The Secrets Of The Sandringham Line!
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- The Sandringham Line Is A Beautiful And Traditional Part Of Melbourne Opening In Parts, With The Line Reaching Sandringham In 1867.
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Greetings! You should check out the history of Brighton Beach - it was the Terminus and the hotel there was a famous British style beach hotel (called the Terminus Hotel for many years). The 'other' beach baths (look very similar to the Middle Brighton Baths)were at the end of the track - and a enormous long pier. This pier was used by sailing ships to drop mail and first class passengers if they had a northerly wind which would mean many hours trying to beat up the bay to Port Melbourne. There was a tunnel under Beach Rd and a small steam train went out the pier to fetch mail/passengers. The tunnel entrance is still visible on the beach walk (it is an arched brick work). It was an extension of where the rail siding now exists. I lived a hundred metres from the station and can remember the baths (removed in the 1980's) and the decrepit pier.
10.53 Good On You For Mentioning The Sandringham To Black Rock Tramway That Closed In 1956 Picked Up A Booklet About It About 6 Months Ago!😀🚊🚋🏖️🌅
That was awesome. I travelled to school on the “red rattlers” on the Sandringham line. Those trains were so much fun, you could open the doors when travelling and hang out...not safe but a lot of fun
Absolutely love your passion for the trains at such a young age. reminds me of me when I started to love trains where I live in Sydney as early as age 12. Keep up the great work and keep pumping out those videos. Super stuff.
Thank you Stephen for such kind words, awesome to hear you enjoy the videos, hope you like more of my videos in the future, great to hear you had a passion from an early age as well, thanks again!
Loved trains since I was 2
Alex The Noobish Gamer Same here But 3
my children the same ilk. 5 generations of railway men. great great grandfather gave his life. and now look at Melbourne in 2020 .. total eclipse of the heart.
@@jesusislukeskywalker4294 same 5 generations of railway men, im the 5th ( i want to when i grow up) except for my great grandpa who fought in the ww2, my grandpa and dad drived trains until recently they retired, they are: grandpa: Barry Dunn. Dad: David Dunn. they say they know a lot of people in the train community, you might know any of them!
Great to see such a young bloke with a passion for history and a desire to advance public transport. Keep up the good work!
I love the system, hopefully I continue my passion, looking into he history across Victoria and Australia!
@@thetrainman548 Best wishes to you.
NICE ONE - I grew up in Brighton, having moved from the UK in the late 60s, so know the line well, but not its history. I’m now back in the UK - this keeps me in touch with my old stamping grounds
Hey mate, Idk if you will still read these comments but I would like to say great work!! I'm Brazilian and lived in Melbourne for 7 months and I miss the city and its train lines every single day, your videos transport me back to the city. The sandringham line was my favorite, I loved taking the train from balaclava until the end of the line and enjoying the beach at sandringhan which is my favorite place in the city. :))
I always read the comments Rafael, sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. I'm so happy that this video brings you back to one of the best cities in the world, I hope that I can continue doing this in the future :)
The good ol' Sandy line is my trainline...I remember those barrels of cash getting found at Balaclava, what a score! Thanks for sharing!
Top work. I used to live in Windsor for ages and I agree; it's a beautiful station. The spur remnants continue on to a linear reserve before Punt Rd but there's no sign beyond that.
Thank you for the extra information, I didn't go along the whole loop. I agree that Windsor it absolutely beautiful, glad you enjoyed the video!
The spur was home to the J515 storage and restoration in the late ‘70s before it was moved to Bayswater.
You can see the alignment in the property division, theres also Gladston park, which you can enter from Upton road. I think there a plaque, there used to be a siding in Union street where the park and commission flats are. .
Could not agree more Stephen. Yes he gets right into it and keeps your attention. Knows his stuff. It is great to see younger guys taking an interest in history, be it transport or anything really. I could tell more secrets than anyone about Brighton Beach station in particular on this line, being an ex VR person, but unfortunately it could be seen as inappropriate for this great channel. Let's just say the station was not a very nice place at times, after it closed for the day. On a lighter note I could tell some tales of when an old swing door electric set, and a Tait set as well, used to be stabled side by side for the weekend there every week night and all weekend. Trains are still stabled at Brighton Beach today, but under much better modern security.
Wow, interesting to hear about Brighton Beach, you couldn't really tell when I went there that it would be a dodgy station at night. I appreciate the support and kind words, hopefully you enjoy more of my videos in the future, thanks!
@@thetrainman548 It wasn't so much that it was dodgy as in unsafe at night, however there was a VR employee and historical enthusiast, who privately leased a small room at the station. It was what was going on there at times that was dodgy. On a brighter note, the swing door train that was regularly stabled at Brighton Beach was great for a nap after being at the Brighton Beach Hotel. You probably know that those trains had long bench seats in each compartment, and they were very comfortable as a bed. Best kept secret having a nap in those. Very safe. There was also a council first aid room, on the beachfront, (now demolished and has a railway mural installed there), where the entrance to the tunnel under the road was back in the day when they used to move goods under the road to the station from boats at a mini wharf which was there. The first aid room had a good bed, you needed a special key to get it, (which I had, legitimately too)..haha. But I never knew the historical background of the blocked off tunnel behind the first aid room at the time, and what it was used for. I have a picture of it when it was a tunnel when trams started running to Brighton Beach in early 1900's. You may have seen it, it is not hard to find on the net.
Excellent! This is a real contribution to the way viewers understand Melbourne Railway History. thank you!!
Thank you for the kind words, I'm hoping that I can teach people something every time they watch my videos, glad you think I am doing that, thanks!
In the mid ‘70s the Nepean Hwy was made into 4 lanes and it became necessary to lengthen the bridge at Gardenvale. I remember the scaffolding.
Another great video, enjoy watching them. When you finish the suburban lines there's thousands more Kilometers of country lines both active and disused with abandoned stations.
Agreed! Victoria has loads of track and abandoned lines and stations, I could make videos for a decade and still not get through it all! I will work through them in the future, but for now, thanks for the loyal support Steve!
I love your video mate, can’t wait for the Sunbury line video! :)
Thank you! The Western Lines will be featuring in videos very soon, thanks again!
You’re very welcome buddy!
Great to see this video. I worked at Nth Brighton. My best mate from primary school was at Brighton beach station and a mutual friend was at Middle Brighton. All at the same time. We had all all the Brighton stations. We were all train freaks too, although I was the only girl.
Another brilliant video Max. Although I have travelled on the line I never noticed what great architecture some of the stations like Windsor have, or that distinctive platform layout at Brighton Beach. Keep up the great work showing us all what we have missed! I guess the Covid 19 lockdown has played havoc with your plans for location filming and your video release schedule - such a shame.
Thanks again Barney, great to see you on many, if not all of my videos commenting, it means a lot.
Hopefully I can find a good schedule for filming soon, getting videos out weekly!
My ancestors settled in Cremorne and the Caringbush in 1849.
Great video. I grew up with Brighton Beach as my local station. This video has influenced me to return there and photograph it. Well done keep up the good work.
This is a great vid! It's very professional and entertaining!
Thank you! I'm glad you think it's professional, that's where I'm trying to get my videos to get to, along with some humour, thanks again!
Well presented with a friendly smile. A job well done. Keep up the good work.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the support
Great work Train Man, very enjoyable videos of Melbourne's train network and I really applaud your historical interest. If you come across any information about the old Hunt Club trains, it would be fascinating to find out more.
The old bus depot building seen in video beside the Sandringham station.
there was a siding at Windsor which was the stub of the line to St Kilda, in the late ‘70s J515 was stored there. Later the siding was replaced by housing.
Great work! well spoken great description of everything! The healsville and south gippsland line
Thank you Ricky! Both lines you have mentioned will have videos in the future!
Another informative video. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the Healesville & Warburton videos.
Thanks Dave, I am looking forward to the filming of those too, might be a long project though, thanks again!
After you've covered all the rail lines of all the big cities in Australia, please do Tokyo. Then we'll be watching this awesome channel til at least the next decade.
Haha, we shall move to Tokyo, Paris etc. when I run out in Melbourne and I will be making more videos for decades! Thanks for the support amd suggestion!
Agree! I lived in Tokyo for nine years and in that time two subway lines were built and opened, and there were constant upgrades to the main lines and major stations including a beautiful refurbishment of Tokyo Station,
Howdy Train Man. Awesome vids. I'm up to date with all your vids now, and loving them.
I'm looking forward to the Belgrave and Lilydale vids. And I'm interested in whether or not you'll include the Puffing Billy or the old Warburton and Healesville lines. Don't give it away tho. I'm happy to wait and see what you upload.
Cheers.
Thank you for the support! I think I will mention them in the video, giving a brief overview, but all 3 lines deserve their own videos, the Puffing Billy one will be special to me, my first train memory at the age of 3 :). Thanks again!
Awesome video, information/history wise, story telling, continuity and editing. A lot of work and time spent doing it. Thanks heaps for the effort you put in for us all.
Thank you David, I am trying to make my videos better and better for you guys, glad you see the effort, I appreciate it!
Windsor used to be home to the ARHS archives. I’m not sure if they are still there or not. Brighton Beach also had a small tramway for goods transhipment to a nearby pier. Also at Sandringham the bus depot which you can see from the platform is actually the old tramway depot.
Apparently they also occasionally run trains that run express from Sandringham to Elsternwick!
Also the refurbished Harris trains were only used on the Sandringham, St Kilda and Port Melbourne lines because of how they were the flattest lines on the network! Also with the additional weight from the new equipment the refurbished Harris trains were extremely underpowered with their original motors! :)
Another awesome video Train Man. Thanks for showcasing the line I grew up along. Can't wait for the next video
Glad you enjoyed this video in which I'm sure is one of you favourite lines in Melbourne, thanks Adam!
The Train Man it sure is
I Think A Lot Of Railway Station Buildings On The Sandringham Railway Line Would Be Heritage Listed Some Beautiful Stations North Brighton Ripponlea Middle Brighton Windsor And Brighton Beach In Particular!🙂🏚️🛤️
I broke my leg when i was 7 on the windsor station. I used to play around there as a kid bc my dad had a shop 5 shops away on chapel street Those steps at the back if you are coming from union street, if they are still there were very steep and i ran from the top, jumped and landed at the bottom, not realising how high that jump wpuld be.
Anyway, please do the Vlines if you have finished the metro trains. Different trains, lots of history.
Go on,
Please continue your work, well done.
Enjoying your videos. Hope too see Lilydale, Belgrave and Alamein videos soon.
Thank you Ben, happy to hear you are enjoying the videos! Those 3 videos should be coming soon, thanks again!
Hey Train Man, could you please do a video about Melbourne's first electric train service from Essendon to Elsternwick as my Grandfather was the first driver on this service.
Cheers.
Great video ✌
Thank you Bailey, happy to hear from you again!
Another fascinating doco about the history of the city I love - great work, bloke!
Haha, thanks again, I appreciate the support I get from you on several videos!
you did not mention that a V. R. bus service to Black Rock & Beaumaris replaced the trams & the buses were garaged in the old tram sheds off Bay Road beside the platforms.
Nice vid. But you missed something important. You missed that Brighton beach station actually has an underground tunnel that used to connect to a pier for moving freight and luggage. You can still see the sealed off beach side entrance.
I've since been informed of this by many people and I apologise for not including this in the video. I'll make sure to talk about it when I cover the street railway from St Kilda :)
Nice Mate!
Great to see the passion at such early age. My best wishes with video making !!
Thanks heaps mate, hopefully I can find time to make videos like these for years to come :)
I’m really enjoying your videos, great work buddy 👍 Bright future ahead of you!
Thank you Aaron, hopefully more to come!
You love to see it. Another vid from you. Sandy line has gotta be one of my favourites. Bit of variety around the place, with a decent amount of unique stations. Always have loved the Sandy line as a ‘nicer’ alternative to the Frankston line I reckon.
I agree with you there Ben, the line is very pretty, with some traditional, picturesque stations (Windsor) and some unique, out of place stations like Gardenvale (what a weird station!). Glad you liked the video, you are one of my best and loyal fans, I appreciate it!
The Train Man definitely. I always find that Gardenvale-Elsternwick stretch a bit weird, going from the odd temporary Gardenvale station buildings to the sort of trying to be modern style of Elsternwick if that makes sense 😂. Ripponlea is my pick for the best on the line. As for your videos, it’s a pleasure to be subscribed. There’s not too many UA-camrs with this content, and I’ve had a go before, but it’s nothing compared to what you do! Loving the little facts too. For example with Brighton Beach. I’ve been going there since I was two (14 years ago) and I never would’ve guessed that’s what the fence is for! It’s even in my profile picture!
Haha, didn't realise that your profile picture was Brighton Beach, and like your Demons video (although I am a Collingwood supporter, don't unsubscribe). I love how my channel is unique and that people are enjoying my vids more than I first anticipated. Your Ripponlea pick is a good one, definitely up there on my list as well, can't go past Windsor, for all the history and an abandoned staircase on platform 2 that I didn't mention. Thanks!
I recently discovered your channel and I've watched like eight of your videos so far. It's really interesting learning about the history of Melbourne's train lines.
Although, I'm mainly replying to this comment because I saw that you were also a Collingwood supporter. #GoPies
Love the video. Interesting history. I would image you will do a history for all melbourne train lines. Can you please do the Glen Waverly/Alemain/Belgrave and Lilydale lines?
Hey Benjamin, great to hear you enjoyed the videos. I will be doing all of the lines you have mentioned soon, I have actually already done a Glen Waverley Line one, not in the same format, but really cool video regardless
Brilliant again mate. Looking forward to Williamstown line in the future 👍
Thank you, your long time support means a lot, and I'll make sure there is a Williamstown Video soon, thanks again!
Well done young man,excellent job👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you David, glad you enjoyed :)
Just found your channel, Great, have subscribed.
The train entering Mid Brighton station is mirror imaged.
Great history, keep it up!
Thanks Peter, glad you're enjoying the channel! The videos come in mirrored, I then have to flip them, I forget sometimes haha, which is annoying for me and you guys.
Cool, but the tram used to run to Beaumaris. The old stable for the horses was located in the backyard of the house I grew up in. Hence a street with the name tramway Parade. The stable was of Oak Street, backing onto Scott Street.
will need to explore the beaumaris/ black rock etc. tramway one day :))
I remember that! When they found the money. I'd totally forgotten about it. I'd love to know how it got there - and what happened to those who kept it. Did it make their lives better etc, etc. A real "blast from the past"😸
If I ever get the time and chance to, I'd love to track down the people that found the stash and hear their story, such a fascinating piece of history!
Another informative and awesome video.
Thanks Stephen, appreciate it!
You should do a video on the rosstown railways as there aren’t many vids out there on UA-cam about !
Agreed, A Rosstown Railway Video will be done soon!
@@thetrainman548 have you done it yet.
There was a five track goods siding at Windsor station. Four tracks were removed in 1980. The last one was removed in 1986.
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Interesting information here, thanks for sharing! I visited the Windsor Loop Line not too long ago, and discussed this in an upcoming video 🙌👍
@@thetrainman548 Plus I only found out recently that there were two small fire wood sidings at Middle Brighton and one at North Brighton. Not sure when they were removed.
www.railpage.com.au/f-p1341318.htm
Proud to say my Grandfather on my fathers side was the first train driver on the electric trains in Melbourne ran from Essendon to Elsternwick......or was it Ascot Vale to Elsternwick?
Can somebody please confirm the exact route Melbourne's first electric train took?
I remember my father telling me about it in the 1970s.
right now I'm sitting here thinking how are you so smart. Hand him a medal and a payrise
5.00 A Lot Of Street Names In The St Kilda Area Named After Battles Or People Associated With The Crimean War! Carlisle Street Alma Road Raglan Street Etc!🙂
Love the videos, keep them coming!
How about the Mernda and Hurstbridge lines sometime? The Hurstbridge line in particular is quite an overlooked gem. :)
For sure! I should do the two lines in the next month or two, there are some pretty cool things about the lines. Thanks!
Great Stuff Train Man. Let’s hope you get 1k subs soon
We hit it! Glad you enjoyed!
8.56 Always Thought That Brighton Beach Railway Station Was The Closest Railway Station To The Beach I Know Aspendale Railway Station Is Quite Close To The Beach As I Live In The Area!🙂🏚️🛤️🚇🏖️⛱️🌅
congratulations on 1000 subscribers yaaaaaaaaa
Thank you 😁😁, hopefully big things to come!
These videos are awesome! I’m 20 now, but two years ago before I bought my first car, I was going along on trains and my goal was to visit every train station in Victoria. I managed to do almost 60%! I always wanted to make UA-cam videos but didn’t have the confidence! You are doing a awesome job 🎉🎉
Thank you Andrew, the support means a lot. One day, I hope to do a proper documentary and visit every station in Victoria, fair play to you though 60% is crazy good! Once you do a few videos, you gain the confidence and relax a little, you realise that no one really cares/ minds. I did some filming on my next video 10 months ago, and the difference between my confidence is crazy. Thanks again, hope to hear from you again in the future!
Can you make a video of the history of the Mornington Railway?
For sure, looking to do it in the summer!
Love this video mate
Great to hear Neil, thanks heaps!
Windsor is my local. I use it most days.
This may be a bit different than what you normally do but as soon as puffing billy reopens maybe it could be a good idea to do a video on that as an extension from Belgrave.
Great suggestion! I will definitely be doing a video on Puffing Billy and it's function when it first opened, thanks!
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Love the new video
Thank you, I appreciate it!
elsternwick also had a recent tech upgrade last year to the new platform-timetable signs and miki tap machines.
That is interesting, thank you for that information!
@@thetrainman548 Almost all stations on the Sandringham line have had screens and new myki readers added in the past year.
There's some exceptions, with Middle Brighton, Hampton and I think North Brighton(?) not having screens in the outbound direction. Also I believe Brighton Beach still uses the old myki readers.
Ive just discovered your channel and i love it. Thought I should also let you know that gardenvale station is also actually in brighton!
Also the reason for the massive curve at brighton beach station is because when the tracks were realigned for the line extension they needed to curve massively so as not to hit the beach.
That's a good point, didn't think about the beach being the reason! Lots of stations in Brighton, and more that have been named Brighton in the past. Glad to you like the channel, cheers!
2:05 say whatttt??? Next vid is Werribee/Williamstown? You’re going to the line west of the current line. Also interesting that platform 2 in Brighton Beach is staffed because of the gap, never ever knew that :O
I think thats right haha
It was not staffed though after 7 or 8pm back in the 70's. That gap was a legal minefield waiting to happen back then. Although not many people got on the trains there after that time anyway. When I was at VR we used to "blitz" that station for fare evasion occasionally after hours, so to speak. Most people using that station were honest, apart from the occasional grub going to the beach in the dark. Great line to work, great staff at stations, no mobile phones and people never over carried from their station. Now even with announcements, people miss their station due to being on mobile phones mainly. Too busy texting or watching movies. Soon they will want transport staff to tuck them in at night.
Haha, I had a laugh at your last sentence. It is a shame about devices, I personally have never missed my station, but I know a few people that have. Thanks for your stories on the 'blitz' great to hear your anecdotes, thanks again!
The site of the VR Cremorne substation was also the site of Melbourne's first asylum for the insane.
oh wow, that's interesting to know.
Your channel is growing fast. I was a subscriber before you became popular
I remember! I have grown a heap in the past fortnight, I appreciate the early support!
The Train Man yeah, it’s good to see your channel grow. It’s a great idea to be honest.
Love your work mate 👍👍
Thank you Oliver, glad you enjoyed!
will you remember me when you get 10 million subs
Only if I hit it, of course I will haha
Almost 1k subs!!!
We hit it Wenzel!
7.30 North Brighton Railway Station Close To Train World Shop Selling Model Railway Supplies And Train Books And DVDS!😀🚂🚆🚇🛤️💿📚
1k subs! You should make a video about your milestone
Haha, maybe, we will see (probably not though)
Ah found it :) Brilliant! :)
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@thetrainman548 I loved it very much :)
Great video, makes me want to visit this line and some of the stations. Would you have any interest in doing a series of videos covering old signal boxes in Melbourne?
I have a little bit of interest in the different signal boxes, however it isn't on the same level as my passion for the trains and what I am doing now. I appreciate the support and when I do a signal box video, I will make sure to contact you!
@@thetrainman548 no problem at all! I'm enjoying your videos, and this one has sparked some interest in finding out what happened in 1867. All I can find so far is that it was announced in the Argus the day before that 9 stations would be renamed. Possibly this had been planned since the Melbourne & Hobson's Bay Railway Company absorbed the two other railway companies in 1865, as the timing (1 January) seems as good a time as any to start afresh!
Very fascinating! Thank you for the information on the renaming, I find it amazing that 9 were renamed for the year. Thanks!
12 more subs till 1k! Nice video!
Thank you, we got the 1000 this morning, I appreciate the support🙌
These vids are great ... I’m massive Sydney Trains history buff - the Melbourne railways are a lot more extensive, and more ‘accidental’ fires 🤣
mmm, lots of 'accidents' in Melbourne haha. I hope to do videos on the Sydney System maybe next year, only ever ridden on your trains twice, and was already interested!
Sydney trains add bigger and more technologically advanced. DM when your doing a Sydney Trains vid markwilliamburgess@gmail.com
Will do, thank you!
Cool
Thanks Applehead!
More info on the Rosstown railway?
Yes Innis, the Rosstown Railway is in the list for filming, I have all the information ready, yet with such little evidence of the line today, it will be a hard video to film. However I'll figure it out and the railway will get a video in the future!
Love the vid , can you do a video on ‘the Ghan’. 💥😤👑🔥🐐👍
Of course sir Shooti Tooti, I will leave tomorrow
The Train Man 🙏🙏🙏
Remember Hearing The Story Of That Bag Of Money Found Underneath Balaclava Station Lucky Buggers!😒💰💵
Can you do secrets of the upfied
Of course, I have lots of videos planned, but I will be doing it soon, thanks for the suggestion!
Hey train man do you know what platform 1 at brighton beach is used for?
I am not familiar with the use of the platform, I don't even know if it is used, I will have a look and let you know if I can find anything
The Train Man actually I did a bit of research it is not being used atm as it has a big red fence that is fencing it off. But it would be interesting to find out why it became disused and what it was used for originally. Great videos by the way!!
Thank you! Interesting to see the platforms disuse, it doesn't seem to be needed, due to the fact that trains no longer terminate there.
Amazing video you do a get job keep it up
Thank you again! Nice to hear from you again, glad you liked it!
The Train Man you should do the Belgrave/ lilydale line
I should! I will look into it soon!
Hey I recently found your channel and I think you have done a great job with these videos. I did one myself on my local Seaford Line (Adelaide) but I thought it was so cringy that I didn't upload it. I'm glad you have been able to do all these videos. Are you a fan of Geoff Marshall by any chance?
Thank you Sormon, appreciate the support, and I think you should of uploaded you local line video, you shouldn't care too much about what others think, it gives you character :). I am a fan of Geoff Marshal, these secrets videos are inspired by him and I have watched a lot of his videos. Thanks again!
@@thetrainman548 Thats what I thought, as he inspired me. I do plan to upload a video of the new expansion they have done to the Tonsley line (extending it over the southern expressway to Flinders Uni). However thats still a few months off. Also our network is pretty barren (most platforms are just concrete slabs) nothing like the Melbourne network.
@@thetrainman548 In the mean time if your ever interested in Federal Politics you can check out my channel.
Watched one of your videos, pretty interesting, keep it up!
The train man, can you tell me what date is the secrets of the Werribee line going to be released
Most likely in 2-3 weeks, after St Kilda Line, and Williamstown Line videos. Thanks
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Thanks Maryann!
You sooo cool
You’re welcome
Did you know the Sandringham line was intended to be converted to light rail.. and the option is still there
im guessing you also know of the double decker that once ran in Melbourne I was lucky to ride it BUT in saying that I am also unlucky to have rode on it cos that now mean I am old lol ua-cam.com/video/Ze2ukvRRFGk/v-deo.html
when are you doing regional rail
Maybe as a long term project, those videos will take longer to film.
Oh I got
a question can you do secrets of the Werribee line
Of course, One of my next videos!
When the money at Balaclava was found, people from all over Melbourne came with shovels and dug up under the station.
Haha, wow! I don't blame them, but that must've looked weird if someone oblivious of the situation just walked past though!
The Train Man It was on the News
Yo 1k mate
Yes, very exciting, hope you like the videos!
Yeee nice
Thank you, glad you liked it!
The Train Man did a similar video to u but on buses
It looks like it’s in the 199s
I have old photos of puffing bully 1940