A Big Old Bandsaw - Pt.1
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2018
- I always loved the shape and look of old cast iron bandsaws. The really big (80cm wheels) are really imposing and difficult to move. So I bought a medium sized bandsaw with 50cm (20") wheels. In this first part I clean every little part of this dust encrusted machine thoroughly and give it a fresh coat matt black paint for the main frame and high gloss black for the wheels and little knobs and bearing blocks. Note: The were a lot of unoriginal parts and a lot of missing pieces on this bandsaw so I am not really concerned making this a 'pefect' restoration.
Next part: blade guides, wheel covers, a motor and electricity.
I also bought a 26cm (10") cast iron jointer, a video of that will come soon as well.
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I would give anything for that old machine!!! I love restoring antique machinery
Cool demonstration of it cutting at the end. Makes you realize how little power is actually required to cut some materials with a bandsaw.
Amizing work.. love from india😊
That bandsaw is just dreamy... they dont make em like they used to... :-)
Thanks! Yes it's really nice, especially with the new bearings.. the cut at the end were done by spinning the wheel with one hand and even that was really smooth and easy! Thanks for watching!
What a beaut! Just like Acorn To Arrabella's
Hey man you've done really well! I just got a very similar cast iron machine but haven't started the restoration yet. I'm lucky because all the bearings are in good condition I am just restoring the frame and wheels. Have you thought about not painting the frame? Also what motor are you using? One more thing...can you use the machine without cork lining?!
The rubber stuff you removed from the wheel(s) was to prevent the sawblade from slipping I think. I did not see you put a new one on.
That was old, crumbly cork on the wheels. I replaced the cork with rubber, maybe not shown in the video.. can´t remember. Thanks for watching!
Nice job!!!!
Thanks man!
Thanks for saving this piece of art. How long did it actually take? I agree with the comment below about putting on a guard, especially if your thinking about adding a motor.
Can't say for sure.. a few of days spread over a month or so. I've got a motor and I have some ideas for the cover as well! Thanks for watching!
Fantastic :) ॐ
Alles perfekt, schöne Säge und gut gemacht.
Aber die Bleche als Halterung für die unteren Lagerböcke und die Schrauben dort müsten 4mal stärker sein.
Vielen Dank! Die Blechen und Schrauben, die ich benutzt habe, sind nicht permanent!
Prima, wuchtest du die Laufrollen noch aus?
Ist das Korkbelag auf den Rollen?
Sorry, my German is not good enough for this answer so I'll write it in English.
The wheels are ballanced pretty good, top wheel could be a little bit better. They were covered with cork originally, but I put rubber on the wheels!
How did you change the rubber on the wheels? You did not show it in the video
Hi I was experimenting and I did not have the camera running. It's silicone, in a layer of maybe 4-5mm, I put a crown on it by turning the wheel and scraping the wet silicone with a curved piece of cardboard. After it was dry, I finetuned it with a bit of sanding.
It's holding up great!
Thanks for watching!
I would invest in WD 40 or PB Blaster. That much rust it would have helped immensely on breaking nuts loose
Really nice job on it. I will be rebuilding an old one myself really soon. It’s quite a bit bigger but same principles apply.
Oh I can assure you every bolt was soaked in WD-40 ;) Good luck with your bandsaw!
Robin Coomans Mine is a Brown Manufacturers. 36 inch wheels. 40 horse electric. Will be converting to a sawmill.
Whatever you do with this, please put some protection on it. Even if it is rubbish, so many people have been decapitated because of bandsaws
Yup thats up next, doing that before I put a motor on it. Thanks!
Robin Coomans thank you, and keep up !
Very beautyful machine! But - why did you paint it new??? The original lacquer was in a really good shape for this age! I also have a lot of old machines of this age. It´s really not necessary to paint them new. If you want to protect them from rust it´s enough to oil the parts where paint is missing. If you oil them, the colour will also change nearly to black - so it looks quite similar to a newly painted machine.
If you want to clean such machines, you don´t need to use a wire brush. It´s possible to do it by an old rag and some gasoline. Sometimes also a bit of water with dish soap helps - but be careful because of rust. The wire brush is good to remove rust, but it also removes or scratches the original lacquere.
The new kinds of Lacquer look very different to the original ones. It creates a completely different impression of the surface. Also the old lacqueres most time were very thick. You can´t rebuild that with new kinds of lacquere! The quality of the old lacqueres is very unique and that´s a big part of the external impression of the whole machine - so you shouldn´t change that.
I like that you restaured the machine and hope you will use it for interesting projects. But I don´t like the look now with the new paint. If you once again restore such an old machine, I hope that you think over the matter with the overcoating.
Greetings from Germany
Another thing is - you used a bright coloured primer. Now if the machine gets some scratches - and I´m sure that will happen - the bright primer will be visible. Kirchner and other manufacturers of this time - for my experiences - normally never used bright primer. Scratches were very inconspicuous. I´m quite sure they made that purposely because in this time, things were designed for a long life.
Linda Reu I'm afraid there was not a lot of original on this machine. There were several layers of paint: white, red, green and black. A lot it it was flaking of and there was quite a bit of rust. This machine was in worse shape than you see from the video... I fully understand your concerns though! But at least it isn't scrapped (if I didn't take it, it was for the scrapyard!) and it will be put to use again in the near future. Thanks for watching!
Why do people insist on replacing original components of a machine with modern stuff...thinking its an "improvement"...?
When all they're actually doing is destroying the originality of the machine...and thus any historical value it had...
I haven't replaced anything except the worn bearings?! Just cleaned and painted this thing besides the new bearings.
Robin Coomans
Where's the original block for the bottom wheel...?
In the trash. That block was not original and very badly made. The bottom wheel originaly sat in a Babbit bearing. But the top part of that bearing was missing so I could not use that.
Robin Coomans
Yes....both top & bottom wheels on this would've sat on babbitts...
I collect vintage & antique machine tools here in the UK and have an old Watts Sheffield bandsaw similar size to the Kirchner you have here...although the Watts is using gunmetal bearings...similar to the James Sagar and Wadkin bandsaws...
I might have recast the top cap of that babbitt block...
Looks like they've bored out the top wheel for ball bearings as well...
I'm sorry but I just hate it when stuff's mucked about with... 😉
glenn moreland I understand where you are coming from.. but this is how I got the machine, so I did what I could with what I had ;) I would have kept it original if it still was that way. Thanks for watching though!
Put foot pedal on it and your ready for the apocalypse 😜😜😎😎
I already put a motor on it.. makes it a little bit easier to use haha
painting over rust.... bad