GN-z11 Walt Disney had nothing to do with the Disney's choice to buy Lucasfilm, because he was dead long before that, so unless you hate him for another reason, there isn't a reason for you to hate him.
EU fan: "Did you ever hear the tragedy of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (EU)?". New fan: "No". EU fan: "I thought not. It's not a story Disney will ever tell you. They're so-called Star Wars Legends. The Star Wars Expanded Universe (EU) was a collection of novels, comics, video games, animated series, the Star Wars Holiday Special, TV movies, radio dramas, roleplay games, reference books, magazine issues and HoloNet reports from 1976 until 2014 so beloved and well-respected it could use the existing lore of the Star Wars Universe to create new stories and characters. It had such a deep knowledge of the Star Wars Universe it could keep the fans it cared about from leaving the franchise". New fan: "It could actually keep the fans it cared from leaving the franchise?". EU fan: "The Star Wars Expanded Universe is a pathway to many stories some would consider non-canonical. It became so big and expansive the only thing it was afraid of was being decanonized by someone else in charge, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, it taught their new owner Disney everything it knew, then they killed it on April 25, 2014. Ironic, the Clone Wars could still be canon but not the Expanded Universe". New fan: "Is it possible to learn these stories?". EU fan: "Not from Disney".
@Alan Yablonski Well,the Big Bang is said to happen 13.000.000.000 BBY. We think it happened about 13.7 billion years ago,that means Star Wars takes place (13.7 - 13) billion years ago.
@@СозданиеБезымянное to be fair Star Wars timelines converge at 0 BBY which is a new hope It's always interesting how that the first one even knowing why
Load of BS, everything in nature points to a supremely thoughtful & masterful designer. But we'd prefer to believe we descended from animals, have virtually zero purpose for existing & that somehow our galaxy & everything in it came about by some cosmic miracle? Would be easier to believe Star Wars was non-fiction.
This is why i love Star Wars. So deep, so many individuals that worked, dreamt, created and expanded an universe together. This is an heritage that the Disney deal can't erase.
Only Star Wars Here there is always a Dark Side which is explain you the light is lie every time light get power darkness overthrow him this circle gum completing again and again and again so at the last no 30 year passed no 30 year from future this is story as always on earth time is just like a bookmark in our history
+The Stupendous Wave Watching all these made me realize how insignificant Anakin Skywalker was even though even in the Legends canon, he WAS the Chosen One. Him bringing balance to the force was ultimately/mostly thwarted by a Tusken-adopted human who was 100+ years old ( he was the only Sith who was really a threat after the Empire). I mean what the actual goddamn fuck?! Darth Krayt was just their failed attempt of trying to tie in the entire canon no matter what.
Canon doesn't really pick up until around 100 BBY. But that's to be expected since canon has only existed for less than 5 years and legends has existed for about 30. Right now legends is better than canon but that's probably just because it's had more time to develop. It'll be interesting to see what canon looks like in a few decades.
The Jedi keep dying out and the Sith keep coming back for short periods of time where they fail to control the galaxy. Basically, Force-users keep screwing up.
It's more than that really, the Jedi and Sith orders are both smaller parts of the same 'lineage' of Force-Using traditions. They are Thesis and Antithesis to each other... the history after the formation and fall of the ancient Je'daii can be considered a metaphorical (and violent) dialogue between the two repeatedly failing to achieve Synthesis or a re-forming of the Je'daii as a whole.
+Pewpewboomshot that would make sense if only the post Return of the Jedi stuff was retconed. Why cant the Force Wars be canon? Or any of the Old Republic timeline? That stuff that happens way before the prequels doesn't affect Disneys ability to make sequels with new stories.
@@jamesh7540 the old canon has the force as a balencing force, the jedi are the light and the sith the darkness. the force wants this to be equal between the two, so if there are jedi but no sith suddenly sith start popping up. if you want a good idea on this look at the philsohsy of darth traya.
@@inszel I understand that idea, but it contradicts GL's statements, which is basically the Word of God in this universe. Or was until Disney bought it.
I can just picture someone saying hmm I wonder if there is any back story to star wars oh look heres a video there probably isn't much *taps vid 13 billion years ago the galaxy was formed Oh umm ok....
James Miller I thought the same thing! I had never watched this channel. Didn’t even know it existed for over a year, but that will change. It will become “click bait” for me now. I think everyone who knew about it should have brought it to my attention......(I’ll get over that now😅)
I can describe how the sequels would've been better with 2 words Yuuzhan-Vong War But than again Legends is the real canon not this crap we were given by Disney
“Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be.” -Kathleen Kennedy
@DejaVoodooDoll Hey, I can post random quotes too. "After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story--however many films it took to tell--was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were nto stories that I was destined to tell. Instead they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga." - George Lucas in foreward to 1995's release of "Splinter of the Mind's Eye". What was your point?
@DejaVoodooDoll Lol, wut? I did not spin any quote. I just pasted it, just like you did. And asked what was your point, because I genuenly don't know what were you trying to achieve. But since we are at it, you really need considerable imagination to twist "it is not my universe, but I try to keep it coherent with mine" into "it's not my movie, so it's not canon", especialy when Lucas called it all one "saga"
@DejaVoodooDoll If Lucas was insistant that Luke should be a hermit, then why didn't you post a quote, where Lucas says so? He did not like Mara, but he allowed her to exist nontheless, despite banning many other Thrawn Trillogy concepts, like origins if Vader's mask, or Obi-Wan's clone. But you did not post quotes that could support that either. LucasFilm only tried to keep to 2014's Canon when creating the sequels, true. But "trying to be original, despite having ready material" is not the same as "ignoring that there is material". My bad, the quotes, are actually relevant, especialy the second one. It proves that Lucas cared about SW as a whole and even if an SW work wasn't his, he tried to keep SW coherent. Which calls Kennedy out on her bullshit, when she says that there is no material
Pretty much. Stories were being written at several points throughout the timeline at the time that legends was cancelled, but that's as far forward as the story went.
0:11-14:15 The Old Republic Era 14:15 Rise of The Galactic Empire Imperial Age 15:45 Rise of the New Republic New Republic Age 19:20 The One-Sith Takeover 19:45 Rise of The Galactic Triumvirate
TFA is the root of the problem. Redoing Rebels vs Empire and returning to the status quo doesn't make any sense, doesn't continue the saga in any meaningful way and effectively crippled the trilogy. The Vong War and the One Sith actually made for new interesting story arcs.
@@That_Guy00 That’s true, so weird that they were so proud of the same concept George Lucas used back in the 70’s, and they use it now like we haven’t had enough stories of resilient rebels standing against an almighty force of evil. Thing is, I feel like if that could’ve worked. Force Awakens is practically just A New Hope, but if they we’re going to use this familiar structure as a way to tell a new story, it could’ve worked. Or better yet, though the Yuzhon-Vong War isn’t my favorite storyline, FA building up to our heroes discovering a threat much like the Yuzhon-Vong would’ve truly been a site to see. Imagine leaving the theater after seeing that!
basically sith and jedi where one order in the beginning researching the force, one day a few of them discovered the dark side and then "the dark side is better then the light side", "no the light side is better then the dark side" and so on. And that is the real reason for the war betwen jedi and sith.
Kinda played with with Cade Skywalker, he just wants to be a pirate and do drugs, but destiny keeps dragging him into galactic affairs against his will.
Legends: The Sith are a species that are connected to the dark side and knowing this the jedi genocide them, leaving feew left and causing a Galactic rivalry. Canon: Oh uhh some guy was a jedi but then he didn't like being good so he became bad and so some of his followers join him.
Model RK800 They actually were, Tcw season 6 just squeezed into legends I believe(maybe not episodes like sacrifice where Disney renamed Korriban to Moraband.)
Legends is so freaking awesome compared to the stuff Disney puts out. Like seriously the overall Legends story as shown in this video is pure epic. It actually makes sense considering what happened in the Star Wars movies, and it makes me really sad knowing that this stuff isn’t canon anymore
I'm at least happy they can't touch it. NO ONE at Lucasfilm could do it justice. No, not Dave Filoni, not Jon Favreau, _NO ONE._ That said, Legends could still thrive, if it was allowed to be continued by outside entities, like Hasbro, Marvel, Del Rey, and yet they won't do that, lol. What a creatively bankrupt company.
@@saberiandream316 legends is so awesome but in the Disneyverse they steal the chosen one title from Anakin skywalker and Rey is the one to permanently end the Sith. You made a good point, Disney can’t screw up legends,
Well most of it could still be canon in the Disney stuff. For example the Final Order squads were named after old Sith, making me believe it is canon. And even if it wasn’t, it is to me. All of it has happened no matter what Disney says and screw those sequels
I hope Star Wars legends is never forgotten. It seems that Star Wars is going to live for a long time, and the chances of a legends movie become lower and lower.
+Elias Sen Doudouh keep in mind Pablo Hidalgo, Dave Filoni and a lot of writers get to decide what they put in their stories. Disney can stop them from doing something dumb like claiming Chewbacca just had a speech impediment but they're already bringing back a lot of old star wars material.
*Real Star Wars Legends (Expanded Universe):* You took everything from me. *Disney:* I don't even know who you are. *Real Star Wars Legends (Expanded Universe):* You will.
I wouldn't necessarily say the prequels ruined the OT or vice-versa. But Ep3 did twist itself in temporal knots and it seems the best parts of 2 and 3 ended up on the cutting room floor.
Happy Star Wars Day everyone! I wanted to do something special for all of you, so here's my longest video yet! I wanted to make this video so fans who aren't familiar with Legends stories can get a basic idea of what happened when. I tried to approach Legends like a history book would and focused on the events and characters that had the most impact on galactic history. Inevitably, some things were left out. So if there's anything you want to see covered, make sure to leave a comment here and I'll make sure to do a full video on the topic in the future! I hope you enjoy this labor of love, and may the Force be with you all!
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+Star Wars Minute this video is like 20 episodes in 1 good job man
Thank you so much, this is simply amazing!!! I can't really say nice job, this is too good for that kind of compliment. Once again, thank you. I think this video proves that every Star Wars fan should be subscribed to you. Happy May the 4th, and may the force be with you too.
karen hall I personally consider them two alternate universes, for me there is no timeline that is real or not real, there are just two alternate timelines.(although legends is my favourite timeline)
This is random and its odd to bring in but whatever What disney should have done is similar to what netherelm studios did with the mortal kombat series Take content trim the exes fat chamge a bit so the most of it made sense and make that content mainstream while still paying respect to the orgin of your new stuff
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 then they ruined his name with the force awakens. starkiller base would have been more cooler if it killed stars instead of wah wah blow up planet haha death star 3 go brrr
@@VeeTOHFan Yeah I agree, it was a slap in the face to his name but you might wanna rewatch it, for its power it literally drains a star's energy so it literally does kill stars, just uses them as fuel instead of making them go supernova with its canon
It might just be because im more of a sci-fi person, but I don't like how magical and fantastical this is. Everything has to do with the force and everybodys some overpowered god
It is so frustrating growing up inspired by such a unique and vast lore and then have a corporation come and say that none of it is true anymore and rewrite everything you grew up with.
Ryan Davidson "it's all a wheel going round and round. It's a beautiful dream, stopping the wheel. You are not the first to try." "I don't wish to stop the wheel, I will break it."
hey there SWE theres a couple things i would like to offer corrections for: -Bane took the title Darth *before* killing the dark brotherhood, not after or because of the accomplishment -Palpatine did *not* initially comission the clone army. Syfo Dias did. Then told Hego Damask (Plagueiss) of his intentions.. then 10 yrs later Sidious sent Dooku to assasinate Dias and assume funding to the Kaminoans and have them install the order 66 chip
Luke was never given a death in Legends, we know he's dead in Cade's timeline as we see his Force Ghost, but we never knew how he died because Disney bought Star Wars before we could.
Quantum-Kakarotto Read your post over again. "Luke was never given a death", "we know he's dead in Cade's timeline". We don't know HOW he died, but we know he died.
In all honesty, I just view Legends and Disney Canon as two different timelines. Two different ways each story played out, with the stuff Disney allowed to be Canon, like the movies, being the only car instant. Even then, the events that lead up to these events are different as well. Two different equally real realities. This is just my head cannon, so anyone else can think differently.
Well, I figured since they are in a separate galaxy from us that they would be considered aliens to humans like us. Granted humans only exist on Earth. They can be humans if in George Lucas' world the Human species can exist on more than one galaxy and way before the humans of Earth existed.
Well, you could also think of it as, since this was a galaxy far far away, and it took place a long time ago, maybe they managed to create tech that allowed them to come to our galaxy, where they found earth and settled there, thus creating the first humans on Earth. Maybe they had crash landed, too, and lost their tech, or were abandoned by their captain or whatever, thus forcing them to become primitive.
I would love to see the "insanely long" video explaining EVERYTHING in the Legends galactic history. I would really like watching that! Even if it was a couple hours long. I think you should make a video like that for people like me who appreciate stuff like that and like watching long videos about the history of certain things. :) This video was great tho, covered pretty much all the important major things in a nice descriptive way that was quick for people who like the shorter videos. If possible, I really would like to see the long video of everything in the history of the galaxy....
I must have missed it. Did you not mention Darth Plagueis, the Wise? 13:16 Bane 13:45 Ruusan Reformation Sith secretly amass 14:15 Sidious (32 BBY) Clone Wars (22 BBY) RotS (19 BBY)
@@mikapoful wait you like a green milk drinking and dying after a simple force illusion luke skywalker more than a black hole manipulating luke skywalker??
Can you please explain to me how *exactly* YOU get to define what both “true fans” and “real Star Wars” is? ...because unless it’s fan fiction, I’m pretty sure you’re wrong.
The Fifth Great Schism came in 2008 with TCW. The Disney management was slowly creeping in as George Lucas lessened his reins on the company and they falsely promoted Dave Filoni as a "lore master" who got very defensive and standoffish when put on the spot and shortly thereafter started insisting "the EU was never part of George's universe," using his talking points to undermine the spirit of his words. The canon war began in 2008. We lost. Disney won. The rest of it was just playacting.
The New Empire lucasflims did it because it was going to.be a pain in the ass to adapt for the mainstream audience. They have slowly brought many of this back.
Lavon Media Oh no the writers have to do actual work. They surely dont have an entire galaxy to work with. There puny creative procces can't write a story. Lets just reboot it and pander it to the tumblor crowd and alienate the fanbase that threw there money to see star wars only to not throw money at it no more. It is okay we got the new generation who care not of art and story telling. Lets make sure we target them to sell more toys of our reboot. Now with that sarcasm out of the way you do relise rebootd hardly ever work? If the evil dead reboot failed and gosthbuster reboot failed and robocop reboot failed. Why make a new reboot? You don't reboot art. I don't see anyone rebooting the mona lisa. You know why it didn't need it. If your writers can't add on to a story and need to rebooy an entire galaxy. You got bad writers. Fo you know how big an entire galaxy is? Unlimited opportunity. When bethseda bought out fallout they did not reboot it they expanded the world. Disney can't expand a galaxy but a gaming company can expande an entire country. That's really bad if ypu compare the size scale from a world building point of view.
Look, I love the EU, but there was just way too much to adapt for even two new sets of trilogies. We're talking decades of books, some better than others, that most Star Wars fans, at best, only know portions of. Mark Hamill, Carrie Fischer, and Harrison Ford were too old for them to adapt anything earlier than the Galactic Alliance Era, and how can you possibly start a book accurate Darth Caedus trilogy without first having done the Solo children's development and the Yuuzhan Vong War? Again, I love the EU, but they had to separate the films and the old novels into two separate timelines. It would have been a logistical nightmare and an incomprehensible mess otherwise.
Hopefully they will make a Force War, Hut wars, Infinte Empire, Mandalorian wars, Ancient human expansion, Revan, Great Hyperspace War, Exar Kun War, New Sith War, Zygerian Empire, Great Galatic War, Kel Dor Empire (I think they would make cool villians), Trandoshan Empire, Umbaran Empire, completely new Empires, and Droid Revolution films in the future even if they change the plots a little as long as they dont ruin it.
High and mighty for Filoni to claim that after all the needless changes he's made to lore that degrade the history as a whole outside what you can pin to George Lucas. He's no lore master, just a very good charlatan.
Remember when this was canon and George Lucas was still in charge of star wars? Good times. Legends was a better sequel to the original trilogy than the Disney movies were, and legends wasn't even a movie!
Luke Skillings it was never canon legends was a alternative universe that gorge Lucas created to let writers do whatever they wanted but it was the writers choice to tie it in with the movies at every turn and with no Star Wars movie in sigh gorge used legends as well to try and be as creative as he could after all the hate
The ancient Star Wars stories with the primitive Star Wars universe along with other tales from the EU, sound very interesting because it is based on books, comics, video games, animated series and can expand into enormous amount of great things. It would be interesting to see some films covering pre historic Star Wars which would be super prequels to the prequels itself. It would be like going back in time way before the modern Star Wars era. A lot of EU material would be interesting to see come to life in the future.
I've researched the entire Star Wars timeline in chronological order from RPGs, to video games, books, comics, films and tv shows. An this video is without flaw. Excellent job!!
Legends Grevious can still fit with canon Grevious if you put the 2003 Clone Wars right before the 2008 Clone Wars, and say the first kidnapping of the chancellor failed.
@@christophersalinas2722 Hell yeah, I'm 17 years old and I grew up with the Expanded Universe before Disney bought it out, Revenge of the Sith came out before I was only a year old and Genndy's Clone Wars is what I've always preferred pver TCW
You should just do the insanely long video of ALL of the complete legends history in detail....maybe even make it in parts as a series you do or something
1977: George Lucas makes Star Wars. Fans: Dang this is pretty awesome we could make a bunch of lore and stuff from this. *Spend next 40 years intensely working and creating thousands of characters and stories to create best possible expanded universe* 2014: Disney - Oh ya by the way none of that matters anymore. *now we have full control* Note: I kind of get why Disney got rid of the EU, I mean the kind of had to in order to leave space to make new movies, but seriously it’s a disappointment that all the work authors and creators put into the EU is disregarded and labeled as kind of “fake.” And sorry this is just my opinion but I think the EU is miles better than what Disney has been making. Sorry it’s just my opinion
Except Disney did not have to "get rid" of the EU. They could have just established an alternate universe, sort of what MCU is to Marvel Comicbooks. Or they could have just used one of the many long gaps in the story, but that would require the writers to actually know the lore, which (as the new movies shown us) is apparently too much to demand
I'm not a fan of altenative universes. It takes away all the logic and correlations of what we've learn to know. I'd rather have plot holes here and there than follow a timeline where luke and leia might've never existed
Where has this channel been hiding from an original Star Wars fan??? I love what you did with the explanation of the BBY and beyond!! Please keep these coming as I enjoy learning the cannon that I have missed throughout the 40 years of Star Wars. I can see that I need to get the books to catch myself up......or simply watch your videos 😉❤️👍
18:11 I remember on HLN that when the Force Awakens characters were being announced, they used this image to represent the characteristics that described Rey. My God were they off by a lightyear! Rey is nothing compared to Jaina Solo. They also used EU images to describe Finn, Po Dameran, Kylo Ren, and others. All their EU counterparts were better than them.
i really like the legends content. in my eyes it has made the star wars franchise interesting. the lots of books and games formed the star wars universe to something kind of being more plausible
I like to think that the story/saga of the Skywalkers becomes one of the greatest in the history of the galaxy, but we haven't seen all of their greatest events yet. Luke Skywalker is just remembered as the first and most famous Skywalker, so the galactic time measurement begins with him
Efods Movies Well, there really hasn't been much AFTER Episode 6, right? Even in Expanded Universe/Legends, it doesn't seem like there was much with the Skywalkers that weren't directly tied to Luke Skywalker. To be fair, this video here is the first time I've ever really experienced the history of Star Wars beyond the movies, but comparing the BBY era to the ABY, there doesn't seem to be much to read.
Ngl I love honestly legends more then canon it has such more depth to it, and honestly would love to see more lore games from Star wars since it's just a great feeling to live threw that kind of life.
Read some, Legends have a lot more creativity and respect for original heroes. Can start with "Thrawn Trilogy" by Timothy Zahn: -Heir to the Empire -Dark Force Rising -The Last Command :-)
Starwaker I was never able to read those, but I have the Legends comics where Palpatine brings himself back from the dead using clone bodies... I forgot what it’s called.... and I also have a bunch of Legends novels like The Glove of Darth Vader, Jedi Quest, The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader, The Life of Obi-Wan Kenobi, and so on and so on
I mean hey. Having seen this video I can kinda understand why people are mad but imo most of the disney sw stuff they've been putting out is pretty good
@MaxTheRaven It's called having an opinion. And I don't love everything disney has put out. SW resistance is bleh. Solo was meh but fun and deserves at least one sequel, rogue one was good but had boring characters, and even though I love episodes 7 and 8, they have it's flaws (especially episode 7)
@@fristnamelastname5549 Depends really, KOTOR and Thrawn are great but then there's also stuff like those shitty stories with Han and Leia's children and Abeloth. Meanwhile, Disney canon can have something as dull as Rogue One but it also gave us the epic Twilight of the Apprentice episode
I just enjoy both I dont like the sequels but I like roque one mandalorian rebels and the clone wars the way In my head is before episode 1 is legends and after episode 6 is legends also love ur picture great floyd album
Either you had an incredibly shitty education, or you were an incredibly shitty student. Guess what, fanboi - Real Life = more important than Star Wars. I’m a huge Star Wars/Star Trek/MCU/Battlestar Galactica Nerd, but I also realize that Real Life tops all of those. I truly hope that you’re under 18. If you’re not, I REALLY hope you don’t vote.
Ian Perge Wow mate attacking a year an month old comment but ill humor you. A) It was a harmless joke, nothing to serious. B) My education was thrusted in the highest importance in my life, the only thing I knew was educational books and encyclopedias. And was taught I had to be everything better than parents. B1) My devotion to be the best in everything cause me mental issues around grade 4 where my schizophrenia and bipolar depression started and put me through a terrible lifestyle of constant medication and sucide attempts. C) My teachers did the best for me and I give it me all I was constant honor roll student throughout public school. D) Also college courses are 1000x better than public, because classes in public schools in america only teaches you how to take tests, college you learn the subject and study in great detail. Also it sad you have to go far saying I hope I don't vote, go somewhere else with that idiotic spewage coming from your mouth, I do whatever I want with my rights.
Batata Assada Man it's like we have millions of years of history in real life. Seriously fiction takes stuff from real life history and cook it into the fiction in some form.
Batata Assada But we don't have millions of years of history in real life. History started when first text was written. Everything before that is prehistory
Rofl, like Disney can tell me this shit isn't canon. It's 100% legit in my eyes., Just because they have money, they shouldn't be allowed to change such important stories.
Sam Hayes Sword of the Jedi: A Star Wars Story. The Solos: A Star Wars Story New Jedi Order: A Star Wars Story The Vongs: A Star Wars Story. Rise of Caedus: A Star Wars Story Rule of One: A Star Wars Story.
Jarrod Bushyhead: Not everything is flat wrong but what you said is without a doubt wrong, Old school BioWare could shit out a plot better then anything the sequels had.
It's sad that people spent thousands of hours on creating a story that stretches over 13 billion just for it to disappear for a new canon, don't get me wrong I love the new canon but there are some stuff in the EU that should stay canon
Part of the problem though with legends is people don't realize back then even the EU canon only accepted certain story's as cannon. Others were just well other story's. Many authors took great pains to not write conflicting time lines or make problems where one character ended up at multiple places at the same time in different story's, they did a really good job. They made some mistakes but by in large they made the most cohesive long running story and fictional universe to date. I read a lot of this material as much as I could, and played most all the games, and very rarely did I run into things that couldn't be explained with my knowledge of the lore, and even rarer did I run into problems with people being in the same place at once. So a good example of this was Boba fett, they had a story of what Boba fett did after episode 2 it wasn't very extensive and wasn't terribly interesting, this story was removed from cannon and replaced with an awesome book series, that erased many of the problems of the old one, this book series even informed parts of boba's history that made it into the Clone wars TV series. And the sad part is many of the best parts of this series are practically lost now. The story Is no longer canon and most fans will never know the trans-formative story of boba growing up in a weird place trying to be a good person and slowly has misfortune after misfortune and all he has to rely on is himself, over time he realizes why it's so important to guard one's self, close his emotions, Man up, all though experience. He screw up he find himself in pain, he does everything right he makes money and improves his life. Through this you watch a boy grow to be a man, and eventually one of the most ruthless efficient bounty hunters out there. And you people just talk about the EU being crap. Another good example is Death troopers, looking at the cover I was skeptical, oh great a zombie book "sarcasm" I'm glad this isn't part of the Official cannon, (I told myself years ago when looking at the book, before the Disney purge.) I read the book and it was great, it gave explanations for everything, only used the characters when they weren't doing things in other stories, And had a great bitter sweet ending. The plot was well executed, the setting was fantastic and the ambiance sent shivers down your spine. And it ended not really giving much of a chance to interfere with the other star wars story's. It added to Star Wars and didn't take anything away and that was an example of a great story. But it never was canon, even when it was written. And people don't get that, many things people point too as examples of awful EU canon never where canon even in the old EU. And then there were in my opinion mistakes where things made it as cannon and conflicted with the rest of the star wars stories, like the force unleaded, and made problems with the whole concept and use of the force. And ruined the coherence of it. And that lead to problems in episode seven where they don't understand the lore of the force in the slightest.
Man just read more history, some part of real Earth History is really full of complex and awesome stories of battles, heroes, battles, discoveries. I mean read about ancient chinese history. Or latin american pre-colobian history for example : it's awesome
some of it is man, you'd be surprised if ya do some digging. Chinese history is bloody awesome and honestly I really enjoy the rise of the United States and their break away from England. Also I really love Medieval history. Real history is almost just like fantasy history sometimes hahaha.
I would have loved to see a movie of the Galactic Alliance fight against the Yuuzhan Vong, it would look like a Science Fiction Lord Of The Rings only it's actually Star Wars! Who would've thought that a 40 year old film would spark a generation of many Star Wars sci-fi/fantasy stories.
Hate to be that guy but it was actually the new republic that fought the Yuuzhan vong, after the war the galaxy was so damaged it needed a new government, that was the alliance
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It's the never ending pissing match between the Jedi and Sith.
Who has the bigger saber peen
@@wolfman6489 true words
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yeah but it eventually ends lol
Star Wars legends complete timeline:a never ending battle between sith and Jedi
THE END
It's crazy how all this started with a single movie released 30-something years ago.
40 years ago now.
And all erased by one giant company purchasing rights to it.
I hate Walt Disney i am glad he is dead
GN-z11 Walt Disney had nothing to do with the Disney's choice to buy Lucasfilm, because he was dead long before that, so unless you hate him for another reason, there isn't a reason for you to hate him.
Anuj Jain HE CREATED DISNEY
EU fan: "Did you ever hear the tragedy of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (EU)?".
New fan: "No".
EU fan: "I thought not. It's not a story Disney will ever tell you. They're so-called Star Wars Legends. The Star Wars Expanded Universe (EU) was a collection of novels, comics, video games, animated series, the Star Wars Holiday Special, TV movies, radio dramas, roleplay games, reference books, magazine issues and HoloNet reports from 1976 until 2014 so beloved and well-respected it could use the existing lore of the Star Wars Universe to create new stories and characters. It had such a deep knowledge of the Star Wars Universe it could keep the fans it cared about from leaving the franchise".
New fan: "It could actually keep the fans it cared from leaving the franchise?".
EU fan: "The Star Wars Expanded Universe is a pathway to many stories some would consider non-canonical. It became so big and expansive the only thing it was afraid of was being decanonized by someone else in charge, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, it taught their new owner Disney everything it knew, then they killed it on April 25, 2014. Ironic, the Clone Wars could still be canon but not the Expanded Universe".
New fan: "Is it possible to learn these stories?".
EU fan: "Not from Disney".
wow bravo, Harris!
So we’ll written I love this
give this man a heart
This is when people use “tldr” but this does deserve an A+
Harris Syed I love it!!! “ Not from Disney”
Humans in 40,000 BC: Still banging rocks together.
Starwars in 100,000 BBY: have space stations with the purpose of harnessing supernatural beings.
Who says some alien species in our galaxy isnt building galactic empires and manipulating system ending technology?
Keep in mind Episode IV takes place about 700 million years ago (from our POV).
@Alan Yablonski Well,the Big Bang is said to happen 13.000.000.000 BBY. We think it happened about 13.7 billion years ago,that means Star Wars takes place (13.7 - 13) billion years ago.
@@СозданиеБезымянное to be fair Star Wars timelines converge at 0 BBY which is a new hope
It's always interesting how that the first one even knowing why
Load of BS, everything in nature points to a supremely thoughtful & masterful designer. But we'd prefer to believe we descended from animals, have virtually zero purpose for existing & that somehow our galaxy & everything in it came about by some cosmic miracle? Would be easier to believe Star Wars was non-fiction.
This is why i love Star Wars. So deep, so many individuals that worked, dreamt, created and expanded an universe together. This is an heritage that the Disney deal can't erase.
Geeks Curiosity yeah but they kinda did so....... :D
And so much dumb fanfiction esque bullshit too
The EU was so stylistic. But disney knows that can't undo it all, that's why they're dimishing the effects of it.
@@darthqrow4582 what?
Thank you
When you realise that all this comes from a movie created in 1977
Only Star Wars Here there is always a Dark Side which is explain you the light is lie every time light get power darkness overthrow him this circle gum completing again and again and again so at the last no 30 year passed no 30 year from future this is story as always on earth time is just like a bookmark in our history
And this more focused at BBY instead ABY
This mostly would never happen if there will be no prequels.
Alex Ya there was more but around the time it got decanonized
A movie that was supposed to begin and end there. It’s still my favorite. It has a purity that none of the rest of them have.....
So impressed, stellar video! Knocked this one out of the park! May the Force Be With You!
+The Stupendous Wave Thanks! :D
+SPARTAN-T422 'Locus' get +fact free here
+The Stupendous Wave Woah you watch his videos...nice both of you guys have relative topics for me in learning.
+SPARTAN-T422 'Locus' what is wrong with someone people
+The Stupendous Wave Watching all these made me realize how insignificant Anakin Skywalker was even though even in the Legends canon, he WAS the Chosen One. Him bringing balance to the force was ultimately/mostly thwarted by a Tusken-adopted human who was 100+ years old ( he was the only Sith who was really a threat after the Empire). I mean what the actual goddamn fuck?! Darth Krayt was just their failed attempt of trying to tie in the entire canon no matter what.
Do I enjoy canon
Yes
Do I enjoy legends
Yes
What version of Star Wars do I enjoy the most
GEORGE LUCAS’S STAR WARS
So just A New Hope?
I’ll pass on midichlorians tho
Yeah I’m cool off them shitty ass prequels tho
George Lucas canon: Star Wars episode 1-6 and clone wars season 1-6.
Bruh the prequels are awful
Canon: 10,000 years ago!
Legends: 13 BILLION years ago!!!!! Beat that!
Alex BoydSmith
13 billion years of nonsense
Canon doesn't really pick up until around 100 BBY. But that's to be expected since canon has only existed for less than 5 years and legends has existed for about 30. Right now legends is better than canon but that's probably just because it's had more time to develop. It'll be interesting to see what canon looks like in a few decades.
@Aerociviz Nicholas
I think you got the numbers wrong.
Canon does not have 13 billion years.
You are right about being weak and disorganised though
New canon cut out most of the dumb bullshit that no one cared about, even when Legends used to be canon
Aerociviz Nicholas Uh it doesn’t start with KOTOR lmao. It starts off with those dumbass Je’daii thing.
So a summarization of the history of the Star Wars Galaxy is: The Jedi almost die but come back a lot
Same for the sith
after each time they demilitarized
The Jedi keep dying out and the Sith keep coming back for short periods of time where they fail to control the galaxy.
Basically, Force-users keep screwing up.
I'd say a better summary is "The Sith really don't get that they'll never have a regime lasting more than a generation".
It's more than that really, the Jedi and Sith orders are both smaller parts of the same 'lineage' of Force-Using traditions. They are Thesis and Antithesis to each other... the history after the formation and fall of the ancient Je'daii can be considered a metaphorical (and violent) dialogue between the two repeatedly failing to achieve Synthesis or a re-forming of the Je'daii as a whole.
These people have written 13,000,000,000 years worth of history, for a fictional galaxy, based off of 6 movies, but most of it isn't even canon?!
Well, when they wrote it it WAS canon, but now its not.
+ReverendJedi it makes sense to retcon everything so they can tell they're stories
+ReverendJedi but it still makes them money horses
+Pewpewboomshot that would make sense if only the post Return of the Jedi stuff was retconed. Why cant the Force Wars be canon? Or any of the Old Republic timeline? That stuff that happens way before the prequels doesn't affect Disneys ability to make sequels with new stories.
+117Tempest so if they wanna make material before the prequels they can
"The Chosen One shall bring balance to the force"
> The Sith keep rising up after Anakin sacrifices himself
Anakin: Am i a joke to you?
thing is, the will of the force is to bring balance. if you have a lot of jedi running around the force will raise up sith to match them.
@Palpatine McSenateFace just another jedi killing another jedi. they don't exsplain how anything works.
@@inszel According to George Lucas, the Jedi are balance. Anakin fulfilled the prophecy when he destroyed the emperor and Vader.
@@jamesh7540 the old canon has the force as a balencing force, the jedi are the light and the sith the darkness. the force wants this to be equal between the two, so if there are jedi but no sith suddenly sith start popping up. if you want a good idea on this look at the philsohsy of darth traya.
@@inszel I understand that idea, but it contradicts GL's statements, which is basically the Word of God in this universe. Or was until Disney bought it.
I can just picture someone saying hmm I wonder if there is any back story to star wars oh look heres a video there probably isn't much *taps vid
13 billion years ago the galaxy was formed
Oh umm ok....
James Miller I thought the same thing! I had never watched this channel. Didn’t even know it existed for over a year, but that will change. It will become “click bait” for me now. I think everyone who knew about it should have brought it to my attention......(I’ll get over that now😅)
LOL
The Outer Rim is strikingly close to resembling the milky way isn't it...
When I was a kid we didn't have new movies or tv shows. These EU comics, games and books were Star Wars for me.
Good for you!!!!
I see why people dislike Disney’s control over Star Wars.
The new trilogy could’ve been so much better
@William Colebrook-Smith it'd be awesome to see a new jefi order at all. Instead we got psychopath Luke.
@@tristanmorris9432 Yeah, that was a mistake, big time.
So much fucken better
I can describe how the sequels would've been better with 2 words Yuuzhan-Vong War
But than again Legends is the real canon not this crap we were given by Disney
@Elijah Neil actually its the high republic but who cares
“Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels. We don’t have anything other than passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration might be.”
-Kathleen Kennedy
imsorryclass wait what???
She should have never been in charge of Lucasfilm
@DejaVoodooDoll
Hey, I can post random quotes too.
"After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story--however many films it took to tell--was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were nto stories that I was destined to tell. Instead they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga." - George Lucas in foreward to 1995's release of "Splinter of the Mind's Eye".
What was your point?
@DejaVoodooDoll
Lol, wut?
I did not spin any quote. I just pasted it, just like you did. And asked what was your point, because I genuenly don't know what were you trying to achieve.
But since we are at it, you really need considerable imagination to twist "it is not my universe, but I try to keep it coherent with mine" into "it's not my movie, so it's not canon", especialy when Lucas called it all one "saga"
@DejaVoodooDoll
If Lucas was insistant that Luke should be a hermit, then why didn't you post a quote, where Lucas says so?
He did not like Mara, but he allowed her to exist nontheless, despite banning many other Thrawn Trillogy concepts, like origins if Vader's mask, or Obi-Wan's clone. But you did not post quotes that could support that either.
LucasFilm only tried to keep to 2014's Canon when creating the sequels, true. But "trying to be original, despite having ready material" is not the same as "ignoring that there is material".
My bad, the quotes, are actually relevant, especialy the second one. It proves that Lucas cared about SW as a whole and even if an SW work wasn't his, he tried to keep SW coherent. Which calls Kennedy out on her bullshit, when she says that there is no material
when I first read about Mara and she was like : "I have to kill Luke Skywalker" I was like:"Great,I thought he would never find a cool wife
that's the real eternal conflict... man vs woman
I agree!😁
and in the new canon he is the "forever alone" guy who kills himself through force projection...
What a shame, Disney
@@XellDincht That's not real Star Wars it's Disney trash. Legends is the real Star Wars ;)
Apparently Mara Jade is going to be canon soon.
This was awesome. Learned a lot.
+WrecklessEating Thanks!
+Star Wars Minute is where you ended as far as the legends canon got before Disney bought Star Wars?
Pretty much. Stories were being written at several points throughout the timeline at the time that legends was cancelled, but that's as far forward as the story went.
He doesn't cover everything, but it's still good.
Osman Shah if he covered everything this would be one of those 24 hour videos lol
I mix up canon and legends to make my own Star Wars. What I choose from each is my canon. This should be your attitude as well, my friends.
Ok man you do you
@@Dra69420 No. You do as well. I demand it.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Tristan Morris ok I know the different of them
Tristan Morris it just makes u look ignorant so ur on ur own kid
0:11-14:15
The Old Republic Era
14:15
Rise of The Galactic Empire
Imperial Age
15:45
Rise of the New Republic
New Republic Age
19:20
The One-Sith Takeover
19:45
Rise of The Galactic Triumvirate
TFA is the root of the problem. Redoing Rebels vs Empire and returning to the status quo doesn't make any sense, doesn't continue the saga in any meaningful way and effectively crippled the trilogy.
The Vong War and the One Sith actually made for new interesting story arcs.
@@That_Guy00 That’s true, so weird that they were so proud of the same concept George Lucas used back in the 70’s, and they use it now like we haven’t had enough stories of resilient rebels standing against an almighty force of evil. Thing is, I feel like if that could’ve worked.
Force Awakens is practically just A New Hope, but if they we’re going to use this familiar structure as a way to tell a new story, it could’ve worked. Or better yet, though the Yuzhon-Vong War isn’t my favorite storyline, FA building up to our heroes discovering a threat much like the Yuzhon-Vong would’ve truly been a site to see.
Imagine leaving the theater after seeing that!
@@TagnBinkwerehere I'd of left the theatre happy af, Idk how I left the theatre after TFA but I think I was still happy, what a mistake lol
Holy shit. So it seems like there is a never ending power struggle between Jedi and Sith. Makes for good lore, but damn it’s crazy
feels like real-life. a never ending battle between freedom and oppression
@@Xenotaris dude you gotta cheer up man
basically sith and jedi where one order in the beginning researching the force, one day a few of them discovered the dark side and then "the dark side is better then the light side", "no the light side is better then the dark side" and so on. And that is the real reason for the war betwen jedi and sith.
@@Darkclaw00,oh.So they were like researchers?
@@hidof9598 At the beginning yes, believe it or not, Star Wars The old Republik proved to be a reliable source of information about that topic
Man. This Galaxy cannot catch a break
just like us eh?
NeonFish710 like game of thrones.
NeonFish710 Guess that’s why it’s Star ‘Wars’.
Never
The Galactic Alliance?
You mean Buzz Lightyear's government?
Lol
Or from lilo and stitch
Benjamin Joseph Bruner thank you for this comment
Benjamin Joseph Bruner BUZZ LIGHTYEAR THE WORLDS GREATEST SUPER HERO!!!!!!
Time for a crossover!
Before BBY is great, after BBY feels trapped by having to include Skywalkers.
Blame George Lucas
O G omg come on just stop
Kinda played with with Cade Skywalker, he just wants to be a pirate and do drugs, but destiny keeps dragging him into galactic affairs against his will.
@@210SAi Why him?
Bro its because the whole story was about the sky walkers, the universe was just the backdrop
Legends: The Sith are a species that are connected to the dark side and knowing this the jedi genocide them, leaving feew left and causing a Galactic rivalry. Canon: Oh uhh some guy was a jedi but then he didn't like being good so he became bad and so some of his followers join him.
is this true!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
I prefer the canonical version
Ajunta Pall says hi.
Stuka I dunno I don’t think the legends is the best story in this case
Model RK800 They actually were, Tcw season 6 just squeezed into legends I believe(maybe not episodes like sacrifice where Disney renamed Korriban to Moraband.)
Legends is so freaking awesome compared to the stuff Disney puts out. Like seriously the overall Legends story as shown in this video is pure epic. It actually makes sense considering what happened in the Star Wars movies, and it makes me really sad knowing that this stuff isn’t canon anymore
Yeah im also saddend aswell pal
I'm at least happy they can't touch it. NO ONE at Lucasfilm could do it justice. No, not Dave Filoni, not Jon Favreau, _NO ONE._ That said, Legends could still thrive, if it was allowed to be continued by outside entities, like Hasbro, Marvel, Del Rey, and yet they won't do that, lol. What a creatively bankrupt company.
@@saberiandream316 legends is so awesome but in the Disneyverse they steal the chosen one title from Anakin skywalker and Rey is the one to permanently end the Sith. You made a good point, Disney can’t screw up legends,
@@pixel80 lol wow anakin is still the choesn one
Well most of it could still be canon in the Disney stuff. For example the Final Order squads were named after old Sith, making me believe it is canon. And even if it wasn’t, it is to me. All of it has happened no matter what Disney says and screw those sequels
I hope Star Wars legends is never forgotten. It seems that Star Wars is going to live for a long time, and the chances of a legends movie become lower and lower.
I think the new canon will be heavily inspired by Legends.
+Elias Sen Doudouh Bane is already canon though. And Legends was never canon. Only the movies were full canon back then but people forget that.
+Nikolai Belinski - I'm really glad this shit is not canon. Legends is good, but not good for the current movies.
+Elias Sen Doudouh keep in mind Pablo Hidalgo, Dave Filoni and a lot of writers get to decide what they put in their stories. Disney can stop them from doing something dumb like claiming Chewbacca just had a speech impediment but they're already bringing back a lot of old star wars material.
+SpaceRainFilms Exactly! :D
*Real Star Wars Legends (Expanded Universe):* You took everything from me.
*Disney:* I don't even know who you are.
*Real Star Wars Legends (Expanded Universe):* You will.
they wont tho
This is so much better than the story the new movies take
YungDiabeetus You do realize people said this same shit ab the prequels over a decade ago yes?
Hannibal IboneK The sequels ruin the original trilogy while the EU continues and improves on it
I wouldn't necessarily say the prequels ruined the OT or vice-versa. But Ep3 did twist itself in temporal knots and it seems the best parts of 2 and 3 ended up on the cutting room floor.
@@BBRRTT98 But they were wrong, this time not
Happy Star Wars Day everyone! I wanted to do something special for all of you, so here's my longest video yet! I wanted to make this video so fans who aren't familiar with Legends stories can get a basic idea of what happened when. I tried to approach Legends like a history book would and focused on the events and characters that had the most impact on galactic history. Inevitably, some things were left out. So if there's anything you want to see covered, make sure to leave a comment here and I'll make sure to do a full video on the topic in the future! I hope you enjoy this labor of love, and may the Force be with you all!
+Star Wars Minute this video is like 20 episodes in 1
good job man
+Star Wars Minute Awesome video! keep up the good work !
Thank you so much, this is simply amazing!!! I can't really say nice job, this is too good for that kind of compliment. Once again, thank you. I think this video proves that every Star Wars fan should be subscribed to you. Happy May the 4th, and may the force be with you too.
hell yea
may the fourth be with you guys
Legend > Canon.
great video. loved it
That’s a good name
I approve
That’s a good name
I approve
Legend: many decades
Canon: five years
What is canon and legend? Do'nt understand it.
Why was Legends cancelled? It could have coexisted with the official canon.
I thinks better that it wasn't, given the stories that Disney calls "Canon."
because it would be better then disney canon and siphoned all the interest of the fan
I consider Legends true canon and Disney Star Wars an alternate universe. George Lucas still had say in what happened in the Legends series.
karen hall I personally consider them two alternate universes, for me there is no timeline that is real or not real, there are just two alternate timelines.(although legends is my favourite timeline)
This is random and its odd to bring in but whatever
What disney should have done is similar to what netherelm studios did with the mortal kombat series
Take content trim the exes fat chamge a bit so the most of it made sense and make that content
mainstream while still paying respect to the orgin of your new stuff
Sounds like a big game of Sid Mier's Civilization to me.
Player:Light Side
Gandhi: Dark Side
Star Wars Total War
So basically Ghandi is the Rakata, getting advanced technology at year 1152A.D.
You forgot Starkiller whose family crest was the symbol of the Rebels
His actual name was Galen Marek
@@hankhill1964 Starkiller sounds better but you are right.
True actually he would be considered Legends canon now
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 then they ruined his name with the force awakens. starkiller base would have been more cooler if it killed stars instead of wah wah blow up planet haha death star 3 go brrr
@@VeeTOHFan Yeah I agree, it was a slap in the face to his name but you might wanna rewatch it, for its power it literally drains a star's energy so it literally does kill stars, just uses them as fuel instead of making them go supernova with its canon
NOW i understand y ppl r still pissed disney made legends not part of canon anymore. THIS IS SICK
@reima s you are one with the force now
@reima The force is strong with this one.
It might just be because im more of a sci-fi person, but I don't like how magical and fantastical this is. Everything has to do with the force and everybodys some overpowered god
not only, disney copied legends in a garbage way to seem "original"
It is so frustrating growing up inspired by such a unique and vast lore and then have a corporation come and say that none of it is true anymore and rewrite everything you grew up with.
It’s a shame that the Old Republic years and everything before it isn’t canon.
In a few years, a large portion will be. :)
@@enyotheios2613 I just hope Disney doesn't ruin TOR and KOTOR.
Well, I got a surprise for you in march
It's our canon.
Disney can just make the old republic canon if they want to though. they might because im sure they know there's demand for it.
The story line follows the same cycle. Sith rise, sith falls, jedi rise, jedi falls, on and on and on for thousands of years
This is kinda boring
SebaP1991 I like it very much because of the changing characters
Ryan Davidson "it's all a wheel going round and round. It's a beautiful dream, stopping the wheel. You are not the first to try."
"I don't wish to stop the wheel, I will break it."
That's how force works
“It’s like poetry, it rhymes” to quote someone who is important to this topic
hey there SWE
theres a couple things i would like to offer corrections for:
-Bane took the title Darth *before* killing the dark brotherhood, not after or because of the accomplishment
-Palpatine did *not* initially comission the clone army. Syfo Dias did. Then told Hego Damask (Plagueiss) of his intentions.. then 10 yrs later Sidious sent Dooku to assasinate Dias and assume funding to the Kaminoans and have them install the order 66 chip
You didn't include Chewbacca nor Luke's death.
Luke was never given a death in Legends, we know he's dead in Cade's timeline as we see his Force Ghost, but we never knew how he died because Disney bought Star Wars before we could.
Quantum-Kakarotto Read your post over again. "Luke was never given a death", "we know he's dead in Cade's timeline". We don't know HOW he died, but we know he died.
John Silver Exactly, Luke's death was never written,
Wether his death was written or not is irrelevant, we know he is dead. He is dead.
John Silver Everybody dies eventually, even Yoda.
In all honesty, I just view Legends and Disney Canon as two different timelines. Two different ways each story played out, with the stuff Disney allowed to be Canon, like the movies, being the only car instant. Even then, the events that lead up to these events are different as well. Two different equally real realities. This is just my head cannon, so anyone else can think differently.
I prefer Legends.
Micshork no.
Yes
Micshork we all do
GrantRoscoe I freaking love legends.
Man I wish Legends was canonical and the Disney Wars the fanfiction.
Are the 'humans' in Star Wars actually called humans? I've always wondered that...
Yes Lee, they are.
... he says, condescendingly.
Well, I figured since they are in a separate galaxy from us that they would be considered aliens to humans like us. Granted humans only exist on Earth. They can be humans if in George Lucas' world the Human species can exist on more than one galaxy and way before the humans of Earth existed.
Well, you could also think of it as, since this was a galaxy far far away, and it took place a long time ago, maybe they managed to create tech that allowed them to come to our galaxy, where they found earth and settled there, thus creating the first humans on Earth. Maybe they had crash landed, too, and lost their tech, or were abandoned by their captain or whatever, thus forcing them to become primitive.
well since that happened years ago who says humans found a way to travel to another galaxy aka milky way and settle on a small planet earth. XD
I would love to see the "insanely long" video explaining EVERYTHING in the Legends galactic history. I would really like watching that! Even if it was a couple hours long. I think you should make a video like that for people like me who appreciate stuff like that and like watching long videos about the history of certain things. :) This video was great tho, covered pretty much all the important major things in a nice descriptive way that was quick for people who like the shorter videos. If possible, I really would like to see the long video of everything in the history of the galaxy....
I must have missed it. Did you not mention Darth Plagueis, the Wise?
13:16 Bane
13:45 Ruusan Reformation
Sith secretly amass
14:15 Sidious (32 BBY) Clone Wars (22 BBY) RotS (19 BBY)
0:10 Galaxy created (13billion BBY)
0:29 Zhell (200,000 BBY) defeat Taungs on Notron - Coruscant
0:46 Celestials (100,000 BBY) Centerpoint Station - created Correlia
1:07 Abeloth - Maw
1:30 Tho Yor (36,453 BBY) Tython - Je'daii
2:00 Rakata (35,000 BBY) slaves develop a connection to the Force - dark side tech
2:30 Rakata (27,700 BBY) Koriban - Sith Species - Adus - Ziost
2:55 Zhell evolve (27,500 BBY) human and Notron is renamed Coruscant
3:01 Sublight ships - Kuat (25,000 BBY)
3:13 (25,793 BBY) Je'daii Order splintered into light and dark. Tython ruined - relocate
3:54 (25,200 BBY) Rakata attack Jedi on Ossus - plagueXForce - nearly wiped out.
4:13 (25,053 BBY) Rakataan Hyperspace tech reverse engineered by Correlian Scientists
4:22 (25,053 BBY) Galactic Republic (Old Republic?)
4:41 (24,500 BBY) Jedi - *First Great Schism* - Xendar
5:06 (22,800 BBY) Illum - Jedi
5:21 (7,000 BBY) Dark Jedi - *Second Great Schism* Hundred-Year Darkness
Battle of Corbos - Xiost, Koriban, Sith discovered by Jedi exiles
5:48
(I'll come back to this...)
Malak & Revan
Triumvirate
10:56 Jedi Meetra Surik
kills the Triumvirate
11:05 Sith Emperor?
11:13 Darth Malgus
11:24 Satele, daughter of Bastila and Revan
11:33 Sith Empire
11:54 Vitiate
12:02 Arcann - new treaty (3642 BBY)
12:24 Fourth Great Schism (2000 BBY)
12:33 Darth Ruin
12:50 Lord Kaan
13:16 Bane
13:45 Ruusan Reformation
(1000 BBY)
Sith secretly amass
14:15 Sidious (32 BBY) Clone Wars (22 BBY) RotS (19 BBY)
This is canon. I don't care what Disney says or does
you can have your head canon but I like Disney canon more than this
@@mikapoful wait you like a green milk drinking and dying after a simple force illusion luke skywalker more than a black hole manipulating luke skywalker??
Screw you disney worshiper....
Papacam 1030 Star Wars EU: Classic stories.
Disney Star Wars:Crap.
i think this should be canon until 0 bby
Who else believes or favors the legends timeline over canon
who doesn't
Simon Rozze only the BBY then I go cannon
Me🖑
I favour the old EU
Can you please explain to me how *exactly* YOU get to define what both “true fans” and “real Star Wars” is?
...because unless it’s fan fiction, I’m pretty sure you’re wrong.
Before the dark times... Before Disney!
Before lightsaber got nerf
Before rebels
If Disney just gives up its campaign to rule Lucasfilm, everything would work well.
Wolves4Life made my Day
Poke Thegamer rebels was ok the movies are shit
The Fifth Great Schism occurred when Disney did away with Legends.
The Sixth Great Schism occurred when "The Last Jedi" was released.
gary24fan I like your analogies. Order 66 was declared when LucasArts got dissolved...
Those Schism are out of order
The seventh will be when Dave Filoni takes over
@Richard Sutton Definitely not when Disney did away with Legends.
The Fifth Great Schism came in 2008 with TCW. The Disney management was slowly creeping in as George Lucas lessened his reins on the company and they falsely promoted Dave Filoni as a "lore master" who got very defensive and standoffish when put on the spot and shortly thereafter started insisting "the EU was never part of George's universe," using his talking points to undermine the spirit of his words. The canon war began in 2008. We lost. Disney won. The rest of it was just playacting.
So this is the old timeline,I must say it's actually pretty interesting
They should've made a movie or series about either the Old Republic or the events after the second Deathstar.
Legends is awesome
I was just thinking about that! We need a new Saga about the old republic, and really just pre clone wars in general
Jacen Solo >>> Ben Solo
Cooler?
Yup
Ben who?
I am 300th like.
you also got ben skywalker.
In Legends all Star Wars Chracters had amazing backstorys even background small chracters
I cant believe Disney put this all to waste
The New Empire lucasflims did it because it was going to.be a pain in the ass to adapt for the mainstream audience. They have slowly brought many of this back.
Lavon Media Oh no the writers have to do actual work. They surely dont have an entire galaxy to work with. There puny creative procces can't write a story. Lets just reboot it and pander it to the tumblor crowd and alienate the fanbase that threw there money to see star wars only to not throw money at it no more. It is okay we got the new generation who care not of art and story telling. Lets make sure we target them to sell more toys of our reboot. Now with that sarcasm out of the way you do relise rebootd hardly ever work? If the evil dead reboot failed and gosthbuster reboot failed and robocop reboot failed. Why make a new reboot? You don't reboot art. I don't see anyone rebooting the mona lisa. You know why it didn't need it. If your writers can't add on to a story and need to rebooy an entire galaxy. You got bad writers. Fo you know how big an entire galaxy is? Unlimited opportunity. When bethseda bought out fallout they did not reboot it they expanded the world. Disney can't expand a galaxy but a gaming company can expande an entire country. That's really bad if ypu compare the size scale from a world building point of view.
Lavon Media I don't understand what mixed mean in this sense can you elborate please? I want to know your oppion on a subjective topic.
Look, I love the EU, but there was just way too much to adapt for even two new sets of trilogies. We're talking decades of books, some better than others, that most Star Wars fans, at best, only know portions of. Mark Hamill, Carrie Fischer, and Harrison Ford were too old for them to adapt anything earlier than the Galactic Alliance Era, and how can you possibly start a book accurate Darth Caedus trilogy without first having done the Solo children's development and the Yuuzhan Vong War?
Again, I love the EU, but they had to separate the films and the old novels into two separate timelines. It would have been a logistical nightmare and an incomprehensible mess otherwise.
Hopefully they will make a Force War, Hut wars, Infinte Empire, Mandalorian wars, Ancient human expansion, Revan, Great Hyperspace War, Exar Kun War, New Sith War, Zygerian Empire, Great Galatic War, Kel Dor Empire (I think they would make cool villians), Trandoshan Empire, Umbaran Empire, completely new Empires, and Droid Revolution films in the future even if they change the plots a little as long as they dont ruin it.
There’s always a little truth in legends
D Legend damn
D Legend your title is quite fitting.
Or in this case, a lot of truth
High and mighty for Filoni to claim that after all the needless changes he's made to lore that degrade the history as a whole outside what you can pin to George Lucas. He's no lore master, just a very good charlatan.
Remember when this was canon and George Lucas was still in charge of star wars? Good times. Legends was a better sequel to the original trilogy than the Disney movies were, and legends wasn't even a movie!
Luke Skillings it was never canon legends was a alternative universe that gorge Lucas created to let writers do whatever they wanted but it was the writers choice to tie it in with the movies at every turn and with no Star Wars movie in sigh gorge used legends as well to try and be as creative as he could after all the hate
@@randomgamer625 Well because of the shit Disney made with star wars I'm gonna pretend that legends is canon.
The ancient Star Wars stories with the primitive Star Wars universe along with other tales from the EU, sound very interesting because it is based on books, comics, video games, animated series and can expand into enormous amount of great things. It would be interesting to see some films covering pre historic Star Wars which would be super prequels to the prequels itself. It would be like going back in time way before the modern Star Wars era. A lot of EU material would be interesting to see come to life in the future.
I've researched the entire Star Wars timeline in chronological order from RPGs, to video games, books, comics, films and tv shows. An this video is without flaw. Excellent job!!
+Wa Ri thanks!
Wa Ri From Old Republic games series to Clone Wars 2003 TV series to Legacy of the Force books series :)
Legends Grevious was better.
Everyone's Legends version is better than their Disney version.
Legends Grevious can still fit with canon Grevious if you put the 2003 Clone Wars right before the 2008 Clone Wars, and say the first kidnapping of the chancellor failed.
This is real Star Wars canon - that's what I'll tell my kids
Same
Star Wars fans with kids? Hahahah
@@christophersalinas2722 My parents had me
@@billloney2567 I’m glad they are passing the love for Star Wars down to another generation.
@@christophersalinas2722 Hell yeah, I'm 17 years old and I grew up with the Expanded Universe before Disney bought it out, Revenge of the Sith came out before I was only a year old and Genndy's Clone Wars is what I've always preferred pver TCW
You should just do the insanely long video of ALL of the complete legends history in detail....maybe even make it in parts as a series you do or something
1977: George Lucas makes Star Wars.
Fans: Dang this is pretty awesome we could make a bunch of lore and stuff from this.
*Spend next 40 years intensely working and creating thousands of characters and stories to create best possible expanded universe*
2014:
Disney - Oh ya by the way none of that matters anymore. *now we have full control*
Note: I kind of get why Disney got rid of the EU, I mean the kind of had to in order to leave space to make new movies, but seriously it’s a disappointment that all the work authors and creators put into the EU is disregarded and labeled as kind of “fake.” And sorry this is just my opinion but I think the EU is miles better than what Disney has been making. Sorry it’s just my opinion
Good opinion, you have
Disney/Lucasfilm could have made it an alternate timeline and still publish Legends materials. DC and Marvel deal with multiversal stories everyday.
Except Disney did not have to "get rid" of the EU. They could have just established an alternate universe, sort of what MCU is to Marvel Comicbooks.
Or they could have just used one of the many long gaps in the story, but that would require the writers to actually know the lore, which (as the new movies shown us) is apparently too much to demand
I'm not a fan of altenative universes. It takes away all the logic and correlations of what we've learn to know. I'd rather have plot holes here and there than follow a timeline where luke and leia might've never existed
Idiots, Disney sympathizers are
I seek knowledge. I'll call you, Old Master.
+Batman Jr. I accept this title haha
+Star Wars Minute this must have taken so long to make! Great job!
Where has this channel been hiding from an original Star Wars fan??? I love what you did with the explanation of the BBY and beyond!! Please keep these coming as I enjoy learning the cannon that I have missed throughout the 40 years of Star Wars. I can see that I need to get the books to catch myself up......or simply watch your videos 😉❤️👍
16:20
Disney: Hey, can I look at your notes for a sec
Legends: Sure, just change it a bit.
underrated comment
18:11 I remember on HLN that when the Force Awakens characters were being announced, they used this image to represent the characteristics that described Rey. My God were they off by a lightyear! Rey is nothing compared to Jaina Solo.
They also used EU images to describe Finn, Po Dameran, Kylo Ren, and others. All their EU counterparts were better than them.
Star Wars Legends > Star Wars New Canon
Yeah, but...that's like saying Citizen Kane is better than Battlefield Earth.
Nope, the New Canon is so much better
@@caedus0809
Said no one, ever
@@luckylogan12345
And it already managed to pump out more shitty content than old canon in whole 35 years
@Un-broken and victorious they are talking about the real canon
i really like the legends content. in my eyes it has made the star wars franchise interesting. the lots of books and games formed the star wars universe to something kind of being more plausible
SW Legends IS canon, at least for most of us older fans. As far as I'm concerned the Thrawn Trilogy is chapters 7, 8, and 9.
Thank you for the correct Star Wars time Line
All of this makes the movies so insignificant...
And the Empire too. SOOO much history! And the grand plan of Sidious ends in like 23 years. Haha.
I like to think that the story/saga of the Skywalkers becomes one of the greatest in the history of the galaxy, but we haven't seen all of their greatest events yet. Luke Skywalker is just remembered as the first and most famous Skywalker, so the galactic time measurement begins with him
Efods Movies Well, there really hasn't been much AFTER Episode 6, right? Even in Expanded Universe/Legends, it doesn't seem like there was much with the Skywalkers that weren't directly tied to Luke Skywalker.
To be fair, this video here is the first time I've ever really experienced the history of Star Wars beyond the movies, but comparing the BBY era to the ABY, there doesn't seem to be much to read.
Checkmate1138 to be fair they would have gotten longer if they had gone with future rather than past
Tommy Peli If only Ahsoka was in the New Jedi Order since 26 years ago :(.
7:17 Beast Wars?
Well, that's just Prime.
Nice Reference
BEAST WARS THEME INTENSIFIES
Transformers?
My man!
Confirmed that transformers and Star Wars is in the same universe?1?1?
Ngl I love honestly legends more then canon it has such more depth to it, and honestly would love to see more lore games from Star wars since it's just a great feeling to live threw that kind of life.
After watching The Last Jedi this feels much much much better...
Read some, Legends have a lot more creativity and respect for original heroes.
Can start with "Thrawn Trilogy" by Timothy Zahn:
-Heir to the Empire
-Dark Force Rising
-The Last Command
:-)
Starwaker exactly
Starwaker YEEEEEESSSSS, MY DUUUUUUUDE
Starwaker I was never able to read those, but I have the Legends comics where Palpatine brings himself back from the dead using clone bodies... I forgot what it’s called.... and I also have a bunch of Legends novels like The Glove of Darth Vader, Jedi Quest, The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader, The Life of Obi-Wan Kenobi, and so on and so on
still much better than force awakens
It's awful that Disney thought that they could do better than this and threw it away
I mean hey. Having seen this video I can kinda understand why people are mad but imo most of the disney sw stuff they've been putting out is pretty good
@MaxTheRaven It's called having an opinion. And I don't love everything disney has put out. SW resistance is bleh. Solo was meh but fun and deserves at least one sequel, rogue one was good but had boring characters, and even though I love episodes 7 and 8, they have it's flaws (especially episode 7)
@@techno639 I don't know about Disney's version. I feel like Legends are far more better in lore, and quality.
@@fristnamelastname5549 Depends really, KOTOR and Thrawn are great but then there's also stuff like those shitty stories with Han and Leia's children and Abeloth. Meanwhile, Disney canon can have something as dull as Rogue One but it also gave us the epic Twilight of the Apprentice episode
@@fristnamelastname5549 That's fine I can't really judge because I've never actually read all the legends books. But I have seen all the movies
Is it just me or do I hear that alarm that you hear on star destroyers buried behind the music?
+jediking12 It's not just you :P
+Star Wars Minute Same I hear it too!
It's at 6:09
I heard it once I read your post lol.
Legends will always be superior to cannon. I grew up with legends.
back when star wars was good
Man,Those early Dark Horse comics Tales of the Jedi were really something special..
I happen to have the MP3 files of Tales of the jedi Parts 1 and 2 sadly no part 3 yet.
Thank you for putting so much work into this. You've made my day.
I miss the EU, Therefore I'm gonna reject the existence of the disney canon and declare the EU official canon in my eyes...
I just enjoy both I dont like the sequels but I like roque one mandalorian rebels and the clone wars the way In my head is before episode 1 is legends and after episode 6 is legends also love ur picture great floyd album
Aidan Vitsentzos clone wars is kind of both actually
Star Wars admiration with a pink Floyd user pic. I appreciate your taste
Corporal Clegg505 Do you even study canon lore?
@@williamryder8497 Nope not worth my time
This video is way more informative and detail compare to history class I had during public school.
Either you had an incredibly shitty education, or
you were an incredibly shitty student.
Guess what, fanboi - Real Life = more important than Star Wars. I’m a huge Star Wars/Star Trek/MCU/Battlestar Galactica Nerd, but I also realize that Real Life tops all of those. I truly hope
that you’re under 18. If you’re not, I REALLY hope you don’t vote.
Ian Perge Wow mate attacking a year an month old comment but ill humor you.
A) It was a harmless joke, nothing to serious.
B) My education was thrusted in the highest importance in my life, the only thing I knew was educational books and encyclopedias. And was taught I had to be everything better than parents.
B1) My devotion to be the best in everything cause me mental issues around grade 4 where my schizophrenia and bipolar depression started and put me through a terrible lifestyle of constant medication and sucide attempts.
C) My teachers did the best for me and I give it me all I was constant honor roll student throughout public school.
D) Also college courses are 1000x better than public, because classes in public schools in america only teaches you how to take tests, college you learn the subject and study in great detail.
Also it sad you have to go far saying I hope I don't vote, go somewhere else with that idiotic spewage coming from your mouth, I do whatever I want with my rights.
Lol this is millions years of history, don't compare star wars history to real history
Batata Assada Man it's like we have millions of years of history in real life.
Seriously fiction takes stuff from real life history and cook it into the fiction in some form.
Batata Assada
But we don't have millions of years of history in real life.
History started when first text was written. Everything before that is prehistory
Rofl, like Disney can tell me this shit isn't canon. It's 100% legit in my eyes., Just because they have money, they shouldn't be allowed to change such important stories.
Legends will always remain the Expanded Universe- and my childhood- in my heart.
BUT YOU SKIPPED THE FORCE UNLEASHED.
not incredibly major
James DeLano
It's quite important
After all it was Galen Marek, who rallied all the Rebel leaders
Sam Hayes Sword of the Jedi: A Star Wars Story.
The Solos: A Star Wars Story
New Jedi Order: A Star Wars Story
The Vongs: A Star Wars Story.
Rise of Caedus: A Star Wars Story
Rule of One: A Star Wars Story.
TFU wasn't really canon to begin with, which is good since it was garbage.
Disney: these stories aren't cannon
Everyone: they are CANON TO MEE
Lego Animations to*
@Éverson da Silva wow no one new before.......thank you for opening my eyes...
*canon
Canon*
@@nagihangot6133 thats what I said
I miss the EU
Me too, the worst part is I only got into it recently, finished Darth Bane´s trilogy and some other audiobooks.
The actually canon darth vader comics come close to some of the little stories you may find in EU.
Josh Morris Brexit means Brexit
@@user-pf6yn6bv8s I'm setting myself up for an r/wooosh but when he says EU he is referring to Extended Universe not European Union.
@@sebas8225 The good thing though is you have a lifetime of material to read and play.
The emperor comes back as several clones but is killed repeatedly each time- LOL poor Palpy
Legends Star Wars is best Star Wars.
Nope
Ben Schwartz what do you mean by nope?
Jorge Yanez No its not
Sebastian Sello your thoughts betray you,I feel the good in you.
Dziga why can't we all appreciate both cannon and Legends?Both of them aren't perfect,so why not.
This is waaayyyy cooler than the Canon.
And they call Yoda Old
Legends timeline is much cooler than canon imo
holy shit man I love this so much...
Can I drink you?
^ I see this exact comment thread at least 3 times a week.
Clorox bleach you are everywhere I go
I’m just getting into the EU now. I’m reviewing the books and comics as I go along, I’d appreciate it if anybody took the time to stop by.
Legends is still better then Canon.
A billion times
Than*
Frist Name Last Name the Disney canon is better then the legends
Jarrod Bushyhead: Not everything is flat wrong but what you said is without a doubt wrong, Old school BioWare could shit out a plot better then anything the sequels had.
Sir Dankleberry the sequels are bette them the books
It's sad that people spent thousands of hours on creating a story that stretches over 13 billion just for it to disappear for a new canon, don't get me wrong I love the new canon but there are some stuff in the EU that should stay canon
TAnaker _ Everything should've stayed canon
I agree. I think these hate comments about the new cannon are a little harsh. I still like it, I just prefer Legends a whole hell of a lot more
I like to think that canon and legends are two separate universes co-existing
TAnaker _ ya I think a lot of that old republic stuff should have stayed canon. It was pretty epic and made for a good Jedi backstory
Part of the problem though with legends is people don't realize back then even the EU canon only accepted certain story's as cannon. Others were just well other story's. Many authors took great pains to not write conflicting time lines or make problems where one character ended up at multiple places at the same time in different story's, they did a really good job. They made some mistakes but by in large they made the most cohesive long running story and fictional universe to date. I read a lot of this material as much as I could, and played most all the games, and very rarely did I run into things that couldn't be explained with my knowledge of the lore, and even rarer did I run into problems with people being in the same place at once. So a good example of this was Boba fett, they had a story of what Boba fett did after episode 2 it wasn't very extensive and wasn't terribly interesting, this story was removed from cannon and replaced with an awesome book series, that erased many of the problems of the old one, this book series even informed parts of boba's history that made it into the Clone wars TV series. And the sad part is many of the best parts of this series are practically lost now. The story Is no longer canon and most fans will never know the trans-formative story of boba growing up in a weird place trying to be a good person and slowly has misfortune after misfortune and all he has to rely on is himself, over time he realizes why it's so important to guard one's self, close his emotions, Man up, all though experience. He screw up he find himself in pain, he does everything right he makes money and improves his life. Through this you watch a boy grow to be a man, and eventually one of the most ruthless efficient bounty hunters out there. And you people just talk about the EU being crap. Another good example is Death troopers, looking at the cover I was skeptical, oh great a zombie book "sarcasm" I'm glad this isn't part of the Official cannon, (I told myself years ago when looking at the book, before the Disney purge.) I read the book and it was great, it gave explanations for everything, only used the characters when they weren't doing things in other stories, And had a great bitter sweet ending. The plot was well executed, the setting was fantastic and the ambiance sent shivers down your spine. And it ended not really giving much of a chance to interfere with the other star wars story's. It added to Star Wars and didn't take anything away and that was an example of a great story. But it never was canon, even when it was written. And people don't get that, many things people point too as examples of awful EU canon never where canon even in the old EU. And then there were in my opinion mistakes where things made it as cannon and conflicted with the rest of the star wars stories, like the force unleaded, and made problems with the whole concept and use of the force. And ruined the coherence of it. And that lead to problems in episode seven where they don't understand the lore of the force in the slightest.
I love Legends. Grew up with it. To me, this will always be the "real" Star Wars canon. This is great, thanks for making it!
Why isn't REAL history this interesting?
it is, just depends on which type of storytelling you read
This is the REAL history. Unless you're a fake Star Wars fan.
Who say that it's not?
Man just read more history, some part of real Earth History is really full of complex and awesome stories of battles, heroes, battles, discoveries.
I mean read about ancient chinese history. Or latin american pre-colobian history for example : it's awesome
some of it is man, you'd be surprised if ya do some digging. Chinese history is bloody awesome and honestly I really enjoy the rise of the United States and their break away from England. Also I really love Medieval history. Real history is almost just like fantasy history sometimes hahaha.
I would have loved to see a movie of the Galactic Alliance fight against the Yuuzhan Vong, it would look like a Science Fiction Lord Of The Rings only it's actually Star Wars! Who would've thought that a 40 year old film would spark a generation of many Star Wars sci-fi/fantasy stories.
Dude, imagine if knights of the old republic was made into a trilogy and was directed by George or even Peter Jackson, id pay 10000 to see that
it would have had to been rated R, but i'm good with that.
Hate to be that guy but it was actually the new republic that fought the Yuuzhan vong, after the war the galaxy was so damaged it needed a new government, that was the alliance
when you say darth kryat it sounds like crate... DARTH CRATE: LORD OF THE BOX
Legends is a lot better than the canon.