"She Should Get Life in Jail" - Man Falsely Accused By Eleanor Williams
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Jordan Trengrove, who was falsely convicted of rape by fantasist Eleanor Williams tells Piers Morganshe should have been jailed for life.
Williams, of Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria was sentenced at Preston Crown Court for making a series of false gang rape claims.
Jordan reacts to the sentencing before Piers discusses the case with political journalist Ava Santina - who says Williams shouldn't be going to prison because of her mental health - and TalkTV contributors Richard Tice and Paula Rhone-Adrien.
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I was accused of rape when I was 14 by a 16 year old girl. I had people come to my house, threaten me and my family. I couldn’t walk around, I had police officers treating me like shit when they would come over to my house, accusing me also even though there was no proof. At 14 I went to the police station with my mum. She was proven to be a liar and guess what happened to her? Nothing. People excused her behaviour saying she was young etc. She now lives a normal life with a family whilst I struggle to trust anyone. Still messes with me til this day. I hate people lmao.
It's messed up mate
Virtually the same thing happened to my 19 year old son. The police came round to the house and told him to admit guilt and say he was sorry and it would be all over. I threw the policeman out the house. We got the incident on CCTV which proved she was a liar. She was 16 and the police said she was too young to prosecute for wasting police time.
Absolutely insane that the blonde woman has the gall to say that our society never believes “victims” (when she says victims, she really means accusers). The whole reason these innocent men’s lives were destroyed by these false accusations was because people “believed the victim”.
@Rosita go look for sympathy somewhere else instead of coming to down play someone else's trauma. The eff is wrong with you
That’s shit. Sorry to hear that, you rapist
False accusations are much more common than people think. Those men will suffer the effects for the rest of their lives. This was truly abhorrent.
Nearly Millions of False Accusations of SA & Rpe have been happening for Decades. In India 2 men served more than 20 years in Jail named Vishnu Tiwari.
But No Govt support & No Mens boards like Children & Women Boards in Ministry & World Organization like UN Women.
Less than 4% of reports are false. But this woman has caused devastation to these men and their families. She indirectly caused a loss of life. But most murderers and rapists do not get life in prison. She needs a good long sentence and access to therapy, so that when she does get out she doesn't do it again. She's also damaged the chances of actual rape and trafficking victims getting their abusers convicted. She doesn't seem to understand how wicked her actions were.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 More than 53% of Rpe & SA are Proved False in India. In the UK it's approx 40%. Your Hypocrite men blaming stat can tell it's 4% or Feminist Left wing media.
@@equalrights494 Very VERY few crime claims are "Proven False". In our justice system we assume innocence (or we should). To be found not guilty all a defendant needs is to create reasonable doubt. He/she is not then PROVEN not guilty, it is merely a failure to prove guilty.
Please don't confuse one stat for another, many guilty rapists walk free. More will walk free because of this case.
I feel great sympathy for this young man. But I sympathize more with those actual rape victims who will now find it even more difficult to get justice because of one horrible woman.
@@jonburnett90 Stop your Simp mind to favour Women only. There is Not Only One horrible woman but Millions of narcissistic "Toxic Femininity" minded women who have Falsely Accused Half a million Men.
The problem is blaming Men & Female's own Narcissistic Tendancy coupled with No Responsibility for Modern Females to take precautions in a Bad situation.
That woman is such a vile and hateful person she’s basically saying she’s fine with an innocent man going to jail for a crime he didn’t commit but against a woman going to jail for a crime she did commit her hatred towards men is mind boggling
That blonde is an unabashed misandrist. On this very show she said she wants boys to be terrified to ever have physical contact with a girl in case the girl decides to accuse him of SA. And not in a “that way the boys stay away and are protected from power-tripping feminists who want to use the justice system to ruin their lives with false allegations” kind of way. No…she wants boys to be afraid of women so that they have power over them. A kind of “sword of Damocles” where at a whim, her sisters can destroy an innocent boy. It aired not that long ago. Watch her face as she gleefully fantasizes about exercising “believe all women” power over young boys. She has dark hate in her heart. And despite thinking she’s helping women, she doing the very opposite.
Should be considered a hate crime.
She's a misandrist. A person who harbors deep prejudice and hatred towards men.
This is in line with how women achieve retribution: by gossip, innuendo, and calumny. This is according to established psychological research and proven throughout my life anecdotally.
under normal circumstances i fully agree.
i happened to watch the BBC documentary about her and she's clearly not well (and there is a chance, prior to all those false accusations she made, that she did go through some abuse in her life just not the people she accsued of abusing her).
It's best to have some kind of other type of prison for people like her, whereby it's more of a health institution than a prison.
Not just the girl, but the newspaper/media outlet who put out false information need to be held accountable.
@@jonesstinger Exactly, they didn't know. They just took her side and ran with it. They shouldn't be publishing information they can't verify.
@@bitcoins4489Yup. I am a journalism/broadcasting major. They need to take down those stories, or at least update them, as what is paramount is FACTUAL reporting, not slanderous reporting. Those innocent men should absolutely sue the media outlet.
@@jonesstingerhow about they don't fucking print a paper saying rapist with his face on it before he was even convicted there should be huge financial costs for that they could have said accused or and presented the case not just her case
@@benjahildebrandt2001 They did?? I had a similar experience in 2000. My accuser even had interviews in the News of the World and other publications. Twenty lies on a single page was good, even for them. That evil sack of shit is now a solicitor.
they shouldn't put him out as Guilty. but they did
Equal rights, give her 22 years.
Murderers dont even get 22 years. People who actually rape someone don't even get 22 years. We fought for equality for reason and clearly it still isn't being heard
Much longer than 22 years. She didn’t only accuse this guy, who was facing 22 years. She accused multiple other people who were facing long jail time for her accusations. Three people falsely accused by her attempted to take their own life.
Give her death, easier
Exactly
Exactly equal rights, equal time in jail
False rape accusations need to be treated just like a rape charge with the same charges.
Amen!!!!
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absolutely. But wont happen in modern feminist driven countries, where sexism against males goes rampart and unchecked.
The blonde lady saying "she is not dangerous " is scary. She hit herself with a hammer, for lordsake
She is dangerous.
She's definitely dangerous and mentally ill, too.
Didn’t that blonde women appear previously on his show saying she thinks it will be good for men to be terrified?
@@MushDog789 yep the same one. She's obviously had a relationship that went to absolute shit and now she's just anti man.
@@Bolut45 if that is the case then she seriously needs to just get over it and get that chip of her shoulder. Can't hate every man in existence just because she had a shitty dad. She ain't the first and she won't be the last.
I am so sorry to hear of what this young man has been through. I live in the USA and my 15 year old son was falsely accused by a girl 3 years ago. . She had zero proof but was believed unconditionally. My son was bullied, called a monster and ostracized by not only all of the other students but by teachers, school counselors and the principals. His life was ruined and he became suicidal. We had to have him locked into a hospital for his safety. It was the lowest part of my life and especially the lowest of his. She wrote him a letter of apology months later but the damage was done. She was never held accountable even though we showed the principal and school counselor the letter and the school never apologized to him or stood up for him and she was never held accountable. They had never even been alone together!!!!
We moved him away 2 years ago,where no one knows him and no one can hear the lies that wouldn’t stop circulating and so he could try to feel normal again. He is permanently scarred though. He is now a loner and refuses to even attempt to make friends or act on any interest in any girl. He IS much happier in our new state but he will never be the same “happy, funny, easy going, trusting” young man again.
She almost took a beautiful light from this world. She broke him. She attempted to ruin his future, all out of jealousy, spite and for attention. She almost succeeded.
Perpetrators are not always men. Victims are not always women. Women are NOT always telling the truth ( and neither are men)
My God, that's horrible. I hope he can heal enough to be happy. I hope people around her see her for what she really is. God Speed and stay strong 🌠
Oh my god Nanno
What a tragic story. I am so so sorry to read the story of your son. What an evil 😈 person to do that and even worse she got away with.
I truly hope that he gets a path to recovery and some normality.
I'm English and live in the Philippines so send him my good wishes and support for his future.
Take care Nanno
Same thing happened to my son. He was unltimately not charged because of the accusers text messages.We/he were told to press charges against her but just wanted to it in the rear view mirror. He was deeply impacted and made an attempt on his own life. I have sons and daughters and false accusations hurt everyone!
u are so weak,if that is my son.i will have my revenge on that bitcxch
That's horrible. Luckily he is still very young and has everything to live for, I hope it will pass in time.
People like Ava are exactly why stuff like this happens in the first place.
Exactly. She doesn't consider the possibility of something like this happening to her. What if someone accused her of abusing children? Would she like the same standards applied to her - believe the accuser and to be named and shamed?
@@deanjones2525 or has she ever considered the chance OF THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO HER, when she is released from prison - does she have any idea how many people she has seriously pissed off, that would do this now just to teach her a lesson. She is walking on very very thin ice, I really would not like to be her.
@@deanjones2525facts good analogy
she lives in the UK, she/women can't be done for r*pe so i don't think she would give two shits@@rianmacdonald9454
instigating the use of the law as a weapon is incitement to violence
Piers, I do not know how you manage to restrain yourself while listening to these ridiculous women. As a mother of sons I am horrified by their remarks.
Paula was very reasonable. Ava wasn’t.
I 100% agree I hope to god that these two women and Richard have sones who get accused of this and let’s see if Ava still believes believe all “victims”
The Black Lady was really reasonable, what are you saying, it was the white lady that was unreasonable.
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Anybody crazy enough to hurt themselves and lie about rape should do same amount of years the man would’ve have gotten and extra for psychological ward because anybody that crazy shouldn’t be in the general public for our safety
"She's clearly not a danger"; did she seriously just say that?!?!?
What she meant to say is: "she's not a danger to _women_!"
I don't even understand Piers keeps inviting this psycho woman Ava to his show!
How some one dares come on tv and argue for the girl is just despicable
She’s prob been in her position and needs to justify her own rotten existence
As someone who has also been falsely accused of things, I really feel for you Jordan. I'm happy you've been vindicated, and given a platform to clear your name. Congratulations for getting your life back on track. Best of luck and love to you. Thank you Piers!
Didn't ask though
Always someone....
My name is not Jordan. Why have you put this in my inbox, dear?
In Islam, if someone accuses a woman or a man of such a crime and then cannot proove it, the government lashes the accuser with 80 lashes in public.
His life shouldn't have been destroyed to begin with
This woman said “I dont think she should be going to prison.”
SHE RUINED HIS LIFE FOR GIGGLES
Jail time necessary I feel. It may stop other false reports and make these woman take accountability for their actions as he suffered from their false ones
she said she would be happy if that guy has been found guilty because of false pretense. What the actual fvck.. why do u give this pea brain a platform to shower everyone with her stupidity
this is a direct cause of uncontrolled and abusive display of feminism and at the same time misandry coupled with a vast array of psychological issues or syndromes
laws have to be made SPECIFIC and give details what constitutes as example harassment or assault or not
YES graphic description if necessary to avoid grey areas as long as grey areas exist using vague general language those laws are harmful while TRUE victims will never be believed by prosecutors and justicesince they will be associated with those women or men who use such tactics to extort money
Loads of women do it for giggles as well. Next time I see one in trouble I defo ain't helping
This is proof women often can’t think objectively. No accountability. 🤡🌍
Why is she defending a woman who made FALSE rape accusations? Does she not realize that women who make false accusations make it harder for actual victims of sexual assault to be believed?
SHE SHOULD GET THE SAME SENTENCE HE WOULD HAVE GOT IF HE WAS FOUND GUILTY IF NOT MORE.
Thank you. You said exactly my thoughts.
Agreed!
Correct opinion.
agreed 👉 👍
Chances are it wouldn't go to court and it's only one year for hurting little children.
My neighbour was falsely accused and actually went to jail. Worse thing is even when he was acquitted and came back home, people still referred to him as a “grapist”
I was one if them.
When I look back I feel ashamed of myself and was so naive over how evil and vindictive some women can be.
Growing up in our gynocentric country we are taught from a young age that "girls are made from sugar and spice and all things nice but boys were made from slugs and snails and puppy dog tails".
As they say, mud sticks. Even after aquital people remain suspicious. It's awful!
@@carolokbrblol in my case it was of a 17 year old 2 doors up from me living with his parents. It was about 20 years ago now and he was actually found not guilty straight away, no jail time.
Yet, he was still referred to as "the rapist" by locals, including myself, without a single shred of possibility that maybe he WAS innocent and SHE was a lair.
It took a 4 year battle in the family courts several years later, fighting for my daughters, that woke me from the ignorant slumber I was in, along with most of the population, where men were always guilty and women always innocent victims (and they wonder why men have the highest statistics when it comes to suicide).
We are all just products of our environment, which is extremely gynocentric, even though we are all battered with the "patriarchy" baton, contantly, from feminists and the Liberal left wing.
Gaslighting, basically.
@@jascam74 Me Too. Believe all women doesn't help. Amber Heard weaponised that organisation to try to destroy Johnny Depp.
I went to school with a man who committed suicide after it was found that he was falsely accused of rape. He couldnt live with the fact that there had been people that believed he did it.
If someone ever falsely accused me of sexual assault, there'd be a trial for me, but it wouldn't be for sexual assault.
I see where you’re coming from,if you’re going to accuse me then make sure you have good evidence agains t me. If you accuse me and you did it on a whim just expect war
Lmao
This makes my blood boil! This poor man! I hope she has a miserable life and no one let's her forget what an evil thing she did!
Think she does if she’s hitting herself with hammers and her mother only has good things to say about her.
Hahaha, women rarely face the consequences to their evil actions
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@@youlig1because she’s a queen! It’s a woman’s world men just live in it I hope that young man deletes himself a poor woman is sitting in jail because he assaulted her period. #BelieveAllWoman #FeministUnited #Feminist
once on-line, a bad reputation is through the floor, and no man will ever love her
Those women on the panel have attitudes which are absolutely shocking and the reason why this evil woman can get away with this for so long
They usually condine this nonsense till it affects one of their own
Those two women would be thinking very differently if they were on the receiving end of this kind of accusation.
They scram already oppression for no reason, that how bade it is...
This female guest is outrageous. It's like it's impossible for women to treat men like human beings.
Not impossible -- just some people are so brainwashed in a certain victim narrative. Thank God, not all are like that.
I think a lot of women have an underlying hate towards men!
Yeah she's absolutely disgusting. Disgusting.
“Innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately, we forget that in society”. No lady, it’s not society that’s forgetting that, it’s people like the two ladies on the panel who is attitude is guilty until proven innocent.
She did sympathise with the guy but Piers tried to force her into a hypothetical argument about him going to prison. He wasn't going to prison. Piers wastes everyone's time. She's right this woman is going to remain insane/mentally ill if she goes to prison. She won't get well and may cause more problems when she gets out. Why when a man commits rape and violent assault he is in the minority and mentally ill and when a woman pulls an outrageous damaging stunt like this she isn't in the minority and she is not unwell.
Anonymity until proven guilty.
Innocent Until Proven guilty.
What's difficult to understand?
Ava clearly values the life's of women over men. Disgusting comments from her. This poor man's life has been ruined.
She wouldn't say the same about a man, as Piers points out.
@@shipluhoque3441
Go look at the last time she went on Piers show. She wanted men to feel made terrified for even touching a woman.
It’s clear what her position is
Ava Is a Misandrist
Piers has a great idea that everyone be anonymous until investigation is completed. Because when a man is accused and suspected of rape he immediately becomes a huge villain. It is assumed by everyone that he is guilty. Yes it’s a serious accusation and if he is guilty he is a monster. But if he’s falsely accused it’s written up everywhere and reported everywhere. And everyone knows him and passes judgment. That’s just not fair. Public opinion is strong and people get crazy and want to get their own pound of flesh. Dangerous.
That's what wrong with so called feminist
This pisses me off, I was raped at 18 and for someone to lie about it is vile. May this young man find peace and learn to trust women again.
Once the trust goes its hard to get it back if at all in some circumstances!
I hope the same for you. There are some sick and evil individuals in the world, both men and women.
The fact is the vast majority of women support women who lie about this, even if eventually proved innocent, until ALL women who lie about this are socially outcasted by the majority of women it will not change.
When women ask why a lot of modern men are checking out of relationships this is a major reason why, it's just not worth the risk anymore.
If he has any sense, he wouldn't.
Young men nowadays need to have something missing between the ears to ever trust a woman 100 percent within a relationship, especially someone they have just met "romantically".
Your life could be over before it's began if she decides to be spiteful and evil.
Scary times for today's young men.
@Mark Reynolds whilst you're "aiming your anger at the matrix" you can train yourself during the quiet spells by fighting a ghost, punching fog or standing alone in the middle of the Sahara desert shouting your lungs out.
I am 75 now. When I was in my 30s, I was going through a divorce where my wife would beat her head against the wall and bite herself on the arms in front of me call the police and tell them that I was beating her. They would believe her and arrest me, and she took everything I had. She was very clever, but mentally ill getting away from her was the best thing I ever did in my life. 10 years lighter I got custody of my daughter because of her cruelty to my daughter. Now my daughter still has difficulty in life because of the cruelty, she also endured. From my ex-wife. sorry about the punctuation. Speech to text is not so great.
This woman should get 22 yrs in jail too. This is super scary because imagine you can be put in jail for nothing.
30 years or more.
As a Woman, I personally feel like she should have got the same punishment as him when accused. 20 Years, mental issues or not. False accusers should get the same time!
At least 66 years accumulated from each of her innocent victims.
@Vongola Atzi I believe 22 years in the shade would do personally.
I live in America, and I've seen several stories about men being falsely accused by women, the men serve sentences and when the lie comes out the women are rarely, if ever, held accountable. Recently, I saw a story about a woman lying and it cost the police time and money, she was charged for that. So if you lie and it costs the government you'll be held accountable, and if you're a regular man whose life gets ruined by a lie told by a woman, oh well. This is atrocious.
Piers: "Men falsely accused of rape and now suicidal"
Ava (blonde): "Women most affected"
Eh maybe because women are raped on a daily basis and hardly ever believed without a serious investigation. If a women is raped she needs to stand naked in front of people and have her body swabbed for DNA he clothes need to be taken off her, she gets asked if she was drinking, what she was wearing, if she maybe gave consent. Whe I was secually assaulted the police did all those procedures and asked me to point my attacker out. And once I did I never heard from them again
She's the type of women who blames men for every issue in her life
@@ratours9531 yep, good rule of thumb stay away from women like her
@@ratours9531 100%. Ava is the type of woman who has clearly had a bunch of disastrous relationships (probably coz she's a crazy feminist bitch) and now is just totally anti-man.
She's a disgrace.
Girl: spends years lying and fabricating evidence including hurting herself seriously to ruin multiple people’s lives.
Interviewee: she’s clearly not a danger.
What is she then?
Piers should have pressed her on that and put her in her place. Lost opportunity.
That lady is a dumb journalist who always takes these extreme takes just to get some attention
She’s garbage
When someone commits suicide, as a result of her - or others' - lies; she's not just a danger ... she's directly 'responsible' for manslaughter!
Yeah, that comment threw me off too.
Yep, that was a very strange comment for her to make which completely threw me. It's hard to take anything else she says seriously thereafter.
Sex crime does not require evidence being accused is enough to secure a conviction. He is very lucky that her lies were find out.
Ava Santina, that was embarrassing and shameful and to have the audacity to speak such blinkered nonsense on air displays part of the problem.
Amazes me how incapable these woman are at taking responsibility there’s still people saying she shouldn’t of been jailed. She tried to literally ruin multiple men’s lives with her lies.
It's the mental health card unfortunately, the moment it comes out that they have lied, oh well they are unwell, let's get them help instead of punishment... It doesn't matter what happens to the accused.......
What's annoying is she's the one case in literally millions where the false accuser actually receives some form of punishment usually they get away with it Scott free.
@samirdonsic She isn't a danger to women smh.
There was a girl in my town who did something like this where she accused several young men of rape. Some of them got in trouble and were only cleared when one of their lawyers was able to get sealed records (she was under 18) that showed she kept telling police the same story, like same details and everything. The guys were cleared but people still treated them with suspicion, like they would say "They must have done something wrong to get in that situation." And the girl wasn't suffering some trauma from some actual assault; she just liked stirring up trouble. She never got in any trouble for any of it.
Feminist 😂😂😂😂
Thinking of Jordan, family and everyone involved who were innocent.
Well done Pierce x
brosnan?
@@robvivian7354 hahahah
If a person is INTENTIONALLY accused of something false by someone and proven innocent, the accuser should receive the SAME sentence the accused was facing!
simple - 10 years for the false allegation, and the full length of the crime accused of. In this case she should get 32 years min.
Ava is the kind of person i wouldn't want to be close to or even be her neighbor. She's the type to throw you under the bus for her own satisfaction regardless of whether you deserve it or not. If she were a judge, her cases would be decided in under 5 min especially if the plaintiff or defendant is a female. She throws all logic outside and dwells on what the stars in the sky tell her. Im afraid of such people.
I wholeheartedly disagree. She said nothing but sensible things, and actually it's comments like yours that show that the public is easily manipulated and driven by emotions, rather than reason. Everything she said is plain facts: the vast majority of women aren't believed, the vast majority of rapists aren't convicted and the female liar in this case is obviously mentally sick.
@@quinncreel6091 Ava doesn't even trully show empathy towards the innocent men. She spent 90% of her talk excusing the woman actions. Talking about her mental health and her innocence. I tell you, if it was the the opposite, she would have rejoiced that a man who falsely accused a woman got jailed. It should be innocent till proven guilty
@@quinncreel6091 overall, this isn't the first time ive listened to Ava. I ve watched her many times over the years and she obviously values women more than men. Her attitude towards men over the years is that of contempt and dislike. So im not judging her from this video only
@@quinncreel6091 Serial Killers are also sick? Is the justice system wrong for convicting them?
And you think siding with a lunatic would actually make things for the better?
Thanks to her and her supporters like Ava and yourself, more victims of abuse would be less believed, more rapists would be walking free and more innocent would be placed in carceration.
People like you makes the world a better place. 😂
@@m.s7207judging her on this video, because she wants to excuse for a girl Who destroyed a young man's life, Feel probably never get passed the stigma of this, ever.
He sounds like a mega Karen
Well said Piers... nice to to see you are holding the blond on her double standards and excuses..
"the blonde" ? Men like you are part of the problem
@Mark Reynolds piers was spot on
the blonde?
@@jodiebird1551 yes the Blond.. am i not permitted say that any more?? am i now to ignore my eyes and go with my feelings?? i know she has i name but i dont care, just know from a previus interview some weeks back that she is another feminazi.. god i am so tired of snowflackes
@@jodiebird1551 Ava..she has blonde hair
I had a false accusation leveled at me , which put in the mental health ward at the hospital after breaking down. While I was there, the very woman who I was accused of being verbally abusive to, sent me a message through a friend that she and others were worried about me and cared about me. If I abused her, why would she come to me? It's amazing how rotten people can be, then get humbled when they go too far.
she wasn't humbled, she was gloating.
@@VU20-eg2ef If that's the case, then it's actually a blessing that I'm no longer there. No more pearls to swine.
Stop making excuses for her. She knew exactly what she was doing.
Considering what she did she's absolutely a danger to society!
What she meant to say is: "she's not a danger to _women_!"
Under one percent rapes going to conviction? Where did she get this information.
Ava Santina what a complete piece of work !! Couldn't believe my ears.
Her attitude is if it's male, has a dick;then he's a rapist. The only thing that would please her is that all males in the would be eunuchs(no penis or testis).
The problem with making all men eunuchs is intense pain, frequent UTIs, incontinence,loss of hormones,bone density, muscle mass etc. Treating these problems would be very expensive and a substantial burden on an already stretched NHS.
It would also eventually result in the human race dying out.
I agree that the way serious sex offences are investigated requires improvement. This is not the only case of false allegations. There was a notorious one in Australia where a former corrections officer was falsely accursed of rape by his girlfriend in order to protect her affair with a police officer. It took 5months to get the charges dropped; that only occured only after a female sergeant chased up forensic reports the investigator swore blind were not done. They had been ready for 3 months. She analysed them and all of the reports and realised the 'victim' was a perpetrator. She had made numerous emergency calls claiming to have been held at knifepoint by the accused family, property stolen,car broken into, carjacked. All of these were investigated and found not to be true. Examination of her social media showed the woman was doing some rather interesting moves with her lover when her fiance was supposed to have tied her up, beat and raped her. In fact in one interview she lied to the sergeant 4 times! She was eventually convicted of perverting the course of justice and received 3.5 years custody. The bent cop whose idea it was got an 18 month suspended sentence.
it's even more disgusting when the blonde girl saying the girl shouldn't have go to jail for these and not if the men if they were sentenced, truly terrifying that these women still exist and their hatred towards men
Shes an incel clearly
This really pisses me off! My best friend Brian was falsely accused and spent 4 yrs trying to clear his name, by the time the 4th yr rolled around he lost hope and hung himself. My other roommate and I found him and had to cut him down! An absolute waste of a beautiful human being, he was the best of men and an example to my sons and daughter. I can't believe it's been 3yrs since he took his life, I miss him dearly. He didn't deserve what happened, especially from a sad sack of a broad who he had rejected. It make me sick to my stomach thinking of how vindictive she was and how easy it was for her to make these allegation with absolutely no proof.
The courts are set up to be adversarial towards men always and that crap needs to change!
Insane man sorry for your loss. I hope you tried to avenge him. Ruin her life.
But I thought men were the privileged gender?
Did he go jail? Why did he give up, it's only a woman...
@@A_S996 yeh women always tell me to waive that white male privilege card.. hahahah so rigged
@@wolfman_jagermeistro8445 tbh it's a woman. A man's man would stand his ground, and be a man, dammit!
People who falsely accuse people of horrible crimes should spend the rest of their life in jail
8 years is crazy, she deserves more I actually feel for him I’m going through a similar situation currently.
Anonymity should be across the board for anyone accused until conviction. The law should permit for a proven false accuser to be open to sentencing for a period equal to the sentences available for the crime they falsely alleged.
they should get the max the accused was facing
She should serve the same sentence that he & other men who were accused would've served. One after the other. Plus she needs to pay damages to all those men too. Not a fine to the court, to the true victims. And Jordan should be able to sue any media who judged him before he was even in court!
"She's clearly not a danger" - Her lies cost more than 100 shops that belonged to the Asian community in her hometown that were destroyed in riots. The 3 men she accused of r**e and gr***ing tried taking their own lives. They were threatened on a daily basis. Their families were ostracized. They had to relocate and change their names. All while she had countless opportunities to come clean about her lies. If that doesn't make her dangerous, I don't know what is
What she meant to say is: "she's not a danger to _women_!"
This was because of the racist alt right
What shops were destroyed in riots???
I do not agree in naming a man until he's proved guilty.
Why should the woman have anonymity but the man hasn't?
False rape accusations should be made a hate crime.
Oh shock. The women on this panel make excuses for this criminal. The sisterhood at it again.
Most women would not make excuses for this
@@lizzeltired2155 They would
My friend who was going through divorce was frequently accused of domestic violence from his wife to make him look unfit to care for kids. When in fact he was covered in bruises and scratches from his wife while she faked her own injuries. He was smart enough to hide cameras to record these incidences and got us to call for police when it happened (he'd call us and hide the phone). The worst part of this was police told him that if he strike back even in self defense, the court would most probably favor his wife in the ruling. Even with the videos and injury reports from medical professionals, my friend was talked out of pressing charges as he risked the court agreeing that he put his hands on her during some of these violent incidences and cost him his divorce case.
I find it funny how people argue "what if it's true?! you gonna let the guy go back out and ruin lives?!", when they should ALSO consider "what if it ISN'T TRUE? we just gonna ruin the guy's life forever?! you know what happens to rapists in prison??"
when the woman tried to ruin an innocent man's life she should be punished and have her life ruined. Anything less, then the legal system is sexist and values women's lives more than men's.
After all that they think men would waste a second on them going forward.
It should be a felony mandatory jail sentence for a woman who falsely accuses a man of rape. A minimum five years and maximum 10 years in prison.
My heart goes out to the men involved 💗
Especially to all men wrongly accused by a woman.
God ( the righteous judge) has to take charge over such pressing cases
About time this issue is being brought to the forefront! Too many falsely accused men going to prison and their entire families lives are shattered 💔
It's very disturbing that all a female has to do is accuse a male of rape and he's automatically guilty. This can ruin a man's life forever.
And many of man’s lives have been ruined by it.. makes me sick
I'm sorry for all men that are accused of something so heinous as this. And have to deal with accusations and humiliation like this. My heart goes out to them. ❤
I sincerely pray that God will be their vindicator---to make up for all the Hell they've wrongly suffered at the hands of their accusers.
This is actually how Satan the accuser of the brethren ( Rev.12:10) comes into power and authority, and is being worshipped, as relates in Mat.24:-5,11,24; 1Tim.4:1,2; 2 Tim.4:3,4; 2Pet.2:1-3; Acts 20:29,30
There's plenty of narcissist Jezebel types teaching in the temple 'these days '( +Rev.2:20), misleading and seducing many into Devil worship worldwide. 2 Tim.3 mentions false accussers and lovers of themselves in the last days.
God help us.
Friend out of jail said way too many men in the slammer are over false accusations from women so it is a serious issue. A man I know who's a gentle giant kept going to jail because his wife kept accusing him of assault because she wants his house for herself and her affair partner.
Not only do they damage the men they are falsely accusing, but they make it more difficult for genuine rape victims to be believed.
Thank you for that ,compassion doesn't change things for innocent men.Laws should change ,false accusers should get punishment
And how many guys have you sent to jail with fake rape accusations?
This brings me to tear man. This man’s life won’t ever be the same
I cannot BELIEVE that political correspondent person! SHE SHOULDN'T BE IN JAIL???????? She should never walk free!
Then she blithers on about what women have to go through, completely dismissive of the trauma the accused man has to go through, losing his job, family, friends, literally everything, BEFORE going to trial! False allegations MUST carry the same sentence as the crime and anonymity has to be given to all until conviction is achieved.
This is an injustice against men.
She didn't say she should be skipping around outside going for tea and cakes. She said she should be in a psychiatric ward. That's not freedom. Don't misrepresent what was said.
@cantbendknee She still gets all the sympathy though eh?
Accused should remain anonymous just as victims do until proven guilty. The personal cost of being falsely accused is so high that protection before conviction is essential. Once convicted however, the book should be thrown. Just as a false accusation should carry the same penalty as the offence.
The current state of affairs is unbalanced, misandric and clearly not justice.
@@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars She didn't get sympathy. All the women was saying was what's the point in putting a mentally ill person in prison and then releasing them back into the world still mentally ill, that doesn't benefit society. People in these comments are arguing with things this lady didn't say.
Twice in my life I've had women falsely accuse me. Luckily for me, the first time there was a woman witness, and the second time God guided me to turn on my recording device that I had sitting on my desk. I had no reason to record the discussion with her so I can only assume that God guided me. When I went to talk to her she pulled out her phone and started to talk to someone and then suddenly started to scream, "Don't touch me like that, no, no, keep away." I pointed out that I had recorded the whole thing and she stopped and told the person on the other end of the line that I had recorded it. So she obviously had an accomplice. I tried to get the police to do something about this in both cases but they wouldn't. If I had not told her that I recorded it, she would have gone to the police, I would have been arrested and have to post bail and then go to court to show my evidence. Then they would have done something about it. The full impact of the potential consequences to me, took some time to sink in. Now I always have a bodycam with me. When women find out that I have a bodycam it is like holding up a cross in front of a vampire, even if I am not wearing it to record. Just the fact that I own one, creates unbelievable animous towards me. That told me all that I need to know about most women. I have tried to get politicians interested in this issue but they have ignored me. I believe that at a minimum, false accusers should get at least the amount of jail time that the falsely accused would have received. AT LEAST.
The bible agrees with you about the sentence a false accuser should get.
Wow. God saved you brother
Elanor williams also falsely accused a number of asian men in barrow. It wasn't just this case. Hence why she should be jailed for a long time.
Who cares if she is not well , these men have to live with this for the rest of their lives, this country is appalling
Why is that woman arguing a nonsense case with Piers?! This woman that has got jailed has put women back YEARS! Disgusting!
She doesn’t represent all women just like all rapist and pedophiles don’t represent all men
I'm sort of on the fence about whether or not I think a woman who accuses a man of rape should or should not be believed in a case where the evidence would be more in her favour though not absolutely conclusive, for example. Granted, this is probably totally different in every respect since she was apparently just believed without sufficient evidence!
However, I think there is some merit to at least attempting to thoroughly examine a woman's mental health in cases such as this, aswell as any possible external social influences that could have possibly lead to such a distorted thought process.
What do you mean by "put women back years"?
That's an extremely valid point.
These False Cases have been happening for more than 2-3 decades & Feminists suppress the Men's Rights. Even Earlier l Mainstream Media didn't show the cases but Now the Right Wing Media is Showing after understanding hypocrisy of Left wing Patriarchy narrative. There is no Board for Men like Women & children in any country Constitution. Even UN don't have UN Men but has UN Women to publish Feminist Narrative
I’m going through the same thing and have been for 3 years now. I’ve lost two jobs, I’ve now lost my girlfriend as she can’t cope anymore and I also had my name put in the paper twice. From today I have exactly 100days left until this goes to crown court. This is hell on earth and I am a wreck trying to get through each day.
If you are innocent, please DO NOT lie about anything. I was falsely accused several years ago. The way I proved my innocence was to disclose every single fact and not withhold any information. Once I did this the police were able to corroborate every movement with witnesses and cctv. I was proved innocent. I wanted the police to charge the false accuser but they said it was a waste of police time.
Same here in court next year for the same thing would like to talk about things if your ok with it
I literally have seen this bs happen right in front of me... My ex's brother and gf where arguing badly, the guy said the relationship is over and started walking away, the chik then proceeded to run over to the corner of the river we where at and grabbed a stone, started bashing herself in the face and head with it and called the police, I had the foresight to know this situation was getting crazy and started recording on my phone... cops came, put him in cuffs and I kept saying "fuqin look at the video" finally one listened and watched it... they ended up releasing him, and did not do anything to her except call her mom to pick her up....
I hope you kept the video, some day some poor man may need you to show it in court.
@rhondasisco-cleveland2665 fortunately I'm a data hoarder and NEVER delete ANYTHING....🤣
You saved that mans life more than you could ever know, thanks
Feminist police
@@VosMiceSamaXD its true dude western society just hates men
What an awful person this Ava is! Absolutely horrendous. I’ll not be surprised if she is single and/or her partner is afraid of her.
If she has a boyfriend/ husband, he should get out asap!
She should have gotten the same sentence she wanted for him and then some for lying
Honestly....the rules are not fair....the sentence for falsely accusing someone should be equal to the punishment the people commit the actual crime get .this will begin to deter others from ruining people's lives
So rape and lies are equal on the ladder of immorality? You don't think rape is worse?
@@stephaniefarrant @Stephanie Farrant depending on the circumstances...lies are equal and in some cases even greater than rape... context: some former American senator went to the UN with a jar of baby powder and said it was anthrax .. Iraq got invaded and the ripple effect led to nearly 1 million people dead and an uncountable number of rape cases in the process...now tell me if you think lies are as simple as you perceive them to be ....
@@stephaniefarrant If you’re attempting to destroy 22 years of an innocent person’s life, why should the punishment for a person guilty of this to be for them to get less than 22 years of their own life taken away? That seems completely and utterly insane. You’re literally getting a significantly lower punishment than you were attempting to impose on other, except you’re a guilty person getting a rightful punishment and you were trying to impose a wrongful punishment on an innocent person, and yet the guilty person’s punishment is somehow significantly less than what they were trying to impose on the innocent person?
So accusing someone of rape is worse than the actual act of rape? Out of 52,000 rape complaints only 843 saw anyone charged, which is only 1.6%. Over the past 4 years rape prosecutions have fallen by 70% this is why so many women don't report rape and this women has made it harder for them. It's terrible what she did but my sympathies and anger are with the tens of thousand of women every year that don't see justice and who have to live with the consequences. Their lives and relationships are forever tarnished and ruined. For him to demand life is unreasonable, the average sentence for rape is 8 years, 6 months LESS than what she got, but then again women usually get harsher sentences than men.
@@sammic7492 🤦♂️
Same with Amber Heard . Over her domestic violence allegations against Johhny Depp . He lost his film roles as Jack Sparrow & Fantastic Beasts. While she still kept her role in Aquaman as Mera. Even though he had never been charged or convicted with domestic violence. Innocent until proven guilty. Two PL footballers both allegations were dropped and bizarrely one of them has allegedly reunited with his accuser and is expecting his baby!
Johnny Depp was found in the U.K trial to have physically harmed Amber Heard on 11 occasions. He even got his assistant to apologise to her on his behalf for kicking her in the head! This evidence was not allowed in the U.S case by the judge. They were in a toxic relationship. They abused each other, and he was a lot bigger and stronger than her.
False allegations are more common than you think, please remember, not all false accusations get proven false. Also, how is this woman trying to make the liar out to be the victim.
“We live in a country where women aren’t believed…”
Don’t you think women making false allegations has contributed to that?!
What does it mean “she’s unwell” ? Serial killers aren’t well either, should we let them roam freely? 😂
She should also be angry at the woman for making it harder for actual victims to be believed smh
Evil woman. Why is our 'justice' system always so lame?
The so called 'justice system' in this country is an absolute joke.
This woman should serve at least 3O years.
courtchangewordpresscomslashthe-court-change-or-the-non-finality-situation an ignored case that decisions are open-endedly faultable instead of final.
It’s a legal system not justice
Evil woman and equally evil women making excuses for her.
I was accused of messing with my girlfriends kids in 2021. I had a heart attack and had corrective heart surgery in 2022. I've had a total mental breakdown since then. My life has been ruined. I take lots of medication now, maybe because of my heart condition, but the stress of the false allegations has had a massive part of all this. I will never, ever be with a woman again.... Ever!
These women make me sick my son was falsely accused of sexual assault. She would know all about it if it happened to her child . It's a living nightmare
This is a terribly sad story, the poor man having to go through all he has is really upsetting. He seems like a good person, I wish him peace and luck.
And yet false accusation is apperently a myth
All accusers should be heard, not necessarily believed!
Once they're heard, they're believed-----
Regardless
What a stupid comment, that's like saying she said something so it must be true........
If women who invented false rape allegations got harsher sentences, we would have fewer women lying and thus make women who do come forward with true allegations more believable.
Exactly
Shariah law is the solution.
Potential death penalty for rape
Lashes for false accusations as its slander
That's the key!
yes 100%. if making the false claim got you the same time the accused would get then women who make false claims would dry up very fast and only true victims would come out because they would be telling the truth 90% of the time. we also need to make sure it was really rape and not a one night stand they regretted the next day or week later.
no one should ever believe a claim unconditionally. Every claim should be heard and evaluated on a case-by-case basis no matter how common or uncommon false claims are.
8 and a half years. What a joke. She tried to destroy this poor innocent guy who could have spent most of his life behind bars. We need to lobby the government's to change the laws and courts to be more tough on people that go after someone with faulse accusations. In this case, she should have received a minimum of 25 years behind bars. Knowing that this evil monster will be out in 2025 makes my skin crawl. She will do this again. It's not a question of when, but who this monster will go after.
This feels really good to hear. "Listen take seriously and then make investigation" as someone around my area falsely accused me of molestation. As itRuined my relationship with my family. My siblings. Even my nephews everyone doubts my side of the story. And even when i go out to walk to the corner store they believe that iam meeting someone. It really hurts
Sorry tht u went through that
i pray that you find peace
this blonde woman would drive me mad. what is it with people like her and simply just going with her own and not concidering anything else.
She a horror. She said last time she likes that young lads are terrified of young girls
Typical horrible Woman in this modern world!
As a woman I want to apologise to this man that this ever happened, its sickening to hear what she did and awful to hear what he went through
You mean as a woman who enjoys making false accusations against men? As if you are not a man-hating feminist.
Not all women would do this,
But any woman can.
Any woman can because society and the government
Enable this behavior.
@salh9276. Thank you for your comment.
The comment of the woman with blonde hair is exactly why cases like this happens. Her comment and mentality is disgusting.
Prison is not for rehabilitation. Prison is for punishment!
It's for rehabilitation, punishment, and keeping you off the streets so you can't commit more crime.
It's for both, I think.
and what is punishment for?
Under 1% where rapes are brought to conviction?!! where did you have that information!!??. Do you know how many men’s life have been destroyed because of a accusation.
It is abhorrent what this poor man has gone through and the other two men she made false accusations against.
She should be given a 30 year jail sentence in my opinion.
What happened to this lad was horrible and I feel that when a person lies like this they should receive the same sentence as they were attempting to impose on their victim. She should have received a minimum of 22 years.
Our system is not good but it could be a lot worse. Certain things I feel must be accepted:
1) All people are Innocent until proven otherwise. The identities of involved parties should be protected.
2) All claims should be taken as seriously and investigated to determine if they are true or false. This requires evidence or a clearly seen pattern that can be statistically recorded.
I agree. What happened to due process.
Some men rape tho so may as well punish this one too. You missing simple logic haha.
Absolutely agree with both points. This is how I feel about the subject.
And for point one, if one of the party or an outside party publicly names the accused/accusee, then they'll be fined and charged with...something...was thinking slander, but it could be true as well, so....
at THE VERY LEAST, she should get charged with perjury
This poor bloke 😢 this could be my sons ,I have 3 daughters too,have had the talks with protecting themselves etc but to think someone could do this is outrageous 8/half yrs is a slap on the wrist ,all rape cases are dealt with horrendous this woman has made it so much harder for genuine women and men 😢 😕 😞
I know someone who was falsely accused, spent an entire year in hell, had to move out their own town for fear of reprisals from the "public court", and was told by Social Services he couldn't have any contact with his children even though he wasn't convicted. Myself and my mate supported him through the entire inferno watching him become a shell of his former self from worry, fear, and shame even though we were all there the night in question and we all knew he was innocent. There was no greater relief than when the judge called the prosecution over to him, had a quick word, the girl's friends all came clean in the end and the judge dropped the case but the girl and her friends got absolutely heehaw other than a slap on the wrist for destroying my mate's life.
the women's opinion : she's still innocent , he's still guilty .
“ThIS HaS PuT WoMeN BaCk YeARs” - the classic narcissistic trait of how can we make this MAN’s story about ourselves.
Dead right, malignant feminist narcissists, always have to make it about themselves, because they lack empathy for anyone else, especially men.
This is a discgrace. She should be punished and jailed for just as long as he would have been if he were convicted
The local media should be held accountable also for printing such lies without proof rueing peoples lives
If a woman is found guilty of this crime she should get a heavy sentence, not a slap on the wrist!
I was falsely accused of a similar crime when I was 16 by a neighbour who I never interacted with , luckily I had a solid Albi at the time of the alleged "crime" and she also later admitted that it was false but that experience changed my view the police to this day.
Why not did she ever bother to think about the guy while she conspired her accusation of be raped. A monetary compensation should also be made to the guy this would send strong message to people who are thinking about making false accusations.