UNDER 1 MINUTE: DemoACTUAL SAFE LINE: ua-cam.com/users/shortstmw8a1rR7rw Thanks for reading comments. Snake Eyes Safe Line: Just make Dispater immedately with Jet to Formula and Flamberge. so you can eat 1 negate. Get back Oak, Ash, Jet, into I:P into Promethean. Revive Omega, Rip another card. Bring back Oak, to Make Flamberge get back I:P in the Back.
On the Melodious Fusion that can't be negated ironically enough while it protects from Ash, it will still be negated by Veiler and Imperm on the summon effect. This happens because as CL2 Veiler/Imperm will negate this card's effects along with the protection, then on the resolution of CL1 the trigger effect will also be negated since it's no longer protected.
@@ChristosEglezos-nr9js the summon is successful. Veiler/Imperm/Skill Drain negate the faceup card, so every one of its effects (including the protection) Meanwhile a card like Ash Blossom negate the specific activated EFFECT (not card itself) so the protection is still live to prevent that. However, negating the activation of the effect would still bypass the protection, for example Apollousa works since the effect never activated to get said protection
Voicless Melodious is weak because a Droll kill you, a Nibiru kill you in the summon I:P, the Abystials banish the pendulum cards in GY for the solid combo... Pure Melodius you can do 100 diferents combos for a final board anti-target, anti-destroy, return all the cards and banish with Chuberta
For the VV combo could also Synchro with Trias and Lo into Chaos Angel, use Bacha as the ritual material and bring back the Lo to chainblock the Skull Guardian. You lose a tiny bit of the protection however at this point you'll have already been susceptible to Ash, Belle, Mourner, DD crow and more, plus now you have apollousa, so unless they've been holding a single Imperm for SG or 2x Veiler, you're free to combo off. End board looks identical except you have Chaos Angel instead of Bacha.
Why not just do the vortex combo? Less bricks in the deck and you can still make an apo. What’s cool about absolute dragon and vortex is it’s still accessible through the voiceless engine with rank 7 access and pendulumgraph being able to summon vortex so all the pieces are already there. The nemeses cards just seem like they’ll brick you super hard.
I would never send my Field spell for any Snake-Eye combo unless getting hand trapped. There are ways to get to Omega Dispater without losing ur field..
Conversely, pure Melodious is also a fun time. Ostinato - fuse Bacha via sending Refrain & Aria Bacha special summons Shopina Shopina gets back Refrain Normal Summon Refrain and search Couplet Activate Couplet search effect to special summon Aria Link away Shopina and Bacha for Composer Composer effect (first chain Bacha) Special Shopina then Composer effect CL2 to summon Soprano and Elegy Couplet pendulum effect to search Concerto Fuse Soprano and Composer SS Schuberta from extra deck Shopina effect to get back Soprano from grave Activate Concerto fusing Soprano, Shopina and whatever Melodious you have on hand to summon Etoile. Schuberta (banish from grave on opponents turn) Aria/Elegy lock, Refrain and Etoile (non targeting quick effect removal) Just an insane end board and isn’t factoring in the potential back row or other interruptions you may have in your hand. Considering how horrible they were as an archetype, WHAT a turn around in fortunes!
anyone who wants to never worry about nib/fire (or w.e attribute you dont like) follow these steps -3 shs wakaushi -1 Soulhorns -1 big benkei -1 Denglong -1 fire yang zing -Cheofeng do regular SHS combo, search the horns, make the denglong, denglong cl1 wak cl2, add fire yangzing to hand, pen summon the fire yangzing and make cheofeng. Nib proof as its summon 5 and theyre locked out from using Light/fire effects if you dont wanna lock fire and rather have an omni negate, add in 1 zefra yang zing, Zefra devine strike, and remove fire yang zing for bian. summon denglong, add zefra to hand, send bian to grave, pend summon the zefra, add trap to hand, make chefeng and now opp is locked from earth/light effects and you have an omni negate facedown to deal with DRNM etc. -doesnt use normal summon -cannot summon more monsters with pen effect or risk of being nibbed. Nib Safe -always locks out light(nib, veiler, gamma, rabbit, lancea) -can lock out fire/earth/dark/wind also(fire lock sounds nice to me. Locks ash blossom, and all fire decks, lock out dark for branded ) -generic -downside youre adding 3-5 bricks(hand dependent as you can change the order of the combo. if you have bian in hand you send the zefra and make cheofeng without the omni negate)
Consider LEDE has not released yet and the banlist was dropped right before the YCS. It could be people were just too committed to their decks and didn't want to shake things up and did not have time to lab. Not saying that's entirely the case but it's just something to consider
Just as hitting floodgates was good for the health of the game, I also think hitting baronne and savage are good. I do wish they hit snake eyes a bit harder too. Though I will say that now people know what to expect, we probably need more time to adapt to baronne negates in the format, so it's possible snake eyes will change further. At this stage there's still hope the banlist changes the current meta. But long term I think I agree with most of the banlist
@10:40 you are playing hard into belle. Field is flam,jet,pop. Go right into formula. Get draw 1. Synchro into dis pater. Flam eff. Summon oak pop, oak bring back jet. Make I:p. Make promethean. Bring back oak. Oak send princess summon flamberg
Hey Tom, do you have a moment to answer a quick ruling question? I am getting mixed answers. Ruling question. Transaction rollback and welcome labrynth are in my graveyard. I activate transaction rollback to copy welcome labrynth. At resolution. Am I still locked to fiends until the end of the next turn?
@@WShoup9818Some time ago. Judges lounge told me something different. You are not locked cause the card says after this card resolves T rollback isnt this card
@@WShoup9818 While there is a dispute on EEV between OCG (always copying it) and TCG where some judges use the "after this CARD'S activation" to rule that Rollback can't copy it due to the mistranslation, I believe in OCG Welcome Labrynth isn't the same case and doesn't lock you into Fiends. Same thing on Master Duel. I'm 99% sure it doesn't lock you despite the lock being part of the effect because in every case it mentions that card's activation and not effect activation.
@@jangaman7823 their right I thought welcome said after this effect resolves not this card.( I don't play lab and all lab players I face just chaos angel or typon)
You simply need 3 Refrain 1 Couplet 1 Concerto 3 Ostinato 2 Bacha in the Extra With the VV (3 Lo, 3 Saffira, 1 Sauravis, 2 Guardian, 2 Ritual Sauravis, 3 Barrier, 1 Blessing, 2 Prayers, 1 Radiance, 3 Diviner and 1 Trias) and the Melodious Cards you are on 30 Cards and then Play 10 non engine like Handtraps and Boardbreakers
@@versatiletactician8449 couple is not a starter It searches a spell Trap if you control another melodious and she triggers only when she is searched an she is a lvl 5 so you can’t normal summon her and you only need 1 I would rather say she is the brick of the entire engine
@dragma3033 If I recall it's similar to how the Tenyi monsters can special themselves even when you control no monsters the wording seems to be similar in that if I control no other monsters I should be able to still add I'm gonna ask a judge later because I could be wrong
Him: "I couldnt think of a card to cut" Me: Hey trunade! Also that turn skip spell is pretty bad.... Its only live vs the mirror match.... Every other deck doesnt care about it. Just play heatwave
I thought the pure SE combo was wrong. When you brought back jet. I think your suppose to make formula, draw 1, then dis pater. Since you omega a card out of their hand dis pater now protects from nib. Bring back omega, rip another card. Use 2 for IP, then oak send IP for cost for the 2nd flamberge from deck. S/T IP with flamberge. Pass.
Why would you ever want to play all the melodious stuff with VV and then also play thunder dragon and protos? You re playing exodia deck at this point. Where are your handtraps? How do you play 2nd?
Because that’s all the melodious cards? Flag works naturally with trias And saffira. Even if I don’t see melodious, I can always protos…I still have 9 ht
UNDER 1 MINUTE: DemoACTUAL SAFE LINE: ua-cam.com/users/shortstmw8a1rR7rw
Thanks for reading comments. Snake Eyes Safe Line:
Just make Dispater immedately with Jet to Formula and Flamberge. so you can eat 1 negate.
Get back Oak, Ash, Jet, into I:P into Promethean. Revive Omega, Rip another card.
Bring back Oak, to Make Flamberge get back I:P in the Back.
On the Melodious Fusion that can't be negated ironically enough while it protects from Ash, it will still be negated by Veiler and Imperm on the summon effect.
This happens because as CL2 Veiler/Imperm will negate this card's effects along with the protection, then on the resolution of CL1 the trigger effect will also be negated since it's no longer protected.
thanks for pointing this out.
Could u explain this a bit more ? I really dont understand why are u able to negate with veiler imperm? The summon is already done or not ?
@@ChristosEglezos-nr9js the summon is successful.
Veiler/Imperm/Skill Drain negate the faceup card, so every one of its effects (including the protection)
Meanwhile a card like Ash Blossom negate the specific activated EFFECT (not card itself) so the protection is still live to prevent that.
However, negating the activation of the effect would still bypass the protection, for example Apollousa works since the effect never activated to get said protection
Not Tombox searching for Trias and us casually seeing Protos in the VV deck 💀
Yah… you can protos…. In VV wish is pretty nasty
No cap i wanna see that melodious vv Profike asap i got a regional this weekend
Voicless Melodious is weak because a Droll kill you, a Nibiru kill you in the summon I:P, the Abystials banish the pendulum cards in GY for the solid combo...
Pure Melodius you can do 100 diferents combos for a final board anti-target, anti-destroy, return all the cards and banish with Chuberta
I love the Melodius Voiceless Voice Ostinato combo!
For the VV combo could also Synchro with Trias and Lo into Chaos Angel, use Bacha as the ritual material and bring back the Lo to chainblock the Skull Guardian. You lose a tiny bit of the protection however at this point you'll have already been susceptible to Ash, Belle, Mourner, DD crow and more, plus now you have apollousa, so unless they've been holding a single Imperm for SG or 2x Veiler, you're free to combo off. End board looks identical except you have Chaos Angel instead of Bacha.
Why not just do the vortex combo? Less bricks in the deck and you can still make an apo. What’s cool about absolute dragon and vortex is it’s still accessible through the voiceless engine with rank 7 access and pendulumgraph being able to summon vortex so all the pieces are already there. The nemeses cards just seem like they’ll brick you super hard.
Always Imperm/Veiler that Bacha, and if you can, Ash that Melodious Spell
I would never send my Field spell for any Snake-Eye combo unless getting hand trapped. There are ways to get to Omega Dispater without losing ur field..
If u don’t, from what I’ve seen you can but u don’t have the flamberge at the end
Conversely, pure Melodious is also a fun time.
Ostinato - fuse Bacha via sending Refrain & Aria
Bacha special summons Shopina
Shopina gets back Refrain
Normal Summon Refrain and search Couplet
Activate Couplet search effect to special summon Aria
Link away Shopina and Bacha for Composer
Composer effect (first chain Bacha)
Special Shopina then Composer effect CL2 to summon Soprano and Elegy
Couplet pendulum effect to search Concerto
Fuse Soprano and Composer
SS Schuberta from extra deck
Shopina effect to get back Soprano from grave
Activate Concerto fusing Soprano, Shopina and whatever Melodious you have on hand to summon Etoile.
Schuberta (banish from grave on opponents turn) Aria/Elegy lock, Refrain and Etoile (non targeting quick effect removal)
Just an insane end board and isn’t factoring in the potential back row or other interruptions you may have in your hand.
Considering how horrible they were as an archetype, WHAT a turn around in fortunes!
Ik it's meta stuff for the video, but, AG got new support that makes them better than ever.
anyone who wants to never worry about nib/fire (or w.e attribute you dont like) follow these steps
-3 shs wakaushi
-1 Soulhorns
-1 big benkei
-1 Denglong
-1 fire yang zing
-Cheofeng
do regular SHS combo, search the horns, make the denglong, denglong cl1 wak cl2, add fire yangzing to hand, pen summon the fire yangzing and make cheofeng.
Nib proof as its summon 5 and theyre locked out from using Light/fire effects
if you dont wanna lock fire and rather have an omni negate, add in 1 zefra yang zing, Zefra devine strike, and remove fire yang zing for bian. summon denglong, add zefra to hand, send bian to grave, pend summon the zefra, add trap to hand, make chefeng and now opp is locked from earth/light effects and you have an omni negate facedown to deal with DRNM etc.
-doesnt use normal summon
-cannot summon more monsters with pen effect or risk of being nibbed. Nib Safe
-always locks out light(nib, veiler, gamma, rabbit, lancea)
-can lock out fire/earth/dark/wind also(fire lock sounds nice to me. Locks ash blossom, and all fire decks, lock out dark for branded )
-generic
-downside youre adding 3-5 bricks(hand dependent as you can change the order of the combo. if you have bian in hand you send the zefra and make cheofeng without the omni negate)
Need that voiceless list
can you do a video about which cards and timing to handtraps all mneta decks?
Yes
You can also just make a 3 material Pair-a-Dice smasher with ostinarto. 😂
arguably better lol
The last ycs was a disaster😢 the ban list did so little.
Consider LEDE has not released yet and the banlist was dropped right before the YCS. It could be people were just too committed to their decks and didn't want to shake things up and did not have time to lab. Not saying that's entirely the case but it's just something to consider
Just as hitting floodgates was good for the health of the game, I also think hitting baronne and savage are good.
I do wish they hit snake eyes a bit harder too. Though I will say that now people know what to expect, we probably need more time to adapt to baronne negates in the format, so it's possible snake eyes will change further. At this stage there's still hope the banlist changes the current meta.
But long term I think I agree with most of the banlist
@@avatarmufasa3628 definitely. In master duel they did.
Will you do a new combo video for chimera with the new support?
The voiceless combo is cute but asking isn't there away to have end board of vortex and appo before getting to voiceless combo
Yes its evem better
Please we need that voiceless voice decklist and and rest of combo.
I think their are way to many bricks. It sounds good on paper but way to bricky (talking about the tdc and the protos package in vv)
3x parallel exceed is all you need to make a rank 4. Not sure what the purpose of all those melodious bricks are.
@10:40 you are playing hard into belle. Field is flam,jet,pop. Go right into formula. Get draw 1. Synchro into dis pater. Flam eff. Summon oak pop, oak bring back jet. Make I:p. Make promethean. Bring back oak. Oak send princess summon flamberg
Is there any DIABELLEZE combo with snake aeye that works cool?
Sonce Darkfluid negates monster effects during the battle phase, couldnt that work against the tenpai deck?
That cards gonna be a hard problem 😅
Hey Tom, do you have a moment to answer a quick ruling question? I am getting mixed answers.
Ruling question. Transaction rollback and welcome labrynth are in my graveyard. I activate transaction rollback to copy welcome labrynth. At resolution. Am I still locked to fiends until the end of the next turn?
Not tom but yes you are locked because it's part of the effect.
@@WShoup9818Some time ago. Judges lounge told me something different. You are not locked cause the card says after this card resolves
T rollback isnt this card
@@WShoup9818 While there is a dispute on EEV between OCG (always copying it) and TCG where some judges use the "after this CARD'S activation" to rule that Rollback can't copy it due to the mistranslation, I believe in OCG Welcome Labrynth isn't the same case and doesn't lock you into Fiends. Same thing on Master Duel.
I'm 99% sure it doesn't lock you despite the lock being part of the effect because in every case it mentions that card's activation and not effect activation.
@@jangaman7823 their right I thought welcome said after this effect resolves not this card.( I don't play lab and all lab players I face just chaos angel or typon)
Great, now Voiceless Voice is a 40 min combo deck. 😒
Pretty sure it doesn’t take 40 minutes to make apo,
@@MSTTV Pretty sure that's still too long to perform a combo.
Can we have a deck profile thanks
hello voiceless liste possible ?
I want the Melodius voiceless deck profile please
For the melodius voices nemesis deck can u send me a list? Or at least tell me the melodious ratios and the nemesis ratios?
Deck list for voiceless
Damnit, this is going to get Ostinato or Refrain limited/banned.
Hey man I'm gonna try to figure it out but can you post the decklist for the Voiceless Voice I like the idea
Yeah, show us the profile plz :( nice video!
You simply need
3 Refrain
1 Couplet
1 Concerto
3 Ostinato
2 Bacha in the Extra
With the VV (3 Lo, 3 Saffira, 1 Sauravis, 2 Guardian, 2 Ritual Sauravis, 3 Barrier, 1 Blessing, 2 Prayers, 1 Radiance, 3 Diviner and 1 Trias) and the Melodious Cards you are on 30 Cards and then Play 10 non engine like Handtraps and Boardbreakers
@dragma3033 I saw a second couplet plus it's a starter
@@versatiletactician8449 couple is not a starter
It searches a spell Trap if you control another melodious and she triggers only when she is searched an she is a lvl 5 so you can’t normal summon her and you only need 1
I would rather say she is the brick of the entire engine
@dragma3033 If I recall it's similar to how the Tenyi monsters can special themselves even when you control no monsters the wording seems to be similar in that if I control no other monsters I should be able to still add I'm gonna ask a judge later because I could be wrong
I’ll just play ancient gears & use Chaos Giant to counter Tenpai. Lol
Hi bro, please let's talk about the Swordsoul deck list and combo after the April banlist.😊😊
Only apollousa , skull, sp is devastating enough no need to play bricks in the deck .
Can you please stop hitting cards that hard on the board? They have feelings too 😢
Mine are all dead inside
Honestly though its really not that hard My mic is picking up anything that vibrates the tabe.
mine moan when i do
It's called anxiety
Msttv: *SLAP*
Decklist melodious voiceless??
Pls dont leak spicy chimera combos before the next tournament
Him: "I couldnt think of a card to cut"
Me: Hey trunade!
Also that turn skip spell is pretty bad.... Its only live vs the mirror match.... Every other deck doesnt care about it. Just play heatwave
No, the Melodious gui
I thought the pure SE combo was wrong. When you brought back jet. I think your suppose to make formula, draw 1, then dis pater. Since you omega a card out of their hand dis pater now protects from nib. Bring back omega, rip another card. Use 2 for IP, then oak send IP for cost for the 2nd flamberge from deck. S/T IP with flamberge. Pass.
ua-cam.com/users/shortstmw8a1rR7rw HERE!
@@MSTTV there we go! Bravo!
14:23.... Leaving flamberg in anima zone..... A shame
Where’s Yubel 😯
Can someone tell all molodius card mames please
Refrain, Couplet, Bacha, Ostinato, Melodious Concerto
Show us deck profile! :(
Next wee k once i finish tuning the deck!
@@MSTTV thank u! you re the best!
@@MSTTV will u do deck profile this week? I need it for 1 event :( ty!
Why would you ever want to play all the melodious stuff with VV and then also play thunder dragon and protos? You re playing exodia deck at this point. Where are your handtraps? How do you play 2nd?
Because that’s all the melodious cards?
Flag works naturally with trias And saffira.
Even if I don’t see melodious, I can always protos…I still have 9 ht
@MSTTV 9 hts is kinda scary to play vs current meta..i feel like 12 is mandatory
Day 341 of waiting for a new floow card.