"Shakes Are For Fakes. Eat Steak" Ft. Stan Efferding
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2018
- Stan "The White Rhino" Efferding, the world's strongest bodybuilder in the world, inventor of The Kooler and founder of The "Vertical Diet". From Ep. 38 of the Power Project: • Mark Bell's Power Proj...
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Shakes are for fakes unless it's Mark's Slingshot protein kept in Stan's Koller.
“Insert any catchy rhyme here” to sell your new diet plan.
This guy sounds like a car salesman screw that I like my protein shake
they are for chicken shakes??
Yessir
@@affordableaquariumservices1663 I think he's really saying just get most of your food from real stuff then throw a couple protein shakes in there if you got room
Shakes are for fakes... The cooler for your pre/post and intra shake needs.
Matt ?
Funny how that is eh, lol.
Post shakes he's okay with.
he just says dont drink a shake to replace a meal/dont think a shake is a meal.
not everyone can afford to ear red meat 5 meals a day
@@timstarkes173 red meat is pretty cheap
Stan is very intelligent, however the purpose of creatine isn’t intramuscular water retention, that’s just a side effect. The purpose of creatine is to fully saturate your creatine monophosphate stores which is the primary energy supplier for the creatine phosphate pathway, which is our bodies energy production pathway for short bursts of intense exercise.
You can't have that without the water retention, by definition.
Jewdo Hence he said it's a side effect. Intended purpose vs side effect. The point is salt does not achieve the same thing lol, which was implied in the vid.
My take on what he said was that you can get creatine from steak and therefore do not need to supplement creatine
There's also other benefits like myostatin inhibition.
Stan needs to narrate books. His voice is very zen. Love the Vertical Diet. I have been tweaking the rice amount to try to lean out more. But I never get sick of Monster Mash. Trying to fit more tomatoes in. ❤️❤️
"Shakes are for fakes"
"So how's your cooler that holds shakes going"
Yeah it has a side handle , it's rubber. Its beautiful.
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Interesting..
U can make homade shakes
Doesn't he sell and shaker cooler?
The Kooler is the World's only Kooler within a Kooler to keep all your pre, during, and post-workout drinks separated inside one ice-cold container.
Patrick G
K O O L E R
He's turning it into a pre, during, and post steak warmer
Hahaha great point I didn’t even think of that. Says shakes are for fakes, then screw shakes cuz he doesn’t get all the micro nutrients from shakes that he would get from steak. But he’s still a smart dude overall but that’s a serious contradiction.
Scott Tanner he’s just keeping it real here.
I've never had any stomach issues from protein powder.
I eat all red meat and salmon. However I do also have my shake because I like it. It breaks up the day, is very easy to digest, taste good when I add things to it and is a good source of protein that is very quick and convenient to prepare.
I agree. A shake with frozen fruit is excellent. 1serving of protein costs .50 cents. Super cheap.
Me too, I lift in my garage and like to make a shake with frozen fruit afterwards
Leo Harju - Great minds think alike. I also have my own gym.
i make shake with frozen shit
@@vikingstrongman5903 Less than a cent? What?
pretty smart guy I would say, but one thing: creatine is not only for water retention, but has the ability to bind a phosphate to ADP, forming ATP which can be used for energy again. So salt is not really a substitute for creatine
Salt combined with dextrose and fructose.
Bryan Scruggs that literally has nothing to do with the function of creative which is found in meats. Creative supplementation is to allow more creative phosphate to be readily accessible to help facilitate atp.
Michael Miranda you will never get enough creatine from meats to see benefits.
Thanks Highspeed but I never suggested you would.
Layton Boulton it takes about 900 grams of red meat to get 5grams of creatine (so like 2lbs), so larger guys with big appetites could get enough from steak
Just wanna say thanks to Stan for the great info! And to Mark for being a host
The Kooler... for all 3 of your pre, post, and during workout steak needs!
Tells people shakes are for fakes, but sells shaker bottles...
Don't drink the "kool aid" swim in it
Great stuff and great guys
I use creatine, salt, whey, iso and also casein + I eat steak sometime. I don't feel I have to choose
I started this diet and I feel fucking amazing... no more stomach problems lots of energy.
Dear Stan,
you sell a shaker cooler.
Axemanad good one, against shakes but sells a shake container to keep all your shakes cold. Haha
PREACH!!!!
It's really hard for me to hit protein macro in a cut without protein powder
Does anyone know what App it is that Stan Efferding is talking about? Like what is this compliance app's name?
he forgot to mention how he supps with gear.
doubanjiang When you break world records in powerlifting and claim an IFBB pro card by just taking gear then come talk.
The fact is that gear isn’t an end all be all solution. I have many friends using steroids that have never even benched 300 pounds or squat more than 315. Each discipline that you improve: sleep, training, food, and hormone optimization...will get you closer to achieving your goals and ultimately fulfilling your potential. Just optimizing hormones without having everything else dialed in will still leave you with mediocre results and make you look pathetic, even WITH using steroids. That’s the reality.
Alex Matis the roids made everything. stronger muscles, bones, tendons. recover faster, better growth. your friend on roids cant bench 300 then the nigga just weak ass beta male.
Your friends cant bench 300 on steroids? Then they're complete genetic failures. Cant squat 315 on roids? They should jump off a cliff, that is so pathetic. This dude takes roids, and doesn't know shit , and you all eat it up and pay him money to buy his products and buy his bullshit, Alex, you and your friends are pathetic morons
no need to mention it, everyone knows.
@@_winterhawk You offended, son? You are on that gear too, huh?
I like to eat red meat post workout with some eggs and butter is much tastier and makes me feel fuller, or if I preffer drinking a protein shake I do it with a2 full fat milk heavy weaping cream and the protein scoop.
Creatine is so cheap, why would you not supplement it? Lol You know how much damn meat you'd have to eat to match just a 5g serving of powder??? A DAY
2 lbs of beef will give you 5g of creatine. Since I eat 1 lbs a day I supplement 3g creatine pre-workout with 2g salt, that's literally $0.03 so it's a no-brainer for me.
Yeah, I take some before, during, and after my workouts. I don’t like doing it daily because it makes me thirsty
Leo Harju well it is creatine.. you are suppose to drink a bunch of water to get any real results. I don't like soda and I drink coffee sometimes (coffee dehydrates you though and does restrict bloodflow, look at the studies). So because I only really drink real orange juice with pulp like 1 cup with breakfast, and I drink water, I drink about 3.5L of water a day, most of it is drinken during my workout. It doesn't disrupt me, I feel stronger and more energetic day to day when I drink a lots of water
Uh no, coffee does infact not dehydrate you, caffeine is indeed a mild diuretic, but the net balance of water in coffee means coffee will hydrate you. Also caffeine is a vasodilator when received by type A1 adenosine receptors, but a vasoconstrictor when received by type A2 adenosine receptors.
Creatine does nothing for me. I've had more benefit simply from increasing sodium intake than creatine ever did for me.
I stopped taking protein about 5 years ago, starting eating more food proteins and gained 40 pounds of good weight
Lol had nothing to do with it chump
Get off shakes EXCEPT when you’re using the TrenboloneClenbuterol HGH Kooler (TM)
Now here we are in 2021 with steak shake
You can't have access to steak all the time.
bpi bulk muscle and it's epic gas effects brought me here.
Big up stan
It seems to me that these diets assume everybody's a millionaire willing to go broke over food. I live off of ground meat and tuna sometimes and I'm still getting stronger and in better shape. Multi-millionaire's creating diets with certain foods is great and all but if I eat steak over a shake regularly I might as well file for bankruptcy.
Love the rob mycintire
HELLL YAAAA
Most people, who will not be professional bodybuilders/athletes, don't have the time/money/desire to consume mass quantities of food.
Shakes are usually the better option in these instances - main meals of 'real food' with shakes during the day/before bed to top-up the protein count. That's where all of this stuff goes wrong. It's all geared to people giving everything to working out without taking into account family, careers or other hobbies. Just switches me off.
Bodybuilding is a selfish sport, first of all. If you're not training to be an elite lifter, then your goal should be to start utilizing as many as these takeaways as possible in your daily routine to maximize your success. There's a cost factor associated with everything in life, and this sport can be very expensive.
Not really, supps are way more expensive than a piece of meat.
And it's called planning, dude.
brandon18054 bruh, it depends on where you live meat where I live is expensive and is more than supps, whey protein jere is 30 dollars and it lasts me a month amd a 6 oz steak here is 20 to 25 dollars
Well said man
I’ll save you all a ton of money buying the vertical diet. Eat beef, rice, carrots and salmon. And drink tart as hell cranberry juice. In other words eat a bodybuilder diet that isn’t in contest prep mode. Eliminate wheat. All basic stuff.
Stan the man.
I recently discovered Stan and have been learning alot. My only issue is the cost of eating steak 3 times a day.
Very expensive
Substitute with high fat ground beef and eggs.😁
But I thought beef was a poor source of protien. Whey protein has more AAs...right?
Whey does have more of some of the amino acids required for muscle protein synthesis, leucin for example, but it doesn't really matter if your bolus is big enough. Mps starts once a threshold of leucin is passed (2.5g) and then you already basically get the maximum mps. More leucin won't really be of any benefit. Whey vs beef in term of AAs would only matter if you were to have very small portions.
Noo
I'm trying as hard as I can Mr. Efferding, but steak is expensive!!
I usually get ground chuck when it's on sale (which is thankfully fairly often) and use that instead of steak
You don't have to eat ribeyes, Chuck roast, or ground beef with plenty of fat can get you to your needed values.
I get used to call protein powder "farteïne"
The Starbucks cup on the desk somehow invalidates this message for me.
As long as he is paying then i am all for it!!
RHINOOOO!!!!!
Nice videos
Wow! Hes tense!
Shakes are good for convenience
Massive amount of broscience.
Hahahah fukn luv stan. Talofa Stan😊🤙
Stan: "Salt does the same thing as creatine"Me: *vigorously salts food*
Brandon hamilton he’s completely wrong on that, don’t listen to him. Salt cannot he consumed without potassium without upsetting blood pressure and your overall health. He doesn’t mention this so take his advice...with a pinch of salt. YEEEAHHHH
Damn his arms are huge
Pumpkin Seed protein is better than whey and won't irritate your stomach.
Make your own protein shake with almond milk and very soft boiled eggs(in 160°F water for 20 minutes). Blend for 2 minutes.👍
While im not disagreeing that real food is better than supplementation such as protein powder would a protein shake not be more beneficial for people who have full time jobs and can't always take time out to sit and eat a real meal as it saves them from having to miss out on "nutrition" completely and can act as an alternative to keep appetite sustained and metabolism turning over?
Joseph Viking O'Flanagan If you can't sit and eat a meal 3 times a day, you need to reevaluate your life decisions. I've never met anyone that busy in my life. Stop making excuses.
Ryan Turner I never said I don't have time to eat 3 meals a day at all??🤔 . You've completely misunderstood my comment and have just insulted me for the sake of it tbh. Not that it matters but I eat between 6 and 7 solid meals a day but shakes have helped me in the past for the reasons mentioned in my original comment, but you know what before I immerse myself in a pathetic online argument I'm going to call it a day there. Thanks for your input 👍
Don't even bother with this guy, he goes arround and personally attacks anyone questioning stan. And yes in the scenario of having a shake vs not eating anything, having a shake would be the better choice, if in line with your goals. There is nothing inherently wrong with having shakes but whole foods usualy provide a better nutrient profile (especially fats, fibers etc.)
Tell they to Brian Alsrhue. Maryland's strongest man, dude has a 710+ lb deadlift and is absolutely jacked..natural too. Drinks 3-4 shakes a day and just eats steak for dinner.
Did he say coffee as well
Just cause this guy gets gas from whey protein he thinks all of us gonna get gas from it lmao😂😂
Steak is a human right.
and a cow's death sentence
Runar Østhaug Cows are human too.
Im running for senate in 2018 on my beef entitlement program. BEEF SOCIALISM!!
Why does he take coffee out?
No clue still thinking maybe I think excessive use of stimulant ain't good
In another talk, he says it interferes with digestion. He's big on digestion and absorption of food.
Have a steak AND a shake! I just did.
you were in kuwait i live in kuwait
If you have a shake, use a kooler
Based
I'd love if any of these claims cited studies.
It's not that I don't believe Stan but it would be really helpful so I could go through the study.
If you listen to any of his videos he names most of the studies that he cites. Just go through all the videos and writings by him that you can find and you'll have all the names and studies you could ever want to read.
Ryan Elledge I've watched so many at this point and still haven't seen any citations :/
look at his biceps. study concluded
I miss the 50 gram slam bottle of predigested albumin protein from the late 90s. Silent violence all day long lol.
God dam it real food right babe.....yepppp
Mark Bell looks like a baby next to Stan Effernding.
No pasta? Dang
Stan drinks oj and spinache shakes twice a day lmao
Trenbologna sangy💪
3:12 Yeah in the USA people dont want the guy with brain but the one who can make it sound nice
I must be the unnorm. Cause my stomach is a tank. Nothing seems to bother me like that. Not that it won't change as I get older? Cause I'm sure it can. But shakes, greasy food, spicey food, it doesnt matter.
This is the norm. The exception might be people like Brian Shaw and Haftor etc. who have to pound down thousand of calories a day. Unless you have diagnosed IBS or a similar pathology you don't need to eat a restrictive diet. This guy has no medical or dietary education.
This is about the only aspect of the Vertical diet I disagree with. If you're getting over your RDA of all the nutrients beef is plentiful in and you don't have digestive issues from whey it has many advantages. Faster to prepare and consume, less fat, less expensive per gram of protein, more calcium, and aminos hit the blood stream quicker.
If shakes are for fakes why the kooler ?
Stake are for knuckleheads and people who dont care about ruin their body. Eat fish vegs and shakes sometimes
Kid ask how to gain weight at the gym I told him steak and eggs.
If you take shakes or creatine you’re a fake...but if you tren hard eat clen anavar give up, you can be a champion!
U need better mics love u videos but the volume always sucks hard to hear u guys
We can’t all afford steaks and red meat everyday we’re not all millionaires like u Stan.
Lost me at taking salt instead of creatine. Pretty uneducated.
It literally can't work for the human species. Creatine facilitates the recycling of adenosine triphosphate (ATP) by donating phosphate groups to adenosine diphosphate (ADP). Salt, as in sodium cloride (NaCl) can't phosporylate and can therefore not be a replacement for creatin. I'd love to know how this works for you. Maybe you should offer your body to a lab for some research because your claims are exeptional.
The amount of rareish beef most vertical-dieters eat probably provides them with sufficient creatine without supplementation. So supplementation wouldn’t lead to any noticeable effects (and perhaps additional salt might), hence the confusion
You have to eat a kilo of raw beef to get the amount of creatine contained in a teaspoon of monohydrate. It denatures with cooking. I seriously doubt they're eating enough beef to accomplish that. And creatine is a hell of a lot cheaper than buying that much beef to consume daily.
Efferding is just selling his own version of a semi-scientific fad diet. I agree that a little extra sodium can benefit high performance athletes, but a lot of his claims aren't exactly backed up by more than bro science.
DCJayhawk57 I take it you haven’t watched Brian Shaw’s videos then? 1kg easy, admittedly not all of it rare. Not sure what temp creatine denatures at?
Alex Browne creatine needs an acute high enough dose to cause maximum creatine stores in the muscle. A high meat diet would cause someone to have elevated creatine stores. However not to the level supplementing does. Sodium chlorides does not effect metabolism as creatine.
Salt has the same effect as creatine? This guy is unbelievable... Why does he feel the need to spout shit like this?
Yakushii literally take 10 seconds and google benefits of sodium in terms of body function. Appropriate Intake of sodium will outweigh the benefits of creatine by a mile and it's not even funny.
That implies salt and creatine exclude each other. No one is denying the use of Sodium, but Stan claims they have the same effect and that is false.
Ryan Turner no no no, sodium on its own is bad. It needs equal parts potassium, some calcium etc to actually do you some good. In short, drink mineral water or Powerade or any sports drink for hydration, don’t cover your food in salt.
David C Your diet covers all of that unless you're an idiot, which clearly you are. If you can sit here with a straight face and advocate drinking powerade over salting your food, you don't deserve the ability to comment on this topic lmao.
Ryan Turner let me emphasize it again because this misinformation will damage your health. Sodium on its own will do relatively little except increase your blood pressure. Powerade, lucozade , even mineral water or milk are better ways to get adequate sodium with the other minerals you need to take with it for better rehydration. You’re the one who thinks sodium is better than creatine when they both have different functions. And you’re the one who resorted to insults because your argument has no foundation. So what’s your reply going to be to this, more insults and “lmao”??
yeah eat steaks and take tons of gear - good for longevity.
I got triggered by the title, watch ronnie colemans day in the life and see how many scoops he has in his shakes haha
Hey guys I like your show. But hey me and a friend of mine came up with a Steak Shake. No just listen... I know you maybe throwing up right now at the thought of it but it's TRUE!!! I been out of the habit of eating red meats for about 20 years. I hated it!!! But he and I was experimenting one day and we came up with Steak Shake. Of course the Steak is not whole,it's puree to say the least w/o all the seasoning that causes HPB!!! We have been working on this for 3months. We have managed to come up with 3flavors(Chocolate, Vanilla,& Butternut squash). Delicious!!!! We are currently working on a Patent. We have two scientist involved from (Texas A&M and Unive of Phoenix). Wish us luck.
Mr UTubeCover Fan Fan no one wants your stupid shake or cares bout you and your opinion is totally irrelevant cause you are a pathetic nobody. wannabe...a failure without any achievements begging for money and attention on a youtube video
Lil B Press Fall back chump it was a joke anyways
Egg powders??? Whole, organic, farm raised, free ranged eggs make you fart bad gas too......
man the cooler is a joke that thing exists for ages go to amazon same price and you can fit in more than 1small shaker
Did he really said you dont need creatine if you use salt ? Lmfao. This Pro Bodybuilder doesnt even know how creatine works ?
Creatine supplementation wont work at all for a guy eating over a pound of meat a day.
Stan just comes off as a shister. Stan is a 180lbs without his roids
Fakes? While wearing a slingshot? Ok
Wait a sec, why disparage shakes, yet make a cooler that hold them??? Just saying. Stan is legit but......
there is no one trick deal- its a use it and review it program that i take- so far, low carb, high fat-pro and it works good- but it is a individual preference- beware the guy who pushes so much ona idea that he may have more involved than truth
I may be a fake and a lazy fucker, but shakes makes life much easier and enjoyable to me so who cares..
Wtf? Real food shakes are no fucking fakes.
Stan, what should I eat for breakfast?
Steak
How about lunch?
Steak
I see where this is headed.
Canned salmon smoothies are the way to go. 😁👍
If you’re trying to heal your body it’s best to avoid all meats and focus on consuming an organic plant based diet with plenty of healthy fats. The reason you want to avoid even healthy organic meat during the healing process is because all meat is Acidic and produces an inflammatory process which can disrupt any healing processes. If you’re already optimally healthy then it would be fine to consume meat occasionally such as once a week (grass fed) because they are some benefits to consuming meat. I dont think any normal person should consume the amounts Stan talks about.
If steak was cheaper I would eat
Stan looks blotted.
If you can’t afford steak, get ground sirloin. If you can’t afford ground Sirloin, well, get off your ass and get a part time job.
They both talk like they don't take "supplements" lol...
in all seriousness, if you wanna be good, you gotta have the shake WITH your steak
Steak is king period. Everyday. Supplementation of superfoods though are very important for maximum biological , physical , and mental function. Cleanse the blood and body. Balance the hormones, take in plant based superfoods with all your essential nutrients and eat a lot of steak and eggs and jasmine white rice. Stan is correct on all his rants that i have listened to and he has the trophies and records to prove it. I think the supplements he is referring to is synthetic garbage supplements that the body cant use much or break down. I use all of stans diet info along with my ZIJA supplements that are moringa based all natural products and at 49 the combination of what i have learned from stan along with my ZIJA supplements work better than ever for an older man like myself to keep my body, mind , growth , recovery, performance and overall radiant health and its best. If you think that stan doesnt know what he is talking about then your the idiot. Check his history and trophy case little boys. I myself have enjoyed his talks and understand clearly everything he talks about.
Nice curtains, rogan rip off