I had a 2017 1200 Multi Enduro, and basically loved it for long distance touring. Eventually, the lack of wind protection, noise from the valve train, and seat height convinced me to trade it. From what I have read and seen in comparisons like this, Ducati has checked off all my boxes for improvement. Fuel consumption is the only down side I see, but I can live with that. I am 71-years young, and stopping more often for fuel could be a good thing. 170 HP, and drop dead good looks are game changers for me. Most of the BMW's I have ridden felt top heavy to me compared to a Multistrada.
I love my 2019 R1250 GS HP! In 2019 my 20 year old R1100 GS Speedometer needle fell off at 189,000 miles! I decided it was a sign from GOD. I found the new one in Red White and Blue! I went from 86 HP to 134 at 65 years old, and I like it! I still have the 1999 too! They are the best motorcycles I've ever had!!!
I think it will largely depend on what type of rider you are. If you're an ex sportsbike rider then the Ducati will probably suit you better, but the more stable on the brakes, torquier engine shaft drive and better fuel consumption of the GS will suit far more riders in the real world especially if they carry a pillion.
Ducati's a good bike if you love to do your own maintenance and know mechanics well or would like to get screwed by a dealer but I think most bikes these days are like that to a certain extent me personally I hate doing maintenance on a bike I like my energy going elsewhere so I like the BMW with the shaft driven instead of a stupid chain. Oil changes are easy on naked bikes people got to think about these things before they purchase a bike.
I got both in the past, the models from 2013 2014 so less refined: the GS is perfection and never makes a false step, basically you can go on top the world and have also fun. The Multistrada, is just a fury, you just wanna lean and cornering is a joy. Now I ride an old timer Ktm 990 adventure.
I just went to purchase a new adventure bike. I narrowed it down to the Ducati Multistrada and the R1250GS. Honestly, after a lengthy test ride, it was a no brainer. I chose the BMW. I wanted desperately to like the Ducati better, but it put out a lot of heat on my legs/crotch, notchy shifter, an inferior windscreen, and a rougher ride. But I did prefer the looks of the Multistrada. I purchased the BMW today. I'm very happy with the decision.
I've had the GSA and now have 1200 Ducati Multistrada Enduro. I found the GSA to be the better for off-road, but the Ducati is not far behind. What I like the best is that I do lots of off-road (50,000 kms/year), and to do that you have to do lots of on-road to get there. GSA is just a little boring for me on-road but the Ducati makes me have a permanent smile. I will be looking at both of these models but I'm leaning towards the Ducati. It's the best bike I have ever owned and I can't remember how many bikes I have had.
Angry 😠 Bird 🦅 arrow dynamics, yes and I like that!!! The previous models were sexier. Now the Multistrada is looking more like the GS with all of its multi finishes and multi use of colors which I do NOT like, that’s what at them apart. Italian 🇮🇹 sexiness v German 🇩🇪 utilitarian design.
I’d go for the range topping Sport model! I’ve owned a GS and it’s truly amazing motorcycle but wasn’t all that exciting. The Ducati seems like it would be the one you’d never get bored of riding and the long service intervals are a plus!
I've got a GS and I'm looking at the MTS. The only reservations I have are dealer experience and reliability, not that my GS has been ultra-reliable but the warranty and dealer has been first class. Any experience with Ducati previously?
@@thewoodster8607 I hear you about lack of Ducati dealerships around the US. I’ve never owned a Ducati but the new V4 Multistrada is going to be my first, seems like it ticks all the boxes for me except fuel range but that’s a trade off I’m willing to accept.
@@thewoodster8607 With the BMW you need the dealer, the Ducati has been developed over three years to get rid off the failures and problems of MTS1260 and BMW R12xx. Who has the better reliability in electronic, engine? I´ve seen, heard the MV4s live at a local dealer, top finish. NO Exhaust flap. Ever paid a manifold as the exhaust flap at a BMW or Ducati 1260 has stopped working? Take look at the MotoGP results, Superbike-Championship, Rallyes and you can imagine, who has the ability to deliver what you have paid for and who needs delaer to patch the bike. If you have a GS, K25 or K50, how about the fuel sensor or rear brake air-pump? BMW uses a front brake with leaking problems over 3 years while Ducati mounts Brembo and at the "s" M50 monobloc. My Ducati S4 has never been at the dealer to fix a bug.
I have a 950multistrada, and agree with they are extremely excellent and exciting bikes to drive. I love my 950 best bike i ever owned. Was looking forward to the V4. Until i saw the V4.
@@thewoodster8607 my Duc dealer is also a BMW, Triumph,Kaw, Honda, and Suz,, but the division of the brands through the dealership is individual. The overall experience with the Duc team has been excellent, better then my HD. And my bike now approaching 15k has been flawless. The DUC & Bmw teams in the dealer are closely related, sharing service and sales staff. And have the same enthusiasm for both brands. When i wanted an ADV bike they where very fair with info on each brand sujesting that the BMW was more proven. Now they are happy that i am pushing my Ducati because they are getting real feed back and proof of the reliability of the multistrada. The service manager is very interested in my bike as he says, you are riding it the way it was ment to be riden which allows us to really know the level of quality in the brand and recomend the multistrada. Most of these ADV bikes amongst our customers barely get used as they were designed to be.
If I spent more time carving paved roads, the Ducati, more time touring, and/or off road, BMW would be a better choice. Both excellent bikes. Thanks for the great review. There is no wrong choice here.
I have never been interested in big adventure bikes thinking they are big clumsy things. OOOO how very wrong I have been. Took the ducati V4 multistrda out for a test ride, bloody hell what a bike!!! (admittedly this was not my intention I was aiming for the panigale) As soon as it is moving it feels light and lot less intimidating than I thought it would be. The handling is superb and it can properly hunker down in the corners. The power delivery is smooth not snatchy and it is most definitely quick. I have ridden quite a few bikes but this is hands down best bike I have ridden to date. I cant comment on the new gs as I haven't ridden one yet.
THIS is the biggest advantage? Maybe the only one. Few BMW-GS have the ride from to dealer to fix the rear brake or update the sw, a couple of riders are long distance riders and the least are travelling in regions with less than 95 Octan
I know you're right man,this is a joke ,he's just reading what we already know ,I own a r1250gs and just test rode the v4 s I should make my own video and cash in 😆
I head Ducati before , spend lots of time and money at service ! Now I do have BMW K1300S for 10 years no issue. Any how for ADV bike I will always choose motorcycle with driveshaft you don't want to deal with a chain when you travel cross-country. That is why GS and Super T are best but thats just me :)
I just purchased a 2020 Multistrada 1260S after riding the V4 and the BMW GS. Why? I love the twin and the styling of the last gen Ducati. Plus it was the only 2020 left in the showroom and I got a great deal. I know the valve maintenance is expensive but what the hell - if I'm going to drop this much on either of these variations what does it matter? The main thing for me is that I'm excited to get on the bike every day. Love the styling. The majority of my time is spent commuting so it gives me an all in one bike that can move into mild off road functionality - although I'd probably cry if I dropped it on some rocks.
I just purchased gs1250! It is so comfortable! I didn’t ride the Ducati! Mite been a mistake! I’m happy with my purchase! Can’t stay off of it. Happy BMW owner!
The Multistrada is very tempting as it fits like an italien suit made to measure. However, the 4 cylinders and the power come with a price. And this price is fuel consumption. I am in the market for a touring bike which is why I want one with reasonable consuption such as the 1250 GS.
And the overall fit and finish of the Ducati IMHO is poor, with shit plastic panniers, attachment points and lots of plastic. The windscreen pistol style adjustment is cheap feeling and not a solid dentent when set, the little tank storage lid is very thin and flimsy and did not click closed or open with a positive feel. The Ducati is merely an adventure bike for the street. That’s fine, but call it what it is. No comparison with BMW. None.
I don’t think that the difference in fuel consumption on the v-twin vs the v4 is that significant to even mention it. Ive watched fifty Multi v4 reviews and none of them mentioned increased fuel consumption compared to the v-twin models. Old Multi 1260cc vs new Multi 1200cc . Even if the number of cylinders is more it does does not mean it will burn more fuel. V4 has 4 smaller cylinders and the twin has two large. Your statement that the v4 will burn more fuel because it has more cylinders has no merit. On top of that you say the 1250GS is more economical is also wrong, the bile has 1250cc engine and its a heavier bike! 😂
@@roadglide Its obvious that you never rode a Multistrada in your life. Your comments are made of pure visual assumptions. The Ducati bikes have incredible attention to detail in every part they put on the bike is very well thought of. I own a Multistrada and I have yet to find something on the bike that is not made well. The GS has about the same amount of plastic (fairings) as the Multi. Buiilt quality on the GS and the Multi is the highest Ive seen from all adv bikes. If you dont belive me just search on YT “Ducati assembly factory” and you will see what Im talking about. Then go watch a Honda assembly video… you will laugh how cheap they are made. ua-cam.com/video/xFNvPGo0T8w/v-deo.html
@@roadglide Another comment based on NOTHING. Just go to your dealer and see the bike before claiming such stupidity. And by the way, the windscreen adjustments on GS cannot be used when driving more than 100 km/h, you feel it will break if you try to adjust, instead of the V4S which can be used at any speed. I owned 3xGSA.
I've had 5 Gs's and 3 Multi's over the last 12 years and enjoyed them all, I am not loyal to any manufacturer but need reliability. I've had some issues with one of the GS's but major probs in 2017 with my last Multi. In the first 3 months of ownership I had 1 fuel sender unit, a new ECU, 2 x clutch slave cylinders and a third one on it's way out! new exhaust system, new TFT screen, front discs and constant Red engine warning light, which they couldn't fix, so it was returned to the dealer!! I love riding the Multi's but at that price I expect reliability. it's alright throwing tech at a bike but until it's more reliable i'll steer clear. I know there will be those who had had issues with BMW's as well but I can only speak as I find !
Have a R1250RS in the garage, would never dream of going off road so no interest in the GS. Mighty tempted to get the Ducati Multistrada S to keep the RS company.
Probably too hard to call until they're tested back to back? I like both and think they cater for slightly different riders? Think I'd prefer to go round the world on the BMW, but for Sunday day out? I'd take the Ducati.
I rode them both before deciding to buy. The Ducati is great- great rider position, sound and an incredible performance. But the engine was a bit jumpy at low speed or when letting off the throttle going into a curve. The BMW is butter smooth, the telelever doesn't cause the front end to dive and it rides effortlessly. For curves and thrills the Ducati, for long distance touring and comfort it's the BMW. At 64 yrs, after a number of years on a sports bike, I'm going for the BMW.
It seems to me that the Gs is a safer choise. With all the free service and 5 Years waranty .I have driving both of them several times and the multistrada is a great motorcyckle but the Bmw has a wonderfull motor charachter because you dont need to pusch it to get the power. After riding severall sportbikes i think riding the Gs is to ride a sportcar with a V8 on two weels.Its carm and easy to handle but with really heavy power from the torque And if you use all the driving mode in a right way its really good to handle so i by a Gs😊👍
Test rode both bikes and bought the 2021 r1250gs TE Adventure and get over 50mpg and i`m no slow coach. love the torque, more relaxing for touring and has great 2x heated seats(option) and very hot grips (standard)
Ducati looks great and will undoubtedly be an exciting ride but BMW‘s service network is unrivalled in SA and probably globally, same can’t be said for Ducati so choice is easy for the intended purpose of these bikes, besides it’d take a very skilled rider to call the BMW slow....
Has to be Ducati.I have a Multistrada 1200 S since 2012 been all over Europe,never give me a pick of trouble. So me being Santa I bought myself a new 1260 S Enduro 4 weeks ago. Roll on 1st April ref pickup at dealers
All of these bikes are great in their own way depending on what your riding style and purpose looks like. If you tour a week or longer at a time while covering thousands of miles mostly on highways and secondary back country roads with minimal dirt with a bike loaded up like an old miner's mule, then GS Adventure is your bike! Also if you're like me a 6' or taller and 250 lbs or heavier, again GS Adventure is your bike. If you and your riding style doesn't fit the above description than you'll be really happy with a GS too. Especially with their price! If you're in good physical shape, agile (young or old), speed demon on the road, aggressive riding style then Ducati could be your choice. Just to let you know that GS/A models selling new or used as hot cakes right now (Winter of 2022) and especially GSA models are selling even before dealerships could put them on the sales floor! Most dealerships have a waiting list with deposits paid to them for their upcoming stock of GSA models while there are many Ducati MS models sitting on the dealership floors. That tells you the desirability regarding this bikes. GSA models are very hard to find anywhere, especially Triple Black version... So as a second hand market value and ease of selling after a while is your concern, then GS models will be the right choice for you.
@@vvevvevvvv I want to feel like I'm riding a bike on whatever I ride. I personally have a Honda adventure bike. Four cylinder bikes are just too smooth and clinical. They're not exciting no matter how much horsepower they have.
I’ve owned 4 Multistrada’s including the Enduro. Excellent bikes I love the look of this one and the cheaper service costs. The Beemer is a great bike but the Ducati is so much fresher looking and bang up to date. I think BMW GS needs a whole new restyle in the near future.
Ducati has a cheap fit and finish. Panniers are crap plastic. Good for absolutely nothing. Ducati does not have the adventure legendary pedigree. Ducati is a great street super slab and twisties street machine that looks like an Adventure bike. After that limited.
There is something to be said having a “popular” bike like the GS The support network for BMW is more comprehensive in the United States, which may weigh into a purchase decision. I ride an old beamer (1999 r1100s) with telelever suspension and I really enjoy the bike so I’m a bit biased
@@justiceequity9648 Honestly in my case they don’t need it and my friends who ride newer bmw bikes have no issues to speak of, but we live in a small town and the nearest dealers ,2, are in Houston ( 2 hour ride, or a trailer if say you need a longer service or repair) that’s the only thing that makes it a problem. My only other issue is that my bike is so old only one dealer has a tech that will work on oil heads or air heads. Ducati is even further away and their service department is suspect from more than one report I’ve heard. Beamers are just the most trustworthy European company over the whole spectrum in the USA right now. 20 miles away though, Harley and all the Japanese bikes on one compound. So it’s not simply about which bike is “best”
@@justiceequity9648 Was wondering the same, why do you need a dealer or service places all places when the bike never need any service? a BMW maybe need it i never have needed one for my Ducati i only need it for service nothing else.
Long time Multistrada owner here, moving in the opposite direction. I’m riding more than I used to, and for me the 1250 just feels better over days and days in the saddle.
If I had to choose a 500 lb bike to take into the dirt, it would be the BMW. But I don't really want to ride any 500 lb bike in the dirt. The Ducati is a sport touring bike in all but name, IMO, spoked 19" front wheel and semi knobby tires not withstanding. Radar cruise control with blind spot detection? Jeez, I just turn my head and look?
Now that I've watched this all the way through, I wish you'd done a better, no not necessarily better, but I wish you had compared the different "tiers" of each bike to each other. Like the highest spec'd GS to the highest spec'd Multi. This would have been easier to follow the pricing comparisons as a viewer. Just more of a suggestions I guess for the next time you do a comparison vid like this.
BMW, at least in the US, has a stop sale on bikes with the Hayes brake calipers. There’s a fix in the works, but it’s killing the dealers with leftover 2020 stock that they can’t sell. BMW will eventually put on Brembo calipers and hopefully soon for their dealers. Looks like Ducati has BMW on the tech side, but maybe BMW has the reliability with a proven design. Posted from a R1200GS Rallye owner...with Brembo brakes.😀
On paper v4 multistrada looks great BUT if you're a person who doesn't chop his bikes in on pcp every few yrs I'd be worried about build quality, there is a guy on UA-cam who has put 22k miles on a panagale in 2yrs 😮forks needed replacing! As well as engine oil leaks and head bearings plus a few other build issues ,that was in the United States not cold salt ridden UK ,too many expensive parts to go wrong and Italian build quality means a no from me .
Personally for me GS every time, wife (pillion) said ducati too much vibration, who am I to argue. September changed from 1200gs to the 1250GS what a bike 👍👍
The new V4 has less vibrations than a GS How about your rear brake, your front calippers, spokes (if you have spoke wheels). From my point of view, some parts on the BMW are an issue.
I will test a V4S in the new year but it would have to be a brilliant all-rounder to displace my R1250GS. One issue not mentioned in your comparison is the fuel consumption. I know it's not a big deal for many, but if you are doing high mileages, the BMW is likely to be 25% more fuel efficient, which will be noticeable both in terms of range and cost.
maybe this comparison made sense a few years ago (or more) but now they are diverging in many ways. the GS, it has a legacy but Multistrada is still looking for a character for itself.
Another great comparison video. I would have to go with the Ducati for the edger looks and performance. It would be the ideal bike of choice darting down the canyons or summiting Pikes Peak on weekends.
Awesome review Bob! I’m still not entirely convinced on the adaptive cruise control on a bike. I do however love it on my cars and wouldn’t buy another car without it! Call me a bit old fashioned when it comes to two wheels as I remember when ABS first became available on some bikes in the very early 90’s. Wasn’t a fan of it then however with today’s tech I possibly wouldn’t want a bike without it. I’ll just need to test ride both, back to back to make my own mind up! Thanks for the review and keep up the great work you do! 👍😎🇦🇺
That being said I also grew up in an environment where in cricket language, if a batsman, took their mark, and was wearing a helmet then all that gave a pace bowler (like myself in the late 80’s) a target to hit! Obviously, now it’s a safety requirement for he very obvious reasons...
My biggest curiosity is the reliability. I've had a brand new Aprilia for the past year that has been giving me a huge headache so I am a bit apprehensive about Euro bikes
Since I've been studying with this type of bike for a while to choose which bike is suited for my ridding style. So last week I end up and bought the Ducati Multistrada V4S. GS and V4S both are great bikes though.
If you look at used bike ads you'll see Ducati's with very low kms / mileage and the Bmw boxers with over 160k kms / 100k miles.....that should tell you everything.... Low rpm torque, shaft drive and easy to maintain boxer engine is a no brainer. Don't get me wrong, i love Ducati's too but as a second bike, so a streetfighter V4 or Panigale V2 / V4 makes a lot more sense
I have owned both with 35k valve checks and 10k oil intervals the Ducati V4 is an less expensive to maintain. The build quality of the Ducati is better.
FYI: If you’re under 6’ with a 32” inseam get the Ducati Multistrada! If you’re 5’ 11.5” and have a 34” inseam get the BMW GS! Ergonomics are king 👑!!! Also consider what dealership for Service 🔧 is closest to your home base.
Ducati dealer network is for smaller than BMW but the far longer service interval of the Multistrada nails it for me as the better choice. Yes the range is less than the BMW, but an extra tank can easily be fitted to the bike.
I had the GS 1250 std from Jan. 2021 up to Oct. 2021 almost 12K km. Great motorbike. I am now with the Multistrada V4S that is more funny motorbike. Both are excellent motorbike. It depends what are you looking for and who you are as rider
I have a 1250 gsa amazing bike. Show the Ducati a few winters and watch it fall apart, then there's the resale value, the big gs hardly looses and money.
I laughed hard at that 1250GS being ridden like a motocross bike in the dirt. I can imagine all the middle-aged dentists drooling over their espressos as they imagined themselves doing this once they bought one.
The BIG drawback of the Multistrada is the size of fuel tank (i.e., Range}. You only get about 200 miles on a tank of gas with the Multistrada; whereas, I have been getting over 300 miles on my BMW GSA. Long range is absolutely critical for me since I ride all over the US. You can go on backroads in Texas and not see a gas station for over 200 miles. I plan a trip to Alaska from South Florida this summer. The low range on the MS is basically preventing me from even considering a MS on that trip. Without a large tank option, it makes the MS a non-starter. Finally, I have many motorcycles - and would love to acquire the new MS V4 for performance, etc ...(selling the BMW and replacing with MS V4, but now I see that is not an option.
I've got a GS bought second hand and love the torque on low rpm. But the Multistrada V4S seems to become a competitor for the GS despite of the high price. One thing: I think almost no one buys a GS without extras and so almost no one will buy just a bare V4... It just makes no sense.
Do you need 170+bhp in an adventure bike, or is it just a fast upright tourer trying to pass itself off as one. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful but who's going to be fully trusting in an italian thoroughbred. ACC is starting to turn up on many new bikes and I would be interested to see how well it works on a bike. Anyone who's used it in a car will know how fast poo can leave your body when a rep without warning dumps his car right into the gap between you and the car infront or the ACC picks up a car in the next lane and go's into collision avoidance and slams everything on without warning. In a car it shits you up, on a bike, well I can see it spitting you off if you're not ready for it.
Which would I have? Well, neither. But if I had to choose it would be the Ducati because everyone goes for the GS and I like to be different. The blind spot warning is great though and one piece of tech I actually think is useful!
@@leighchapman935 yes, but which is safer when travelling at 70 mph, looking behind you or looking in front of you? Doing a lifesaver is travelling 50 meters not looking where your going!
Does the S1000XR have spoked wheels, or a 19" front wheel? No? The new V4 Multi does, which is why it's now being compared to the GS instead of the XR.
@@JJAhern It’s not the wheels that make the bike an adventure. My statement is more in line with the design considerations, like what are the safety factors, how rigerous was the off-road testing and what happens when you drop it - will you be able to ride it home? Will the engine run on poor fuel? I understand what you’re trying to say. ADV’s range from 250 4 strokes to 1290 adventure R’s. What is considered an adventure differs from one person to the next. As I see it, Ducati took a road-based platform, put spoke wheels on it, tuned the suspension and modified the traction control. They will sell it as an adventure knowing it’s going to ride tar 95% of the time. I don’t believe it can compete with purpose build offerings like the R1200GS or 1290 Adventure R in an off-road environment
Trying to determine which bike is better from specs, is like tasting food from reading the recipe. I do like you motobob and I am a subscriber to your channel but videos like this are only good for filling digital space!
The new Multistrada does look very nice and will no doubt perform very well, but for what these bikes are intended, I simply would not consider anything chain driven. I've had chain and shaft drive bikes and used both for long distance touring and no question in my mind. HAS to be shaft and in this comparison, that makes it the GS. Which also happens to be a great bike, so no loss there.
So you think the shaft is better? i have used a chain driven mc for 20 years and have never had any issues with the chain and the shaft if it get broken it will cost a fortune to replace and it can't be repaired in a tour off nowhere if some goes wrong, chain can easly be fixed not a chaft, also a chain driven mc is lighter.
@@eddale5557 I have never heard of a shaft 'breaking', but I've been riding motorcycles now for over 50 years and I'm fed up with adjusting and lubricating chains and always having to clean the entire back of the bike which gets covered in filth due to 'fling' of lubricant from the chain. Yes lubes are better now than they were, but I have bikes with chain and some with shaft and I've had bikes with belt drive and it is an indisputable fact that the back end of a chain drive bike gets dirty in a way the others do not. I'm fully aware that a chain is more efficient and makes sense for racing etc, but I no longer want anything to do with them. Well, I do still have some chain drive bikes, but I wouldn't consider another one for the aforementioned reasons and certainly not for any long distance touring where there's no question a chain represents a far greater maintenance requirement and potential source of failure than a shaft. I know others have no problem dealing with the issues a chain brings, but not for me, not on an 'adventure' bike like the Multistrada and GS etc. There is simply no way I'd contemplate a world tour having to rely on a chain.
After wreaking havoc on the streets with my 2019 Ducati Hypermotard 950 SP for going on 2 years, I'm getting the religion. My 2001 R 1150 GS is about to get put out to pasture. Viva Italia!!
I’ve had 3 gsa’s and now on the multi v4s which is brilliant and crucially very different. On balance the v4s is a more involving fun bike and omg it’s fast!
Wonderful!! Very well indicated tech changes in comparison to previous models🙌 At least for me as an old Ducati owner, these changes do sound great news and specs are maybe a bit more for Ducati’s advantage although no big differences really between these two, marvellous bikes!
WAY WAY WAY too heavy. ADV bike, keep it light, keep it capable offroad, truly not just marketing, and get rid of ALL the unnecessary tech which just make them expensive and more unreliable.. otherwise, they are just heavy highway cruisers with offroad paintjobs not a pure ADV bike.
It seems to be taking bike manufacturers a long time to adopt the tech for adaptive cruise control and especially blindspot monitoring. Am I missing something, the tech has been about for years.
Looked at both and bought the new Triumph Tiger🤣 I would go for the Ducati for out-and-out performance or the GS for Swiss Army Knive abilities and that low down Boxer stability. Both are amazing and amazingly expensive. Just wondering if we ever need 170HP in the real world.
@@greg9076 Hi, I had the GT Pro and really liked it a lot. I sold it because it didn't really correspond to my current riding needs (a lot of city commuting and some weekend jaunts in the Paris region. I since bought an Aprilia Tuono 660 and love it but it is a completely different bike. If you have any questions about the Tiger, I'm happy to reply.
@@tonydare7614 OK, thanks. I had a 2016 RSV4R. Hit a deer doing 45mph; didn't go down somehow! Aprilia was terrible about getting me replacement parts (like 7 months) so I sold it. Great bike though.
@@greg9076 don't get many deer in Paris 🤣just trying to avoid the cars, scooters, bicycles, electric devices of all kinds, pedestrians, etc. Take care and ride safe
A guy I spoke to in a BMW showroom pre Covid said ( and he owns a GS ) that GS's are like pubic hair = everyones got them !! that said they are a great bike.
Tough call. TBH all this tech is a bit off putting for me on the other hand it’s exciting; reliability being my main concern, based on experience, a certain Austrian manufacture. Guess I’ll hold out to see how reliable they are, I’d lean towards the Strada personally but like I say it’s a close call and very subjective like all things. Wouldn’t knock anyone’s choice of bike.
Having had and loved two Honda VFR750's I do like a V4 so would love to try this Ducati even if it is expensive. I have a GS1200LC basic model without all the electronic stuff and I really love riding it so it would be interesting to try out the Ducati in S model form.
If it's anything like my 2015 1200S, it's a POS: lousy suspension (wants to do tank slappies all the time) dangerous throttle maps (any old lady in a Prius can out drag you at the lights) unintended acceleration in first and second gear (usually there is no power in these gears, then suddenly it's full blast for no reason) most parts are made out of cocoa tin; I did an oil change at 5,000 miles - there was a pile of metal on the magnetic drain plug - the longest piece 3/16 inch.
I have tried to leave the shift cam boxer. But damn, as soon as I do, everything else seems like it is weak down low and has to be rung out. 1290 ktm , face ripper , but not until you get up in the tach… and just not as smooth.
I had a 2017 1200 Multi Enduro, and basically loved it for long distance touring. Eventually, the lack of wind protection, noise from the valve train, and seat height convinced me to trade it. From what I have read and seen in comparisons like this, Ducati has checked off all my boxes for improvement. Fuel consumption is the only down side I see, but I can live with that. I am 71-years young, and stopping more often for fuel could be a good thing. 170 HP, and drop dead good looks are game changers for me. Most of the BMW's I have ridden felt top heavy to me compared to a Multistrada.
I thought i was old 61 hehe so i se i have maybe 15 more good year on a mc then :) And that wil be on the Multistrada v 4 S .
I love my 2019 R1250 GS HP! In 2019 my 20 year old R1100 GS Speedometer needle fell off at 189,000 miles! I decided it was a sign from GOD. I found the new one in Red White and Blue! I went from 86 HP to 134 at 65 years old, and I like it!
I still have the 1999 too! They are the best motorcycles I've ever had!!!
When a journalist says "the GS has a more acceptable starting price", you now shit has really hit the fan in the world of pricey adventure motorcycles
Totally agree with you. When adding all mandatory packs to make it equivalent to V4S, prices are more or less equal.
Where are the $100k+ adv bikes?
I think it will largely depend on what type of rider you are. If you're an ex sportsbike rider then the Ducati will probably suit you better, but the more stable on the brakes, torquier engine shaft drive and better fuel consumption of the GS will suit far more riders in the real world especially if they carry a pillion.
So for me it's a GS
Ducati's a good bike if you love to do your own maintenance and know mechanics well or would like to get screwed by a dealer but I think most bikes these days are like that to a certain extent me personally I hate doing maintenance on a bike I like my energy going elsewhere so I like the BMW with the shaft driven instead of a stupid chain. Oil changes are easy on naked bikes people got to think about these things before they purchase a bike.
I got both in the past, the models from 2013 2014 so less refined: the GS is perfection and never makes a false step, basically you can go on top the world and have also fun. The Multistrada, is just a fury, you just wanna lean and cornering is a joy. Now I ride an old timer Ktm 990 adventure.
I just went to purchase a new adventure bike. I narrowed it down to the Ducati Multistrada and the R1250GS. Honestly, after a lengthy test ride, it was a no brainer. I chose the BMW. I wanted desperately to like the Ducati better, but it put out a lot of heat on my legs/crotch, notchy shifter, an inferior windscreen, and a rougher ride. But I did prefer the looks of the Multistrada. I purchased the BMW today. I'm very happy with the decision.
Hi, how would u rate the MTS V4 PP then?
Agree on this one. In terms of looks, I like the multiestrada more but overall features, BMW is the solid choice.
I've had the GSA and now have 1200 Ducati Multistrada Enduro. I found the GSA to be the better for off-road, but the Ducati is not far behind.
What I like the best is that I do lots of off-road (50,000 kms/year), and to do that you have to do lots of on-road to get there. GSA is just a little boring for me on-road but the Ducati makes me have a permanent smile.
I will be looking at both of these models but I'm leaning towards the Ducati. It's the best bike I have ever owned and I can't remember how many bikes I have had.
Both are excellent bikes, and that sporty V4 is very desirable. So overall, I'll pick the Africa Twin.
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Agreed! But I am biased due to owning a 2018 Africa Twin DCT.
These multistarda always looked like angry bird 😂
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Angry 😠 Bird 🦅 arrow dynamics, yes and I like that!!! The previous models were sexier. Now the Multistrada is looking more like the GS with all of its multi finishes and multi use of colors which I do NOT like, that’s what at them apart. Italian 🇮🇹 sexiness v German 🇩🇪 utilitarian design.
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Yes it looks like a hawk and the GS look's like tractor lol :)
My money's on the Ducati.. spot on review! Like the tech, but will miss the traditional layout. Ducati has to keep up & improve like the competition.👍
I’d go for the range topping Sport model! I’ve owned a GS and it’s truly amazing motorcycle but wasn’t all that exciting. The Ducati seems like it would be the one you’d never get bored of riding and the long service intervals are a plus!
I've got a GS and I'm looking at the MTS. The only reservations I have are dealer experience and reliability, not that my GS has been ultra-reliable but the warranty and dealer has been first class. Any experience with Ducati previously?
@@thewoodster8607 I hear you about lack of Ducati dealerships around the US. I’ve never owned a Ducati but the new V4 Multistrada is going to be my first, seems like it ticks all the boxes for me except fuel range but that’s a trade off I’m willing to accept.
@@thewoodster8607 With the BMW you need the dealer, the Ducati has been developed over three years to get rid off the failures and problems of MTS1260 and BMW R12xx. Who has the better reliability in electronic, engine? I´ve seen, heard the MV4s live at a local dealer, top finish. NO Exhaust flap. Ever paid a manifold as the exhaust flap at a BMW or Ducati 1260 has stopped working? Take look at the MotoGP results, Superbike-Championship, Rallyes and you can imagine, who has the ability to deliver what you have paid for and who needs delaer to patch the bike. If you have a GS, K25 or K50, how about the fuel sensor or rear brake air-pump? BMW uses a front brake with leaking problems over 3 years while Ducati mounts Brembo and at the "s" M50 monobloc. My Ducati S4 has never been at the dealer to fix a bug.
I have a 950multistrada, and agree with they are extremely excellent and exciting bikes to drive. I love my 950 best bike i ever owned. Was looking forward to the V4. Until i saw the V4.
@@thewoodster8607 my Duc dealer is also a BMW, Triumph,Kaw, Honda, and Suz,, but the division of the brands through the dealership is individual. The overall experience with the Duc team has been excellent, better then my HD. And my bike now approaching 15k has been flawless. The DUC & Bmw teams in the dealer are closely related, sharing service and sales staff. And have the same enthusiasm for both brands. When i wanted an ADV bike they where very fair with info on each brand sujesting that the BMW was more proven. Now they are happy that i am pushing my Ducati because they are getting real feed back and proof of the reliability of the multistrada. The service manager is very interested in my bike as he says, you are riding it the way it was ment to be riden which allows us to really know the level of quality in the brand and recomend the multistrada. Most of these ADV bikes amongst our customers barely get used as they were designed to be.
If I spent more time carving paved roads, the Ducati, more time touring, and/or off road, BMW would be a better choice. Both excellent bikes. Thanks for the great review. There is no wrong choice here.
I have never been interested in big adventure bikes thinking they are big clumsy things. OOOO how very wrong I have been. Took the ducati V4 multistrda out for a test ride, bloody hell what a bike!!! (admittedly this was not my intention I was aiming for the panigale) As soon as it is moving it feels light and lot less intimidating than I thought it would be. The handling is superb and it can properly hunker down in the corners. The power delivery is smooth not snatchy and it is most definitely quick.
I have ridden quite a few bikes but this is hands down best bike I have ridden to date. I cant comment on the new gs as I haven't ridden one yet.
Biggest advantage of BMW is ability to use 91 ON fuel which is very useful for adv tourer on long rides in remote areas.
THIS is the biggest advantage? Maybe the only one. Few BMW-GS have the ride from to dealer to fix the rear brake or update the sw, a couple of riders are long distance riders and the least are travelling in regions with less than 95 Octan
You need to test them back to back, reading off the brochure wont provide you with a solid answer.
Totally agree
Yep. A bloke just talking in his room
@@reinhart482 keyboard rider? :,))
I know you're right man,this is a joke ,he's just reading what we already know ,I own a r1250gs and just test rode the v4 s I should make my own video and cash in 😆
@@shaggybx which one do you like more mate?
I ordered the Multistrada V4S & liked everything better than the BMW & can't wait for delivery of it
I head Ducati before , spend lots of time and money at service ! Now I do have BMW K1300S for 10 years no issue. Any how for ADV bike I will always choose motorcycle with driveshaft you don't want to deal with a chain when you travel cross-country. That is why GS and Super T are best but thats just me :)
I just purchased a 2020 Multistrada 1260S after riding the V4 and the BMW GS. Why? I love the twin and the styling of the last gen Ducati. Plus it was the only 2020 left in the showroom and I got a great deal. I know the valve maintenance is expensive but what the hell - if I'm going to drop this much on either of these variations what does it matter? The main thing for me is that I'm excited to get on the bike every day. Love the styling. The majority of my time is spent commuting so it gives me an all in one bike that can move into mild off road functionality - although I'd probably cry if I dropped it on some rocks.
I just purchased gs1250! It is so comfortable! I didn’t ride the Ducati! Mite been a mistake! I’m happy with my purchase! Can’t stay off of it. Happy BMW owner!
The Multistrada is very tempting as it fits like an italien suit made to measure. However, the 4 cylinders and the power come with a price. And this price is fuel consumption. I am in the market for a touring bike which is why I want one with reasonable consuption such as the 1250 GS.
And the overall fit and finish of the Ducati IMHO is poor, with shit plastic panniers, attachment points and lots of plastic. The windscreen pistol style adjustment is cheap feeling and not a solid dentent when set, the little tank storage lid is very thin and flimsy and did not click closed or open with a positive feel. The Ducati is merely an adventure bike for the street. That’s fine, but call it what it is. No comparison with BMW. None.
I don’t think that the difference in fuel consumption on the v-twin vs the v4 is that significant to even mention it. Ive watched fifty Multi v4 reviews and none of them mentioned increased fuel consumption compared to the v-twin models. Old Multi 1260cc vs new Multi 1200cc . Even if the number of cylinders is more it does does not mean it will burn more fuel. V4 has 4 smaller cylinders and the twin has two large. Your statement that the v4 will burn more fuel because it has more cylinders has no merit. On top of that you say the 1250GS is more economical is also wrong, the bile has 1250cc engine and its a heavier bike! 😂
@@roadglide Its obvious that you never rode a Multistrada in your life. Your comments are made of pure visual assumptions. The Ducati bikes have incredible attention to detail in every part they put on the bike is very well thought of. I own a Multistrada and I have yet to find something on the bike that is not made well. The GS has about the same amount of plastic (fairings) as the Multi. Buiilt quality on the GS and the Multi is the highest Ive seen from all adv bikes. If you dont belive me just search on YT “Ducati assembly factory” and you will see what Im talking about. Then go watch a Honda assembly video… you will laugh how cheap they are made. ua-cam.com/video/xFNvPGo0T8w/v-deo.html
@@roadglide Another comment based on NOTHING. Just go to your dealer and see the bike before claiming such stupidity.
And by the way, the windscreen adjustments on GS cannot be used when driving more than 100 km/h, you feel it will break if you try to adjust, instead of the V4S which can be used at any speed.
I owned 3xGSA.
Then buy a V2S the fuel cost is not ant problem.
I've had 5 Gs's and 3 Multi's over the last 12 years and enjoyed them all, I am not loyal to any manufacturer but need reliability. I've had some issues with one of the GS's but major probs in 2017 with my last Multi. In the first 3 months of ownership I had 1 fuel sender unit, a new ECU, 2 x clutch slave cylinders and a third one on it's way out! new exhaust system, new TFT screen, front discs and constant Red engine warning light, which they couldn't fix, so it was returned to the dealer!! I love riding the Multi's but at that price I expect reliability. it's alright throwing tech at a bike but until it's more reliable i'll steer clear. I know there will be those who had had issues with BMW's as well but I can only speak as I find !
Ducatis have reliability issues
I’m happy with my Multi 1260 Enduro. Love that motor!
for the road they are both good, off road Africa Twin
Have a R1250RS in the garage, would never dream of going off road so no interest in the GS. Mighty tempted to get the Ducati Multistrada S to keep the RS company.
definitely a GS because of the way boxer engine and telelever suspension works is completely unmatched
Probably too hard to call until they're tested back to back? I like both and think they cater for slightly different riders? Think I'd prefer to go round the world on the BMW, but for Sunday day out? I'd take the Ducati.
And just how many BMW R1250GS actually go around the World?
@@mikehamilton9128 A lot more than Ducati's.
@@peterwray4847 Maybe that have some to do with the pricing? Ducati is very expensive like all italian things.
I rode them both before deciding to buy. The Ducati is great- great rider position, sound and an incredible performance. But the engine was a bit jumpy at low speed or when letting off the throttle going into a curve. The BMW is butter smooth, the telelever doesn't cause the front end to dive and it rides effortlessly. For curves and thrills the Ducati, for long distance touring and comfort it's the BMW. At 64 yrs, after a number of years on a sports bike, I'm going for the BMW.
Just where did you ride a V4?
@@PJHartman Marseille, France where I live.
Great review thanks, has made me think about a GS after a few years on a Multistrada. Was split between a V4 and a Tiger 1200 for my next bike...
Had 2 Multistradas, mk1 and mk 2 dvt. Now on a 1250 gs adv and will not go back to Ducati
@@keithyboy123 is the multistrada that lesser for offroading or biking in general or just like the feel of sitting on new advs?
@@aadityaacharya5902 the GS is easier to throw around bends
It seems to me that the Gs is a safer choise. With all the free service and 5 Years waranty .I have driving both of them several times and the multistrada is a great motorcyckle but the Bmw has a wonderfull motor charachter because you dont need to pusch it to get the power.
After riding severall sportbikes i think riding the Gs is to ride a sportcar with a V8 on two weels.Its carm and easy to handle but with really heavy power from the torque And if you use all the driving mode in a right way its really good to handle so i by a Gs😊👍
Test rode both bikes and bought the 2021 r1250gs TE Adventure and get over 50mpg and i`m no slow coach.
love the torque, more relaxing for touring and has great 2x heated seats(option) and very hot grips (standard)
Ducati looks great and will undoubtedly be an exciting ride but BMW‘s service network is unrivalled in SA and probably globally, same can’t be said for Ducati so choice is easy for the intended purpose of these bikes, besides it’d take a very skilled rider to call the BMW slow....
Has to be Ducati.I have a Multistrada 1200 S since 2012 been all over Europe,never give me a pick of trouble. So me being Santa I bought myself a new 1260 S Enduro 4 weeks ago.
Roll on 1st April ref pickup at dealers
All of these bikes are great in their own way depending on what your riding style and purpose looks like.
If you tour a week or longer at a time while covering thousands of miles mostly on highways and secondary back country roads with minimal dirt with a bike loaded up like an old miner's mule, then GS Adventure is your bike! Also if you're like me a 6' or taller and 250 lbs or heavier, again GS Adventure is your bike.
If you and your riding style doesn't fit the above description than you'll be really happy with a GS too. Especially with their price!
If you're in good physical shape, agile (young or old), speed demon on the road, aggressive riding style then Ducati could be your choice.
Just to let you know that GS/A models selling new or used as hot cakes right now (Winter of 2022) and especially GSA models are selling even before dealerships could put them on the sales floor!
Most dealerships have a waiting list with deposits paid to them for their upcoming stock of GSA models while there are many Ducati MS models sitting on the dealership floors. That tells you the desirability regarding this bikes. GSA models are very hard to find anywhere, especially Triple Black version...
So as a second hand market value and ease of selling after a while is your concern, then GS models will be the right choice for you.
so true , buy a Ducati>>>>>>> full pockets + speed demon
Twins are just more fun. They feel mechanical and a little bit agricultural in a good way. It's just more pleasant.
And you want to feel an "agricultural" engine in your BMW full of modern bells and whistles. Really?
@@vvevvevvvv I want to feel like I'm riding a bike on whatever I ride. I personally have a Honda adventure bike. Four cylinder bikes are just too smooth and clinical. They're not exciting no matter how much horsepower they have.
@@TheAegisClaw But the feel of power and the acceleration makes the 4 cyl. more exciting. The V twins feel so weak and slow
@@locoboy1242 you need to try more v-twins.
I’ve owned 4 Multistrada’s including the Enduro. Excellent bikes I love the look of this one and the cheaper service costs. The Beemer is a great bike but the Ducati is so much fresher looking and bang up to date. I think BMW GS needs a whole new restyle in the near future.
Ducati has a cheap fit and finish. Panniers are crap plastic. Good for absolutely nothing. Ducati does not have the adventure legendary pedigree. Ducati is a great street super slab and twisties street machine that looks like an Adventure bike. After that limited.
There is something to be said having a “popular” bike like the GS
The support network for BMW is more comprehensive in the United States, which may weigh into a purchase decision.
I ride an old beamer
(1999 r1100s) with telelever suspension and I really enjoy the bike so I’m a bit biased
BMW Motorrad dealer coverage in the US is only good by comparison to Ducati's.
I wonder why BMW needs a dense service network. The rear brake issue? The maintenance intervals?
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Honestly in my case they don’t need it and my friends who ride newer bmw bikes have no issues to speak of, but we live in a small town and the nearest dealers ,2, are in Houston ( 2 hour ride, or a trailer if say you need a longer service or repair) that’s the only thing that makes it a problem. My only other issue is that my bike is so old only one dealer has a tech that will work on oil heads or air heads.
Ducati is even further away and their service department is suspect from more than one report I’ve heard.
Beamers are just the most trustworthy European company over the whole spectrum in the USA right now.
20 miles away though, Harley and all the Japanese bikes on one compound. So it’s not simply about which bike is “best”
@@justiceequity9648 Was wondering the same, why do you need a dealer or service places all places when the bike never need any service? a BMW maybe need it i never have needed one for my Ducati i only need it for service nothing else.
I would probably want the Ducati more, but would defiantly buy the GS in Triple Black, just because it is still the bike to beat. 🙌🏍
I'm 0:51 and I can tell you this is comparing apples to oranges. Aidan Eloff said it, sorta, better comparison is S100XR to new Multi
I agree. The Ducati 1260 Enduro would be a better comparison to the GS
I agree and also a 1260 will run the pants off of a GS on twisty roads.
I’ll be leaving BMW after many years for this Ducati V4S. Life is too short to be average.
You nailed it!!
Long time Multistrada owner here, moving in the opposite direction. I’m riding more than I used to, and for me the 1250 just feels better over days and days in the saddle.
I bet you went back 😂
If I had to choose a 500 lb bike to take into the dirt, it would be the BMW. But I don't really want to ride any 500 lb bike in the dirt. The Ducati is a sport touring bike in all but name, IMO, spoked 19" front wheel and semi knobby tires not withstanding.
Radar cruise control with blind spot detection? Jeez, I just turn my head and look?
Nice comparing and look at similarities and differences - Thanks for yet another good video
MY WIFE'S LOVER HAS THE DUCATI. SO I'M GOING TO GET A BIKE. AND A LOVER OF MY OWN!
Very good explanatory video, it helps to understand before paying a fortune for a motorcycle. Good continuation motobob.
Now that I've watched this all the way through, I wish you'd done a better, no not necessarily better, but I wish you had compared the different "tiers" of each bike to each other. Like the highest spec'd GS to the highest spec'd Multi. This would have been easier to follow the pricing comparisons as a viewer. Just more of a suggestions I guess for the next time you do a comparison vid like this.
BMW, at least in the US, has a stop sale on bikes with the Hayes brake calipers. There’s a fix in the works, but it’s killing the dealers with leftover 2020 stock that they can’t sell. BMW will eventually put on Brembo calipers and hopefully soon for their dealers. Looks like Ducati has BMW on the tech side, but maybe BMW has the reliability with a proven design. Posted from a R1200GS Rallye owner...with Brembo brakes.😀
On paper v4 multistrada looks great BUT if you're a person who doesn't chop his bikes in on pcp every few yrs I'd be worried about build quality, there is a guy on UA-cam who has put 22k miles on a panagale in 2yrs 😮forks needed replacing! As well as engine oil leaks and head bearings plus a few other build issues ,that was in the United States not cold salt ridden UK ,too many expensive parts to go wrong and Italian build quality means a no from me .
I am one in millions but my money would go to the GS any day of the week for two reasons, one built quality and two torque.
Personally for me GS every time, wife (pillion) said ducati too much vibration, who am I to argue. September changed from 1200gs to the 1250GS what a bike 👍👍
The new V4 has less vibrations than a GS
How about your rear brake, your front calippers, spokes (if you have spoke wheels). From my point of view, some parts on the BMW are an issue.
I will test a V4S in the new year but it would have to be a brilliant all-rounder to displace my R1250GS.
One issue not mentioned in your comparison is the fuel consumption. I know it's not a big deal for many, but if you are doing high mileages, the BMW is likely to be 25% more fuel efficient, which will be noticeable both in terms of range and cost.
maybe this comparison made sense a few years ago (or more) but now they are diverging in many ways. the GS, it has a legacy but Multistrada is still looking for a character for itself.
I'm more biased towards Ducati because I currently own a M1200! But for value, it's the GS!
Multistrada V4 S is a game changer.
İt is very true because it should be compared with 4 cylinder bikes not 2
Another great comparison video. I would have to go with the Ducati for the edger looks and performance. It would be the ideal bike of choice darting down the canyons or summiting Pikes Peak on weekends.
Awesome review Bob! I’m still not entirely convinced on the adaptive cruise control on a bike. I do however love it on my cars and wouldn’t buy another car without it! Call me a bit old fashioned when it comes to two wheels as I remember when ABS first became available on some bikes in the very early 90’s. Wasn’t a fan of it then however with today’s tech I possibly wouldn’t want a bike without it. I’ll just need to test ride both, back to back to make my own mind up! Thanks for the review and keep up the great work you do! 👍😎🇦🇺
That being said I also grew up in an environment where in cricket language, if a batsman, took their mark, and was wearing a helmet then all that gave a pace bowler (like myself in the late 80’s) a target to hit! Obviously, now it’s a safety requirement for he very obvious reasons...
My biggest curiosity is the reliability. I've had a brand new Aprilia for the past year that has been giving me a huge headache so I am a bit apprehensive about Euro bikes
New subscriber here from the Philippines! Nice content Motobob! Good Job!
Since I've been studying with this type of bike for a while to choose which bike is suited for my ridding style. So last week I end up and bought the Ducati Multistrada V4S. GS and V4S both are great bikes though.
If you look at used bike ads you'll see Ducati's with very low kms / mileage and the Bmw boxers with over 160k kms / 100k miles.....that should tell you everything....
Low rpm torque, shaft drive and easy to maintain boxer engine is a no brainer.
Don't get me wrong, i love Ducati's too but as a second bike, so a streetfighter V4 or Panigale V2 / V4 makes a lot more sense
Ktm 1290 adventure has a wonderful engine
I have owned both with 35k valve checks and 10k oil intervals the Ducati V4 is an less expensive to maintain. The build quality of the Ducati is better.
FYI: If you’re under 6’ with a 32” inseam get the Ducati Multistrada! If you’re 5’ 11.5” and have a 34” inseam get the BMW GS! Ergonomics are king 👑!!! Also consider what dealership for Service 🔧 is closest to your home base.
5’11” with two inches more leg? Interesting
Ducati dealer network is for smaller than BMW but the far longer service interval of the Multistrada nails it for me as the better choice. Yes the range is less than the BMW, but an extra tank can easily be fitted to the bike.
I had the GS 1250 std from Jan. 2021 up to Oct. 2021 almost 12K km. Great motorbike. I am now with the Multistrada V4S that is more funny motorbike. Both are excellent motorbike. It depends what are you looking for and who you are as rider
I have a 1250 gsa amazing bike. Show the Ducati a few winters and watch it fall apart, then there's the resale value, the big gs hardly looses and money.
Biggest advantage,next to simply great driving performance of the bmw is, that it does not burn your balls riding it.
I laughed hard at that 1250GS being ridden like a motocross bike in the dirt. I can imagine all the middle-aged dentists drooling over their espressos as they imagined themselves doing this once they bought one.
You obviously know nothing
Good one!🤣
You certainly have no clue LOL! , this bike excels doing off road shit. Don´t be jealous dude, sell your Harley dinosaur and get yourself a GS XD!!!
I've ridden in the dirt since I was 12 - now I'm nearly 60 and still run in the dirt. You know little to nothing about enthusiast motorcyclists.
@@chrisberardi2304 I know who buys these GS bikes though. And 1 in 50 of them are off-roaders, at most.
The BIG drawback of the Multistrada is the size of fuel tank (i.e., Range}. You only get about 200 miles on a tank of gas with the Multistrada; whereas, I have been getting over 300 miles on my BMW GSA. Long range is absolutely critical for me since I ride all over the US. You can go on backroads in Texas and not see a gas station for over 200 miles. I plan a trip to Alaska from South Florida this summer. The low range on the MS is basically preventing me from even considering a MS on that trip. Without a large tank option, it makes the MS a non-starter. Finally, I have many motorcycles - and would love to acquire the new MS V4 for performance, etc ...(selling the BMW and replacing with MS V4, but now I see that is not an option.
I've got a GS bought second hand and love the torque on low rpm. But the Multistrada V4S seems to become a competitor for the GS despite of the high price. One thing: I think almost no one buys a GS without extras and so almost no one will buy just a bare V4... It just makes no sense.
Do you need 170+bhp in an adventure bike, or is it just a fast upright tourer trying to pass itself off as one. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful but who's going to be fully trusting in an italian thoroughbred. ACC is starting to turn up on many new bikes and I would be interested to see how well it works on a bike. Anyone who's used it in a car will know how fast poo can leave your body when a rep without warning dumps his car right into the gap between you and the car infront or the ACC picks up a car in the next lane and go's into collision avoidance and slams everything on without warning. In a car it shits you up, on a bike, well I can see it spitting you off if you're not ready for it.
Which would I have? Well, neither. But if I had to choose it would be the Ducati because everyone goes for the GS and I like to be different. The blind spot warning is great though and one piece of tech I actually think is useful!
If you did your”lifesavers” then you wouldn’t need blind spot warning.
@@leighchapman935 yes, but which is safer when travelling at 70 mph, looking behind you or looking in front of you? Doing a lifesaver is travelling 50 meters not looking where your going!
Comparing by the books is not enough,circle around the world is the best comparison.
I'd get in my garage tomorrow and rebuild my XR650. Pop a 3rd gear wheelie too for good measure. Different bikes for different times...
I’ll take torque any day!💪🏼😎
That's, that's not how that works
If this is an adventure bike, I might as well say the S1000XR is also an adventure 😅
Does the S1000XR have spoked wheels, or a 19" front wheel? No? The new V4 Multi does, which is why it's now being compared to the GS instead of the XR.
@@JJAhern It’s not the wheels that make the bike an adventure. My statement is more in line with the design considerations, like what are the safety factors, how rigerous was the off-road testing and what happens when you drop it - will you be able to ride it home? Will the engine run on poor fuel?
I understand what you’re trying to say. ADV’s range from 250 4 strokes to 1290 adventure R’s. What is considered an adventure differs from one person to the next. As I see it, Ducati took a road-based platform, put spoke wheels on it, tuned the suspension and modified the traction control. They will sell it as an adventure knowing it’s going to ride tar 95% of the time. I don’t believe it can compete with purpose build offerings like the R1200GS or 1290 Adventure R in an off-road environment
Very good overview from these 2 bikes , i drive the gs Adventure, but i will Test the Multi
Trying to determine which bike is better from specs, is like tasting food from reading the recipe. I do like you motobob and I am a subscriber to your channel but videos like this are only good for filling digital space!
The new Multistrada does look very nice and will no doubt perform very well, but for what these bikes are intended, I simply would not consider anything chain driven. I've had chain and shaft drive bikes and used both for long distance touring and no question in my mind. HAS to be shaft and in this comparison, that makes it the GS. Which also happens to be a great bike, so no loss there.
So you think the shaft is better? i have used a chain driven mc for 20 years and have never had any issues with the chain and the shaft if it get broken it will cost a fortune to replace and it can't be repaired in a tour off nowhere if some goes wrong, chain can easly be fixed not a chaft, also a chain driven mc is lighter.
@@eddale5557 I have never heard of a shaft 'breaking', but I've been riding motorcycles now for over 50 years and I'm fed up with adjusting and lubricating chains and always having to clean the entire back of the bike which gets covered in filth due to 'fling' of lubricant from the chain. Yes lubes are better now than they were, but I have bikes with chain and some with shaft and I've had bikes with belt drive and it is an indisputable fact that the back end of a chain drive bike gets dirty in a way the others do not.
I'm fully aware that a chain is more efficient and makes sense for racing etc, but I no longer want anything to do with them. Well, I do still have some chain drive bikes, but I wouldn't consider another one for the aforementioned reasons and certainly not for any long distance touring where there's no question a chain represents a far greater maintenance requirement and potential source of failure than a shaft.
I know others have no problem dealing with the issues a chain brings, but not for me, not on an 'adventure' bike like the Multistrada and GS etc. There is simply no way I'd contemplate a world tour having to rely on a chain.
After wreaking havoc on the streets with my 2019 Ducati Hypermotard 950 SP for going on 2 years, I'm getting the religion. My 2001 R 1150 GS is about to get put out to pasture. Viva Italia!!
I'll take the one without all the gizmos, but a good lowering kit.
I’ve had 3 gsa’s and now on the multi v4s which is brilliant and crucially very different. On balance the v4s is a more involving fun bike and omg it’s fast!
I love them both, but I'll take the GS.
GSA all the way! Don't require the extra horses, but the Ducati does look really nice. Can I please have one of each for chrissy Santa?
The Ducati Multistrada V4S for me. That’s why I bought one. Incredible machine.
Wonderful!! Very well indicated tech changes in comparison to previous models🙌 At least for me as an old Ducati owner, these changes do sound great news and specs are maybe a bit more for Ducati’s advantage although no big differences really between these two, marvellous bikes!
It would be good to compare the fuel economy of both bikes. I'm betting the BMW has a much greater range.
Maybe V4 Multistrada vs. S1000XR?
WAY WAY WAY too heavy. ADV bike, keep it light, keep it capable offroad, truly not just marketing, and get rid of ALL the unnecessary tech which just make them expensive and more unreliable.. otherwise, they are just heavy highway cruisers with offroad paintjobs not a pure ADV bike.
You mean keep it KTM 890 adventure? 😂
Italian style and tech
It seems to be taking bike manufacturers a long time to adopt the tech for adaptive cruise control and especially blindspot monitoring. Am I missing something, the tech has been about for years.
Looked at both and bought the new Triumph Tiger🤣 I would go for the Ducati for out-and-out performance or the GS for Swiss Army Knive abilities and that low down Boxer stability. Both are amazing and amazingly expensive. Just wondering if we ever need 170HP in the real world.
Hi, which Tiger did you get? The 900 Rally Pro? I'm looking at that bike and many others. Any comments would be appreciated! Thanks
@@greg9076 Hi, I had the GT Pro and really liked it a lot. I sold it because it didn't really correspond to my current riding needs (a lot of city commuting and some weekend jaunts in the Paris region. I since bought an Aprilia Tuono 660 and love it but it is a completely different bike. If you have any questions about the Tiger, I'm happy to reply.
@@tonydare7614 OK, thanks. I had a 2016 RSV4R. Hit a deer doing 45mph; didn't go down somehow! Aprilia was terrible about getting me replacement parts (like 7 months) so I sold it. Great bike though.
@@greg9076 don't get many deer in Paris 🤣just trying to avoid the cars, scooters, bicycles, electric devices of all kinds, pedestrians, etc. Take care and ride safe
@@tonydare7614 I did that in LA for years too. Thanks
I one an 2020 R1250 GS Adventure.
I really like it.
Thad radar system ion the Ducati s quite nice though
A guy I spoke to in a BMW showroom pre Covid said ( and he owns a GS ) that GS's are like pubic hair = everyones got them !! that said they are a great bike.
Tough call. TBH all this tech is a bit off putting for me on the other hand it’s exciting; reliability being my main concern, based on experience, a certain Austrian manufacture. Guess I’ll hold out to see how reliable they are, I’d lean towards the Strada personally but like I say it’s a close call and very subjective like all things. Wouldn’t knock anyone’s choice of bike.
both are great!! so I choosed vstrom XT 1050
Wise man
@KTMARV 1 yes but I mainly ride on roads ,no off road
BMW 1250 GS vs KTM1290.
BMW X1000XR vs MULTISTRAD V4 vs KTM SUPER DUKE GT.
Having had and loved two Honda VFR750's I do like a V4 so would love to try this Ducati even if it is expensive. I have a GS1200LC basic model without all the electronic stuff and I really love riding it so it would be interesting to try out the Ducati in S model form.
Finally a bike as capable as a GS but with a nicer engine and attractive to look at!
GS any day over Ducati. Even though it’s a gorgeous bike. I am just a BMW fan for life. Always BMW!
wow.....multistrada !!! Thanks for sharing....
Finally .....i grabbed your channel ! My favourite channel now is MOTOBOB beside channel Chegu Ajak.
If it's anything like my 2015 1200S, it's a POS: lousy suspension (wants to do tank slappies all the time) dangerous throttle maps (any old lady in a Prius can out drag you at the lights) unintended acceleration in first and second gear (usually there is no power in these gears, then suddenly it's full blast for no reason) most parts are made out of cocoa tin; I did an oil change at 5,000 miles - there was a pile of metal on the magnetic drain plug - the longest piece 3/16 inch.
I have tried to leave the shift cam boxer. But damn, as soon as I do, everything else seems like it is weak down low and has to be rung out. 1290 ktm , face ripper , but not until you get up in the tach… and just not as smooth.
I just bought the Multi and I love it.