The Future of Starship Will Change Forever
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2024
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thanks for the clear and concise explanation
2:08 nice detail showing the wider gaps between heat sheild tiles at the tip of the nose cone and the flap joints
You are getting so much better at this Lewis. Concise well delivered information
Thank you Lab Padre for another great informative video!!!
More to come!
Thank you for this gorgeous video, both educational and inspirational.
You are so welcome!
Thank you, a great synopsis as always,excellent videos.
Thank you too!
Very awesome report thank you.
Our pleasure!
Thank you for the update. As always, very informative. I love them.
Glad you like them!
So epic! Thanks LabPadre...the future is exciting
Superb summary from our roving reporter LabPadre. Thanks.
SpaceX is the most exciting company in the world.
Good job, Lab. Keep 'em coming, please.
On it!
Lewis what an outstanding presentation..!! a thumbs up to the entire LabPadre staff .. Very well written and narrated. Very informative .. !! The LabPadre channel keeps on getting better and better Thanks Allen
Thanks for that!
Thanks, Lab.
It is amazing that you can see a video like this today that talks about realistic plans, on sight, that they don't sound like total science fiction anymore
very well explained, thank you.
Thank you for this episode, another great update, and thank you for all the live feeds and your hard work!!!.Any idea when R2 and VR return to previous position at D2, love to monitor arrivals
Not sure yet
Thanks, nice summary, all the best
Thank you too
Thank you!
You bet!
Awesome coverage! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Slick
I think most people dont understand the maaaaaaaaaaaaaassive undertaking needed to create an industrial base. The amount of planning, afterthought, work and people is staggering.
I think Starship will replace commercial airliners in the future. One time, there were ocean liners, then airliners, and now we’re living in the era of space liners.
6:50 but you forget that there is NASA research that we could live in floating cities (like Cloud City from Star wars) the gravitational pull is the same as earth in higher altitude, much better radiation protection compared to Mars, and you could theoretically live a long life in Venus. We shouldn't throw away any other opportunity to live in multiple different worlds.
great work
Thank you! Cheers!
Ganymede would be a better place to colonize. Its the only other celestial body with an active magnetosphere
Colonization is great, and all, but is only a small portion of what we will gain.
Many discoveries lead to incredible things unforeseen by the invention...
So, hopefully, we make discoveries that lead to unforeseen futures.
Also, Ganymede and other gas giant moons are much, much farther. DeltaV and trip length will be much more challenging.
On the other side, mars is half way to it. So having industrial base on Mars would be great for further expansion
I'm very excited for the upcoming changes.
However if SpaceX is planning to catch the boosters & the Ships. It makes no sense for V2 and V3 Starships to use the current style lifting holes/ports at all. The Starships can't hover long enough, as the current lifting points will take far too long to align during a catch. Even with the new locations shown in the rendering.
The Ships probably need lift arms possibly similar to the ones on boosters. However they should be designed to be retractable/fold into the side of the Ships
That being said I think it would be sad if SN15 was the last Starship to land on earth using legs. SN15 should have been preserved for history.
So I hope SpaceX eventually adds landing legs to the Starships and catches boosters. Once people are riding on Starships it would be a good idea to have the safety redundancy option of both landing legs and catching on the Ships incase there's a problem with one or the other system.
Another issue is Starships will need a very accurate attitude control system if they ever expect to do refueling and docking in space. Starship is massive, but will need to be capable of very fine precise maneuvering. There is no mention of this technology in V2 or V3 yet.
It will be interesting to see how SpaceX solves this.
because this is all make believe
@@jebes909090 Take your lithium.
@@smugfrog8111 sorry elon took it all
@@jebes909090 Let me guess.. You're a communist?
Don't forget the poles of Mercury. They've got water ice, metal, constant exposure to sunlight, and are surprisingly temperate. No dust storms, no winters, no weather. Mercury's low tilt means there are no seasons, so the temperature is constant. Only problem - it's harder to get to Mercury than Mars. It should be the next destination after Mars though.
Water ice on the poles of mercury?
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Yeah, in the craters. And way more of it than the moon
We need to save Mercury to take it apart in a few hundred years to build a Dyson swarm.
Oh no! The moon is vulnerable to attack from Earth!
Somebody tell me what music is playing, and/or where I can find it isolated. Thanks.
Galaxy Reborn - Mandala Dreams, Creatio Ex Nihilo - Ave Air, Cloudbursts - David Celeste, The Gordian Knot - Jakob Ahlbom
@@ItsLucid Thanks. It was the first one (Galaxy Reborn - Mandala Dreams). How does one even know this stuff?
Very Telomere-esque, or like Michael Stearns.
@@Asterra2 I am the editor 😄
I love seeing the shots of humans on the booster so you get an idea of scale. That’s a big boy!
thank you sir for your kind update. These projects and missions are so inspiring . Wonder what our kids will experience in the future
No need for an engine shield? What could possibly go wrong!
I can agree.
Nice encapsulation of Elon's presentation
Thanks for watching
Sounds good on paper. Not going to happen exactly the same.
Correct, which is insane because normal rocket development is not iterative like this.
It's interesting to see a hardware rich approach and very exciting
That just makes it more interesting.
I call not gonna happen anytime soon, if ever!! Not possible
It's easier to create a colony on Mars, but Venus is a much better option to actually terraform.
We just need lots of baking soda or sodium hydroxide to neutralize the acidity haha
The smart thing would be to do both.
As Elon Musk fan, I find myself fluctuating between moments of excitement over the Mars Mission, and time periods when I keep thinking it's completely nuts. That only a madman could thrust all his money into such endeavor. But do notice - it by itself confirms my experience that those who try to achieve some goal might never get it, yet they collect never achievable life goals of other people - the most obvious being, becoming very, very rich. Elon became the richest, without planning for it. But all his wealth will be used, you can also say "wasted", on a nonsensical goal of building a future on Mars. He doesn't want this money for himself to ake him happy; he needs it to ensure that human civilization never dies.
But you know what? When we think about how insane this lofty goal is, whe have blindfolds that project that future on what is now a reality. But at the time when Elon came with this plan, there wasn't the AGI. There were no funcional/ useable humanoid robots. There were not many things and concepts we can now use in further developing that idea.
The thought gets less idiotic when we imagine Mars being prepared by the multitude of humanoid robots.
But the funniest thing is that even Elon probably doesn't know what is on its way: we are quietly, in the shade from the fake media, becoming able to transmutate elements to whatever we wish, by using a relatively cheap and simple contraption, which could have been possibly known and used by some previous civilizations. The fact of finding the symbols needed for this technology in all ancient religions indicates that this was once known and used. So, with knowing this, I'm the less worried about the future existence on Mars in the first place.
On top of it, although the AI is amazingly smart, it wasn't able to invent anything that wasn't invented so far by humans. But this moment is inevitably coming, and when it does, we might learn there is even easier way to terraform Mars. We are so far unable to comprehend ther true meaning of spacetime. What is time and space, and its function and importance for everything we do. When that comes, everything is going to change radically.
It is very rare for a human to perfectly plan out and execute their childhood dreams.
The simple fact is that those dreams get us to invest time moving in a certain direction collecting random skills along the way and making turns and detours. Eventually people find a purpose that often combines all of their unique experiences and skills together.
The same thing goes for big technological projects. As was famously said for the first moon landing “We choose to go to the moon in this decade, not because that will be easy, but because it will be hard”.
There are so many positive improvements technologically and politically, which wouldn’t exist right now if the moon landing never happened.
The same thing is happening with SpaceX although its even more apparent how beneficial this Mars Mission has become to earth, without it, starlink wouldn’t exist. There is also a lot of science being done to live on mars which if successful, will help us improve agriculture, manufacturing, and the medical field. By pushing the limits of what is possible you encourage more investment into science/research.
I only have one question: if you're building a space habitat on Mars and need space habitat to travel to Mars, why don't you just stay in space? Why go through all this effort to escape Earths gravity, only to voluntarily sink onto Mars again?
Stay in space, use asteroids to build ever more habitats.
The key factor is self sustaining, no asteroid or space habitat can achieve that.
Why? The idea is that you have access to all asteroids as easily as the one you're sitting on. The costs in deltaV are negligible when you don't screw around with planets.
A pitiful, tiny 1km asteroid has a mass upwards of 4 BILLION tons most of it metals. That's a decade of the whole world iron production. Unlimited energy from solar panels, which work 24/7 without night, clouds or rain. Pick one with a little water content and you'll have millions of tons of oxygen and hydrogen. Whatever waste you are left out with use as propellant mass to move towards another asteroid. Rinse and repeat.
It's way more sustainable than Mars, which can never be terraformed into a stable biosphere. If you're sitting in a space habitat with vacuum outside, it's much better to not be sitting at the bottom of a planet's gravity well.
Refilling Starships in zero G without damaging the ships will be extremely difficult & take quite a while. I want to see that catch in mid air landing actually work. I would have a few spare pads ready.
And why would anyone want to drastically decrease their standard of living by moving to a frozen, lifeless wasteland, with an instantly fatal atmospheric pressure. Not to mention how babies conceived in 40% Earth's gravity might turn out. I don't see that working too well. You might want to do some chimp experiments first, with that one.
Imagine the diet living on Mars. At least aboard a Navy submarine the food is really good. One good thing, you probably won't get fat living on Mars.
Oh, nor will manufacturing be transferred off Earth into orbit by Bezos, or anyone else, unless we discover a way to harness dark energy. That might take some time.
But I still keep Boca Chica on 1 of my 3 TVs whenever I'm awake. I wish we had coverage like that during Apollo.
Without damaging the ships? What would be damaging? No one knows what or how hard living on Mars is going to be, or what the consequences there will be for breeding there. To know someone has to try and to fail for lack of trying is the most shameful way to fail.
You lost me at the dark energy part. As far as we know that's not an energy source to tap into, it's a phenomenon to explain expansion of the universe.
Not all manufacturing in space makes sense, but some special power won't make it possible, just solar or nuclear power is required. Mainly it's about practicality and benefits.
We already have benefits for manufacturing some things in space and a viable way to do it, Varda manufacturing drugs in space actually makes a lot of sense and their first in orbit test looks good. Another one might be growing organs for transplant, in microgravity it's easier to get complex structures to grow and scaffolds to stay together as a medium to grow on.
I think Space X needs some new engineers. The launch base damage they had from the 1st launch of Starship could have been avoided by designing the pad using basic science.
Imagine thinking the company that lands and re-uses boosters, created an affordable broadband constellation, and is the first private entity to take NASA astronauts to space needs new engineers.
@@tep916 Nothing you could ever say could change my opinion! Okay, you may be right.
I would make a lousy MAGA... Democrats would change my mind so easily!
That damage was due to a miscalculation that the concrete would hold for one launch, they were not wrong but didn't consider all the variables leading to a big hole when the pad erupted. They had the water plate being built but it wasn't ready for the first flight.
@@shaung949 Thanks for your reply, and your reminder that they had the water plate being built at the time. I guess they thought they might luck out and not much damage would occur, but much more damage happened than they expected obviously.
I should not criticize the engineers so much because engineers are given parameters to work with (by non-engineers) that often don't result in the best possible structures to be created.
Still no information about SS landing legs
Only the HLS lander will have landing legs.
@@Jake1702 what about Mars landing? That's the real deal.
@@srajjad I may be wrong but I don't believe it will use legs. I think it will just rest on the base of the ship.
You could terraform venus, it would just take a hundred years or so.
probably much much more -- and i would think engineered bacteria -- though maybe no chance of water there at all
The other 900 lb gorilla in the room is the fact that getting to Venus takes even more energy than getting to Mars.
SpaceX is going to Mars with or without Governments of Earth.
Got it but their is also speculation about if Elon is actually telling the truth or not since their has been theories with NASA and plus SpaceX became NASA’s biggest friend since ever since SpaceX was even Created anyway so. That’s my opinion.
No shielding around the outer 20 Raptors is very very bad idea.
SpaceX is always hiring. You should apply so you can help their engineers with their bad decision making.
@@lyricbread I already work close enough to Space X. Give you one guess.
@@saquist you're a janitor?
@@TC2290-wh5cb Drafter Designer actually :D
You state with such confidence. Care to explain why it's a bad idea? 'Cause I don't see any except bird strike, and that's not likely to happen with the sounds that thing makes that scare them birds *all* kind of anywhere else...
fan boy stuff
I hold the video uploader responsible for the quantity of the commercials and NUMBER of ad breaks. WHILE this was a good video, the excessive number of ads made it less than enjoyable to watch, having to pause my exercise routine to hit "skip ad"
Fair enough
Starship uses GPS to land. Is SpaceX gonna set up one around Mars?
Elon isn't going Mars, it's a sales pitch. Those of the more realistic among us (yet hopeful) question if it will even make it to the moon. Lets not forget 2016 Elon said he expects to send a mission to Mars as early as 2022 as of this post all we've had is 2 billion dollars of pyrotechnics with only 1 billion left of government money 🤷♂️
All I'm saying is don't hold ye breath 😳
probably. Wouldn't be crazy harder than adding GPS capabilities to a future Mars starlink constellation .
Yes
@@0LabRat00 I think you forgot to add “yet” lol, but ur right, Elon loves to be optimistic, many times too much, but he did help create the first landing rockets, so maybe going to mars isn’t that much of a stretch. Yesterday’s impossible can always become tomorrow’s daily.
@@0LabRat00Totally agree! Nasa will pull the plug on that rocket.
N1 - Starship
Long trusses: yes yes
Alot of engines: yes yes
Grid fins: yes yes
Indened for mutiple uses: yes yes
All launches current being failers: yes yes
Cancelled: yes no
how is it a fail when they reach planned suborbital trajectory? only reuse objectives failed (still not completely)
1960s vs 2020s mate
To call the IFT launches a failure, is ridiculous...
Guess Edison should have just failed once and hung up his thinking cap.
Starship was anything but a failure, it's just they are doing a new approach to rocket technology...
Remember all the nay sayers on falcon 1?
How it was impossible to land a rocket?
Or that spacex could never beat Boeing in a race to bring humans to the ISS again?
You all keep telling this man what he can't do.
Every time you have, he said "hold my beer and watch me", you will then laugh and ridicul him, yet still be shocked when he accomplishes it.
Just think about it, nasa needs a luner star ship by 2026 and star ship hasn't even gotten in to orbit yet let alone put a payload in to Leo, if the next star ship fight isn't carrying a payload in to leo at the minimum, it's going to be delayed even more then it's enviably going be
sign me up
Sorry, all of this "multiplanetary" stuff is bull plop. Bull plop! I roll my eyes so hard at all of that nonsense. Let's see if starship can actually get to the moon reliably before we start talking about interplanetary colonization. It's great to be enthusiastic, but let's try to keep a foot on the ground.
It's bull plop *now*. Soon(tm), it'll be fact. When 'Soon(tm)' is... *shrugs*
aye, the _"in the not too distant future"_ in the narration is working the hyperbole a little.
I'd go "fair enough" if they said, "perhaps in 4 or 5 generations" ... i.e. say, about 250-350 years... people seem to forget how far it is to mars, and with that distance, logistics is a nightmare, and a nightmare that's only worth traversing during optimum launch windows... to build a project magnitudes in size and material requirements larger than the ISS .
And to be fair, I do think it's good to "aim for the stars" as they say, and one day, a "Lifeboat Mars" might indeed come in handy if we're not evolved into machinery hybrids by then and don't really care about distance or time when you have stasis :)
Tho I suspect the relevance of it as "exciting plans" to people of today - even in the industry, is as much interest and relevance as someone selling "experiment space on a robot to be sent to mars in 1975, to smell dust, on the off chance that there might be something interesting in the dust, maybe" to a coal miner in the 1700s :))
[and to be clear; I'm joking a bit... and I'm not saying Starship isn't of itself a wonder of modern science, that will have many uses, but Mars colonisation, I personally feel, if its with something still called SpaceX, will be something we wont necessarily even understand how to plan, for a long time yet, and as such, who am I to predict the future either :)]
"Landing boosters is bull plop."
-GingerGeek 2014
Sending humans to the Moon at the end of the decade and safely bringing them back is bull plop. - GingerGeek 1961
to surrect planets is how to live in a universe - life as center of the universe
(mars belongs to life )
Will Starlink be deployed to moon and Mars?
Starlink is not going to either one. Not enough need for that kind of comm system at either body.
no
@@mikeybhoutex what if star link could lay the ground work for the first Mars Missions giving line-of-sight to Moon and Mars when the mission site is on Dark side?
Also Star link could be positioned in solar orbit as a relay to send signals to Mars when its on the other side of the sun from Earth.
@@saquist Starlink itself is not the right system for Mars. Yet anyway. Maybe in the *faar* future.
Mars will need internet and communications, truth, but it will likely be a relay system specific to Mars and not necessarily, if at all, anything to do with Starlink.
Further, the internet from Mars will *absolutely* not be available when Mars and Earth are in Solar Conjuction, where Mars and Earth cannot see each other
We don't yet have any other satellites/communications that can go around the sun.
It gets into weeds after that, and I think there's better resources than I for this subject. :)
There will probably small custom versions for communication but neither of those places is going to need the same scale as the Earth system.
V4 flaps will look more like wings than flaps.
Until the next failure changes it again.
That's the nature of development.
First!
How paranoid are you to suggest moon habitat should be curtailed because of possible attack from earth.
Please don't descend to that level of clickbait.
Please stick to reporting facts and news and stay away from unfounded opinions.
Unsubscribed....
@@rivendellroad It was included in this video because Elon mentioned it in his presentation.
Hardly click bait when it came out of Elon's mouth. Not to mention that in todays age of terrorism it is entirely possible.
My god Starship V3 is ugly
A lot of people will be frustrated when Starship proves to be useless.
Very nice recap!!
Thanks!
Venus is far more habitable than Mars is. Not at the ground, obviously, but about 50km up the atmosphere has pressure and temperature that is workable for floating habitation modules. Gravity there is much closer to Earth, plus the rest of the atmosphere would provide some radiation shielding. Surviving there wouldn't be trivial, but it would be significantly easier than on Mars. Really the only thing Mars has over Venus is easier access to local building materials.
💯
Not very practical.
Go ahead, design the things you need, start an aerospace company
Sure maybe, but until we can float such things in Earth's atmosphere at the same levels in the same manner, this is so pie in the sky (ha!) that it's never going to happen before Moon and Mars do.
And I'm hella skeptical that the Mars thing happens in the first place. I'd like for it to, but... yeah. Bit much to ask still. I was all "OH YEAH, WE GOIN'!" but reality has tempered, and I'll believe it when I see it. If I and the human race survive that long. :p
I mean… if you wanna repeat something random, real, but random, thinking that only because its true, you’re right, go on then. Make a company, build your ship. But BUILD. From scratch.
Everybody have a great idea, try to make your idea become reality.
Elon is the most important and impressive human that has ever lived. Go Starship 🚀🚀🚀
I wouldn't give any of these adjectives to a far right maga anti american
@@TheMrbouyou Elon isn't far right, MAGA, or anti-American lol. If anything, you seem to have an issue with the advancement of American spaceflight. Go back to MSNBC.
weird cult
He completely is not. He's the guy holding the keys to the castle of SpaceX among others, but that's it. He's a complete butthead with a particular vision that's kinda cool, but a bit out there. If he does pull it off (and chances are he can't/won't/isn't able to) then maybe at THAT point you can put him on that pedestal, but so far, that pedestal is still occupied by... well, others. Not sure who you can pick for certain though, but I'm certain it's NOT him. :p
@@mikeybhoutex Yeah. I guess being the richest man in the world and putting Tesla in every country isn't much of an achievement. Not to mention starlink which now offers internet for people that live in remote parts of the world. What a butthead right.
V3 looks dumb... Stop with all this and build the frick'n HLS which we paid SpaceX money for!!!
@@KeepItReal2024 We paid for it. SpaceX needs to show us!!
Yes use this word "we" very loosely. The government paid for it & more than likely via a loan, not from U.S. taxpayers as many tend to believe. HLS is a variant of starship, not the main show. Many are mistaken. I want an update on HLS aswell but even NASA knows starship & superheavy must pave the way first. We'll likely get more HLS updates once starship successfully makes it to orbit. Can't forget they need tankers to be operational long before HLS even exists. Without the tanker variant of starship HLS is dead in space. @@ericmatthews8497
baby steps brother....
They are building the systems at hawthorne for HLS where nosey people with camera's can't see them. Nasa has confirmed that 30 systems for HLS have been certified and they have an HLS test article complete with life support, it was the white cone right behind Elon when he made his speech.
How is retelling the facts laid out clearly and informatively by Elon in his presentation anything other than pointless click bait garbage?
One word ... concision. Get all the information in 8 minutes rather than 44. Not click bait at all.
Get a human narrator.
😂 What makes you think I'm not human? 😂
Qapla'!!!!