Update version 1.2: The right Powerful perk is no longer a viable option. In all cases you should pick the middle Powerful perk on your damage hero! Other: Bonus points to anyone that counts how many times I say "Unholy Storm" or "Dark"...
I was getting withdrawals without a new video and i woke up to this. Thank you Dark: 94, not counting in words like "darkness" Holy storm: 34, not counting in words like "storm"
Love everything you put out there, recently got rank 61 on Obelisk challenge level 10madness and its all thanks to you!! All of your videos have helped me understand so much more than what i thought was possible! I'm really looking forward to more. especially gustav!!!
Hello Decker! I was eagerly waiting for this video, so thank you. I wanted to ask you about something that you didn't talk about in the team synergy part of the video. There is in the game a perk that says "for every charge of poison on the enemy, reduce dark resistance by 0.3%" (which accumulates to -60% at max stacks). Therefore I built a team with Thuls instead of Nezglekt (Thuls - Malukah - Zek - Magnus), going the left side of the traits, grabbing a bunch of 0 cost poison cards like poison dart, and drawing lots of cards per turn with things like blue setup, overall just applying a lot of poison before Zek and Malukah go. The pros of this comp are: obviously more damage through lower dark resistances, poison damage if an enemy lives through their turn, and last but not least, we're opening up the door to Vile Gas (and Noxious Eruption although it costs 3), which both deal dark damage based on enemy's poison charges, as single target damage options. Also, the poison allows us to deal with enemies that are immune to dark. The cons, obviously, are that you're only running a half-healer, and if you don't find a Ying Yang Badge for the sanctify healing, you'll be running into survivability issues. Even with a Ying Yang Badge, you'd need to consistantly draw something like a carnage on Magnus or he won't be healing from sanctify. If we wanted to play with this idea in a safer way of course we could run Nezglekt and substitute Zek with Thuls, which should work, but why would we do that when Zek is already the perfect teammate for dark Malukah. Anyway, this is a long comment, I was thinking if you have time to play around with it, you could maybe give feedback since you have more game knowledge and experience, you might find a way to make the team viable on M16 (I've been up to M14, works fine throughout the game, the issue really is survivability on Archon). Maybe this also gives you ideas for a potential poison/dark Thuls video. Again, thank you for the great work! Recently I've been waking up to your videos every day and I'm looking forward to the next one.
Thank you so much! That us a great idea for when I do the Thuls build/guide. I need to play around more with Shadow (not just Dark) builds. I don't have much finesse with them because they have not been anywhere near viable in the past, Zek changes that a bit.
I have looked a little an making an obelisk guide, but haven't found a good layout or set of talking points I like yet. I will bump it up the list a bit.
Yeah good for you decker, your content has certainly helped me so I’ve tried to like every video I’ve watched and leave a comment. I am going to miss the no ads in the videos lol because ads suck but hey if you can get something out of them whatever.
I'd argue about shadow orb/cursed dagger choice for malukah. She typically has +3 dark from perks, so with dagger she applies extra 4. If you get shadow orb, you apply extra 2 charges 2 times, that's same 4 dark charges. But cursed dagger has +1 shadow dmg and works better when you get any bonus dark, from ring or levelup perk. So if you get corrupted shadow orb, it will be better than normal cursed dagger. If you think you gonna be against shielded enemies often, shadow orb is better. If you got bonus dark from anything, cursed dagger is a better option, and a better lategame in that sence. The dark one is not guaranteed, sadly, unless there's a quest line that allows her to get it.
Great breakdown! Definitely a lot of finesse to it, and you usually only have the option for one or the other. I think the biggest point I was trying to make is that if you have both Zek and Malukah, then aim for the Dagger on Zek and the Orb on Malukah. Your analysis is spot on!
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With DPS Malukah I love equiping the mythic mirror that duplicates (0 cost and vanish) the first card played each turn. You may guess which card that is.
One little nitpick: Vaccine doesn't give powerful, it gives Buffer. Otherwise, I'd like to quickly see the decks of the supports you're using with the character (You forgot Zek, which I presume was on a DPT build too since he had more damage) So far, you're the best content creator regarding AtO. Keep it up!
I'm not surprised that I misspoke on Vaccine; could you guess that I never run it? ;) Sorry that I skipped Zek's deck; it's the same Zek from the Zek guide in case you want a look at it. Overall I might have done better playing a little more into Shadow damage, but it really was just a test of the limits of Dark. Thanks and good luck!
I got the yin yang badge while playing a hybrid maluka when I was bad at the game. The sanctify stacks were huge and more than enough to completely heal everyone.
This was a really great guide! Malukah's quickly become one of my favorites alongside Sylvie and Thuls. I had a question though: I've been running Malukah as Insanity+Dark. I'm not sure how "on hit," works in this game, but I've had the best time with the Terror Ring, and eventually a Singing Sword. Could also rock a Megaphone. Although the duplicate spell and cost 0 is awesome as well. The ring opens up Pandemonium, Hallucination, Mind Blast, and Spectral Missiles. It seems to grossly inflate the dark applications. Hallucination for instance... Let's say it's +5 Insane and +5 Dark. It applies the +5 Dark, and then applies +10 Dark from the Insane charges (+5 Insane, with the +5 Dark Charge Bonuses), on top of Malukah's level 2 talent; and eventually on top of the Singing Sword on hit effect (Which would also apply ~7 Insane as Dark charges, that would then be boosted by +Dark Charges). Every spell has 3 applications of Dark happening. At least that's how it feels it's been working? Unfortunately it's possible that I just can't notice with how quickly the Dark charges explode.
I can't look at all the specifics right now, but singing sword does an extra instance of damage, so it notorious for triggering things an additional time. I'm not sure if it's working as you described, but the template on singing swird is fairly unique, where it has that additional damage part up top. I think there might only be 1-2 other items that do it (i think i went into detail on them in the dps gustav video?). The status effects can chain, if you have insane causes dark and on-hit insane, then that is basically another set of on-hit dark. Exploding dark charges is very satisfying gameplay! edit: oh, i think i just understoid part of the question. if you have +2 insane, +2 dark, and you apply 1 insane, then that should net you 5 dark. At least it worked that way once upon a time. that interaction has changed a few times over the years.
One thing you didn't talk about is decay - shadow res. It can be strange at glance, but against high shadow res and at last boss it allows much more dmg on boss, if you can spend 4 points on someone. It could be played on zek for curse of decay, since for 3 points you can apply 4 decay stacks that will also increase dmg of malukah's and nezglekt's dark explosions. Or you could run it on nezglekt for 3 decay charges.
You learn something new every day! I did not realize there was a Decay talent that affected Shadow resist, now I know. I still wouldn't run Decay on Malukah, she just doesn't have any good Decay cards imo. I would however run the Decay Talent and Curse on Zek for this team. (Probably only craft it in Act4 for the Archon fight. Thank you so much!
decker, any chance you will upload full runs? In theory and execution is very different and I would like to see your high madness runs, no matter how long they are. I couldn't last using the darkness team comp in madness 7~ish
Dark team is one of the weaker ones for sure, a bit of a struggle for me on M14+ with it as well. I will be uploading full runs soon, probably within the next week or so.
What do you think of pairing her with a poison scout (thuls or tank poison andrin?) The poison lowers dark resist perk really helps Malika and Zek in single target and she can add vile gas for the archon fight. If she gets the dark applies poison ring she can even contribute to stacking poison. It works great without restricted power, but I think the math justifies it even if poison is capped at 200 as that would be a 60% shadow resist reduction
Math checks out! It's probably something I should have mentioned with the synergy section, or for Archon. During the early game it would also be nice to have even small amounts of poison on the highest HP/Resist target.
Just a question, how come in the act 4 decklist you managed to get a 0 cost black hole? I’m not sure if you mentioned it anywhere but that does seem quite good
One of the Upgrades is 0 cost. I am sure it was just a combat reward from somewhere in Act 3. The faster you clear fights, the nicer stuff you get after. ;)
They are both very energy hungry. Cards to malukah for sure, then its a fight for energy. Default would be malukah for me, but I would try to find tune it between them.
Patch video releasing tomorrow. I don't think anything drastically changes. I haven't tested Decay change much, but still probably overpriced energy and perk to pull off.
so question how do u deal with a champion siren who does mass counterspell on act 2 on turn 2 and u litterly can do anything for 2 turns while you die random monsters seems to really turn the game into quite heavy rng guess what im trying to ask is do do u have some advice for playing with random monsters im getting my ass kicked by them and it really just feels like uncontroable rng garabage to me rn
Ah yes... Lana! Lana has been the bane of runs since the beginning. Some ways around her are: getting large quantities of Buffer up turn 1, Killing her turn 1 (or 2 before she acts), playing with a few more Dispel Magic because they are not spells (make sure they are the Dispel 3 version), and of course straight up avoiding her by pathing through the map differently. All Elite combats should show on the map before leaving town, allowing you to hover them and avoid the worst of the Elite's that your team can't handle well. Lana is notoriously a run ender. Hopefully that helps! Please let me know if you need more assistance with her. I personally think Random Combats + Elites is the most appealing part of Across the Obelisk. That said, don't be afraid to turn it off if it creates an unenjoyable game for you. I tend to find the most enjoyment at M12-14 myself, which still leaves a lot of room for customization.
Update version 1.2:
The right Powerful perk is no longer a viable option. In all cases you should pick the middle Powerful perk on your damage hero!
Other:
Bonus points to anyone that counts how many times I say "Unholy Storm" or "Dark"...
What about all the times you mistook 'buffer' for 'powerful' in the opening when talking about Vaccine?
Shh, we don't talk about -Bruno- Vaccine.
@@deckertech-aaron Then I *really* shouldn't tell anyone that Bruno joined Fight Club after he got a Vaccine?
Honey wake up new DeckerTech video just dropped
I was getting withdrawals without a new video and i woke up to this. Thank you
Dark: 94, not counting in words like "darkness"
Holy storm: 34, not counting in words like "storm"
Oh my... Almost broke 100 times saying dark.
Love everything you put out there, recently got rank 61 on Obelisk challenge level 10madness and its all thanks to you!! All of your videos have helped me understand so much more than what i thought was possible! I'm really looking forward to more. especially gustav!!!
Hello Decker!
I was eagerly waiting for this video, so thank you.
I wanted to ask you about something that you didn't talk about in the team synergy part of the video.
There is in the game a perk that says "for every charge of poison on the enemy, reduce dark resistance by 0.3%" (which accumulates to -60% at max stacks). Therefore I built a team with Thuls instead of Nezglekt (Thuls - Malukah - Zek - Magnus), going the left side of the traits, grabbing a bunch of 0 cost poison cards like poison dart, and drawing lots of cards per turn with things like blue setup, overall just applying a lot of poison before Zek and Malukah go.
The pros of this comp are: obviously more damage through lower dark resistances, poison damage if an enemy lives through their turn, and last but not least, we're opening up the door to Vile Gas (and Noxious Eruption although it costs 3), which both deal dark damage based on enemy's poison charges, as single target damage options. Also, the poison allows us to deal with enemies that are immune to dark.
The cons, obviously, are that you're only running a half-healer, and if you don't find a Ying Yang Badge for the sanctify healing, you'll be running into survivability issues. Even with a Ying Yang Badge, you'd need to consistantly draw something like a carnage on Magnus or he won't be healing from sanctify.
If we wanted to play with this idea in a safer way of course we could run Nezglekt and substitute Zek with Thuls, which should work, but why would we do that when Zek is already the perfect teammate for dark Malukah.
Anyway, this is a long comment, I was thinking if you have time to play around with it, you could maybe give feedback since you have more game knowledge and experience, you might find a way to make the team viable on M16 (I've been up to M14, works fine throughout the game, the issue really is survivability on Archon). Maybe this also gives you ideas for a potential poison/dark Thuls video.
Again, thank you for the great work! Recently I've been waking up to your videos every day and I'm looking forward to the next one.
Thank you so much! That us a great idea for when I do the Thuls build/guide. I need to play around more with Shadow (not just Dark) builds. I don't have much finesse with them because they have not been anywhere near viable in the past, Zek changes that a bit.
Love the vids man! Keep up the good work. An obelisk mode guide / tier list would be awesome.
I have looked a little an making an obelisk guide, but haven't found a good layout or set of talking points I like yet. I will bump it up the list a bit.
Yeah good for you decker, your content has certainly helped me so I’ve tried to like every video I’ve watched and leave a comment. I am going to miss the no ads in the videos lol because ads suck but hey if you can get something out of them whatever.
For now the ads will stay, but I am learning the UA-cam options and am really interested in finding alternatives to the ads.
I'd argue about shadow orb/cursed dagger choice for malukah. She typically has +3 dark from perks, so with dagger she applies extra 4. If you get shadow orb, you apply extra 2 charges 2 times, that's same 4 dark charges. But cursed dagger has +1 shadow dmg and works better when you get any bonus dark, from ring or levelup perk.
So if you get corrupted shadow orb, it will be better than normal cursed dagger. If you think you gonna be against shielded enemies often, shadow orb is better. If you got bonus dark from anything, cursed dagger is a better option, and a better lategame in that sence. The dark one is not guaranteed, sadly, unless there's a quest line that allows her to get it.
Great breakdown! Definitely a lot of finesse to it, and you usually only have the option for one or the other. I think the biggest point I was trying to make is that if you have both Zek and Malukah, then aim for the Dagger on Zek and the Orb on Malukah. Your analysis is spot on!
With DPS Malukah I love equiping the mythic mirror that duplicates (0 cost and vanish) the first card played each turn. You may guess which card that is.
Unholy Storm!!!! hahaha. That does sound pretty epic.
Thank you for the videos! I have learned a lot by watching.
One little nitpick: Vaccine doesn't give powerful, it gives Buffer. Otherwise, I'd like to quickly see the decks of the supports you're using with the character (You forgot Zek, which I presume was on a DPT build too since he had more damage)
So far, you're the best content creator regarding AtO. Keep it up!
I'm not surprised that I misspoke on Vaccine; could you guess that I never run it? ;)
Sorry that I skipped Zek's deck; it's the same Zek from the Zek guide in case you want a look at it. Overall I might have done better playing a little more into Shadow damage, but it really was just a test of the limits of Dark.
Thanks and good luck!
I got the yin yang badge while playing a hybrid maluka when I was bad at the game. The sanctify stacks were huge and more than enough to completely heal everyone.
This was a really great guide! Malukah's quickly become one of my favorites alongside Sylvie and Thuls. I had a question though:
I've been running Malukah as Insanity+Dark. I'm not sure how "on hit," works in this game, but I've had the best time with the Terror Ring, and eventually a Singing Sword. Could also rock a Megaphone. Although the duplicate spell and cost 0 is awesome as well. The ring opens up Pandemonium, Hallucination, Mind Blast, and Spectral Missiles. It seems to grossly inflate the dark applications. Hallucination for instance... Let's say it's +5 Insane and +5 Dark. It applies the +5 Dark, and then applies +10 Dark from the Insane charges (+5 Insane, with the +5 Dark Charge Bonuses), on top of Malukah's level 2 talent; and eventually on top of the Singing Sword on hit effect (Which would also apply ~7 Insane as Dark charges, that would then be boosted by +Dark Charges). Every spell has 3 applications of Dark happening. At least that's how it feels it's been working? Unfortunately it's possible that I just can't notice with how quickly the Dark charges explode.
I can't look at all the specifics right now, but singing sword does an extra instance of damage, so it notorious for triggering things an additional time. I'm not sure if it's working as you described, but the template on singing swird is fairly unique, where it has that additional damage part up top. I think there might only be 1-2 other items that do it (i think i went into detail on them in the dps gustav video?).
The status effects can chain, if you have insane causes dark and on-hit insane, then that is basically another set of on-hit dark.
Exploding dark charges is very satisfying gameplay!
edit:
oh, i think i just understoid part of the question. if you have +2 insane, +2 dark, and you apply 1 insane, then that should net you 5 dark. At least it worked that way once upon a time. that interaction has changed a few times over the years.
Really excellent guide.
Great video as always!
Thank you, too kind!
One thing you didn't talk about is decay - shadow res. It can be strange at glance, but against high shadow res and at last boss it allows much more dmg on boss, if you can spend 4 points on someone. It could be played on zek for curse of decay, since for 3 points you can apply 4 decay stacks that will also increase dmg of malukah's and nezglekt's dark explosions. Or you could run it on nezglekt for 3 decay charges.
You learn something new every day! I did not realize there was a Decay talent that affected Shadow resist, now I know. I still wouldn't run Decay on Malukah, she just doesn't have any good Decay cards imo. I would however run the Decay Talent and Curse on Zek for this team. (Probably only craft it in Act4 for the Archon fight.
Thank you so much!
decker, any chance you will upload full runs? In theory and execution is very different and I would like to see your high madness runs, no matter how long they are. I couldn't last using the darkness team comp in madness 7~ish
Dark team is one of the weaker ones for sure, a bit of a struggle for me on M14+ with it as well. I will be uploading full runs soon, probably within the next week or so.
Ty for your guide. Can you do a build for a tank? (not magnus)
Heiner is next in line. I will see about a Bree or Andrin tank guide after that.
What do you think of pairing her with a poison scout (thuls or tank poison andrin?) The poison lowers dark resist perk really helps Malika and Zek in single target and she can add vile gas for the archon fight. If she gets the dark applies poison ring she can even contribute to stacking poison. It works great without restricted power, but I think the math justifies it even if poison is capped at 200 as that would be a 60% shadow resist reduction
Math checks out! It's probably something I should have mentioned with the synergy section, or for Archon. During the early game it would also be nice to have even small amounts of poison on the highest HP/Resist target.
The thing is, i'm not sure if I should pick that card: unholy storm.
Is it good? It doesn't mention it anywhere in the video.
It's a shame you didn't tell what Zek's deck is, had to build him my way, went for endless abyss which was way too costly most of the times
It's the same run as my Zek Guide. Future Guides show the team's act 4 decks.
Just a question, how come in the act 4 decklist you managed to get a 0 cost black hole? I’m not sure if you mentioned it anywhere but that does seem quite good
One of the Upgrades is 0 cost. I am sure it was just a combat reward from somewhere in Act 3. The faster you clear fights, the nicer stuff you get after. ;)
What gives more xp? Combat or doing the events that skip combat.
usually combat. I am not 100% sure or versed in every combat VS event though.
Would you funnel cards/energy to malukah or zek if both are in the same comp?
They are both very energy hungry. Cards to malukah for sure, then its a fight for energy. Default would be malukah for me, but I would try to find tune it between them.
Hey Decker. Just want to ask if the new patch effects the perk choices in anyway? (and also with the rest of the team)
Patch video releasing tomorrow. I don't think anything drastically changes. I haven't tested Decay change much, but still probably overpriced energy and perk to pull off.
If you had two characters take the upgrade that gives you +25% dark explosion damage, do they stack? Do you end up with 50%?
No, it's just a checkbox for the effect. You would still only end up with +25%. (I say this without personally testing it).
so question how do u deal with a champion siren who does mass counterspell on act 2 on turn 2 and u litterly can do anything for 2 turns while you die random monsters seems to really turn the game into quite heavy rng guess what im trying to ask is do do u have some advice for playing with random monsters im getting my ass kicked by them and it really just feels like uncontroable rng garabage to me rn
Ah yes... Lana!
Lana has been the bane of runs since the beginning. Some ways around her are: getting large quantities of Buffer up turn 1, Killing her turn 1 (or 2 before she acts), playing with a few more Dispel Magic because they are not spells (make sure they are the Dispel 3 version), and of course straight up avoiding her by pathing through the map differently. All Elite combats should show on the map before leaving town, allowing you to hover them and avoid the worst of the Elite's that your team can't handle well. Lana is notoriously a run ender.
Hopefully that helps! Please let me know if you need more assistance with her.
I personally think Random Combats + Elites is the most appealing part of Across the Obelisk. That said, don't be afraid to turn it off if it creates an unenjoyable game for you. I tend to find the most enjoyment at M12-14 myself, which still leaves a lot of room for customization.
where is andrin :(
Andrin in the pipeline right now. Next set of videos.
How about profane for the purge?
In my experience purge is unreliable and overall not useful enough to warrant it's energy cost.
@@deckertech-aaron acknowledged. Thank you! When thorns gets stolen it makes the fight really annoying.