Well he is actually a good writer. Its just that the makers approved such things as they wanted to play safe by over simplifying dialogues for the masses but it turned into a mess
I think Priyanka was so effortless in this because she has done cheesy movies in Bollywood before but Richard on the other hand has mostly done serious roles and is kind of new to this campy style.
In MCU, The Russo brothers were always aided by good writers who always worked with them. Maybe that's why now their work doesn't seem that well written.
Not just writers also already established characters with actors who knew what to do. The best thing marvel did in the first 3 stages was to take it slow and establish all the characters in the right way so the audience knew what they where talking about and why they where saying it like that. That why both infinity and end Game felt so inclusive and personal
I just noticed that the whole time while watching the show I was just waiting for Priyanka to come on screen... THIS WOMAN brings life to the screen. Anyway I think its too early to judge now. i know the pilot is suppose to grab you but I am hopeful... And I trust Priyanka's choices.
@@Shawn.Mathew It was her first big movie in the States... The cast was big... You gotta let that one slide Bhai. From Mary Kom to The Sky is Pink... She has earned my trust.
The biggest plus for me in this series so far is Priyanka. Her acting, her realistic response to fight scenes is so good. I agree that Richard & Stanley didn't make an impression yet, I hope they do in coming episodes. I. Somehow hopeful about this series to impress us
@@Helloji25 that's their opinion. I enjoyed the series till now. Can't understand why you're being so happy about this. You getting some money from those "West critics" or what??
@@adityamukherjee7038Bcz I waste my time after rejecting West critics & following indian critics.........& it is flopping all over.........sooo I'm happy Btw Indian critics & youtube reviewers take payment for positive reviews,not audience like us 😌
@@Helloji25 it's released on OTT for god's sake so there's no number by which you can say it's a hit or a flop. Have some common sense before commenting
Do you really think Deepika Padukone was anywhere close to what Priyanka did in first two episodes. For Katrina role as Zoya, I can settle anyhow. But Rubie...that character was naive and here Nadia character is popping in the whole show not just for Indians but foreign critic praising her. Jammy you don't need to draw parallel everytime. Also Pathan and Citadel two episodes come on same page for bland plot
The Indian version of citadel is in good hands. Though it is too early to tell but Samantha playing priyanka's character I'm sure she will do the justice. But having varun in show I'm not so sure. But it will be interesting to see how Raj & DK use him in this project. Fingers crossed✌️🏼
Varun and Samantha's characters are totally different than Richard & Priyanka's. Different narrative and story. The italian version and the indian version is going to connect with this main version in the future as I have heard in the interviews.
I am a big fan of Priyanka and i absolutely love this show. 😂😂.. i know it's cheesy, nothing new to offer....but i enjoy old tried spy dramas.... So ya Citadel is my guilty pleasure 😂😂
Raj and DK are dependable directors and writers. Till now all of their projects have been really good. I truly believe and hope that the Indian rendition of Citadel would be great!
True.. saw the 2 episodes and they are so worth the wait.. both the actors are fabulous! Ppl who don't like it can go watch something else but let us enjoy who love them..
When I was young my teacher gave me the analogy of Indians are like crabs. She was trying to teach us to be happy about other peoples success. Feels so true today.
I don't know whether I should feel irritated that most people didn't realize that the one-take combat sequence in the train in Pathaan was NOT done by SRK (but by the stuntman whose face was replaced by SRK's in post-production) or whether to feel proud for YashRaj's VFX team who managed to pull it off so convincingly.....
Priyanka is goddess and god is a woman . Priyanka is the powerhouse of acting. She is the best actress ever in history . She is Genius and living Legend . Love you p.c from boston .
@@riteshpradhan6737 What Raj and dk is actually making a spin off citadel. You mean to say I now have to see this citadel starting boring rob and overrated punky chopra
#PRIYANKA CHOPRA IS literally making her country proud, after quantico it's literally the second time we have an real Indian, a real South Asian playing lead in an american series. Finally we have Indian not playing the typical stereotype roles of 2 secs in Hollywood, but still people seems to be always bashing and hating on her. Doesn't matter what she does to make her country proud, her own countrymen always seems to be dragging her. I see how no bollywood celebs even came forward to congratulate her* shame*
I dont agree with your take on the action bit The action in Citadel is way better than what we see in our movies like Pathan, and Priyanka Chopra has killed it. Deepika or Katrina don't even come close.
Sometimes it's hard to believe that you are able to draw a comparison between The Gray Man, Citadel & Pathaan, sometimes people slips... I will think of this as that kinda moment.
the comparison is of scale & what gets produced. While our films are working 1/100th of a budget, it's pretty crazy on how Citadel does not look exceptional visually
@@TriedRefusedProductions you don’t have to keep plugging Pathaan everywhere .. it was most ridiculous and illogical movie I’ve watched. Be truthful to your job that’s why people started following you in the first place for your authenticity. Stop hyping. Mediocre garbage ..
It's not only the budget, guess it's also how convincing they are... And that's the difference between both kinds of movies. Not sure if we have that kind of money to match them or not... And not sure if we will ever be able to put it also we will be able to make a 007.
Yes, it was truly cheesy. But I loveeeed how effortless Priyanka was throughout the episodes. She can kick some real asses. Also I just came back from a tiny lake-town (village more like) in the outskirts of Munich today and Citadel hoarding featuring her was all over. It was pure joy seeing these. As a desi, I couldn't have been prouder :)
Plz stop feeling proud of these self successful desis in foreign.lands . They aren't desis in reality ___ That's NOT much big success they have except in IT and CEOs sector
@@raghunandan9290 But why not? The world is a small place and life is only for so long. Who are we to define what's desi and what's not? And why can't we just be happy for someone doing good? Noe?
I think the action set pieces, especially Madden's, will get better cuz he progresses to become Mason Kane from Kyle and the glimpse of upcoming episodes look promising🔥
I have noticed that most people in our country are too casual and patronizing about PC's achievements. She is one of the first non-American n asian women to consolidate this status in Hollywood. Sometimes I don't understand the hatred PC gets from the Indian audiences. I have even heard people say things like she is too ambitious. The same people go gaga about Irfan Khan n Ali Fazal's hollywood stints or SRK's overseas popularity, but not about her.
HUH! I did not know this is a popular take! She is killing it and more power to her! Does not mean also, that one should not call out mid or mediocre content tho
It's good to know that, through your thumbnail you indirectly accepted that Pathan was a mediocre film. Otherwise, at the time of its release you were hailing it as a masterpiece.
Finally someone noticed!!! Again JAMMIE here has the audacity to rage Citadel for plot and conveniently putting Pathan action above. Compare karna Hain to acche se karo
I watched his both spoiler and non spoiler review of Pathaan in the review he never said or even trying to saying that Pathaan is a masterpiece film he just said in his review that just an entertaining film nothing else . You guys should stop crying about Pathaan because it won't changed the fact that Pathaan is an all time blockbuster film ❤❤
@@surajitthakur1507 The objection to ISI agent betraying ISI and helping RAW agent Pathaan is ridiculous by a "section" of Indians to bring the film down. Russia is a friendly nation is clearly stated many times in the film. It is a plot point which is why Nandini has to let Pathaan be arrested. Jim introduces Rubina as ex-ISI but she tells Pathaan she is still ISI and working undercover for over a year to take down Outfit X. This is a lie because Rubina betrays Pathaan for Jim. Ultimately she ends up helping Pathaan by betraying both Jim and ISI after finding out Jim is working for General Qadir and ISI extremists. Colonel Luthra repeatedly says she is ISI and ISI cannot be trusted and imprisons Rubina for questioning where she is tortured. Luthra also tells Pathaan that if they let Rubina go, Jim and ISI will both be looking for her. This clearly means Rubina has betrayed ISI and is effectively ex-ISI now by helping India. So the objection to ISI agents like Zoya and Rubina going rogue and helping India is ridiculous. Zoya is married and even has a baby with Tiger. Coming to Jim, his motivation is perfectly clear and believable. He got Veer Puraskar after he was presumed dead. We don't know how he recovered the medal. Traitors exist everywhere. It is a fictional story. Even in Mission Impossible, James Bond, Jason Bourne, many antagonists are Americans/Europeans. When Pathaan says that Rubai joined ISI to serve humanity, he was speaking from Rubai's point of view. Maybe it isn't clear from the dialogue but that's what it means. Pathaan suggests the best guess of what Rubai's reason could have been for joining ISI. Later in the film, she mentions ISI extremists working with Pakistani General Qadir who hired Jim to attack India and acquire Kashmir for Pakistan. The film never raises questions on India's decision about Article 370 or India's stand on Kashmir. What exactly do they want? Do they want the Spy Universe to explicitly villainize Pakistan, ISI, Pakistani army and Pakistani government? Would the mention of ISI's involvement in 26/11, Pakistan's war crimes like in Kargil War, what they did to the late Saurabh Kalia satisfy them?
@@surajitthakur1507 CITADEL is entertaining too, but he's literally bashing the series and sewing hate in twitter too* bro should just stick to mediocre action movies like pathan 😒
Dude Everything Everywhere all at once was produced(partially or fully) by Ruso brothers, which won oscars. They haven't had worst run after their marvel projects completely.
Keep watching....i was totally engaged with both episodes, was not expecting i was not seen all 6 episodes in one shot😢 PC showed what she is Capable of doing, so I'm satisfied with the 1st two episodes. I will be watching this series every 2 episodes!
'Kisi ka bhai kisi ka jaan' had me cheese dementia maybe that's why everything felt great to me, I guess bhaijaan has already treated me great amount of cheese that I can't !
The Pathaan action scene was the best in the entire movie, having him fight from other cell mates in a one shot take to Salman just jumping inside the train to the explosion Pathaan, mistakenly triggers was brilliance, wouldn't say anything about stuff after that but yeah that was the best scene in the entire movie. I know isn't related to Citadel but whenever Pathaan is mentinoed the scene just pops in my head.
I still have expectations from Citadel ... Priyanka is too good and I think the next episodes will be good ... The inner aunty within me also was rooting for Priyanka ...chori hamara naam Roshan kar rahi
Agree she's literally making her country proud, after quantico it's literally the second time we have an real Indian, a real South Asian playing lead in an american series. Finally we have Indian not playing the typical stereotype roles of 2 secs in Hollywood, but still people seems to be always bashing and hating on her. Doesn't matter what she does to make her country proud, her own countrymen always seems to be dragging her. I see how no bollywood celebs even came forward to congratulate her* shame*
@@barbz8382 They won't they are too busy celebrating mediocre performance like gangubai and promoting trash 🗑️ like Sara , Jhanvi, Ananya and Shanaya ... And PC doesn't care I guess
I have this feeling that Jammy should really review succession after it ends its final season in a few weeks. I'm not very sure if the traction of the show is the same in India, but it is really good. It's like a modern Shakespearean play where every character is a fkin narcissist.
I completely agree with your review. PC is fantastic in the first 2 episodes and RM seems way out of his depth. He lacked the chutzpah of the smooth talking and charisma of the main character in a genre like this. PC reminded me Roma from Don series. If only she had someone equally magnetic opposite her.
I totally loved the 2 episodes.. pop culture..stylish.. good chemistry between leads.. grt action and till now intriguing storyline.. And ofcoure Priyanka is on fire 🔥🔥🔥
@@TriedRefusedProductions Exactly, let's give the series, characters n actors more time to grow. We can have a stronger opinion when the series conclude
If this was Real and Gritty like a Anurag Kashyp film then we would be more emotionally invested not knowing who dies next, having a real fear for and connect with the actors. But its just a over the top series that karan johar at dharma makes all the time with sid *Malhotra, Shame, i was looking forward to it
Watched for our own desi girl & the king in the north and i was not disappointed at all while watching first 2 eps, especially those action sequences far more solid than yrf spy universe. 1st time i have watched a series which gave me james bond movies vibes.... by the way i watched in hdr and experience was beautiful especially that train sequence in 1st episode.
I agree. It was underwhelming. I didn't like that fact that PCJ had such less screen time given she is a lead. RM had more of a story. They didn't tell us what happened after she went to Valencia.
Always seen Richard Madden in serious roles... This is a first I've seen him in a relaxed role... A little bit of comic but yes he has done justice to the role...
Absolutely agree with the video title. Priyanka's character looks quite similar to dp's pathan character. I was excited to watch Pc in an action role after Quantico but so far not impressive. Stil I'm gonna watch the rest of the episodes. Let's see if there are any plot twists in store
Naah let's not compare deepika with peecee, deepika was just a bikini show piece in that cringe movie pathan. Meanwhile priyanka is fcn killing it in citadel as an real action spy agent*** LMAO
I like priyanka as a performer in this series . Its only 2 episodes ,just wait give some space let the whole series out . I know its going to be worth. But trust she is much better than Deepika and Kartina dumb acting in pathan and tiger . Please don't compare she is has much better and equally important role as Richards and I should say her role is better than Richard .her actions are not notch and acting is on fire
Has anyone realised that the only and every bad word in the dialogues were F_ck and Fu_king, but hats off to priyanka for her acting and stunts❤️ mason still has a long way to win my heart! And also i felt the screen play was a bit dragged
Anything with Richard is best in the world. It's Richard madden that made everyone fall for the show! The body guard man has made this drama best of the best!
This is to inform all you guys (even to jammy) This show Citadel is not a Russo Brothers directorial (just like Extraction & Extraction 2). They are just executive producers. Their name being put on the front page just so they could attract the viewers
I enjoyed citadel, priyanka's acting even more. somethings are meant to be enjoyed. if you want something made for critical acclaim there are hundreds of art movies. Plus just the first two episodes are out which are basically setting the scene.
I’m ngl I had zero expectations when I was about to watch this, and it still left me disappointed af. When it comes to Priyanka, I don’t get why she doesn’t go for dramatic roles instead of campy ones especially in Hollywood, is it cause she doesn’t receive such opportunities?
But the thing is Pathaan takes itself too seriously. Apart from the Train scene, where they embraced the comedy. Citadel is embracing this cheesy tone.
Pathaan vs 2 episodes of citadel. Same style, huge difference in scale but pathaan for all its faults to me was more entertaining both in theatres and on prime. And pathaan was made on 35m $ budget, citadel's first two episode along with promotion probably cost around 120m $. It was honestly disappointing as they had raised our expectations quite a lot with all the going worldwide plan and Russo brother product promotion.
Maybe I am in the minority here going by comments...but i didn't like it at all...i swear i am not biased. I was...am a huge Priyanka fan but this just didn't do anything for me. Even the fight sequences hasn't been anything we haven't seen before. Mediocre at best..i don't think I will be continuing with the series.
I'm convinced Richard can't pull off bond. They should look at someone else for 007. And have to say this but Pathan was better atleast compared to first 2 episodes.
@@kartiksharma2737 by mehanga Pathan he meant that this movie have cringe dialogues, average screenplay, less story, average acting and cheesy vfx. And he is true.
Those critics who have watched the third episode of Citadel claim it's the best episode so far and is where the series takesa turn. Im excited for next Friday
You guys were too quick to judge Citadel, it truly picks up pace from episode 3. The plot thickens, there are unexpected twists and turns and you truly start doubting everyone. I wish the Indian population truly gave it a chance but instead they ran to pass judgement when citadel was just introducing us to its characters.
While some of the plot and dialogues were corny, Richard madden and Stanley tucci were good together. I love PC offscreen but she kinda bothered me with her dialogue delivery. I know i am not providing constructive criticism. It's a feeling. I think the plot will thicken later. I will continue to fangirl over Richard madden and Leslie Manville(dahlia, madam ambassador)
I liked Stanley Tucci but Richard madden fell flat for me. PC was easily the best thing about it. She even seemed to carry off the fight scenes better.
If you told me that the dialogue writer of Brahmastra wrote the dialogues of this series, then I would totally believe you!
I am not kidding, the cheese was bordering on being just too much! I hope Raj & DK have their rendition sorted
I haven't watched the series yet, so I'm guessing by your comment that the female lead is always saying the male lead's name in the series. Right?
Well he is actually a good writer. Its just that the makers approved such things as they wanted to play safe by over simplifying dialogues for the masses but it turned into a mess
@@TriedRefusedProductions yupp i was thinking about how raj and dk would handle this so well
@@Anonymous-bf5fk Female lead here is more compelling than male lead..which jammy pointed out too
I think Priyanka was so effortless in this because she has done cheesy movies in Bollywood before but Richard on the other hand has mostly done serious roles and is kind of new to this campy style.
that's a very fair assessment!
This comment is gold 😂😂😂
Pc roles in Hollywood is cringe fest then Bollywood
I never understood the obsession for name "NADIA" in the west...
Aisha too
lol
Might just be easier to pronounce than Deepika or Priyanka whilst still sounding white
The same way Bollywood loves the name Zoya
@@SweetChilly0410 exactly
In MCU, The Russo brothers were always aided by good writers who always worked with them. Maybe that's why now their work doesn't seem that well written.
DEFINITELY a come down from a writing POV!
Guys
They are just executive producers here
They didn't directed this
Not just writers also already established characters with actors who knew what to do. The best thing marvel did in the first 3 stages was to take it slow and establish all the characters in the right way so the audience knew what they where talking about and why they where saying it like that. That why both infinity and end Game felt so inclusive and personal
@@iftyhuq4321 they were under the direction of keving feige directly.
Winter Soldier movie and it's characters... Best to come out of MCU...
I just noticed that the whole time while watching the show I was just waiting for Priyanka to come on screen... THIS WOMAN brings life to the screen. Anyway I think its too early to judge now. i know the pilot is suppose to grab you but I am hopeful... And I trust Priyanka's choices.
Was looking forward to her sequences too! It was rather stale without her
Cause baywatch was such a great choice
@@Shawn.Mathew It was her first big movie in the States... The cast was big... You gotta let that one slide Bhai. From Mary Kom to The Sky is Pink... She has earned my trust.
@@lungisileluu3458 PC's jhilmil and kashibai these two roles are so many times better than Hollywood famous stars actor's role 😎
@@screative3170 No doubt!!!
Priyanka puts her heart and soul into the character she plays , she's just amazing ❤
To be honest it didn't do anything groundbreaking but I'm just watching because of Prianka and she looks and acts as badass as ever.🤩🤩
SAME BOAT SAME BOAT!!
Cringy pajeeta. Citadel turned into Shitadel because of that currycel
That's why she got hired. They understand the Indian market.
The biggest plus for me in this series so far is Priyanka. Her acting, her realistic response to fight scenes is so good. I agree that Richard & Stanley didn't make an impression yet, I hope they do in coming episodes. I. Somehow hopeful about this series to impress us
West critics didn't like her acting....... another dud from Priyanka in west 😝
@@Helloji25 you know all the Western critics??
@@Helloji25 that's their opinion. I enjoyed the series till now. Can't understand why you're being so happy about this. You getting some money from those "West critics" or what??
@@adityamukherjee7038Bcz I waste my time after rejecting West critics & following indian critics.........& it is flopping all over.........sooo I'm happy
Btw Indian critics & youtube reviewers take payment for positive reviews,not audience like us 😌
@@Helloji25 it's released on OTT for god's sake so there's no number by which you can say it's a hit or a flop. Have some common sense before commenting
Do you really think Deepika Padukone was anywhere close to what Priyanka did in first two episodes. For Katrina role as Zoya, I can settle anyhow. But Rubie...that character was naive and here Nadia character is popping in the whole show not just for Indians but foreign critic praising her. Jammy you don't need to draw parallel everytime. Also Pathan and Citadel two episodes come on same page for bland plot
i laughed at that comparison.
The Indian version of citadel is in good hands. Though it is too early to tell but Samantha playing priyanka's character I'm sure she will do the justice. But having varun in show I'm not so sure. But it will be interesting to see how Raj & DK use him in this project. Fingers crossed✌️🏼
Varun and Samantha's characters are totally different than Richard & Priyanka's. Different narrative and story. The italian version and the indian version is going to connect with this main version in the future as I have heard in the interviews.
Your fingers are not crossed 🤞
I am a big fan of Priyanka and i absolutely love this show. 😂😂.. i know it's cheesy, nothing new to offer....but i enjoy old tried spy dramas.... So ya Citadel is my guilty pleasure 😂😂
I was just wishing for more ya!
@@TriedRefusedProductions I totally agree with you... Probably it's just the fan boy in me that makes any work of Priyanka just marvellous 😂😂.
Raj and DK are dependable directors and writers. Till now all of their projects have been really good. I truly believe and hope that the Indian rendition of Citadel would be great!
True.. saw the 2 episodes and they are so worth the wait.. both the actors are fabulous! Ppl who don't like it can go watch something else but let us enjoy who love them..
PC did very well and the series is good because of her action
Which is pretty ironic coz pathaan itself is a rich version of tashan and a bit improvement over saaho
Only prabhas knew what saaho was.
God pls give me the weed which you smoked before typing this Tashan r u srs dude 😂😂😂😂 and saaho hands down to u and ur supplier
@@iftyhuq4321 😆
Saaho's plot was 10x better than the spy universe ones
@@LeoDas411 Unfortunately, the lead was a worse actor than all the leads of Spy Universe. 😢
Citadel series First two episodes are cheesy but interesting
Fight scene's are just 🔥
Priyanka nailed it
Badass 💯
When I was young my teacher gave me the analogy of Indians are like crabs. She was trying to teach us to be happy about other peoples success. Feels so true today.
I don't know whether I should feel irritated that most people didn't realize that the one-take combat sequence in the train in Pathaan was NOT done by SRK (but by the stuntman whose face was replaced by SRK's in post-production) or whether to feel proud for YashRaj's VFX team who managed to pull it off so convincingly.....
You lost me when you compared this to Pathan and even further when you compared PC to Deepika in Pathan.
Agreed 💯
Totally agreed
Priyanka is goddess and god is a woman . Priyanka is the powerhouse of acting. She is the best actress ever in history . She is Genius and living Legend . Love you p.c from boston .
I hope raj and dk do with citadel what they did with family man
I HOPE SO TOO! They killed it with Farzi too
U mean a remake?
@@riteshpradhan6737 Citadel India is a Spin-off of this Citadel. Part of the same Universe.
@@riteshpradhan6737 they are making spin off of citadel all over the world there is gonna be a French version
@@riteshpradhan6737 What Raj and dk is actually making a spin off citadel. You mean to say I now have to see this citadel starting boring rob and overrated punky chopra
Every Hollywood movie is same these days " protecting nuclear codes" 😂😂
yes yes, even I felt the same. Protecting world, saviour of the universe.
#PRIYANKA CHOPRA IS literally making her country proud, after quantico it's literally the second time we have an real Indian, a real South Asian playing lead in an american series. Finally we have Indian not playing the typical stereotype roles of 2 secs in Hollywood, but still people seems to be always bashing and hating on her. Doesn't matter what she does to make her country proud, her own countrymen always seems to be dragging her. I see how no bollywood celebs even came forward to congratulate her* shame*
❤❤❤❤❤
I dont agree with your take on the action bit
The action in Citadel is way better than what we see in our movies like Pathan, and Priyanka Chopra has killed it. Deepika or Katrina don't even come close.
@@binthamadicamara2077 😂okay
True
Richard Madden is tremendous in bodyguard, I am really rooting for him in citadel.
Priyanka Chopra is the best thing abt the show
I lovee the Citadel , can’t wait to see more episodes
Priyanka is amazing❤
Sometimes it's hard to believe that you are able to draw a comparison between The Gray Man, Citadel & Pathaan, sometimes people slips... I will think of this as that kinda moment.
the comparison is of scale & what gets produced. While our films are working 1/100th of a budget, it's pretty crazy on how Citadel does not look exceptional visually
@@TriedRefusedProductions you don’t have to keep plugging Pathaan everywhere .. it was most ridiculous and illogical movie I’ve watched. Be truthful to your job that’s why people started following you in the first place for your authenticity. Stop hyping. Mediocre garbage ..
@@TriedRefusedProductions Naah just stick to pathan, and lick their tatte. Your review's are getting unnecessary irrelevant now*
It's not only the budget, guess it's also how convincing they are... And that's the difference between both kinds of movies. Not sure if we have that kind of money to match them or not... And not sure if we will ever be able to put it also we will be able to make a 007.
@@TriedRefusedProductions And what about the comparison in acting, believability....
Yes, it was truly cheesy. But I loveeeed how effortless Priyanka was throughout the episodes. She can kick some real asses. Also I just came back from a tiny lake-town (village more like) in the outskirts of Munich today and Citadel hoarding featuring her was all over. It was pure joy seeing these. As a desi, I couldn't have been prouder :)
Plz stop feeling proud of these self successful desis in foreign.lands .
They aren't desis in reality
___ That's NOT much big success they have except in IT and CEOs sector
@@raghunandan9290 But why not? The world is a small place and life is only for so long. Who are we to define what's desi and what's not? And why can't we just be happy for someone doing good? Noe?
I think the action set pieces, especially Madden's, will get better cuz he progresses to become Mason Kane from Kyle and the glimpse of upcoming episodes look promising🔥
They should have released all the episodes, because a mixed talk might affect the viewership for subsequent episodes.
I have noticed that most people in our country are too casual and patronizing about PC's achievements. She is one of the first non-American n asian women to consolidate this status in Hollywood. Sometimes I don't understand the hatred PC gets from the Indian audiences. I have even heard people say things like she is too ambitious. The same people go gaga about Irfan Khan n Ali Fazal's hollywood stints or SRK's overseas popularity, but not about her.
What's wrong with Irfan Khan ?
HUH! I did not know this is a popular take! She is killing it and more power to her! Does not mean also, that one should not call out mid or mediocre content tho
Its simple misogyny. I feel like indians love to slander the stars, especially women
@@connorcoco2152 yep
@@TriedRefusedProductions Not the review, I'm talking about the social media chatter in general for the past many years, since Quantico.
It's good to know that, through your thumbnail you indirectly accepted that Pathan was a mediocre film. Otherwise, at the time of its release you were hailing it as a masterpiece.
Finally someone noticed!!! Again JAMMIE here has the audacity to rage Citadel for plot and conveniently putting Pathan action above. Compare karna Hain to acche se karo
He's biased af ...Pathaan wasn't mediocre it was trash dude ...
I watched his both spoiler and non spoiler review of Pathaan in the review he never said or even trying to saying that Pathaan is a masterpiece film he just said in his review that just an entertaining film nothing else . You guys should stop crying about Pathaan because it won't changed the fact that Pathaan is an all time blockbuster film ❤❤
@@surajitthakur1507 The objection to ISI agent betraying ISI and helping RAW agent Pathaan is ridiculous by a "section" of Indians to bring the film down.
Russia is a friendly nation is clearly stated many times in the film. It is a plot point which is why Nandini has to let Pathaan be arrested.
Jim introduces Rubina as ex-ISI but she tells Pathaan she is still ISI and working undercover for over a year to take down Outfit X. This is a lie because Rubina betrays Pathaan for Jim. Ultimately she ends up helping Pathaan by betraying both Jim and ISI after finding out Jim is working for General Qadir and ISI extremists.
Colonel Luthra repeatedly says she is ISI and ISI cannot be trusted and imprisons Rubina for questioning where she is tortured. Luthra also tells Pathaan that if they let Rubina go, Jim and ISI will both be looking for her. This clearly means Rubina has betrayed ISI and is effectively ex-ISI now by helping India.
So the objection to ISI agents like Zoya and Rubina going rogue and helping India is ridiculous. Zoya is married and even has a baby with Tiger.
Coming to Jim, his motivation is perfectly clear and believable. He got Veer Puraskar after he was presumed dead. We don't know how he recovered the medal. Traitors exist everywhere. It is a fictional story. Even in Mission Impossible, James Bond, Jason Bourne, many antagonists are Americans/Europeans.
When Pathaan says that Rubai joined ISI to serve humanity, he was speaking from Rubai's point of view. Maybe it isn't clear from the dialogue but that's what it means. Pathaan suggests the best guess of what Rubai's reason could have been for joining ISI.
Later in the film, she mentions ISI extremists working with Pakistani General Qadir who hired Jim to attack India and acquire Kashmir for Pakistan. The film never raises questions on India's decision about Article 370 or India's stand on Kashmir.
What exactly do they want? Do they want the Spy Universe to explicitly villainize Pakistan, ISI, Pakistani army and Pakistani government? Would the mention of ISI's involvement in 26/11, Pakistan's war crimes like in Kargil War, what they did to the late Saurabh Kalia satisfy them?
@@surajitthakur1507 CITADEL is entertaining too, but he's literally bashing the series and sewing hate in twitter too* bro should just stick to mediocre action movies like pathan 😒
Dude Everything Everywhere all at once was produced(partially or fully) by Ruso brothers, which won oscars. They haven't had worst run after their marvel projects completely.
I totally loved the 2 episodes and Pc acting is extremely good
Keep watching....i was totally engaged with both episodes, was not expecting i was not seen all 6 episodes in one shot😢 PC showed what she is Capable of doing, so I'm satisfied with the 1st two episodes. I will be watching this series every 2 episodes!
'Kisi ka bhai kisi ka jaan' had me cheese dementia maybe that's why everything felt great to me, I guess bhaijaan has already treated me great amount of cheese that I can't !
The Pathaan action scene was the best in the entire movie, having him fight from other cell mates in a one shot take to Salman just jumping inside the train to the explosion Pathaan, mistakenly triggers was brilliance, wouldn't say anything about stuff after that but yeah that was the best scene in the entire movie.
I know isn't related to Citadel but whenever Pathaan is mentinoed the scene just pops in my head.
Pathaan is garbage🤢🤮 KGF 2 far better than cringe movies like Pathan, Bahubali and RRR😈
Jammy, I agree a 100%.
Felt the same about RM's awkwardness, action sequences and dialogues
Wasn’t Pathaan a sasti Mission impossible, like mission impossible on clearance sale
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I still have expectations from Citadel ... Priyanka is too good and I think the next episodes will be good ... The inner aunty within me also was rooting for Priyanka ...chori hamara naam Roshan kar rahi
Kya roshan kar rahi hai gore ka lunde muh may lekar?
Agree she's literally making her country proud, after quantico it's literally the second time we have an real Indian, a real South Asian playing lead in an american series. Finally we have Indian not playing the typical stereotype roles of 2 secs in Hollywood, but still people seems to be always bashing and hating on her. Doesn't matter what she does to make her country proud, her own countrymen always seems to be dragging her. I see how no bollywood celebs even came forward to congratulate her* shame*
@@barbz8382 They won't they are too busy celebrating mediocre performance like gangubai and promoting trash 🗑️ like Sara , Jhanvi, Ananya and Shanaya ... And PC doesn't care I guess
I have this feeling that Jammy should really review succession after it ends its final season in a few weeks. I'm not very sure if the traction of the show is the same in India, but it is really good. It's like a modern Shakespearean play where every character is a fkin narcissist.
I completely agree with your review. PC is fantastic in the first 2 episodes and RM seems way out of his depth.
He lacked the chutzpah of the smooth talking and charisma of the main character in a genre like this.
PC reminded me Roma from Don series. If only she had someone equally magnetic opposite her.
Lol. Richard is fantastic in this and srk sucks.
Russo bros films are hit n miss for me but I'm fan of there action sequence.... Extraction 2 promo was ✨⚡
They are becoming rohit shetty and prabhu deva duo
But Extraction 2 is being produced by them, the reason why the action set pieces stand out is because of Sam Hargrave
Extraction 2 is not directed by them
@@TriedRefusedProductions Isn't Citadel also only their production not directorial
@@yogendraawasthi1180 Main director are Russo brothers
I really love your channel😍 i even decide whether to watch movies based on your analysis 🤭
I totally loved the 2 episodes.. pop culture..stylish.. good chemistry between leads.. grt action and till now intriguing storyline.. And ofcoure Priyanka is on fire 🔥🔥🔥
I just watched it for "The King in the North"
kind of meh till now & this comes from an absolute fan!
Same. Richar madden is a gem! His work has been nothing short of exceptional.
@@TriedRefusedProductions Exactly, let's give the series, characters n actors more time to grow. We can have a stronger opinion when the series conclude
If this was Real and Gritty like a Anurag Kashyp film then we would be more emotionally invested not knowing who dies next, having a real fear for and connect with the actors. But its just a over the top series that karan johar at dharma makes all the time with sid *Malhotra, Shame, i was looking forward to it
its too glossy man!
@@TriedRefusedProductions my thoughts exactly 💯💯 keep up the gud work ✊
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Chalo he’s learnt the words “action set pieces” and will use it all year
the only reason the action set piece in the train in Pathaan looked good is because they used stund doubles and face replacement.
The novel Grey Man is gritty and very good. But the movie was so shallow that it felt like they just took the name and changed the entire story.
Watched for our own desi girl & the king in the north and i was not disappointed at all while watching first 2 eps, especially those action sequences far more solid than yrf spy universe. 1st time i have watched a series which gave me james bond movies vibes.... by the way i watched in hdr and experience was beautiful especially that train sequence in 1st episode.
Comparing a 300 million budget series to a mulla stars cheap action movie shows your intelligence
@@flyingmonke SRK is way more popular than Richard Madden. Digest that fact.
@@flyingmonke abhi bhi mirchi lagi padi hai 🤣🤣 Pathan boycott nhi karpaye kya🤣🤣
Agent Tina delivers more Brilliant Action and intrigue in her role than the 2 episodes of Citadel
Clown!
I love and Awe Priyanka... 😘!
I agree. It was underwhelming. I didn't like that fact that PCJ had such less screen time given she is a lead. RM had more of a story. They didn't tell us what happened after she went to Valencia.
The story just started, the whole second episode and 1st half of the 1st episode revolve around her
Arey keep watching, it truly picks up from episode 3
Always seen Richard Madden in serious roles... This is a first I've seen him in a relaxed role... A little bit of comic but yes he has done justice to the role...
Priyanka, as a bad-ass female action star, rivals Ana d'Armas! Good for her that all her extraordinarily hard work and focus is paying off!
no one is comparable to the divine ana d armas.. never dare to compare my ana with anyone again,..
One woman who has the entire country rooting for her! The left. The right. The centre.
Not everyone @Bhawna
@@redshadow4064 keep crying..
nobody cares
She deserves it.
Nobody cares to be honest
When is Raj & DK guns and gulabs is coming out?
CAN'T WAIT FOR IT TOO!
I admire your strong optimism. It's so obvious that these shows are doomed for a grand failure. Hope you're correct and I'm wrong
Let's hope for the best for the coming episodes.
Loved every bit of this show. It is really awesome 👏
Absolutely agree with the video title. Priyanka's character looks quite similar to dp's pathan character. I was excited to watch Pc in an action role after Quantico but so far not impressive. Stil I'm gonna watch the rest of the episodes. Let's see if there are any plot twists in store
Naah let's not compare deepika with peecee, deepika was just a bikini show piece in that cringe movie pathan. Meanwhile priyanka is fcn killing it in citadel as an real action spy agent*** LMAO
Too quick to judge, keep watching, the show really picks up from episode 3
I think tried and refused is one of the best critics in India today if not the best I wanted to say that for long time
Now I said it 😀
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this thread will fight you
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@@TriedRefusedProductions No one
I think more serious and substantial roles suit Richard Madden better- be it Rob Stark or in Bodyguard
0:56 Extraction is also produced and written by the Russo Brothers like Citadel is!
I like priyanka as a performer in this series . Its only 2 episodes ,just wait give some space let the whole series out . I know its going to be worth. But trust she is much better than Deepika and Kartina dumb acting in pathan and tiger . Please don't compare she is has much better and equally important role as Richards and I should say her role is better than Richard .her actions are not notch and acting is on fire
Has anyone realised that the only and every bad word in the dialogues were F_ck and Fu_king, but hats off to priyanka for her acting and stunts❤️ mason still has a long way to win my heart! And also i felt the screen play was a bit dragged
Anything with Richard is best in the world. It's Richard madden that made everyone fall for the show! The body guard man has made this drama best of the best!
This is to inform all you guys (even to jammy)
This show Citadel is not a Russo Brothers directorial (just like Extraction & Extraction 2). They are just executive producers. Their name being put on the front page just so they could attract the viewers
Before watching any movie or series I just watch your review about it and u do such fantastic job and I love u♥♥
just for comparison, Casino Royale had a budget of $150 Million
THATS ABSOLUTELY INSANE!
150M in 2006.
I think you forgot to consider inflation.
Peecee rocks that’s wat is important now she ll get more offers she is the bedt
Loved the both episodes
YRF shud bring pc in their spy universe.... It cud be a total blast... if katrina, DP & PC come in action along with kabir, pathaan and tiger......
He is the King in the North. He can't be cheesy..
Jammy's context setting in the initial portion of his reviews are toooo loooong. Keep it crisp, bro.
Btw, Richard Madden is a Hugh Jackman wannabe.
I enjoyed citadel, priyanka's acting even more. somethings are meant to be enjoyed. if you want something made for critical acclaim there are hundreds of art movies. Plus just the first two episodes are out which are basically setting the scene.
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I’m ngl I had zero expectations when I was about to watch this, and it still left me disappointed af. When it comes to Priyanka, I don’t get why she doesn’t go for dramatic roles instead of campy ones especially in Hollywood, is it cause she doesn’t receive such opportunities?
She is working with mainstream Hollywood. They're a bit disconnected from the audience. That's why she's choosing the wrong films and shoes
Priyanka have an important role in citadel, unlike FL of Pathaan😅
@@connorcoco2152 female lead
Deepika did have an important role in Pathaan.
*Priyanka has
@@Thatonlyone678 thanks, the reason I visit this channel.
@@shipsflying couldn't you just say Deepika Padukone ? Shortening words, at what profit 😆
But the thing is Pathaan takes itself too seriously. Apart from the Train scene, where they embraced the comedy. Citadel is embracing this cheesy tone.
Dear jammy,
We are waiting for your video on the kerela story.
Please do make a video on the kerela story.
Thank you ❤️
Pathaan vs 2 episodes of citadel. Same style, huge difference in scale but pathaan for all its faults to me was more entertaining both in theatres and on prime. And pathaan was made on 35m $ budget, citadel's first two episode along with promotion probably cost around 120m $. It was honestly disappointing as they had raised our expectations quite a lot with all the going worldwide plan and Russo brother product promotion.
We need Priyanka Chopra as Roma in Don 3 but Farhan Akhtar wants to make an all-female version of ZNMD that nobody wants to watch 😭
Maybe I am in the minority here going by comments...but i didn't like it at all...i swear i am not biased. I was...am a huge Priyanka fan but this just didn't do anything for me. Even the fight sequences hasn't been anything we haven't seen before. Mediocre at best..i don't think I will be continuing with the series.
Jammy - make a video on immortal Ashwatthama plz
Howcome you havent made a video on Vikramaditya Montwane's Jubilee and especially its music album!!
I'm convinced Richard can't pull off bond. They should look at someone else for 007. And have to say this but Pathan was better atleast compared to first 2 episodes.
The story is done to death though. Pc does a good job as expected.
Pathaan has some mediocre vfx shots to be honest but citadel is simply excellent
I mean its a 2000 crore budget difference
To be honest budget of Citadel is Ten times of Pathaan
Budget is 2000 cr man
@@TriedRefusedProductions but dude it's still not a mehnga pathaan 🙏
@@kartiksharma2737 by mehanga Pathan he meant that this movie have cringe dialogues, average screenplay, less story, average acting and cheesy vfx. And he is true.
Those critics who have watched the third episode of Citadel claim it's the best episode so far and is where the series takesa turn.
Im excited for next Friday
*FINGERS CROSSED*
I will directly go for varun dhawan's version, frankly speaking, this one doesn't excited me a bit.
Not the title cracking me up lol
I'm waiting for you insight on Jubilee.. where is it ?
I really loved this series specially priyanka's acting skill. Please don't compare with pathan, there's no comparison at all.
You guys were too quick to judge Citadel, it truly picks up pace from episode 3. The plot thickens, there are unexpected twists and turns and you truly start doubting everyone. I wish the Indian population truly gave it a chance but instead they ran to pass judgement when citadel was just introducing us to its characters.
Briefcase retrieval was so funny😂
While some of the plot and dialogues were corny, Richard madden and Stanley tucci were good together. I love PC offscreen but she kinda bothered me with her dialogue delivery. I know i am not providing constructive criticism. It's a feeling. I think the plot will thicken later. I will continue to fangirl over Richard madden and Leslie Manville(dahlia, madam ambassador)
I liked Stanley Tucci but Richard madden fell flat for me. PC was easily the best thing about it. She even seemed to carry off the fight scenes better.
The thumbnail of the video is very good 😂
why are you not making video on "the kerala story" trailer???
Absolutely agree. Hard to believe these #Russobrothers cameup with Infinity war. Everything they have done after that is so clearly nonsense.
Hi Jammy....why didn't you make any video on THE KERELA STORY?