isn't slander, you're probably part of the problem.
@@Ruddline I also need to add that Brax isn't the only one that Atsu has blacklisted from events. There is another much smaller content creator that literally couldn't come to her friend's own birthday party just because Atsu would be there too and her friend said "no, you can't come sorry". ALL BECAUSE ATSU DOESN'T WANT HER THERE.
Now whether the friend is areal friend to begin with, it's a different story but Atsu getting the final say in who goes and who doesn't is ridiculously messed up cause, who tf are you??
Petty high school drama
more like preschool drama
I don’t think a guy removing potential revenue streams from people, destroying peoples lives and almost getting someone to you know what themselves while also covering up a literal crime which happened in a party he hosted (I’m fairly sure) which he has gone on record to confirm it happening in attempt to guilt trip Brax which in turn exposed it actually happening, is “petty high school drama”. It’s drama for certain but absolutely not petty and shouldn’t be swept under the rug
@@bacon_208 proof?
@@bacon_208there was no evidence of any of this tho
@@bacon_208you didn't read atsu tweet did you? The SH incident and I remember this was about a victim got SH in the past but she didn't want to talk about it and want to keep it confidential so Atsu and his peers didn't want to go out of their ways to talk on her behalf, the offender wasn't even there at the time.
Edit: also I'm on neither side here but this is one of the reason why I call this drama stupid because the people involve just asuming and quick to come to their own conclusion without talking to each other like real adults, as sad as Brax situation is a lot of his accusations on that google doc are just based on rumours and his own conclusion.
This is the closest thing to a PVP that hoyoverse players wanted 😂
Whisper network 101. Atsu has demonstrated that he's not only fiercely protective of his "friends" but shows immense favoritism to the point of ignoring their wrong doings until he was confronted about it. If things were just personal life, this is fine, we're all defensive of our friends. My problem here is Atsu's refusal to make the distinction between "friends" and "business relations".
When he starts defending himself: "Can I not choose who I associate... Make "friends" with?". Association implies "business related relations" whereas "friends" does not. Now, in the circle HE created, that distinction doesn't exist. So when he stresses the point about "friends" and that those people are all directly related to either streaming about or are employee's for Mihoyo; ANYONE he does not "befriend" will, as a matter of fact, ALSO be marked with "do not work with".
His admitting to cutting his own salary to allow "friends" to get a paid event invitation, only reinforces this message: ""Friends" get work". This makes him the defacto "leader", the person everyone looks at for "friend or not?", of a VERY powerful whisper network that has near to veto powers regarding who gets events invitation/contracts in the games circle.
His awkwardness of answering every question about his communications with Hoyo about Brax just makes him look guilty af. Hes lucky Zack is really chill and pragmatic cause he sounded sus as hell several times.
Is Taylor Swift going to befriend every no name musician that wants to be in her circle?
@@insanedar what? Did Taylor Swift tell her circle of musicians to not support X because she doesnt like them? Then call up music execs and tell them not to invite the person to meetings and events?
@@takumifujiwara9181 if you barely knew her and come up to her and tell her that someone she knows is a sexual predator, I bet you she would.
@@insanedar You do know that Atsu distanced himself from that VA right? He asked his other VA friends and they also said he was accused of being a sexual predator by others too. You're being really FUCKING weird about this bro.
I watch a couple of these creators, even ones like Sekapoko who just suddenly up and randomly disappeared in my eyes, and woke up one morning to seeing so many drama videos. I was so lost. I don't keep up with any of these people outside of their relevant Genshin/Honkai Star Rail videos (don't follow them on social media) so it's all very confusing to me. The fact that you don't play the game but covered it is unironically so helpful. lol
I followed Seka when 7ds grand cross came out then he like disappeared when i quit playing it lol. Completely forgot about him until this video
That's what happened to me too. I realized one day that I hadn't seen a video from him in a long while. I went to check on his channel in case notifications were being strange again to find he sadly had not posted for many months. I'd wondered what happened at the time but this video certainly sheds some light on what's brewing behind the scenes. Regardless of who is to blame and/or who started it all, it's so sad to see the community relations openly sour so much with such alarming speed.@@Reaperherpderp
My ex-girlfriend did that all the time. Always taking pictures with me and without me “just in case”
It always felt weird. Shocker, we broke up.
it's a red flag for sure, never stay in a toxic relationship like that mate.
I think atsu is a rat but that stuff wasn't a big deal. Like it was explained that that was the only picture of that group of people attending a seperate con a year later, so he replaced bead and the Vtuber with another Vtuber to properly represent the group who were going to that event. That is believable and the dates check out
I have been a Tectone hater ever since the start and I am watching this to see what shit he is stirring in the pot once again. Man, I'm only an hour and 7 minutes in but the scale of the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinal in my heart is already leaning in full support towards him. Can't imagine the mental anguish he has gone through for the last 3 years.
I have no idea who any of these people are or what they do on the internet but I’m HOOKED and can’t wait to get through the rollercoaster
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely Players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His Acts being seven ages. At first, the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
Then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honor, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slippered pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side;
His youthful hose, well saved, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.
~William Shakespeare 1599
Thank you Asmon! I know you didn’t have to cover this but it helps to see you maintain a middle ground. It helps cause I had some bias for Tectone but seeing how you took the drama helps me a lot on how to think.
3 hours!? Here we go
I just got done with Teccy's video like 45 mins ago, I guess I am following this for the long haul. I don't even know most of these creators lol
Yo Tec those Zajef clips proved...... Nothing? I'm so confused why they're even here. The 2nd one was literally the guy memeing about Xiangling. What - were you upset he called HuTao trash or something what is going on here?
All of these claims are really hard to be proven because the VODs are so old. So the only thing we can see are the clips on zajef stream reacting to tectone, about 1min each, most of which doesn’t prove shit
@@user-ki4no3ly5 same guy who (rightfully) calls out Atsu for making claims with no clips, is now the guy making claims about Zajef with no clips. And it's worse, in that there's no readily available background narrative to go off, so we the people are even more confused.
You don't need clips to prove shit when there's so much dirt on the guy from other people. If you defend Atsu, ur basically defending the Holocaust starter
Living on my own, this is great to listen to while cleaning, simulates Living at home, and is a comfort. 10/10 content!
Anybody else get 3 hours in and realize that you have no real idea what is going on and stopped paying attention the first couple minutes but still felt invested anyways?
Felt like some investigative shit that I had no idea what it was about after like 5 minutes
Same lmao😂😂
I was too afraid to say it but yes
Felt like watching Tenet half cut
if someone said to me "I'ma take a second pic without you just in case you'd be gone in 6 months" 'd be gone that moment. I'm not staying with people like that ngl
Imagine taking picture with your wife and without your wife just in case she divorces XD
lmao well it was the family who said it to be fair 😅 not the partner
I'm certain they'd be happy if that's all it takes for you to leave 😂
Why not just do the same, take a picture only with you on it, excluding everbody else and tell them the same reason?